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Re: Fractal Tunes

Here are some examples of the fractal tune sloth canons:

http://www.robertinventor.com/software/fractal_music_Sloth_canons/index.htm

With the first three examples, if you speed the tune up a bit, and remove the
quietest part, then it sounds the same (except that the volume of the first note
depends on the total number of parts in the tune). The tunes also almost repeat.
I made the first three to be as fractal as possible with this method.

Anyway if you follow the link there's more there about what makes the tune
fractal.

Sorry for delay, I've been working on the program and improving the website, had
a lot on. Also thanks for the information about fractint's capabilities for
generating penrose tilings using L-systems - I'd come across fractint before but
had no idea that it could do penrose tilings.

Thanks,

Robert

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Hi All, This is from Harlan Brothers, that I got directly as the group owner. He just joined, by the way. ... Hi, Phil. Robert Walker just pointed me to this...
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... sites on the subject of fractal music other than his own as "the worst kind of nonsense." ... Whether or not they are your words, you chose to present them...
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Perhaps we need to call a truce here and let Harlan speak a bit, and perhaps all mend some fences.... Phil J....
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I've nothing further to say on this subject Phil, other than to add this final point... Robert Walker and I have both alluded to something previously that I ...
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Hi, Not being a native English speaker it still seems to me that "Fractal music" and "Music based on fractals" are two different matters. Best, Lauri Gröhn ...
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Hi Lauri, Yes, I think everyone would agree if you take extreme examples, some music is obviously fractal however you draw the line, well certainly my cantors...
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OK. My guess is that our collective time is better spent making music regardless of how we individually choose to classify it. I will try to clarify some...
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"I hope this helps to clarify things". Which precisely illustrates my point, Harlan. All over your web-site you assume that such clarification is necessary...
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Phil T, Take a deep breath and do not do this. An argument over terms is just a silly thing.... Phil J....
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Dear Phil, The term fractal music means what anyone wants it to mean, not what an academic wants to make it. Nobody has a monopoly on it, nor should they,...
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I think, or hope we all can agree to disagree at times on the particulars of some term or another. If we all agreed 100% of the time and thought identically,...
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Hi, Phil (T). I nothing about you other than the fact that you are talented and passionate about your music. You should probably listen to your friends, take...
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... I did my first experiments 1988 and some results of those are available on my pages. The techniques is not the point but the music generated without too...
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Hi all, I have a question for Lauri, Phil T, Phil J, Rober W, Dr. Brothers or anyone who wants to answer, can any of you identify a fractal music by listening...
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... I have never heard any real fractal music. Does it even exist? Of course my SW can generate music from any fractal picture, but it is not fractal music. ...
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To what degree would anybody consider Mozart's 41st symphony fractal? It's constructed from very few microscopically small musical units. Could one say that...
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Hi Will, That's an interesting thought. It might be a bit like those L-system trees with flowers and leaves, like the ones you can make with my Virtual Flower...
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Hi There, This one is fractal by almost any definition - well the rhythm certainly. The pitch also - that's assume you treat the pitch axis much as another...
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Sorry, correction to that last e-mail - though probably it is obvious anyway just in case it gets you confused: The similarity is that if you play the tune...
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BTW just want to make very clear. I don't in any way think that the Tune Smithy fractal tunes are the only musical analogues of a visual fractal. Clearly there...
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Hi, Jacky.   First, a quick correction - I am not a Ph.D.  Perhaps the previous derisive talk of me as an "academic" type gave you the wrong...
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Yes don't do this, truth prevails. Honestly I think a lot of it is that he is new to the field and just wasn't aware of the work done. When I first wrote FTS...
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Hi Phil ... mid 1980s, used a mensuration canon. It's a piece I have always loved and made several versions of over the years, but never released on a fractal...
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Just another thought, maybe it will help. I anyway don't think of fractal as a value judgement, any kind of a way of deciding whether the music is better or...
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Nice thoughts, Robert. I don't think we need to develop a scale of "fracticality" as if we were measuring a hurricane or earthquake. It is what it is. Just...
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Hi Phil, I'd say that I have two "hats" as it were. With my mathematical hat on then I'm very interested in the fractal structure behind the music, make tunes...
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Here are some examples of the fractal tune sloth canons: http://www.robertinventor.com/software/fractal_music_Sloth_canons/index.htm With the first three...
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