Hello everyone,
 
  Haven't added a word in the past, so it is about time I put my feminine two
cents worth. It doesn't matter a bit about how anyone looks at fractal music,
because in all reality it is different for everyone. No two people hear it
exactly the same. We all vibrate at different frequencies and not all of us get
the same thing out of music, or life. One person may feel the calming effect and
another an irritating effect. It is what they hear from it, how it resonates
with their own frequencies and vibration. I have  studied with Barbara Hero,
whom I call the Einstein of Music, Sound and Frequencies. She has the Lamboma
Keyboard and so much research, I have not been able to keep up with her genius.
Robert Walker has worked with her over the years and been instrumental in some
of her software used on the Lambdoma. Her website is www.lambdoma.com . I also
have a Lambdoma, have used it in treatment for myself and others, I will over
the next few years
develop a method that people will be able to use the keyboard and create
Printable Fractal Art from their own Fractal Musical Frequencies. It will be
like taking an imprint of your iris and blowing it up, our eyes are the window
to our organs and our health, as fractal music created by ones self is a healing
modality and a window to our well being. We are able to look inside and create a
vibrational harmony to heal thyself. As I look at things a little differently
than others, I've been told, I vision our universe as a mathematical
calculation, everything in essence is and has a number related to it. Just think
about it. So if we take those numbers and turn them into a calculation on the
keyboard, or musical tones, cords, in certain frequencies, they turn into music
(sound) and then if you speed them up they turn into light and light turns
into infinity (infrared).I feel I have expressed my point of view, there is no
right or wrong, we all have our
opinions and as long as we respect one another and realize that we are all
right in our own beliefs, we will then be the teacher and the student. For isn't
that what life is about.


Cheri DeShaw
Camp Comfort
1370 John St
Camano ISland, WA 98282
360 572-4220
760 567-6684 Cell

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, PhilJackson <pjackson1@...> wrote:

From: PhilJackson <pjackson1@...>
Subject: Re: [cnfractal_music] Re: Fractal music debates...
To: cnfractal_music@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:19 PM






Hi all,

I agree with some of this.

> <Harlan>
> I agree with Phil (J) that concerns about "classification" are
> entirely unnecessary to the creative process. It's all about the
> ears - if it sounds good, do it.

<me>
I think that is aim of most people in this group, to produce something
that sounds good, or least interesting. Not as a mathematical proof.

<Harlan>
>
> The interesting part for me (aside from the listening), is figuring
> out what aspects of music are actually "fractal" in the same sense
> that we measure visual fractals. We take it for granted that we
> often "see" the way in which an image or object is self-similar.
> However, whether we see the fractal structure or not, it is
> mathematically demonstrable.

<me>
I think it would be a much easier chore with a graphic fractal. With
music, the waters are further muddied by the fact that in practice, a
lot of people do a good bit of editing and combining the output of
several things together these days. (Much to Shawn's chagrin ;-)

<Harlan>

>
> Assuming that music derived from a fractal is automatically fractal
> is something like taking a poem by Kipling, transliterating it using
> the Cyrillic alphabet and then presenting it as Russian poetry. The
> point here is simply that the desired outcome is by no means
> guaranteed.
>
> As I wrote earlier, it is possible to insure fractality by being
> careful with mapping. It is also possible that fractal structure
> exists without intent, but to be certain of this it is necessary to
> make some sort of measurement relative to pitch, interval, duration,
> dynamics, etc.
>

<me>
I would think the mapping important, or rather how you arrive at the
mapping. Graphically, you might iterate over sets of points in the
real/complex planes and paint a pixel a certain color depending upon how
many iterations of a complex equation occur before either an "escape
value" is reached or N iterations occur and you determine it will never
reach "escape velocity". Music-generating software would mostly follow
that same model I would think, though there are others. I think that
there was software at one time that produced notes at each iteration, so
not sure about that...

<Harlan>
> Often researchers try to link some concept of fractal dimension to
> genre or "likeability, " though this is not my focus. Some use MIDI
> renditions while others use audio files. The common thread is that
> all such efforts require identifying specific attributes for
> measurement.

<Me>
Interesting. If they are looking for "likeability" does that mean that
they are analyzing the "fluff" on top-40 radio stations? Surely not.

<Harlan>
>
> AND... none of this matters if one simply wishes to make music!
>

<me>
Quite true! I am sure that your research is quite challenging, but what
if you used your acquired knowledge thus far on this subject to actually
write a fractal music composition tool that was 100% aligned to your
ideal of what fractal music should be like?

Phil J.

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