wow go figure, wikipedia. i can't believe i didn't look there. this
is *really* helpful. oh my god. this is insane.

--- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Page-Echols" <v8media@...> wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG
>
> Don't know how helpful that would be to anyone but a computer science
> major. All sorts of formulas. Something on there could give you some
> things to look for in the jpg files when you are editing though.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, thisoneisforstuff
> <thisoneisforstuff@...> wrote:
> > i will try pico and let you know how that works out. i just figured
> > out that textedit _will_ work for the "wordpad glitches" but you have
> > to manually change the format to rich text, it will not do it
> > automatically. i was just opening it in textedit and then saving it,
> > so that's why it wasn't working. i'm glad i got to try that method
> > but i'm much more interested in the hex editing.
> >
> > i noticed pretty quickly that the beginning of the files didn't like
> > to be messed with. i started using raw formats with ps that don't
> > have headers so that's one way around that, but since they can only be
> > used with ps it's kind of lame.
> >
> > do you think that there is any sort of jpeg manual or anything like
> > that where we can learn how they are made, etc.? i want to get this
> > shit down to a science.
> >
> > --- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, Jake Elliott <jake@> wrote:
> >>
> >> hi stuff!
> >>
> >> it is mostly trial and error but here are some tips:
> >> - on osx, try using pico in the terminal to edit the images
> >> - avoid edits to the very top of the file as can break the image
> >> header and prevent the image from displaying
> >> - try cutting a large chunk of the file from the middle to the
end and
> >> vice versa
> >> - compressed formats like jpg are less predictable and therefore more
> >> fun
> >>
> >> rock,
> >> jake
> >>
> >> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:03 PM, "thisoneisforstuff"
> > <thisoneisforstuff@
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > i have been mucking around with this databending stuff all day,
trying
> >> > to glitch up different image formats: jpeg, raw, bmp, tif. the most
> >> > i ever glitch them is like a few lines. i am on osx, so i can't
just
> >> > open up wordpad to make glitches (at least i don't think i can). i
> >> > have been using a hex editor, and i'm just wondering if there is a
> >> > science to this or if there are any tips out there, or if it is all
> >> > just trial and error with no real methodology?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
>