Thank you for your msg,Paul and welcome!
That poster is truly gorgeous...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280256899469

Official tour poster for Cindytalk's 1996 USA tour. Full color, approx 17" x
22", almost PERFECT condition (except a few very minor creases at far edges).
This poster has been rolled up and stored in a tube since the tour; no marks,
no fading, no discoloring. Photography by Steve Gullick. Handling costs are
for sturdy 2x24 mailing tube to keep in mint condition when shipping.




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they're beautiful!

thanks!

matteo




tkarsavina ha scritto:
>
> Long time Cindytalk fan&friend Stuart has written a piece about
> Cindytalk and their last gig
> accompanied by a live video excerpt.
> Photography is by Cindytalk collaborator Richie Young.
>
>
http://of-ghosts-and-buildings.blogspot.com/2008/07/drifting-imagescindytalk-at-\
12-bar-30.html#links
>
<http://of-ghosts-and-buildings.blogspot.com/2008/07/drifting-imagescindytalk-at\
-12-bar-30.html#links>
>
>

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I guess I should have said Cindytalk's most RECENT gig...
;-)

Long time Cindytalk fan&friend Stuart has written a piece about Cindytalk and
their last gig
accompanied by a live video excerpt.
Photography is by Cindytalk collaborator Richie Young.

http://of-ghosts-and-buildings.blogspot.com/2008/07/drifting-imagescindytalk-at-\
12-bar-30.html#links

"We've had a bit of a longer wait than expected on this one, but it's
because we want it to be PERFECT... and it going to be so gorgeous, I
promise you!
Esp. in light of the passing of Matt Kinnison, this release must SHINE
brightly and resonate with everyone who sees and hears it.
AND IT WILL!
We have the vinyl pressed: CHECK.
Colour front of sleeve: CHECK.
Letterpressed back of sleeve: soon.
Screenprinting of vinyl b-side: in progress.
The backside of the vinyl is a gorgeous half-toned photo of reeds
reflected in water... it's taken many different tests to get the image
half-tone correct. We've finally got a stunning test print, and are ready
to do the final printing of all the vinyl.
SO, thanks for sticking with us, and it will be worth the wait...
shouldn't be long before I have a price worked out, and then we can do
pre-sales to be sure you all get yours before they go bye-bye... I expect
it to sell quite quickly once released. SOON SOON SOON!"

Cindytalk and Laymar ,Tenebrous Liar
Monday 30th June
The 12 Bar
Denmark Street London WC2
"This rare live performance by Cindytalk, will feature two live sets in
one.
An abstract and minimal electronic set will intermingle with a partly
improvised set of new material by a full band line-up, featuring singer
Gordon Sharp alongside long-time Cindytalk drummer Paul Middleton, bass
monster Gary Jeff, laptop obscurist Sherrill Crosby and new guitarist
Daniel Knowler."
(From Tenor Vossa Records website).
Flyer
<http://tinyurl.com/5fz3n4> 



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A loss indeed.For anyone one who knew him,wants to share any memories or
is interested,please go here:Of Ghosts and Buildings
<http://of-ghosts-and-buildings.blogspot.com/>  



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A stunning loss! He will most certainly be remembered and I lift a
glass to him now...

MM

--- In cindytalk@yahoogroups.com, lucinderx <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Long-time Cindytalk friend and collaborator,Matt Kinnison,died on
wednesday 7th of
> May.Matt who had been part of the Cindytalk family since 1982
(having co-written "Under
> Glass" from the Camouflage Heart album) had been ill with cancer for
some time.He died
> peacefully at around 11am after deciding he had endured enough.I saw
him a few hours
> earlier and let him know that his spirit would continue to shine
through all of our future
> work.And whilst it was very difficult to see him so close to
death,he had almost never
> looked more beautiful.It was an absolute privilege to spend that
time with him.He told me
> he was 16 when he came to audition for Cindytalk (when David Clancy
and I lived up in
> East Finchley in 1982) but we subsequently discovered he'd lied and
was only 15.I thought
> he was too young to be considered as our bass-player at that time
but had a strong
> feeling that here was somebody very very special, somebody that
would get better and
> more interesting through time.He proved me right and more.He wasn't
always the easiest
> person to work with,he didn't just have foibles he had FOIBLES...
but he was more than
> worth any effort made and he showed that time and time
again,especially with his bass-
> playing and tape manipulations on "The Wind Is Strong" &
"Wappinschaw".We had been in
> rehearsal to play live when he had to stop due to a shoulder problem
which was later
> diagnosed as lung cancer.We had also been working together on new
material over the
> last two years,notably, "For The Benefit Of All" and "Silver Shoals
Of Light",both of which
> were written by myself and Matt.A new Cindytalk album, again written
between Matt and I
> ("Hold Everything Dear") had just been completed before Matt's
condition
> worsened,rendering him unable to create any new sounds.Cindytalk
label touchedRAW had
> been planning to release Matt's stunning album of yayli tambur
pieces "Evenings Of
> Ordinary Sand" but had been held up due to the petty deception of
our back catalogue
> being stolen.But we will endeavour to bring that plan to fruition as
soon as possible.Matt
> always worked very hard with his music and he did so right up to the
end.He will be sadly
> missed by all those he came in contact with.Rest in Peace Matt,seek
out those
> corners,wherever you are.You will always be with us.We love you.
>
> Gordon Sharp/Cindytalk
>
> Matt,
>
> You asked me for a shaman to help you on your way... this was
written some time
> ago but maybe i can imagine you near and i'm whispering in your ear...
>
> this journey is fevered
> and i'm moving between the lines
> in a corner of the sky
> where it's dark around the edges
> where pity holds sway.
> i'm trying to stay dry
> for now
> hot then cold
> i'm slipping in and out of focus
> at times i hover
> then i'm still
> maybe for days.
> and then like now
> i'm falling
> flying
> swooping...
> like the golden eagle
> i can see all things from this vantage point.
> i hear you sigh
> lost in that distance
> of warm bodies
> of silver shoals
> of light
> of flying too..
> it's never cold up here
> even when it's snows
> even when i'm naked.
> and you on the edge of adventure
> close your eyes
> close your eyes
> close your eyes
> we're falling
> flying
> swooping...
> touching wings
> like the inuits kiss
> up up up
> into the cool blue sky
> caressing..
> i change my name from icarus
> to shaman ghost-echoes
> and take my place at the mouth
> of every river
> dancing with the wind
> with the moon
> with the love of a million stars
> embrace..
> and when you reach that edge
> and a long long long way down
> close your eyes
> close your eyes
> close your eyes
> and feel the ghost echoes...
>

Long-time Cindytalk friend and collaborator,Matt Kinnison,died on wednesday 7th
of
May.Matt who had been part of the Cindytalk family since 1982 (having co-written
"Under
Glass" from the Camouflage Heart album) had been ill with cancer for some
time.He died
peacefully at around 11am after deciding he had endured enough.I saw him a few
hours
earlier and let him know that his spirit would continue to shine through all of
our future
work.And whilst it was very difficult to see him so close to death,he had almost
never
looked more beautiful.It was an absolute privilege to spend that time with
him.He told me
he was 16 when he came to audition for Cindytalk (when David Clancy and I lived
up in
East Finchley in 1982) but we subsequently discovered he'd lied and was only
15.I thought
he was too young to be considered as our bass-player at that time but had a
strong
feeling that here was somebody very very special, somebody that would get better
and
more interesting through time.He proved me right and more.He wasn't always the
easiest
person to work with,he didn't just have foibles he had FOIBLES... but he was
more than
worth any effort made and he showed that time and time again,especially with his
bass-
playing and tape manipulations on "The Wind Is Strong" & "Wappinschaw".We had
been in
rehearsal to play live when he had to stop due to a shoulder problem which was
later
diagnosed as lung cancer.We had also been working together on new material over
the
last two years,notably, "For The Benefit Of All" and "Silver Shoals Of
Light",both of which
were written by myself and Matt.A new Cindytalk album, again written between
Matt and I
("Hold Everything Dear") had just been completed before Matt's condition
worsened,rendering him unable to create any new sounds.Cindytalk label
touchedRAW had
been planning to release Matt's stunning album of yayli tambur pieces "Evenings
Of
Ordinary Sand" but had been held up due to the petty deception of our back
catalogue
being stolen.But we will endeavour to bring that plan to fruition as soon as
possible.Matt
always worked very hard with his music and he did so right up to the end.He will
be sadly
missed by all those he came in contact with.Rest in Peace Matt,seek out those
corners,wherever you are.You will always be with us.We love you.

Gordon Sharp/Cindytalk

Matt,

You asked me for a shaman to help you on your way... this was written some time
ago but maybe i can imagine you near and i'm whispering in your ear...

this journey is fevered
and i'm moving between the lines
in a corner of the sky
where it's dark around the edges
where pity holds sway.
i'm trying to stay dry
for now
hot then cold
i'm slipping in and out of focus
at times i hover
then i'm still
maybe for days.
and then like now
i'm falling
flying
swooping...
like the golden eagle
i can see all things from this vantage point.
i hear you sigh
lost in that distance
of warm bodies
of silver shoals
of light
of flying too..
it's never cold up here
even when it's snows
even when i'm naked.
and you on the edge of adventure
close your eyes
close your eyes
close your eyes
we're falling
flying
swooping...
touching wings
like the inuits kiss
up up up
into the cool blue sky
caressing..
i change my name from icarus
to shaman ghost-echoes
and take my place at the mouth
of every river
dancing with the wind
with the moon
with the love of a million stars
embrace..
and when you reach that edge
and a long long long way down
close your eyes
close your eyes
close your eyes
and feel the ghost echoes...

hi cinder and tkarsavina,

nice to hear that the spam thing is now over.

it's very sad to hear about the sickness of one of the band members. i
really hope that he can heal soon, please send him my personal hug.


about the abraxas thing: i'm interested in this question.

in italy (and in the whole word) distributors usually sucks. they have
too much power in music business.

maybe you remember me: we were in touch time ago about a potential
interview as i wanted to write a special article about cindy talk on a
quite known webzine, called Sound and Silence.

maybe it's time to do it and to spread all over this thing about the
thieves., to make the information go around.

cheers,

matteo



lucinderx ha scritto:
>
> thanks for this.thanks also to the others showing an interest in
> getting rid of the spam
> (bauke & paul).i had lost all my addresses for (cindytalk yahoo group)
> creator david,so wasn't
> able to get in touch with him.granted,i probably didn't try hard
> enough,so huge thanks to
> spaewaif (tkarsavina) for making the effort.there's a lot of activity
> in the cindytalk world at
> the moment... several albums pending and others being recorded.there's
> legal action against
> italian distributors abraxas for effectively stealing our back
> catalogue.absolute bastards!
> please refrain from buying the recent re-issues,if possible,we're
> working on getting them
> re-issued through the Cindytalk label touchedRAW as soon as
> possible.sadly,one of our long
> term band members is gravely ill.our hopes go with him.we are in full
> band rehearsals in
> london at the moment,live (european) actions imminent (fingers
> crossed. )we''ll try to keep
> you all updated.we appreciate your continued interest.
>
> cinder x
>
> david,cheers for getting rid of the spam.appreciated.hope you are well
> & thriving.
>
>

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--- In cindytalk@yahoogroups.com, lucinderx <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> thanks for this.thanks also to the others showing an interest in
getting rid of the spam
> (bauke & paul).i had lost all my addresses for (cindytalk yahoo
group) creator david,so wasn't
> able to get in touch with him.granted,i probably  didn't try hard
enough,so huge thanks to
> spaewaif (tkarsavina) for making the effort.there's a lot of
activity in the cindytalk world at
> the moment... several albums pending and others being
recorded.there's legal action against
> italian distributors abraxas for effectively stealing our back
catalogue.absolute bastards!
> please refrain from buying the recent re-issues,if possible,we're
working on getting them
> re-issued through the Cindytalk label touchedRAW as soon as
possible.sadly,one of our long
> term band members is gravely ill.our hopes go with him.we are in
full band rehearsals in
> london at the moment,live (european) actions imminent (fingers
crossed. )we''ll try to keep
> you all updated.we appreciate your continued interest.
>
> cinder x
>
> david,cheers for getting rid of the spam.appreciated.hope you are
well & thriving.
>

Cinder,
looking forward to hearing all the new releases! the new demos sound
fantastic. sorry to hear about the unofficial re-issues and the
illness of your friend. my thoughts are wishing the best for all of you.

also, if you need to contact me (though I shouldn't disappear again as
before) i am a friend of Cindytalk on myspace, assuming you are the
one who is registered so to speak as um yourself on that site.

Take care,
David

thanks for this.thanks also to the others showing an interest in getting rid of
the spam
(bauke & paul).i had lost all my addresses for (cindytalk yahoo group) creator
david,so wasn't
able to get in touch with him.granted,i probably  didn't try hard enough,so huge
thanks to
spaewaif (tkarsavina) for making the effort.there's a lot of activity in the
cindytalk world at
the moment... several albums pending and others being recorded.there's legal
action against
italian distributors abraxas for effectively stealing our back
catalogue.absolute bastards!
please refrain from buying the recent re-issues,if possible,we're working on
getting them
re-issued through the Cindytalk label touchedRAW as soon as possible.sadly,one
of our long
term band members is gravely ill.our hopes go with him.we are in full band
rehearsals in
london at the moment,live (european) actions imminent (fingers crossed. )we''ll
try to keep
you all updated.we appreciate your continued interest.

cinder x

david,cheers for getting rid of the spam.appreciated.hope you are well &
thriving.

Interestingly,I've just had to approve my own msg!!!!!
So it works!
Hmmm...
;-)

After some research,I could succesfully trace the owner of this group.He has
kindly added me
as a moderator .All the recent spam has been removed and suspicious "members"
deleted.
The group preferences have been changed so now all msgs will have to meet
approval before
being publicly posted and sent to the group.I am hoping this will put an end to
this
nuisance.The group's owner apologises to everyone.He rarely signs onto Yahoo
these days
and was therefore not aware of the escalating spamming.
Thank you for your patience and support of Cindytalk.
I think this will be quite a productive and exciting year regarding new music
from the band ...

This is a problem I tried to address a while ago when the first spam msgs
started
appearing.This group was created by a Cindytalk fan and cinder/Cindytalk have no
moderating capabilities here.
I contacted the list owner/moderator through various ways,many times,so that he
would
add me as moderator or pass this Yahoo group list ownership onto Cindytalk
themselves
but all my messages so far have met no with no reply.
It is quite likely that he doesn't check in here often - or at all- and is
therefore not aware
of the situation.He might as well have forgotten passwords,etc.
In any case,I do agree that it is a hassle and has unfortunately gone out of
hand recently.
I am going to try again and I am sure cinder will do the same.
As you both have pointed out,it is extremely easy to get rid of this kind of
spam.
In the meantime,I suggest you change your membership preferences for this group 
and
request not to have individual e-mails sent to you.
You can also cancel your membership and join some other time in the near future
when
this problem has,hopefully,been addressed.
Most of the information regarding Cindytalk can now be found in various
websites.
I suggest you visit the archivist's blog,"Of Ghosts and Buildings",where a list
of links is
available.
I am hoping we will find a way to solve the spamming situation soon.It would be
a pity to
close this group and lose a very important number of very special fans who have
been
supporting the band for so long,not to mention a wealth of information regarding
the
band.






--- In cindytalk@yahoogroups.com, Bauke van der Wal <bauke.vanderwal@...> wrote:
>
> I run an 800+ group myself and it's indeed a small extra to prevent
> this spam from going through. i don't know who is the list owner
> (cinder?) but i am willing to do the cleaning up. it will be an hours
> work tops and the only change that will be enough is to approve new
> members (and IF one slips through, delete him)
>
> cinder, feel free to contact me and add me as moderator. it will
> truly be no problem at all!
>
> cheers,
> bauke
>
> --
> the law-rah] collective
> http://www.darkambient.net/
>
> > I love Cindytalk, but lately I'm wearied past endurance by getting
> > nothing but idiot spam from this group. I'll give it a few more days
> > to see if anything changes before declining any further emails. I run
> > a group with two hundred or so members, and it's not been hard to
> > spare them any of this stuff: if anyone with moderator powers is
> > listening, please just eject the existing culprits and opt to take a
> > look at new members' postings before they appear. As soon as anyone in
> > my groups makes a single relevant posting, I remove moderation from
> > them for good. It doesn't take much time, and works perfectly.
> >
>
> --
> ps: i'm fasing out the darkambient account because of too much spam.
> please use this addres from now on: bauke.vanderwal@...
>

I run an 800+ group myself and it's indeed a small extra to prevent
this spam from going through. i don't know who is the list owner
(cinder?) but i am willing to do the cleaning up. it will be an hours
work tops and the only change that will be enough is to approve new
members (and IF one slips through, delete him)

cinder, feel free to contact me and add me as moderator. it will
truly be no problem at all!

cheers,
bauke

--
the law-rah] collective
http://www.darkambient.net/

> I love Cindytalk, but lately I'm wearied past endurance by getting
> nothing but idiot spam from this group. I'll give it a few more days
> to see if anything changes before declining any further emails. I run
> a group with two hundred or so members, and it's not been hard to
> spare them any of this stuff: if anyone with moderator powers is
> listening, please just eject the existing culprits and opt to take a
> look at new members' postings before they appear. As soon as anyone in
> my groups makes a single relevant posting, I remove moderation from
> them for good. It doesn't take much time, and works perfectly.
>

--
ps: i'm fasing out the darkambient account because of too much spam.
please use this addres from now on: bauke.vanderwal@...

I love Cindytalk, but lately I'm wearied past endurance by getting
nothing but idiot spam from this group. I'll give it a few more days
to see if anything changes before declining any further emails. I run
a group with two hundred or so members, and it's not been hard to
spare them any of this stuff: if anyone with moderator powers is
listening, please just eject the existing culprits and opt to take a
look at new members' postings before they appear. As soon as anyone in
my groups makes a single relevant posting, I remove moderation from
them for good. It doesn't take much time, and works perfectly.

Regards,
Paul

Follow the link to a short trailer for WE DISAPPEAR,the third novel by Scott
Heim. It is
published in paperback by HarperPerennial, and will arrive in bookstores on
February 26th.
This trailer for the book provides the atmosphere for this psychological
thriller about
obsession, addiction, and loss, a book that should please fans of Heim's earlier
MYSTERIOUS
SKIN (which was adapted for a 2005 film by director Gregg Araki). Accompanying
music by
Cindytalk.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u8Xl3TKx7mw

*French webzine/magazine Trinity has just released a 10th anniversary
compilation CD titled
"Ruines and Vanites" to which Cindytalk contribute two tracks:"Canto" and
"Surrounded by
Sky/The Stillness of Time".The CD comes in an edition limited to 500 copies of
which the first
hundred are especially numbered and contain inserts.
The first part of an interview with Cinder can also be read here:
http://of-ghosts-and-buildings.blogspot.com/2008/01/entretien-avec-cindytalk.htm\
l

*David Clancy,co-founder of The Freeze and Cindytalk,recently started a project
on youtube
to highlight the band's early work.The clips contain many rarities and David's
comments are
always a joy to read.An excellent idea!
http://uk.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=TheScottishFreeze

*Scarborian,long-time Freeze/Cindytalk fan,has created a Cindytalk quiz:
http://www.orkneypcquiz.co.uk/cindytalk%20-%20output/quizmaker.html

Greetings from Bloomington, Indiana!

This is an update on the progress for the CINDYTALK 10".

The vinyl has been mastered direct to lacquer at Golden Mastering (who
were wonderful to work with), and it currently at the record plant.  Test
pressings and labels are being made right now.

I hope to have the vinyl soon after New Years, keeping us on schedule for
a hopeful FEB 08 release.

Once the vinyl is in hand, I will begin the process of arranging to have
them screenprinted locally by a friend of mine.  As well as the process of
having the covers printed by a friend in Chicago.

Once I have quotes on both those portions, I will be able to figure out
the cost for the entire project, and come up with a price to sell them at.
  At that point, I will email you all again with info on how to pre-order
the single.

It's going to be GORGEOUS!  Wait until you see this thing... wow!

I would like ot thank Gordon and the band for letting me release this
single.  I hope to work with them again and again, and have dreamed of
such since I first heard 'In This World' in 1987.

Silver Shoals of Light.
Mkl.

Last Friday Cindytalk played a laptop/voice set in London.
Some photos here:
http://of-ghosts-and-buildings.blogspot.com/

On Dec 23,Cindytalk will be doing a laptop set in Shanghai's Yu Yin Tang.
Also playing are Japanese/Korean "10" and Chinese "Torturing Nurse".

What happened here with all that spam?
:-(

From Susan Matthews website:
Also underway is 'Motion.Silence.Echo' featuring a number of artists
(Tony Wakeford, Rainier Lericolais, Fabrizio Mondonese Palumbo, Shaun Blezard,
Alistair Crosbie, Nick Grey, Cindytalk) who've been invited to remix tracks from
Susan's CD releases.

From Susan Matthews website:
Also underway is 'Motion.Silence.Echo' featuring a number of artists
(Tony Wakeford, Rainier Lericolais, Fabrizio Mondonese Palumbo, Shaun Blezard,
Alistair
Crosbie, Nick Grey, Cindytalk) who've been invited to remix tracks from Susan's
CD releases.

A beautiful track from the "Orkney Sessions" with Toby Reynolds/DJ Scud and
Gordon
Sharp,"Fingers and Toes",is available for listening in CINdYTALK's myspace music
player:
http://www.myspace.com/cindytalk

thanks a lot tkarsavina, also for the news about the new record!

Matteo




tkarsavina ha scritto:
>
> There is now a photo in the "Home" page!
> Thank you,moderator!
> ;-)
>
>


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There is now a photo in the "Home" page!
Thank you,moderator!
;-)

Bluesanct has now a pre-order page for this release:
http://www.bluesanct.com/inri084preorder.html
Exciting news indeed!

News from Bluesanct:
"CINDYTALK - Silver Shoals of Light art 10" (INRI084).
  The third in our series of art vinyl, ltd to 500 copies w/ screenprinted vinyl
and letter-
pressed sleeve. Cindytalk are one of the utmost important artists in the
experimental
community, and since the early 80's have produced some of my favourite albums of
all time.
I am VERY excited to be issuing this brand new Cindytalk track..."
The website also indicates the following: CINDYTALK - Silver Shoals of Light 10"
(INRI084) A
gorgeous 10" single, w/ screenprinted vinyl and letter-pressed sleeve.
A TEN " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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