I paid 700.00 for the Puchner contra bocal but it is well worth it


In a message dated 11/18/2009 7:55:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
justin.torrellas@... writes:

pre-war Heckel bocal I was in love with until I got my Bell
bassoon. It just didn't work for me there, and my modern Heckels were
just okay. The included Bell bocals work very well, but I think the
best so far has been a Puchner BD2 I had lying around, which didn't
work exceptionally on any other horn I've played, including my  Puchner.

I think the Puchner instruments are often underrated in  general, and
the same goes for the crooks. I've often seen them sold for  $200 or
less, which for a good one is a steal compared to a decent Heckel  crook.

Too lazy to type umlauts  today.
-Justin



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have time to keep up with them.  Facebook is a great way for people who
share common interests to meet and communicate.  Its virtues far outweigh
its flaws.

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former contrabassoonist, Arlington (Virginia)Civic Symphony
p.s.  This group is wonderful, too, as is its moderator.)

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Being a strong advocate of Puchner's I will agree. For a year or so I've been a
happy owner of a model 23 I think. It has a nice big sound and very much reminds
me of a Heckel. big fan of em :P
I've been monstrously curious about the Bell Bassoons. Definitely going for one
of those when I'm done with the Puchner which won't be for a long time I'm sure.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Justin Torrellas <justin.torrellas@...> wrote:

From: Justin Torrellas <justin.torrellas@...>
Subject: [Kfg] Re: Puchner Contra
To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:54 PM







 









       It's funny how a little piece of metal can have such an effect.  I had

a pre-war Heckel bocal I was in love with until I got my Bell

bassoon.  It just didn't work for me there, and my modern Heckels were

just okay.  The included Bell bocals work very well, but I think the

best so far has been a Puchner BD2 I had lying around, which didn't

work exceptionally on any other horn I've played, including my Puchner.



I think the Puchner instruments are often underrated in general, and

the same goes for the crooks.  I've often seen them sold for $200 or

less, which for a good one is a steal compared to a decent Heckel crook.



Too lazy to type umlauts today.

-Justin























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It's funny how a little piece of metal can have such an effect.  I had
a pre-war Heckel bocal I was in love with until I got my Bell
bassoon.  It just didn't work for me there, and my modern Heckels were
just okay.  The included Bell bocals work very well, but I think the
best so far has been a Puchner BD2 I had lying around, which didn't
work exceptionally on any other horn I've played, including my Puchner.

I think the Puchner instruments are often underrated in general, and
the same goes for the crooks.  I've often seen them sold for $200 or
less, which for a good one is a steal compared to a decent Heckel crook.

Too lazy to type umlauts today.
-Justin

I apologize!!!

I tried to use the facebook 'find friends' feature.  I loaded my
addresses from my mail program and checked off a few as a test.  I hit
submit a couple of times and it said I had requested over 300 friends
instead of the expected 6.  I have decided that I don't want to deal
with that.  I have canceled  my facebook account.  I will probably never
use Facebook again.

Sorry!!!

-- Boyd Osgood --

Thanks,
I have a very nice Fox but tried a Puchner bocal on it and it plays
beautifully. That got me wondering how their contras play.
JTC


In a message dated 11/15/2009 5:19:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
skrysmalski@... writes:

put my  hands on and, gratefully, it was a good instrument. It had good
intonation,  nice sweet sound and it was easy to play.
Unfortunately, some one told me  it was stolen from university last year(?)
An other good instrument I had  tried belonged to a student-colleague at
San Francisco Conservatory of Music.  It was probably made around the same
time as the UofT's instrument.
Also,  about Five years ago, I tried a new instrument at the Frankfurt's
Musik Masse  (it was one of the antique finish models); some how that
particular instrument  did not strike me as a good one: it had some projection
problems in the high  register and some notes had a questionable intonation. I
also noticed that  mechanically it was time for the Factory to redesign it.
If you're thinking  about buying a new one, it might be wiser to get a new
Fox: they're great  instruments and you're getting much more for the money
today; with the Dollar  standing at it's lowest ever against Euro, you might
be shocked how much it  might cost you to (Heckel, besides the money, is
also about Seven years of  waiting, at the moment(!)).

Slawomir Krysmalski - bsn/cbsn, Barcelona  Symphony.




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I have a 1985 Puchner Contra. LOVE IT!!!!
(Conductors have told me "Less Contra" because the sound is so big.)

Margaret Hook
Dover, NH

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Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:34 PM
To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Kfg] Puchner Contra



Has anyone played a Puchner Contrabassoon? if so how did you like it?

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University of Toronto had a very nice Puchner contrabassoon; it was the 1st
contrabassoon I ever put my hands on and, gratefully, it was a good instrument.
It had good intonation, nice sweet sound and it was easy to play.
Unfortunately, some one told me it was stolen from university last year(?)
An other good instrument I had tried belonged to a student-colleague at San
Francisco Conservatory of Music. It was probably made around the same time as
the UofT's instrument.
Also, about Five years ago, I tried a new instrument at the Frankfurt's Musik
Masse (it was one of the antique finish models); some how that particular
instrument did not strike me as a good one: it had some projection problems in
the high register and some notes had a questionable intonation. I also noticed
that mechanically it was time for the Factory to redesign it.
If you're thinking about buying a new one, it might be wiser to get a new Fox:
they're great instruments and you're getting much more for the money today; with
the Dollar standing at it's lowest ever against Euro, you might be shocked how
much it might cost you to (Heckel, besides the money, is also about Seven years
of waiting, at the moment(!)).

Slawomir Krysmalski - bsn/cbsn, Barcelona Symphony.

Yes, Ithaca has had a Puchner for 40 years.  They also now have a Fox
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-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Bailey <charliebsn@...>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30:49
To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com<contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Kfg] Re: Puchner Contra

I'm pretty sure that Ithaca college uses one. You could write to Leah Goodhue
and inquire.

I'm pretty sure that Ithaca college uses one. You could write to Leah Goodhue
and inquire.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 15, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Roger SOREN <chinsoft@...> wrote:


I agree with Justin, that IU contra is very nice.  It has a ball bearing key
system that I"ve only seen on Moosman bassoons before.

Roger Soren



To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com
From: justin.torrellas@...
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:56:17 -0800
Subject: [Kfg] Re: Puchner Contra





Indiana University has a newer contra (2002 or so) which I played on
many, many concerts while a student there. It played very well, and
had a great big, yet controllable sound. I used it in many
situations, from Mahler to crazy new music works with super high
passages. Loved it. I wish I had one myself now!

Also, it had the antique finish, which not only looks great, but seems
to help the sound as well.

Cheers,
Justin




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I agree with Justin, that IU contra is very nice.  It has a ball bearing key
system that I"ve only seen on Moosman bassoons before.

Roger Soren



To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com
From: justin.torrellas@...
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:56:17 -0800
Subject: [Kfg] Re: Puchner Contra





Indiana University has a newer contra (2002 or so) which I played on
many, many concerts while a student there. It played very well, and
had a great big, yet controllable sound. I used it in many
situations, from Mahler to crazy new music works with super high
passages. Loved it. I wish I had one myself now!

Also, it had the antique finish, which not only looks great, but seems
to help the sound as well.

Cheers,
Justin




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Indiana University has a newer contra (2002 or so) which I played on
many, many concerts while a student there.  It played very well, and
had a great big, yet controllable sound.  I used it in many
situations, from Mahler to crazy new music works with super high
passages.  Loved it.  I wish I had one myself now!

Also, it had the antique finish, which not only looks great, but seems
to help the sound as well.

Cheers,
Justin

I played a Püchner contra at the Frankfurt Musikmesse last April. It was being
sent to China after the Exhibit. Fabulous instrument.
- Lewis Kirk



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From: "atljonchance2@..." <atljonchance2@...>
To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 2:34:20 PM
Subject: [Kfg] Puchner Contra


Has anyone played a Puchner Contrabassoon? if so how did you like  it?

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John,

Clarinet stuff is over on Mark Charette's www.woodwind.org
site. (Wait! That's LinkedIn, not Facebook...<grin>)

When you wrote that, my 8 year-old had "Doctor Who" on
Dvd with the very large-type clarinet solos.  Done very
tastefully, always leaving us wanting more...

Good Luck in your search.

Guy Mallery

I played Puchner contras at the Norwegian State Academy and Oslo Philharmonic.
Both great instruments
with good intonation and beautiful sound. Missed them a lot until I got the Fast
Fox!!

Brjánn Ingason, Iceland Symphony Orchestra


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: atljonchance2@...
   To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:34 PM
   Subject: [Kfg] Puchner Contra



   Has anyone played a Puchner Contrabassoon? if so how did you like it?

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Has anyone played a Puchner Contrabassoon? if so how did you like  it?


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Ridenour makes some very nice plastic clarinets. They have just completed a
  new Contrabass Bb clarinet. Has anyone played or seen it. I was once  a
member of a Klarinet group and I can no longer find them. Does anyone  know if
they are still active? Also,
  what is the opinion of the Leblanc Contrabass clarinet in Bb. Is
Eppielshiem's in production yet?

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BS. Biology, MS, Genetics, Ph.D Microbiology/Biochemistry
Centers  for Disease Control
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The List Marm gives this one little "Cool!" overall, and one little
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There are actually easier way to hyperlink to your site.
You'd also be expected to follow through.

Be careful what you wish for!

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Sorry list, meant to send this to John only

Lori

To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com
From: l_gar@...
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:54:57 -0800
Subject: RE: [Kfg] Contra bocals for sale






























Hi John,

I'm interested in the contra-reed-making equip. What items are you willing to
part with?

Lori Garvey



To: contrabassoon@yahoogroups.com

From: ChanceMailBox@...

Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:32:02 -0500

Subject: [Kfg] Contra bocals for sale



I have a pre war contra bocal for sale plus a few gold plated  Heckel ones.



I also have some shapers and contra reed making equipment for sale  also.



E-mail me privately for more info. At the end of this month I will be  moving



to South Ga to help my family care for my mother who is not doing well.  It



may be sometime before I get Internet connection. You can call me at



478-301-0551



John  Chance



BS. Biology, MS, Genetics, Ph.D Microbiology/Biochemistry



Centers  for Disease Control



Research Microbiologist ( retired 2002)



Part time  Professor of Infectious Diseases GPC



Atlanta, Ga 30345



ph  478-301-0551



Dog coat color genetics_  http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/dogcolors.html_



(http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/dogcolors.html)



Color calculator,  horse and dogs_



http://www.animalgenetics.us/CCalculator1.asp_
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Transgeneic  fish_  http://www.glofish.com/_ (http://www.glofish.com/)



Transgenic dogs? Genetics has gone too far.  This serves no purpose in the



field of Genetics._



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ansgenic-dog.html_



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