Well You were complaining the list was dead... and looked like you were wanting
to talk..
Boaz is a male singer who sung at the Eurovision Song Contest this year... sadly
Dana did not sing it ... but Boaz did a well enouph job (prefere female
singers)...
anyway He sung the song Dana wrote for the song contest...
But i dont know what a Boaz is, it is the name of this person...but i dont know
what it is..
Love and hugs
Danielle

> You talk more than I do.  haha.  Well what is Boaz?
>
> --- In dana-international@yahoogroups.com, Zana
> International
> <zanainternational@...> wrote:
>/info/terms/

You talk more than I do.  haha.  Well what is Boaz?

--- In dana-international@yahoogroups.com, Zana International
<zanainternational@...> wrote:
>
> Shalom there
>
> Well people dont say much these days :-/ including me... its
possibly because my hope is run out... dont know what to do with my
life etc etc and so on so forth...out of energy.. and holding to what
little hope i have..
>
> She seems to be happy, i dont know, have not asked her, because i
canot see her.. so i dont know :-( but others will know, but do
knowand have recieved a photo from a freind, Dana seemedto be full of
smiles, having fun and stuff, so i guess she is ok, and also her song
came 9th in Eurovision sung by Boaz... anything more, i dont know...
i am just much in the dark.. but i let you know that people dont use
yahoogroups much anymore, and rather lurk forums, strange enouph.. I
am lurking on http://danaintern.14.forumer.com. There is also an
official forum... but everyone speaks hebrew , so i dont go much
there only to like to wish her for her birthday, send her regards
about events that I know, and thats about it...
> I hope you get well soon over that flue, I had a crappy virus few
days ago...yup, stress can be caused by alot of reasons..Mine is alot
of things... and i have not got a job yet, maybe because not having a
job is tressing me out.. :-/ since i ony moved an inch forward in
transitioning, where people i met years ago, are happy and prouncing
around like fairies now..
> Hmm lol she is beautifull :-) and i wish i was her girlfreind
hehehehe ... wish for thinking, tachlom tachlom... lol
> She does get me through the day most of the times, as well as doing
art, i do my art, and pay her through the earphones or speakers...
depending the "atmosphere" in the house...
>
> Well I wish there were no males on the planet from the start..., ou
know "boys with toys"... but thats my own feelings... and dont feel
upset about them, was not attacking you with them, i am just merely
saying it, and F2M people just leave me with my draw dropped. As i am
the total mirror image of them, amazing,so much biodiversity.. I have
met real M2F's before it was amazing... ike staring into a mirror..
where everything is oposite to myself.
>
> ah myspace sux... to much.. disliked it from the start, first of
all because i could not start a "music" account.. now i am just to
fed up... why the hell must i upload my music... dont know who would
like it... my father screwed things up for me in getting it
commercial.. like everything else.. dot know what to do... i just to
art and listen to dana... but i have decded to try and move to
Thailand nad find work there... and the resources for girl pills and
the such are nearby... and would get more support and understanding
than the employers of my own country..so many ladyboys, trans girls
etc... i would fit in. But to get there is another problem...
>
> Anyway, Thanks for writing, and brining this yahoo group up from
the dead
> Love and hugs
> Danielle
> ((^_^))
>
>
> > I feel like I talk a lot.  I wish people had more to say.
> > There is so
> > much to talk about.  I am thinking about Dana.  I wish she
> > is happy.
> > She makes me happy!  I've been feeling a lot of stress
> > lately.  I've
> > been feeling ill.  I had a allergy flu.  It sucked.  I just
> > got off
> > myspace.com and found it boring.  I wish my friends were
> > talkative.
> > They are so quiet which makes me think what are they
> > thinking of?
> > People just make me think, I wish I knew what they thought
> > of all day.
> > I don't know.  I feel frusterated at my life.  Guess
> > what though, Dana
> > International gets me through the day.  Just thinking about
> > her.  and
> > her music.  She is so pretty and mysterious.  I wish I was
> > her
> > boyfriend.  I wish I was a boy.  She is so wild and calm
> > it's, she's
> > very pacifying.  Dana is hot!
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Shalom, how is your flue getting along?

Hmm actualy found out now, my yahoo group has vanished into the black
hle of cyberspace... dont know if i deleted it(as i was planning to) or
if it was yahoo, because it was in-active, from this i deduced that my
site must be at deadline 9th of August, womans day...

I will be adding links to this and other social places.. for interest
sakes..

Love and hugs
P.s what is your thaughts on the new Dana album? and the song that Boaz
sung (which Dana wrote) this years Eurovision.. I aplogise as well for
being such a female motivated feminist.. i have my reasons.. everyone
is different

Danielle
((^_^))

Shalom there

Well people dont say much these days :-/ including me... its possibly because my
hope is run out... dont know what to do with my life etc etc and so on so
forth...out of energy.. and holding to what little hope i have..

She seems to be happy, i dont know, have not asked her, because i canot see
her.. so i dont know :-( but others will know, but do knowand have recieved a
photo from a freind, Dana seemedto be full of smiles, having fun and stuff, so i
guess she is ok, and also her song came 9th in Eurovision sung by Boaz...
anything more, i dont know... i am just much in the dark.. but i let you know
that people dont use yahoogroups much anymore, and rather lurk forums, strange
enouph.. I am lurking on http://danaintern.14.forumer.com. There is also an
official forum... but everyone speaks hebrew , so i dont go much there only to
like to wish her for her birthday, send her regards about events that I know,
and thats about it...
I hope you get well soon over that flue, I had a crappy virus few days
ago...yup, stress can be caused by alot of reasons..Mine is alot of things...
and i have not got a job yet, maybe because not having a job is tressing me
out.. :-/ since i ony moved an inch forward in transitioning, where people i met
years ago, are happy and prouncing around like fairies now..
Hmm lol she is beautifull :-) and i wish i was her girlfreind hehehehe ... wish
for thinking, tachlom tachlom... lol
She does get me through the day most of the times, as well as doing art, i do my
art, and pay her through the earphones or speakers... depending the "atmosphere"
in the house...

Well I wish there were no males on the planet from the start..., ou know "boys
with toys"... but thats my own feelings... and dont feel upset about them, was
not attacking you with them, i am just merely saying it, and F2M people just
leave me with my draw dropped. As i am the total mirror image of them,
amazing,so much biodiversity.. I have met real M2F's before it was amazing...
ike staring into a mirror.. where everything is oposite to myself.

ah myspace sux... to much.. disliked it from the start, first of all because i
could not start a "music" account.. now i am just to fed up... why the hell must
i upload my music... dont know who would like it... my father screwed things up
for me in getting it commercial.. like everything else.. dot know what to do...
i just to art and listen to dana... but i have decded to try and move to
Thailand nad find work there... and the resources for girl pills and the such
are nearby... and would get more support and understanding than the employers of
my own country..so many ladyboys, trans girls etc... i would fit in. But to get
there is another problem...

Anyway, Thanks for writing, and brining this yahoo group up from the dead
Love and hugs
Danielle
((^_^))


> I feel like I talk a lot.  I wish people had more to say.
> There is so
> much to talk about.  I am thinking about Dana.  I wish she
> is happy.
> She makes me happy!  I've been feeling a lot of stress
> lately.  I've
> been feeling ill.  I had a allergy flu.  It sucked.  I just
> got off
> myspace.com and found it boring.  I wish my friends were
> talkative.
> They are so quiet which makes me think what are they
> thinking of?
> People just make me think, I wish I knew what they thought
> of all day.
> I don't know.  I feel frusterated at my life.  Guess
> what though, Dana
> International gets me through the day.  Just thinking about
> her.  and
> her music.  She is so pretty and mysterious.  I wish I was
> her
> boyfriend.  I wish I was a boy.  She is so wild and calm
> it's, she's
> very pacifying.  Dana is hot!
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
dana-international group:

Which song would you prefer to listen to?

   o Love Is All There is
   o Woman In Love
   o This is the Night
   o Tease Me
   o Gotta Move On


To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
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Thanks!

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
dana-international group:

Which english song do you like most?

   o Love Is All There Is
   o Woman In Love
   o Gotta Move On
   o Tease Me
   o This is the Night


To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

I would like to see if she will make it on top 10.  Madonna and
Justin's dance song 4 mins make it.

Shalom, I had one, i do dont go to it anymore because:
1: my myspace paged turned all latino and i clicked wrong buttons and it ended
being stuck that way...
so i did not bother to create a new one, and always found myspace to be "buggy"
since  i tried to make a music account, did not work, and cant change the email
to a new email address, and lastly , cant onvert a non nmusic account to a music
account...
also some peop;e/your freinds and ones you love, there pages get so cluttered..
take ages to load, and my one freind, her page took 20Mbs to download... :-/

I am on facebook, much cleaner and security is better.


Web site alternate http://www.zanainternational.2ya.com
vote here http://www.zanainternational.freeservers.com
mailing list:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dana_international_and_ts_by_zana
my emails:zanainternational@...,Zana@... Transsexual
rights are human rights!



--- On Wed, 6/25/08, rodriguezp39 <rodriguezp39@...> wrote:

> From: rodriguezp39 <rodriguezp39@...>
> Subject: [dana-international] Hello.
> To: dana-international@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 9:01 PM
> I am new to this message board.  Just wanted to say do you
> guys have a
> myspace.com?
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I am new to this message board.  Just wanted to say do you guys have a
myspace.com?

Hi there!

Does anybody have the lyrics from HAKOL ZE LE TOVA in greek alphabet?
I got the original cd from isreal but cannot read anything ;-) and
Geir's great lyric-site Site has no update.

Thank you very, very much in advance!

Greetz,
Sandrokan

diva_discordia@...

Shalom
I hope you fine,
Here is the text which I edited from Wikipedia the largest and online
encyclopaedia on the planet, bigger than Encyclopaedia Galactica and
cheaper than the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, cutting out all
irrelevant topics not related to the planet Earth.

This was a page from searching for "Dana International" in (Wikipedia)
http://www.wikipedia.com
As you see below is the edited text which I would like to put in, some
are small updates of extra data, but the main emphases is the change
of Dana's beginning, since it referred Dana to the unfortunate
masculine appearance. Me if i were Dana and searching the
encyclopaedia about myself, I would have been upset of the misuse of
gender pronouns in the early description of the text.
This encyclopaedia is the backbone of many searches nowadays, it
appears mostly first in Google, and it gives a summarised version
possible of all possible websites relating to the matter. Many school
kids, university students use Wikipedia for a start/kick start for
there research, and to provide a background coverage for there final
complete search and research. From this it is wrong to miss-use the
gender pronouns especially of a transsexual person that is opposite of
there gender role they exist today and in the future. It could cause a
negative perception/cause possible passive discrimination to ignorant
viewers, not fully understanding the feelings of the individual to
whom the text is written about. I do thank them very much to place
Dana in the encyclopaedia, but certain things need to be changed, so
that trans people wont feel upset/offended by certain things, which
are fact, and not taken into consideration as fact. An example of this
is the ID Document/Number/Social Security number system. According to
the majority of governments on this planet, using a male to female
transsexual as an example is considered only to be legally female, if
the person has undergone gender reassignment surgery, regardless to
how feminine this person looks, talks, feels and such... Many girls
try to get this legality by creating wormholes and shortcuts even when
not having the gender reassignment surgery at the time due to the fact
it costs an arm, a leg even a liver and a possible brain, to fool the
system, and fit comfortably in society without the hustle and the
bustle, or gender complications

So please read through and give me the go ahead, and also have a
chance to add in your bit. By the way, many new website masters doing
Dana International as a topic would also look at this first to get an
idea how to start and when to start, and where to stick in there other
research.
Lotsa love and hugs
Danielle
((^_^))



[edit] Biography
Sharon Cohen was born on the second of February 1972 and named by her
parents as Yaron. The name was from her uncle who died in a terrorist
attack  She was identified as male at the time of birth, as in the
case of all male to female transsexual people. She was the youngest of
three children (Her older sister is Limor and her brother Nimrod).
Sharon realized very early in life that he was a performer. She
enjoyed the Eurovision Contest and followed it closely, especially
when Ofra Haza represented Israel with the song Chai (1983). She had a
very happy childhood, and although her family was quite poor, her
mother always found money to pay for her music lessons. She wanted to
become a singer when she was eight years old The years had passed and
this she grew older and was still a little boy at the time, but a
little girl inside, the first tragedy in her life was: That her best
friend Daniel whom she loved and admired, and who prophesied that
Sharon would have a successful career as a singer. Daniel died in a
car accident. From past to present (Sharon) Dana keeps on remembering
this fact with tears. At the age of thirteen she realised that she was
not a little boy but a little girl, she wanted to live the rest of her
life as a girl.

[edit] Career

[edit] 1992–1993: Dana International
When she was 18, Yaron (at the time)/Sharon started to earn her own
money working as the countries first drag-queen. She  parodied many
famous singers and women and performed very well in her true gender
identity which is a woman. During a show she was discovered by one of
the most famous Israel DJs, Offer Nissim. Finally Sharon could make
her dream a reality: singing, singing as a woman. Dana's first hit was
the song Saida Suldana (My Name Is Not Saida). It was a satirical
cover of Whitney Houston's song "My Name Is Not Susan". It received a
great deal of radio airplay.
In 1993, Dana flew to London for sex reassignment surgery (also better
known as gender reassignment surgery) and legalized her name as Sharon
Cohen. That same year she released her first album, Dana
International, in Israel, which was soon released in Greece and other
Middle Eastern countries such as Egypt and Jordan. Her stage name came
from the title track of this album. Dana International soon went gold
in Israel. The title of the album also contained a song of hers which
is well known "Danna International". (Note the two n's in the song
title).

[edit] 1994: Israeli award
In 1994 she released her second album Umpatampa, which was even more
successful and provided a few of her hits. This album went platinum in
Israel and has sold more than 50,000 copies to date. Because of her
popularity and the success of this album, she won Best Female Artist
award in Israel.

[edit] 1995: Eurovision song contest
In 1995, Dana tried to fulfill her childhood dream of performing in
the Eurovision song contest. She entered the Eurovision qualifying
contest in Israel with a song Good Night Europe and came in second.
But she didn't give up and of course it was not the end of Eurovision
for Dana. In late 1995, Dana released an EP called E. P. Tampa, with
three new songs and four remixes and special versions of her earlier
songs.

[edit] 1996–1997: Consolidating popularity
In 1996, Dana released her third album. Although this album was less
successful than her previous, it still reached gold record sales in
Israel and included the hits Don Quixote, Waving and the club smash
Cinquemilla. In 1997, Dana collaborated with the Israeli artist Eran
Zur on the album entitled Another Sex, which became a huge hit.


CD single cover for Diva

[edit] 1998: Diva and mainstream spotlight
Dana was chosen to represent Israel in the Eurovision song contest
with Diva, a song written by Tzvika Pick. The Orthodox and religious
people were opposed to her selection and tried to void her
participation in Eurovision. However, in may 1998, Dana performed Diva
at the Eurovision contest and took Europe by storm, winning the
contest with 174 points. She became a true international superstar,
being interviewed by CNN, BBC, Sky News and MTV among others.
Dana's own words "the message of reconciliation" which changed Israel
and the outlook of some religious people were; "My victory proves God
is on my side. I want to send my critics a message of forgiveness and
say to them: try to accept me and the kind of life I lead. I am what I
am and this does not mean I don't believe in God and I am not really
part of the Jewish Nation.".
Dana released Diva as a single in Europe and it became a hit, reaching
number 11 in the UK charts and the top ten in Sweden, Belgium,
Finland, Ireland and the Netherlands, selling more than 400,000 copies
worldwide.

[edit] 1999–2001: Stage falling, Streisand cover and new albums
In 1999, Dana released Woman In Love, a Barbra Streisand cover, but it
was not the hit that Diva had been. In May 1999, Dana International
again participated in the Eurovision Song Contest held in Jerusalem.
Dana was a part of the interval act and she sang the Stevie Wonder
song Free. She also presented the winners award but embarrassed
herself accidentally by falling over on the stage in front of a
television audience estimate of 1 billion or more, whilst carrying the
heavy trophy.
She released her international album Free in Europe in 1999, which did
not endeavour any large success. A few months later Dana returned to
Israel and started to work on different projects. Israeli and Japanese
editions of Free were released in 2000. That same year, an Israeli
documentary film was made about Dana called "Lady D".
In 2001, after a break, Dana released her 7th album More and More.
This album put Dana International back on track in Israel and provided
two hits: I Won and After All, which eventually went gold in Israel.

[edit] 2002–2006: Fading from the scenes and Sony incident
Dana was a big star with great expectations. She was about to sign a
big record deal with major Sony BMG, but something went wrong in the
negotiations. There were disagreements that led Sony to cancel the
deal before it was completed. In 2002, she released another album, The
Possible Dream, which did not do as well as expected. In 2003, she
released a CD collection, containing all singles from The Possible
Dream and also a new house version of Cinquemilla, titled
A.lo.ra.lo.la with several remixes. A few years later, in 2005, Dana
participated in the 50th anniversary of the Eurovision song contest,
held in Copenhagen, after "Diva" was selected as 1 of 14 songs
considered to be one of the best Eurovision songs. The song
unfortunately did not make it into the final top five. She also
recorded the song Lola (sung in French), to which she released a
video. This video can be found on the CD Hakol Ze Letova, released in
2007 as a bonus CD-rom video.

[edit] 2007: Return to music
After a few years away from show business, together with the re-launch
of her official website, a first single of the upcoming album was
released in March 2007: Hakol ze letova (It's all for the best). The
second single to be released from the album, Love Boy, became the most
played song on Israeli radio in a decade.[1] The full album, also
titled Hakol ze letova, was released on August 15, 2007. At muhana was
the third single and Seret Hodi ("Indian Movie", feat. Idan Yaniv) the
fourth to be released from the album, which became a bestseller in
many online stores.

[edit] Discography
1993 Dana International, IMP Dance
1994 Umpatampa, IMP Dance
1995 E.P.Tempa, IMP Dance
1996 Maganuna (Crazy), Helicon/Big Foot
1998 Diva - The Hits, IMP Dance
1999 Free, CNR Music
2000 Free (Israeli edition), NMC
2001 Yoter ve yoter (More and more), NMC
2002 Ha'chalom ha'efshari (The possible dream), IMP Dance
2003 The CDs collection, IMP Dance
2007 Hakol ze letova (It's all for the best), Hed Arzi Ltd.

"Yaron was the youngest of three children (the others are an older
sister Limor and an older brother Nimrod). Yaron realized very early
in life that he was a performer. He enjoyed the Eurovision Contest and
followed it closely, especially when Ofra Haza represented Israel with
the song Chai (1983). He had a very happy childhood, and although his
family was quite poor, his mother always found money to pay for his
music lessons. The years passed and this little boy became older, and
then happened the first tragedy in his life: his best friend Daniel
whom he loved and admired, and who prophesied Yaron a big career as a
singer, died in a car accident. Nowadays Dana keeps on remembering
this fact with tears."

Well doesnt one find this a bit crude in regards to transgender
rights, well just because she was born and labled a male because of
her gender organ, does not mean to call "he" and "his" pronouns. As
Dana in her earlier years believed she was female inside is this not so?

I am asking permission to edit this to be less bias towards the
transgendered comunity, since us TS girls are the ones that support
her and praise her the most for her successfullness...

Love ya lots
Danielle
P>S i will tomorrow, re-compile the text, and submit it and so you can
review it so the original text is updated.

Happy New International Year 2008

(P.s so whats happening with Dana now ?? )

Shalom All I would like to wish you a happy International Year
Its Danielle here (Zana International /Elfy)
I hope you are all fine, just let you know i have graduated, still
looking for work, and have a little it better internet access.
I am looking for work near Cape  Town, or in the city, since i am a
member of Gender Dynamix (http:www.genderdynamix.org.za)
I hope you are fine and well and have a lovely time where you are...
me i am stuck here with my parents, and we already arguing at each
other...

to view whats happned to me and stuff if you interested:
http://www.zananeichan.deviantart.com

I hope this year would be good for you
Love ya lots
Danielle
((^_^))

Shalom all
I am sorry I cannot write to you all a separate message, so i post
this message to all, since i still dont have internet, and very
pennyless, so please bear with me. However i have replied some
individual emails that were sent to my private email address. I am
going to change my email to the genderdynamix one when i have the
money and chance, its set up already, i just have to send it to some
people... I try do that next month, telling people of my new email
address change, but the other 2 yahoo emails will still be open. The
reason why i am switching over is because i am fond of gender
dynamix and all the people there, and also a member, and secondly
yahoo is hopeless when uploading attachments to emails. but i just
had not the chance and money to send it out letting people know, and
hell, i dont even know the email address , i think its
zana@.... (if i had internet and was working i
would have been able to done this as soon as i got it.

I am also letting you know i have decided that after my exams in
October, I will be going to Cape Town, to plan to live there, and
first to find work and a reasonable paid job that will cover basic
living cecessities(rent,food,etc) + the cost of moving on with my
transition at a very basic level first (precribed pills + hair
removal) + enouph to get myself a small economical vehicle. First I
have to get work, before thinking of rent. With rent, it would be a
great idea if i share rent with someone, and this is most likely to
be one of my new close freinds. This would make the expenses less a
little.

So people who live in Cape Town, please let me know if you want to
employ me, and let me know if i have to bring my own PC along with
me, to start more or less soon as I arrive. Marlene(Dr.Eve) Please
let me know if you want me to start working for you again... and
distance wont be a problem. I would have fully completed my degree
by then, but the certificates will be processed in January/February,
and my marks i will get in December.Let me know f you want a student
record as well...

The reason why i want to settle in Cape Town, is to illiminate my
lonelyness, as i do not have anyone to visit or chat with here in
Eshowe, nor do i have anyone to love and who loves me too in Eshowe.
I am feeling very homesick, and i feel accepted and loved by more
people in Cape Town than in my own town, as where i am, people act
fine to me, but behind my back its a different story. There is no
future for me in Natal, as i tried for two years and got negetive
responces, the only positive responces, but did not happen, or did
nt last due to distance, finances etc, was Enya (Africa Adventure)
and Marlene (Dr.Eve) and they were out of Natal. Natal is also very
tied up with politics and very pro BEE(Black Econimic Empowerment)
where they prefere race to skills, and very fed up about the whole
thing, and just want to leave all that as i cannot fight it, when i
am also fighting gender discrimination which is a far bigger issue.
Not just the politics, here in Natal, they not very accepting
towards the gender odities.
Also if i get employment from people outside gender dynamics, at
least i will have gender dynamics nearby if there is a problem. Also
i will be closer to Gender Dynamix and help them as well what i can
in my free time, and attend all the meetings and social gatherings..
and i dont have a social life where i live.

First of all how do i get there? well it was my brithday on Saturday
(04/08) and i asked my mum not to spend t on pressies but so i can
use it for a ticket out of hell + i got a very cheap pen tablet for
helping em to draw better instead of using the mouse, this was
intended for work for Marlene, as the work she wanted me to do was
just down my lane... nice sensual cute anime stuff for her website..
talking about her, those who have not seen the pointed eared version
of the character, it can be seen in recent submissions on
http://www.zananeichan.deviantart.com. The image has a hidden code
and meaning if there are some who want to figure it out. I promised
to put pointed ears on it if she closed this deal with the website
character. Well the R10 i took from my father..., well actualy asked
him for it first, and he said no, and i took it.. tiered of my
parents refusals especialy around gender issues, and the money my
father wasted on crap.

The birthday money from mum R400 , I ask her to give me for my
ticket out of hell, but to get what i need i tried to do some small
business here such as fixing PCs requesting people for art, and its
been no joy, especialy that I cant afford to put an advert in the
local newspaper, and people in the town kept on pulling down my ads
of the advertising boards in public areas, its got to the point when
i see them off, i then at night wood glue them to the notice board.
So I have nt had much of a birthday, the only wonderfull thing that
happned was i got a call from Laura:-), if it wasnt for her it would
have been a total disaster, thank you Laura *(((((9hugs))))).
So I am asking you if you want me to do some artwork for you, for
the money to cap up from R400 to R1000 if i can do some artwork for
you, a very very high detailed image, if it be a 3D portrait of you
or something, or even manga stuff, I let you know i will be taking
my time on it because my exams are in October, also it would help me
to regain my creativity, since i had not done anything since the
pointed eared Dr.Eve, due to reasons worying people think I am
shit...

Please if you could contact me by immediately by phone 0734704620 or
if you watching your money by the email zanaloveselfies@...,
but i can only check this next month, as i am bone dry, because the
price of my herbal oestrogens went up, the price of posting went up
(had to post a parcel in regards to someone in Estonia who gave me
Manga Studio and chocolates, and gave them Poser 5 including models
and things i got+ a CD of more software + chocolates
(cadburies/nestle as beacon sux) + an elf necklase). The postage
costed R20 more than the items in total i spent in the package. So i
am left with R30, which is gone on the internet, with R10 left.

Please send a description of the artwork you want from me, if its a
self protrait, or a portrait of you and your freinds, to send a
front photo of the head(s), and side photo of the head(s) with a
rouph scetch of the scene, you can use shapes and stick people if
you cannot draw well, also remember to label each element in your
scetch, so i know what it is, and where each thing goes in the
scene. Please this will help me alot...
I will negociate costs of the artwork, in relation o your budget,
and quality of the image...(3D) manga/anime stuff will be R50 an
image, since its quicker than doing cmplex, large 3D scenes, which i
will charged according to your budget, and complexity... and i will
throw in a few special offers/secrets that will come along with it...
and i want out, and hope that i only use one ticket to Cape Town,
and settle there... Please tell others about me, so that they can
arrange interviews... I cant see job offers in Cape Town as i dont
have internet, and the money to use internet for that, and there is
nthing as such in the newspapers here.. al are in Natal , Natal,
which i could not get anything for 2 years. Even the local job in
this Town i live in...

Thank you I would appreciate that, I will contact you on a regular
basis on my progression of the artwork by phone if you in south
africa.

Well besides that, i read  the newspaper here "Sunday Tribune" and
in the magazine section they spoke of Dr.Eve (Marlene), and a
paragraph in the artcile was about her book called the pillow
book... I read that the book was about girly sensual stuff, which
captivated me... so Marlene, when i go to Cape Town, and managed to
find work, I would like to buy 3 copies from you personaly, and
maybe you can autograph them. One is for myself, and the other two i
would like to give to my 2 special freinds in the Cape:-)  Those
others who dont know what the pillow book is or what it entales ,
well its a book about some sensual stuff, ideas for woman who dont
have an idea to think about when with somone, to engage in sensual
extra tender loving moments... I dont know if this is listed on her
website, for more information, contact her at her website::
http://www.dreve.co.za , yup the website would by now have had at
least a few anime/manga things on it to liven it up... perahaps it
does in parallel univeres...

Tina Engela, I have not forgotten you either, as i still promised i
would buy one of your comedy sci-fi books once i have a job ;-)  but
dont know which one to start with... as i already have a few of your
stories,... I hope you keeping well, sorry i have not phoned, not
sure if you want to be bothered or nt by the sensual pointed eared
thing...

Studying for me, well it been difficult, due to the fact i had lost
some self easteem, as i was hoping to get my self started up and
running, but what was the cherry on the top of my parents shit was
UNISA, my last hard programming C++ asignment, ended up in a mess at
UNISA. First of all, i recieved a call from a student in Richards
Bay who is not registerd with the subject, phoned me and said she
had my assignment, which was stapled to another student, and the
comment of the marker was that, she had been cheating from me, and
the other student's work is unknown.. a line had been drawn through
my work, and had not been marked. I contacted the lecturer up to
enquire, she said someone deleted and canceled my assignment(lucky
they did not cancel the subject alltogether), so i had to re-submit
it, i am not to sure if it was a political motive by the markers
working under her. I had to re-send the assignment to her privately
to be marked. because of this, i worry for my exams, and hope they
dont be handeled in such a manner, and i have asked that I get a
notification if the lecturers have recieved my exam papers. So i had
been very upset about that too...

I also got myself a handbag, found that mum had thrown her old one
in the bin, cant understand why she could not have given it to me...
what a waist, and there are no tears, holes etc... and the zip is
fine. I also asked my mum for her old hair dryer, or even to borrow
it but she refused, and now has given it away to my brother's
wife... also the jewerlery box i fixed for my mum which she got from
my gran, which i loved, she also gave that away to my brother's
wife, and she took it from my mum without saying thank you... also
very upset abut that.

Yup its a long message... and i need to get out, and hope i get
something for workwise, where i feel welcomed and loved, and be
happy...

Oh in the local newspaper of the town eshowe, i see the editer did
not put in stuff about transsexuality, which i hoped she put in to
make the town understand it better... I will see her sometime about
and enquire... I dont know if she contact Liesl about Gender Dynamix

Love ya lots:-), and miss ya lots :-(
Danielle
((^_^))

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Shalom all, i am going to post this in most places, as it contains
my personal updates, and news... based on following topics.. First I
start of that, I just have one assignment left to complete all my
work for the year and will be taking a whole week off from studying,
and programming, and then start off with 4 hours a day and progress
to more hours as i head towards the exams. This gives me a chance to
do some more work for DR.Eve, as i will be doing a colour image for
her over the weekend in manga/anime style like she insists. But i am
still waiting for her to come back to me with the internet access
story, but Once i have a high quality colour image of her character,
i would be fully waiting on her... and i hope she communicates when
she sees it.

I want to thank all of those who provided me with Manga studio, I
got 2 copies now, and others may arrive, if any has sent already,
please if you still trying to download it for me there is no need, I
have got it now, Thank you ((^_^)) those who have already sent , and
I recieve it you will still get your part of the deal. The reason
why i asked around in parrallel as its quicker than working in
series in getting things done, where the plans run simultaniously as
some may fail, and some may succeed. Thank you very much for your
help, and if you sent a little extra than the manga studio, you will
recieve the little extra back + extra ;-) for example, i a copy from
Europe, and she sent me the DVD + chocolates.. so she will send the
DVD i promised + chocolates + a necklase ;-)
I am just still reading through the manuals, and playing around with
the software... but start this evening on actual work. Tomorrow i
would have to give a miss, as i go to Durban for C++ and to get more
program examples to work through from the lecturer, which i would do
after my week of rest from studies, and work on the tutorial on
skinning, since i just got tatooing to do, and on my website... have
not touched it in ages...I dont think anyone misses it... oh well ...

Well me personaly, life has not been interesting since i was at Cape
Town and Gender Dynamix, just the regular everyday nonsence... as
you all know, moaning parents, working on studies, doing art etc...

With Gender Dynamix, the lady in charge did manage to see my
template for the newsletter:-) and she seems to be happy with it
which i am so glad... and I wait from her what she wants to do next
with it. those who interested can look up on GDX:
www.genderdynamix.org.za.And it sux i cannot keep up with the
discussions on the forums there:-(, as i would love to put in some
of my imput there... but still dont have inernet access.

About Dana International, well since i have not been online I dont
know whats happening with her, just get small updates from a freind
who sends me emails, and we been freinds now for well... let me see
about 6-7 years... wow... time just dissapears...
Well I was just wondering if her voice is getting a little deeper
because of her age, or i am just hearing things... as i compared her
new music with her old, and these are same songs...
Those who are interested in Dana International, my favourite singer
who is a TS woman like myself... but she has completed her
struggle::www.danainternational.co.il she still looks fabulouse
despite her age now. I would apreciate it if someone emails me some
information about her... as everytime i go online i have to
reactivate some of my email accounts/as they get closed due to
inactivity, and when i reactivate them, all emails sent to them get
deleted..:-( so i cannot keep up , pls email to me zanaloveselfies @
yahoo . co . uk (remove spaces) also it is nice to chat via emails,
even if our communication is one month delayed.

Now this image which i have been doing:: in recent
submissions::www.zananeichan.deviantart.com
Shortcut links to actual images::

Sweet Elvin Times
----------------------
Widescreen background:: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/59201952/
Full elf scene       ::http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/59202131/

You can download them and print seperately for free, or you can
purchase the posters/prints off the site....

the wide screen background, can be set nicely for those rich people
who have wide screen monitors and hang over there whole
bedroom/office wall... well it is nice to look at, as some of you
money loaded people worked your asses off to get there... some just
rich bastards piggybacked inheritance... and live of the sweat of
your parents,lol But it can be viewed for hours...even if its a
still image.

The elvin scene is done for all the special people in my heart,
those who left, and those who stayed... Those who read this, know
who they are... I dont have to mention names... Also to the ones who
helped me with Manga Studio, the Dana fans, and all the TS people I
met in GDX, and around the world.. including Dana(Sharon).

The main characters are Zana(based on me) and Zanaria They just
standing close together... The Poem below is based on them...
The elves on the left, the one on the ground in particular, is based
on my freind "Laura" in cape town whoime i spent the last night
with, which would use her again with "Kayla" in my next elf
image.This is why this image is especialy dedicated to her ;-)
Then on the right is a tailed elf, and a borg elf. Other characters
in scene are 4 fairies, and swimming dolphins and Mermaids, in the
water in the distance. I hope you enjoy the fantasy journey into the
image.....escape the hardships, pain, problems... and enter my world
that exists in my imagination, which i regularly escape into.

==================================
Sweet Elvin Times
==================================
Thunder rolled beneath the rainbow skies.
Adding base, and extacy in the afternoon skies
The sounds of the elvin life are forever filled.
With song and buzzy fluttery fairy-winged things.
There high piched sqweaks and giggles.
The air is always fulled with happy sighs.
That flow from every warm moving elvin pile.
Where shiny wet bodies glisten and hearts always listen.
In the warmness of the setting bright sun glisten.

"Zanria" Zana sighed.. "Is this thy love?"
"To stand by me in this lovely grove?"
"Immured in in the shimmer warm waters?"
"Photosynthisizing up they beloved warm sun?"
"My beloved golden synthesized girl"

"Ah" Zanria smiled "I comest with lover's speed"
"Thy once beloved elf to see thoust feed."
"Thy heart is alive, I long to strive"
"No more tears to fall from thy beloved eye."

"My beauty is but small."
"I may be Queen of the elves."
"I love you all from my tender heart."
"I hunger for all elves to be my part."
"Of mine, thy royal hearts, your royal heart."

Zanaria pulled Zana close
Giggled and grinned as if she took dope.
Plucked out her toungue, squeezed Zana tightly like rope.
Pushed herself into Zana in a daze
The regular elvin greeting way...

Zana giggled while amused and bemused.
"All elves are wild flowers and fair."
"There beauty are unique, nothing to compair."
"Cute shiney nymphs they are."
"They praise thou humble charms."
"Lets join them and splash in the blaze".
"Its going to be another love phase these days"

The two dark elve's hearts collided once again.
There love, happyness and song filled the thick air...
The two dark elve's lips collided once again.
There giggles, laughter and warmth filled the thick air...
The two dark elve's toungues collided once again.
There sighs of love hummed with the music in the thick air...
The two dark elve's bodies collided once again...
There fall splashed water into the thick air and everywhere...
On all the elves laughing and singing in the thick air.

These are the sweet elvin times
Where the air is always warm
Where all the love given is gentle and warm
Where all elves hearts, are forever warm
Where there hearts listen and there bodies glisten.
Where there song is always beautifull when you listen.

They love to sing, they love to laugh.
They love to touch, they love to play.
They love to talk, they love to listen
They love to dance, they love to love.
They love to care, they love to share
This is what they treasure and share
These sweet elvin days forever here.

=====================================
There in the background, you can see the elvin mothership, and its
the same landscape as my previous image of the Blue Moon, this is
still on the Elvin Colony on the Blue Moon which orbits a gas giant
planet like Saturn. The elves are in the bio-structure
(biogenetically grown building/plant home) at the end of the little
plains Island. the motherShip, is parked in a large lagoon/crater or
sea and Its getting charged up by the storm The elves are enjoying
there time together, while the storm increases, and the sun sets,
producing a rainbow accross the sky.The storm had first been started
by a large group of chanting/singing Dark Elves releasing there
magic powers into the sky in the form of lightning coming from the
bodies.
for more information about the elves and elvin technology and magic
please contact me... i dont want to repeat myself again...(only when
asked me individualy) ..only if you interested.

Love ya lots and lots
((((hugs)))) and kissies
Danielle
((^_^))

Shalom All
I have lots of news, I am sorry i cannot write each person, place an
individual email of this topic
because of my internet access problems, however, specific details i
will post to individual persons such as very close freinds, who have
posted me emails, and I reply them, and include this text as well.
As you know I went away for 4 days in Cape Town to a conference about
transsexuality and such, and it was a bit different from what i
expected, but I enjoyed it, and I am glad they took me in to be part
of the team in getting things done for Transsexuals around south
africa, which then possibly grow throughout Africa and then globely..
The conference(they call workshop, since workshop is a well known
word for a conference in south africa, it does not have anything to
do with tools and mechanics) was hosted by Gender Dynamix, a non
profit organization. yes as you agree that Transsexuality is not
sexual orientation but gender orientation, but it is supported by
sexual orietated organizations, where it can develope. Alot was done,
alot of planning etc, it was hard to believe that this was real and
not a university project, and I want to take part as long as i stay
in South Africa(i dont know what life is going to throw at me), and
even support it, if i leave south africa, expanding the borders of
Gender Dynamix.
There website (our website) is http:\\www.denderdynamix.org.za for
more details

Liesl is the leader or puppet master if humouresly stated(Robbert's
acronym) for a few giggles, she runs the show and got everything all
organised.. The goals are to let more people around the country
accept transsexuals and respect them as if they were any other
citizen in the country, and be able to get jobs like anyone else..
Gender Dymix provenly qoutes my past expereinces in the documentation
each recieved

"In spite of new legsilation(Sex Discrimination Amendment Act of
2003) trans people who have started transition are still unable to
change their identity documents to reflect there gender.This has
implications for there safety, employment, ability to access grants,
open bank accounts and other essential administration for living."

This sounds like a summery of all i told in my posts since i ever put
my foot online!!!
So me working for Gender Dynamix dedicating my good will, big heart
etc... and power to do the best wat i can , i will do for the
organization.
In the four days we went undergoing planning and discussuions, and
ended up with groups of people doing  various projects. My projects
which i need to get completed is the GDX newsletter, Then working on
a podcast which will work together with the newsletter with people of
our project.

4 People I will be working with, as well as rest of GDX (Gender
Dynamix)
I am starting to design the template of the newsletter, so when any
news arrives, i have to work with the others, Liesl has to be
notified first before it goese anywhere...
First i am going to complete desiging the layout, then i will let the
others I am working with including Liesl and board members to look at
it and see if they happy with it, it is the template which one would
just add text and pics etc to it...The others are doing a wide range
of projects.

Eventualy we want the organization to help and support transsexuals,
in gaining work, assistence in medical treatment and shelter in the
futuren which is the goal in the future.

Besides spending indoors working together, I had a fabulous time,
meeting new freinds with many cultures and diversity, it was
fantastic!:-) I only used to communicate by phone or internet with
some of them, but first time i met them face to face , which was
wonderfull, and a suprise, it was one of those best things in my life
that ever happned to me, and i love all of the people who came, and
well if i forgot to hug one, please let me know so i can hug them, i
think i hugged most or all of them, dont remember...if one of them
did not, well let me know, so if ever i see you , i give you a double
hug :-) Also it was the first time i met female to male TS people,
and it gave me a better understanding about them, I am glad i worked
with such lovely understanding people, and i will always treasure
these 4 days in my heart, and use this to remember what i should do,
so i can make a difference, so that we all can make a difference, if
Liesl started GDX from an idea,everyone part of it can make it go
further in some way or another...
Also i have chosen to recieve any calls from people in my region if
they need help in some way or another.

Two freinds i realy grew close to and spent free time together
chatting, hugging etc...It was the best time of my life ever, first
time I was realy loved, hugged and touched, i wanted to cry... but i
cry now as i only could have dreamed to have found people to be so
sential, warm, caring, loving, open similar to myself. One told me to
work on certain things in my life, such as to fully overcome and
fully forgive those who downed me in life... I have been thinking of
what she said very much, and looking at things with new eyes. That if
i reach my pure self, she said i have a big purpose in the universe,
expecialy after all the past events that happned in life where i
would not have been able to be here today. She did make me think
alot. I still do not know my purpose, she said it would appear when i
reach full purity..

I wish i could take them home with me,lol I was very sad to leave
them, one of them i will be working with the project. I was sad to
leave the one i spent the last night with, and wish I could have
spent the night with bothe of them... Now i just miss there arms,
warm hugs and tenderness... I am glad i could share some tenderness
to others...well I did cry a bit my first night back in eshowe,
missing them, and spending airtime on them,lol...if i can just hold
them in my warm arms, and they the same with me... :-) lol first time
i had recieved and given such love and affection.
One of them is a big Fan of Dana International as well, and showed
them Dana's official site, and to link to a Dana forum from my lame
website(full site still been constructed :-( ) and i also going to
let her know and join the Dana Yahoogroups, and tapuz Forum (the
forum Dana sometimes visits) So I also told a few people of Dana
International. She is also a Sandra fan (not one of my best freinds
in spain,lol) but Sandra who does one of my favourite songs "Art of
love" which is my new freind's song too!! :-) I will be sending her
DVD full of Dana thingies on it since she only has 2 copies of "The
Album" and Dana material in South Africa is just not available.The
song just suits me as a person well.

The Description Of Love:
Love is what should make the world go round... it is what unites us,
combines us, breaks all barriers, brakes all pain and
suffering...love conquers all things...Love brings peace, and harmony
and light, warmth compassion, smiles, freindship one should always
let love flow , it cannot be forced, its a force of its own, an
element of the light side of the Force.It is fragile, gentle, but can
be strong, depending on how pure your heart is. When you love forget
all the pain, all the suffering, and let it wash your soul clean, it
makes you forget and forgive. One can choose the way you love each
other by sharing, or hugging, or holding, touching or caring, or
thinking of one, depending on the one you are showing love to, what
way they are comfortable in recieving love and giving it, it feels if
its how one should connect to the universe, and connect to all
sentiant beings.
It opens doors, opens things one never seen before, it enhances the
mind, makes it wider and accept many possibilities, and many
diversities, makes one cry with joy, makes one feel belong to
something.It makes you understand others, love and respect others
more, it makes you sense better, see what others see, hear what
others hear, feel what others feel, in order to help others, so they
in turn make Love grow...its amazing when one thinks how many
barriers one has in ones heart, even when i look into my own, and
work to change them into love slowly iluminating up my own heart,
until one who is sensitive can see the glow come from within and glow
outwards,.. warm and pure and bright.

Then Another thing came out of the meeting, one of the people who are
also in my project is the well known Dr Eve (she doesnt like being
called that, i soon found that out lol) however i mention it in my
post to cover her identity in my message. She has been on
Durban/Natal's radio East Coast Radio often on a monday night i
think... cant remember exactly, but did listen to some of her shows,
when eastcoast radio did not play to much hip hop(since i cannot
stand hip hop, gonna hip hop till you drop kind of thing...) I have
also talked with other people, This woman actualy has been on most
radio stations around the country... and also there was a TV show,
never saw that, since i never been a fan of south african
television... as most people know i like my imaginative sci-
fi/fantasy series or movies uninterupted with commercials...

She asked me to design a website character for her website(not to
sure what her website is, since she did not give it to me yet) But
one can always google it .. DR. Eve website something like that, but
i guese it may be www.dreve.co.za if she has a registered domain.
Well she said i needed internet in order to complete her job task,
but I dont have internet yet (since the company registration with my
father is stalling, latest news i heard, that the lawyers posted it
to the wrong address, and so they reposted it it again to the correct
address) This is Eshowe .... so slow... so sleepy .... you know
things are slow..in the small forest town, the only thing thats
beautifull about it is the forest, thats about it, with a local beer
named after a zulu with blonde hair, birds that sound like crying
babies, the town with a thousand speed humps etc etc blah blah...at
least its different from Cape Town where the rain falls sideways and
the birds fly backwards...and the sea smells fishy (probably from all
the chumming for tourist shark cage watching).

So In order to get the company name registered, I then can register
with a computer supplier to get parts at retail price to avoid the
accumulated VAT and proffit from one business to another, to compile
a entry level PC worth R1000 to get connected and be online, since i
use my PC 24/7 if i am working its C++, work, assignments, typing,
maintanence, playing music, compiling music, compiling video, doing
other programming, learning Linux, website building, drawing
pictures, photo editing, doing 3D graphics etc, if i am not working,
its rendering, encoding mp3s,DVDs,videos,finalizing new song
compositions, burning CDS, DVDs, running defrag, running diskscan,
running virus scan, registry scan, ripping CDs, DVDs etc...(it had a
brake while I was in Cape Town)  so no one would be able to use it
for internet... it would always be running...and i dont want internet
to be on my work computer since some websites load shit in registery
and load malacious software on the hard drive which takes a long time
to trace... even if it slips through the fire wall, security settings
etc etc...And my parents would want to use the PC as well for there
internet stuff, and typing... as i have to sacrifice my studytime and
worktime and rendertime for them to type stuff on this PC, as the old
one they dont want to use, since they like the speed of this
one...and the old one i wanted to upgrade the RAM , the RAM cards you
cannot buy anywhere, since its obsolete,and cannot connect to the
internet due to its low RAM, since 128Mbs is required.as stated by
telkom.but CPU P1 is fine, but still needs 128Mbs RAM.

So i had to make arrangements with Eshowe computers , the internet
cafe which i use for internet.. very very expensive.. R60 an hour...
if you faint from reading the price, please fall back on some pillows
to avoid a fractured scull!...lol
It took a day and a half to make a deal, since things work very slow
in the smallville eshowe... The owner of Eshowe computers became a
bit grumpy and sick and tired of me especialy when it was after 7,
which he says its late, but my late time at night is 12 or very early
in the morning like 1 or 2 (like Robbert [a GDX board member] says)..
Contacting DR Eve was a mission, sent out messages, and phoned her,
and only her answering machine replies...+someone who sounded like
her but was not her...lol well  eventualy i got an sms reply:-) when
i stated i was uncomfortable with the lack of basic communication ..
that she will contact me sometime about it... and i shal wait and see
the outcome. I understand she has her doctorate hence the DR. in
front of her name... but I also like to do my work proffessionaly was
well, where communciation is essential to get a task done, but not
only done, but done well and properly.

I have acomplete character sketch, after doing a few, this one i am
happy with, but dont know about her...
So she has to comment on it and let me know what needs adjusting,
before i working on the "neat" work.
I have derived this little project plan for it:

Anime/Manga DR Eve website main character
========================================
1) Accepted Internet Deal: (if no): wait until i get my broadband
Internet connection + R1000 or less PC, then continue
    (Postive outlook: Less costs, since Eshowe Computer's internet
deal sucks a little)
                           (if yes): Get started sooner, task
finnieshes sooner, and matter of time, i get my internet
                                     connection.
    (Positive outlook: The time to get it done will be sooner)

2) Once either of the above is completed, When doing the "neat" work
Anime/Manga can be done in various methods,
    not like 3D characters which realy on DAZ3D or Poser. However, the
method of complection is reflected in the completed
    output. Such as methods, software and tools. Once could use Corel
Draw (classic method) or Manga Studio (modern method)
    or use Aiko 3(www.DAZ3d.com)  or similar and modify it and render
a 3D-type anime like Final Fantasy.(realism method) or
    (pre-historic method) drawing the characters, painting them on
paper/comic paper and then scanning them.

3) To get the desired results, speed + quality (includes animation)
comes with extra cost-depending
     , such as getting software
     Obtain Manga Studio from  www.e-frontier.com to purchase or get
free download versions / or search for similar
     applications which may be open source.
     Also choosing the 3D anime/manga option (realism method)
     works best with flash/gif/video.

4) Economy solution: the use of the classic method (Corel Draw) and
prehistoric method, but when working with animation
    time is not your freind, works best with still web graphics
(jpeg/png), not flash/gif/video.

5) Research online for alternative software and resources (free/open
source) will reduce costs

6) Best proposed solution: Wait for my broadband connection(saves
waisting money with eshowe computers for obtaining
    the necessary software) get Manga Studio  and the "neat" version
completed within one week or less, the next week to
    make her "freinds", then upload them(jpg)... then a commic strip
can be created then animation
    (full 5-10 minute video) rouphly once a month... and so on so
forth etc etc... blah blah and it gets faster the more
    I work on it....

7) Contact people for a copy(Manga Studio or similar)... Please
anyone out there who has a copy and not use it , i can repay it for
artwork.

yup thats about it, you can view the character sketch at
www.zananeichan.deviantart.com in recent submissions...

What one can learn from this truelife drama is that: Communication is
essential when working with others, it helps eliminate arrising
suspicions, conflicts, and missunderstandings, which could be
hazardous to the developement of a plan, a project even a freindship,
which can cause it to stall, or even fall apart. I learned this in my
studies with Software Project management, that some form of
communication is essential, to be successfull in a project or work
task. I do apologise that i have internet access problems, and also
that i do not live within Cape Town, as this would have solved alot
effort and problems just like that, and communication would be
easier, but under circumstances one must do what they can with what
resources/communications they have.


Well i dont know what the outcome of that would be only time will
tell, but I would apreciate it if other people out there want
computer graphic rendered portraits of themselves please to come to
me, since i would need the bucks from the portraits to do more online
stuff for Gender Dynamix and as well as keep in touch/upload
art/discuss on forums etc until i get my own internet access, that
depends on the company name story, and contstruction of the R1000 or
less PC.

Also I am still working on the V3 and related figures skin texturing
for the poser figures... have not realy continued yet because i
thaught the Gender Dynamix was of higher priority under my studies,
then DR Eves cutie, then the skinning tutorial.

The time in Cape Town with Gender Dynamix was like a living dream...
magic and love flowed...

Thank you very much
Lotsa love
Danielle
((^_^))

Shalom
I just attach this message to whatever i upload, since i dont have
money to send everything individualy, and i had recieved no personal
emails yet...I just dont have any money as i am still jobless, and
hopelessly empty, i use my last R10 (collected a lot of 10c + 5c
pieces lying around my room...  to upload the Angel Portrait, and
post a hello to where ever it gets sent... many apologies for the
inconveniences... especialy to forums/topic based lists etc...this is
also posted on my recent art submission.

Topics in message:

1) Janet the Angel(portrait graphic)
2) Eurovision and Dana International
3) Skinning Tutorial of Poser Figures
4) Trangender meeting in Cape Town

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1) Janet the Angel { on www.zananeichan.deviantart.com }

This is a portrait I had done for someone in south africa, and this
is the low quality large version of the image/ some places will get
the wallpaper sized version, the person who requested the portrait,
will get the high quaility BMP, and Photoshop files. This image well
it did not strain much out of my machine like the elves do, sicne its
one figure, and a basic background, but it all fits well. It is a
portrait of Janet. I wont go into much personal details about dear ol
Janet... But i thank her very much for helping me out, since i am
getting a bit of money for this, thank you Janet
(((((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))) and i did put a lot of
effort, using the Free RAM/Processing power of my machine, to realy
go into emphasis on skin texture, and fine details etc on the basic
elements in the image... pls, take a look at her skin for example...
all the little bumpies, pores etc.. :-), I wanted to get better
texture on the angel wings by plucking fetahers from the wild geese
here, but could not catch them, so i drew my own feathers, and
textured the obj file...and made it so that the sun can shine through
the feather slits.
Janet, I do hope you love the image:-)

2) Eurovision and Dana International

Well I certainly loved this years Eurovision contest, and it was very
difficult to choose the winner, as I had 4 favourites, all women from
various Eurpean countries, the one that sounded like Bjork, was
brilliant, the girl who looks similar to me, playing the drums and
singing and full of life and energy, realy loved those armbands! :-),
then the woman in the red dress, the gothic girl from Finland!, the
group that won, who looked like Tatu lesbian clones! What i did find
funny was the group that looked like liked something from the wizzard
of Oz, Austria, very catchy tune, and lots of giggles..I also liked
Brits, and there Aeroplain dance drama show...

It was a brilaint show, the only thing that was missing and empty was
that it would have been nice to see Dana International's face
representing the votes from Israel, but I dont understand why Israel,
is always choosing men:-(

I did like the finland princess, the lady that looked like Lara
Croft! and then Father christmass,and the pink dressed, thick haired
blonde bubbely girl..
It was in total a pleasent, great show! However the Tatu-like girls
that one the event, i am very scheptic about them, and i wonder where
they got there chord structure from for the the chorus of there song,
it sounds odly familiar, to the song which i done, as gifts to some
people around the world on cassette. Maybe a strange coincendence,
and i heard the future...most of all i enjoyed the show.

Now about Dana International, I heard from a freind who heard from
another freind that she had married or in the process of marriage on
the telephone, I dont know if this is true, or just a broken
telephone syndrome of one rumour changed into another. Or it may have
been temporal miss alighnment i the time stream.
I do miss her alot, since been offline and cannot check up on things,
and I say special thanks 4 for your emails with some basic update on
about her, thank you XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!
I just hope she is doing well and fine, and she is happy...


3) Skinning Tutorial of Poser Figures
I am still working on this e-book, and halfway through it and as well
as creating plain skin textures, then i will cover tattoos and body
art, and then other 3D texturing to finnish off with...
It would be delayed a bit since i am going to Cape Town. But will
continue working at it when i return, however, i have to slot it
inbetweeen my C++ programing.


4) Trangender meeting in Cape Town
This is the reason why I am going to be in cape town for a week,
several TS woman around South Africa are going to be meeting and have
a convention, discussing the Transgender Issues in South Africa, and
I have been invited, alot is going to be discussed here, as well as
an advantage to make new freinds, and share information and help. The
topics will rouphly cover the situation of TS people and jobs in the
country, acceptance, medical problems and battles within the country,
and acceptance of the issue and government..I will provide some news
on this..

Thanks very much for the emails, and messages those who wrote..
Thank you Virpi, for reminding me of the Eurovision!!:-) I would have
missed it.
Lotsa love and hugs
Danielle
((^_^))

Shalom All
I apologise for just writing one letter for all to read through
groups blogs and forums (which i have been doing lately often)
The reason for this is that i am very broke, and dont have much
money, and still looking for work.
I apologise that i could not watch, comment and look at your forum
messages, blog posts, art submissions, photo uploads etc , and feel
very awfull about it, and i am very very very sorry...

Well I want to thank those who provided some Dana international news
((((((hugs)))))... as i am so out of orbit on the topic..So her new
album release has jumped from February to September... I am so used
to this postponement... its like my life and  transition... its not
going anwhere.. or its still finding somehwere to go..But the only
thing i hear from her these days is the music playing in my ears from
the Cds and songs , I have, it helps the days go by easier...I thank
her for that:-) i recomend it, its good therapy...But it sounds like
Dana is also having a bumpy ride through life.

So excuse the worthless dribble blended in the data you want to read,
if that is you want to read...
the job as a IT technitian at the college failed, "affirmative of
action" is the reason which makes South Africa less like the rainbow
nation as its supposed to be...so i am kind of stuck still...parents
giving me shit... just one more year job or not i am leaving south
africa as i have to complete the aditional subjects.., its realy
getting rediculous. For example i am stuck most of all because of the
change of the University curriculum and have to take two extra
subjects, and they first year ones... and i have gone through first,
second and third...
This job I was banking on, that even stuck , i could get money to
continue with transition, nope they employed someone who has not even
looked at a broken PC yet... sitting in the secratary's office
chatting all day.. "thats what i heard..." i never been to the
college yet.. but going to to take a photo at there so
called "equality act" which they not following...its not just race
and skin colour against me, its this transexual thing... i wish i was
born a proper girl from the start... people are so full of bullshit..
I was so upset , i had another one of those so-called suicide attempts
(this attempt was going to be for all the hardships that not happen
to me but all trans girls who get rejected and be some sort of marter)
, and  ended the plan of suicide ended by trying to contact the
media, phoned them up, they said they want more facts and especialy
the proof of job rejection. hell i contacted the lady of human
resources and she said such information is disclosed, so i left the
media thing till another time, thats when i am planning to have
passive resistance at the bank who will be demanding payment of there
student loan, where the topic would be how can i pay without
employement...

What also makes me sick is the so called promises i get from people
and parents who said they will help find work for me where they dont,
and my father who does not promise me in the gender crap, but promise
he will organize my brittish passport, and also the promise to get
contacts/ record lable contracts for the production of my music...
hell i been living in the jungle or my life and he was an ex-60's pop
star and knows all the shit... so called i guese, as his stage name
sounded like something from cartoon network...Persly Eggnog... :-/
yup the name makes anyone want to puke..

The good news is I have been invited to a transsexual conference in
Cape Town, where i think i could get some ideas, help, and as well
return help and ideas, since more brains is better than one..Topics
about government, acceptance, employment and such will be discussed,
and i will post some news, the person who organising it is Liesel
from www.genderdynamix.co.za (hope i spelt URL right)

At the moment i have been going around time marketing myself...
saying i can do this, can do that etc, because i am desperate and
dont have money to get newspapers to reply to adverts, and in the
past where i did reply i got lame responces, or no responces, well
then if the responces were positive... i just get as far as the
interview... even after flying through the aptitude tests. Its the
dreaded interview .... the nightmare of applying for work, often i
picture the interviewer as a demon from hell when i get rejected


I have done a new artwork piece which was done two weeks ago, and had
no money to upload the thing, its a portrait of someone from
www.myspace.com whose name is "poison in a bottle" or something like
that, one of Pandora's freinds.. and i hope i have the money to
message her its there... if i dcant find her because of her unsual
user name, i just message Pandora to send her the message... the two
sometimes costume up together...and they live in same city..
talking about myspace.com... is that page of Dana International ,
realy her's ? or its just a fan support page... dont know... dont
care  as long she has her face there, but i would like if it was
her's.

I am currently working on Jose's work.. a self portrait in elf form
as payment for freindship and the deviantart subscription he gave
me... was almost finnished with scene, and a moth flew into my RAM
chips causing havoc.. as well as a power failure occured at the time
which screwwed my hard drive... when i went in the kitchen to make a
milky "chocolate milk"  the power went on, and found the bad news, ..
I eventualy fixed the PC.. and have blisters on my fingers trying to
put DDRAMS back in after i removed the powder remains of the moth...
and also my hard drive was spiked and had to repair that as well,
fortunately no data was lost just the paging file and one of the
bootup .sys files...makes me sick about the job... i did not get and
what i know about PCs so far... and its such a simple job..anyway...
thats a good example of gender discrimination and affirmative action
for you where my parents are not included.
its not may parents i am batteling with, its the town and country.

After that i will be doing a portrait of a TS woman in south africa
which i will charge her R200 for it... which would help me a bit...no
elfy fairy stuff.. she wants to be human... hope she gives me good
photos to work with which would be an excelent human resource.

So alot of shit is happening and I apologise, so i just
emailed/posted, dribbled and sribbled to tell you i am sort of
arround and have not dissapeared off the face of the planet yet...and
kind of stuck, and some help would help, weather it would be love,
acceptance, kindness and jenerousity, even employment, i am realy
desparate... yup i know people dont want to know anyone when they are
down and out, only when they are loaded and up "in".

Lotsa love
Danielle
thank you to those who  posted me messages :-)
((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))
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The elvin evening meal

This graphic is a portrait of poison in a bottle :
She is the elf with the red scales on her skin.. I battled with her
face, since V3 did not provide enouph morph channels for editing the
face, to get full facial features, so i cheated a little and did what
i could, and photo-shoped her face as a 50% visible layer over the
final render... hence the .jpg artifact still visible, however, the
image size is larger than my usual works which she can count on as
repayment for my cheating on the face,lol...

All the elves and faires were rendered to completion with no
postwork, some post wark hd been done on the dribble of the two
kissing elves and some of the slime.
The slim is actualy dripping off the roof of the structure they are
in onto the elves.
The production of this slime is from the fruit that grows in the
plant creepers, and some have it in there bowls. Its a fruit the
elves love. It tastes like strawberries and cream which have been
bleneded and mixed together. Elves love there sweet things, and often
enjoy feeding each other rather than themselves and also lick and eat
food off there bodies which had dropped on them.they also drink milk
from each other as well, but this is not depicted in the image since
it would make it appear adult. They are very loving towards each
other, and always laugh , giggle and play, kiss and hug, which often
lacks in human society, very sad... and humans often hate, kill,
murder and rape, neglect , dispise... very little love exisits, and
such effection is not allowed.

This scene is taken in the elvin ship's biosphere near one of the
corners where the ship's engine's plasma tubes pulsate with light,
and produce heat around the surrounding water which creates steam and
mist for the biosphere.
The Twi-elves and tailed elves have long tounges, and have tiny
mouths, or oral cavaties on the tips of there toungues, this normaly
is used when they bite into hard shell fruit, and penetrate and feed
on the soft fruity insides..., and often use them as for touching as
well as tasting..
There tailes are sensitive as well, since like all creatures with
tails, part of there spinal column is in there..and tailed elves love
to have there tails stroked or held. They often use the tail somtimes
as a third arm. for example, if a tailed elf had to use a standard PC
it would use the keyboard with her hands, but move the mouse with her
tail, and possible shoot her toungue out to press function keys..
There are faires ther too, here they like to lick off the remains of
fruit off the elves, and also tickle and play with the elves... and
chat as well... but have higher sqeaky pitched voices...and some when
flying around sound like flapping birds or large insects.
There is not much of a story to this artwork, since most of it is
described in the image, and what the elves are talking about to each
other realy is not that important, its just there daily gossip of
jokes and giggles, and love praises.
The species/races of elves in the image:
1 Twi-Elf, the green elf with the head tails and abdomen tail
2) Dark Elves  "Zanaria" getting fed... and her freind, kissing on
right
3) 1 Goth elf, the one kissing the other dark elf
4) 1 Tailed elf, the greyish green elf...
5) 1 Arthro-Elf the elf with the antennae
6) 1 Scaled elf... she is a cross between a Tree elf and a tailed
elf, but has no tail.

Tailed elves have the most natural splended skin colours and patches..
The other elves often tatoo themselves according to race/species

Dana will be live at gay pride Gran Canaria ( Canary Islands Spain
)May 12th more info here ;-  http://www.gaymengc.com/blog/?p=919

The link:

http://www.musicaneto.com/disk_details.asp?disk_id=11999

Nick

Hey All!

I finally put up my Dana International performing at
the Beacon Theater on YouTube.com. Enjoy that and my
other video stuff.

My YouTube link is:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=nicksatyr2k

Nick M.

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I finally put up my Dana International performing at
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hey does any one knw wat alblum ad sof hazman
i love it its a gr8 song
thanks

Shalom ((hugs)) Unfortunate Update  (danielle@... no
longer exists)

Shalom All I just let you know that the email address of
danielle@... no longer exists, this was one of the
problems I discovered today.

                                      ===============
In short please email me at zanaloveselfies@... (now primary)
and zanainternational@... (now secondary)
                                     *****************

Today was a hectic day for me, first of all  I went for an
appointment for a job application, and on the way to Richards Bay,
spending half and hour behind an abnormal construction vehicle, and
managed to speed up and over take it, I had a blow out on the front
right tire and almost had an accident and ended in hospital,
fortunately my reflexes were fast enouph to dodge the oncoming cars
and construction vehicle which never slowed down and almost went into
me, very well "thanks to computer gaming".
Then i tried to contact my father to swap vehicles and my mum to re-
set appointment time, and I managed to get there. There was a
problem, I had to go on the Internet to get the full subject names
for my subjects on my academic record, and print it out to the human
resources, Going to the Internet went o.k at first, went onmline
printed it out , but printer was in another location, so i did not
know how it would print out. I also wanted to send email, to the
people I promised including my friend Sandra, I could not log into my
justincase.co.za account which had been given to me by Enya last
year, and it was the best present Enya gave me. I had not been online
for an estimate of 2 weeks, as later in the evening when i enquired
and wondered if she was o.k and what the error was, she said she
closed all justincase emails and her site 1 and a half weeks ago, so
I was unaware of the changes... I thaught i was loosing my mind...
and maybe my hands were typing on there own...anyway... Then i
recieved a call from my father asking where I was, which delayed my
time + i recieved a call from overseas that they have been trying to
send me an email, and its just bouncing back at them, and i told them
I am batteling to log in and i will phone Enya about it in the
evening and get it sorted out.

I also  peeped  at the myspace.com messages as well, since they had
been trying to mail me privately as well ( my user name on
myspace.com is zanainternational) and did not have time to reply
them, including the one who is waiting for there Elf computer graphic
portrait, complaining about bouncing emails...

I gave up and went to the counter after I had been online for 15
minutes and ask to pay for the internet use + printed thing/document,
it was R16 , i was shocked but paid and quickly ran to the car, as i
sat in the car I saw the page was not printed out properly as UNISA
website was built using frames, (which i realise what to add now when
building a website with frames to make it printer freindly, just
needs a small javascript command) I went back loaded the page
seprately out of the frames and printed it, which took less than a
minute, since the UNISA site was still in cache, I was charged R13
for that... i refused to pay that amout and demanded less since i was
less than a minute and should pay for the paper only, we argued where
i could have walked out , but paid him R6 + a lecture on providing
service and how wrong it is for customer robbery. Then when i got
back to the car black young men, who supposed to be car gaurds came
up to me and demanded money,they gathered around me like gangs would
do, i was realy steaming and angry... I told them I had no money and
it all went on the internet cafe to print out my accademic record,
and they must go beg out that shop for money since thats where it all
went, and left.. went back to the human resources of the job
application with the printout, and everything went fine finaly...
As i went out of the building there was a truck parhed there, I did
not know there was anyone in it, and the doors at the back were
closed, as I walked round the back, someone inside slamed the doors
open and one of the doors smashed me on the head, and was bleeding,
ad felt very dizzy with a head ache, I managed to walk to the car and
sit for a while to recover...
Then I drove to the gate of the institution(the place where i applied
for job as IT technitian), and was almost near the gate, that same
truck overtook me, almost crashing into the car...

Finaly i left and headed back to Eshowe... the trafic was unreal and
arrived alive... having arguements etc at home till 7pm when I phoned
Enya to find out about my email account if she was having the same
problems, but she gave me the dissapointing news, she closed site and
its services(www.justincase.co.za)... which means my email account is
gone as well as the waiting emails... maybe they still there but i
cant log in to get them, i dont know... I was very upset about her
closing her site and all because of people not apreciating what she
had done, I know very well that feeling, as it happned to me 100s of
times, and I was also upset that UNISA(My University) and many
websites, dana mailing lists , forums and things I have registered to
this email account. So I decided to go online to to the websites and
that at the Internet cafe (the more affordable one) , but all the
computers are dead.. like real dead.. with a bit of power.. so its
most probably motherboard/CPU and RAM stuffed... and wanted to post
this email as well, and the promised email, I am realy stuck, and
this last few months with very little internet access, the
danielle@... I fully relied on for communication with
Lecturers, and very close elf souled freinds who are just sensitive
as me... are probabably ending up in a frantic tiz like me, as for
example the call i got from overseas....  since Enya said she had a
added a message to the bounce back which i dont know what it said,
probably her feelings, which those sensitive freinds of mine think
its me... fortunately that one more or less knows whats happned, but
the others cannot afford to phone me, and I cannot afford to phone
them all, only if i do phone them its normaly one per month
basis...on callmore time at a short time period. since my parents pay
the bill, and i feel its fair since they dont want me to have
internet.
anyway...
Thats the story, and its 100% true, sounds like a drama movie...so
please resend your recent emails which i have not replied yet to
zanaloveselfies@....
I dont know what i will do with myspace.com, since that would not
reset, my UNISA i would have to ask them to change it telephonically
since it does not reset, and the one dana international mailing list
does not reset as well... Deviantart fortunately resets, as well as
the forums and such.

Please those moderators/admisnistrators of the phorums, mailing lists
etc and such please help and reset my email from
danielle@... to zanaloveselfies@... or
zanainternational@... which works best with your mailing
system, since i do not have enouph money to re-set them all.
preferbly zanaloveselfies one since it gets spammed less as
zanainternational one i had since 1998, and I easily miss improtant
emails stuck inbetween the spam.

And this little message below is to Enya...
Enya , I am very sorry that you had to come to this, and did not
think your actions clearly or even warn people in a month in advance
about the changes, I can understand your feelings, as i get shit from
people alot..
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) (here is
an example --> click on recent photo i submitted to my art gallery at
www.zananeichan.deviantart.com and look at the one comment, this user
sent me worse privately ). I have apreciated the email you gave me,
and accepted it as a gift, and it was the best thing you gave me
under the past misfortunate happenings and bad luck, I had fully
relied upon it for almost all my online activities, I let you know i
apreciated your TS site and the provided email account, I am sorry i
could not visit it often since my internet access was very limited,
and also I wanted to keep distant for some reasons, since of
misunderstandings we were ending up hurting each other, and keep
distant until I had a job and my life improving.
I do hope you recover from these feelings of being upset and hurt
from others soon.

Lotsa love
Danielle
((^_^))
(but what a day, at least i accomplished the mission, but i now have
to wait to hear if i have got the job or not..)

hey i set up a dana page on  bebo
check it out
www.ilovedanasherocks.bebo.com

roisin

shalom dana
i just want 2 say i think ur amazing, pretty and talented.
i love ur music
i especially love ur cover of stevie wonders free
i remeber when u performed it at the eurovision it was out of this world
u looked like a angel.

keep it going girl ur da bomd
  best wishes roisin kenny ( dublin )

Kiss Your Money Bye Bye Remix
To download remix go here:
http://www.geocities.com/zanainternational/index2.html

or right click this link and save target:
http://www.geocities.com/zanainternational/KYMBB.mp3

scroll down to the bottom of the page under all the text and
pictures, right click the link , and select "save target as" and
download...
Its in big green font... at bottom of the page...

If you do not get this page but a yahoo geocities page saying the
data transfere/bandwidth is used up, try again after 60 minutes.

if you still have a problem email: zanaloveselfies@... with
heading "Dana Remix"

I hope you enjoy it , I made it for you with lotsa love

Danielle/Zana
((^_^))

Shalom Dana/Sharon
Happy birthday and hope this 2007 year will be a lovely year..
sorry i cannot send you anything as i dont know how to send or where
to send so you can get something.
But i send you my heart , fanship love and all...
keep well
Lotsa love
Zana/Danielle
((^_^))

Shalom saorry i did not come sooner to be online here to say hello,
as I have a suprise for you all, some in other places know of me
building this, Its a Danba International Theme for windows XP .. to
download it please click
here:http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/47410882
If link is broken you can accss it from my art gallery at
www.zananeichan.deviantart.com
I am sorry If the visual style may not be in Dana's Favourite
Colours, since no one would give them to me, and made use of
existing colours, but 4 other coloured themes remain, if you want to
edit it to your favourite colour you can do so by downloading style
builder or resedit from www.tgtsoft.com

I hope you all fine
Love
Danielle
((^_^))
Dana International 2
Built on Danielle's Zana Elf's Windows PE(windows pointed ears) GUI
system:
( hosted like the Dana theme at deviantart at [link] )


---->(Second Release Update)<-------- yipeee

(fixed small minor problems)
-> Updated GUI elements
-> Created Basic shell on Apple Mac shell
-> Made new Logon
-> Made Boot screen
-> Modernized Aquasized Task Bar/System tray
-> Made more pleasing tasty button

Shalom
welcom to the group:-)
maybe you can tell us what you love of Dana...she is so silent lately.... npo
news etc ...
Love
Danielle

Quoting naomi <sexyfemale31@...>:

> I am new in this Group and i hope we have a lot of Fun.Naomi
>
>