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RE: [cnfractal_music] Converting the Mandelbrot set into sound

Keykit deals only with midi, not audio samples.



A little google searching should easily find image-to-sound converters of
various types, here’s the first one I found:
http://www.webcenter.ru/~vsoft/BitmapPlayer.htm



…Tim…



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Subject: Re: [cnfractal_music] Converting the Mandelbrot set into sound



I think KeyKit may do something like this, and there are I think a
number of others that do some kind of image to sound transformation.
Can't say they use the same method to derive results though...

Phil J.


On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 18:49 -0500, Dave Strohbeen wrote:
> I seem to remember seeing something along these lines (pixel data
> value to audio-sample value mapping) done with CSound many years
> ago... you might find something useful by googleing 'csound'
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:35 AM
> Subject: [cnfractal_music] Converting the Mandelbrot set into sound
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> There have been various attempts to convert the Mandelbrot set into
> sound, more or less unsuccessful. However there is one way which i
> have recently thought of, and i don't know if it has been tried.
> Basically, it requires the image to be calculated to a very high
> resolution-about 40 000 pixels wide for each second of sound. Each
> sample would represent one "line" of pixels, either horizontal or
> vertical, the number of "black"versus "white" pixels becoming the
> value for the sample. It seems this might produce listenable sounds,
> possibly even harmonically complex, but i'm not sure. Does anyone know
> if this has been tried, or have the programming skills and tools to
> try to implement this?
>
> /Ö
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There have been various attempts to convert the Mandelbrot set into sound, more or less unsuccessful. However there is one way which i have recently thought...
Mats Öljare
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  As a fractal object, it's scale-free, if I'm not mistaken. For that reason, I think it's not very easy to know exactly what we are really mapping if we ...
Lucas Sgrecia
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My Meager understanding of the process would be more like the process used to produce a fractal image, that is iterating particular formulas on points where...
PhilJackson
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I seem to remember seeing something along these lines (pixel data value to audio-sample value mapping) done with CSound many years ago... you might find...
Dave Strohbeen
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Hey All,          There at least two programs written for the Atari ST and it generated some cool midi note on/midi note off     kind of music...
Michael Mantra
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I've no doubt that Tim C. will have something to say about this..... But... to answer your question, go here: http://tamw.atari-users.net/ There are more than...
PhilJackson
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I think KeyKit may do something like this, and there are I think a number of others that do some kind of image to sound transformation. Can't say they use the...
PhilJackson
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Keykit deals only with midi, not audio samples. A little google searching should easily find image-to-sound converters of various types, here’s the first one...
Tim Thompson
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Jul 23, 2008
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True, but as I recall, KeyKit does have the ability to scan charactoristics of images in a particular format and produce interesting "sound" in MIDI format,...
PhilJackson
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Jul 23, 2008
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CNFractal here has a member, Lauri Grohn, who does a lot of music work with images, but he was disenchanted about the musical possibilities of fractal images....
Bill Herbert
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As i should have stated clearly enough from the start, what i'm suggesting is generating sound waves out of the shape, not mapping it to pitches. The idea is...
Mats Öljare
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Here is some software that can convert bitmap data into wav file sounds: http://www.sonicspot.com/coagula/coagula.html Phil J....
PhilJackson
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and I guess also artsong can generate some stuff with lots of parameters to play with go here--> hhttp://www.artsong.org/ best jacky ... De: PhilJackson...
jacky schreiber
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and what about mapping the mandel set directly into a score?, jacky Mensaje Original -------------- De: PhilJackson [pjackson1@...] Para:...
jacky schreiber
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Jul 23, 2008
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Never heard/seen any succesfull Mandelbrot set music without a lot of work after the "generation". Perhaps some day ... Lauri Gröhn metacomposer ...
Lauri Grohn
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Jul 24, 2008
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There is a pretty nice and easy to use program in the file downloads section here that I've been playing around with. It's called GMF. Right off the bat it's...
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Does anyone know ... There is a wonderful program here: http://tamw.atari-users.net/fmc.htm which runs on PC with this http://tamw.atari-users.net/steem.htm ...
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Jul 25, 2008
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... Those kinds of solutions are more a kind of new instruments than composing systems. Synestesia sw, e.g., generates a whole piece (midi file) in 5 seconds....
Lauri Grohn
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I'm currently working on a program to do this myself. However, the only language i know and have is QBasic, which is terribly and unnecessarily slow for this...
Mats Öljare
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Microsoft Visual Basic 2008 express is free: http://www.microsoft.com/express/vb/ I haven't used it but I should expect it to work (I'm a Visual C# programmer...
Jason Champion
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Well, i've managed to make a more efficient version ,but the result is rather disapponting. I guess it's basically just noise, though it has some interesting...
Mats Öljare
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