i have been mucking around with this databending stuff all day, trying

to glitch up different image formats:  jpeg, raw, bmp, tif.  the most

i ever glitch them is like a few lines.  i am on osx, so i can't just

open up wordpad to make glitches (at least i don't think i can).  i

have been using a hex editor, and i'm just wondering if there is a

science to this or if there are any tips out there, or if it is all

just trial and error with no real methodology?

hi stuff!



it is mostly trial and error but here are some tips:

- on osx, try using pico in the terminal to edit the images

- avoid edits to the very top of the file as can break the image

header and prevent the image from displaying

- try cutting a large chunk of the file from the middle to the end and

vice versa

- compressed formats like jpg are less predictable and therefore more

fun



rock,

jake



On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:03 PM, "thisoneisforstuff" <thisoneisforstuff@...

  > wrote:



> i have been mucking around with this databending stuff all day, trying

> to glitch up different image formats: jpeg, raw, bmp, tif. the most

> i ever glitch them is like a few lines. i am on osx, so i can't just

> open up wordpad to make glitches (at least i don't think i can). i

> have been using a hex editor, and i'm just wondering if there is a

> science to this or if there are any tips out there, or if it is all

> just trial and error with no real methodology?

>

>





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i will try pico and let you know how that works out.  i just figured

out that textedit _will_ work for the "wordpad glitches" but you have

to manually change the format to rich text, it will not do it

automatically.  i was just opening it in textedit and then saving it,

so that's why it wasn't working.  i'm glad i got to try that method

but i'm much more interested in the hex editing.



i noticed pretty quickly that the beginning of the files didn't like

to be messed with.  i started using raw formats with ps that don't

have headers so that's one way around that, but since they can only be

used with ps it's kind of lame.



do you think that there is any sort of jpeg manual or anything like

that where we can learn how they are made, etc.?  i want to get this

shit down to a science.



--- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, Jake Elliott <jake@...> wrote:

>

> hi stuff!

>

> it is mostly trial and error but here are some tips:

> - on osx, try using pico in the terminal to edit the images

> - avoid edits to the very top of the file as can break the image

> header and prevent the image from displaying

> - try cutting a large chunk of the file from the middle to the end and

> vice versa

> - compressed formats like jpg are less predictable and therefore more

> fun

>

> rock,

> jake

>

> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:03 PM, "thisoneisforstuff"

<thisoneisforstuff@...

>  > wrote:

>

> > i have been mucking around with this databending stuff all day, trying

> > to glitch up different image formats: jpeg, raw, bmp, tif. the most

> > i ever glitch them is like a few lines. i am on osx, so i can't just

> > open up wordpad to make glitches (at least i don't think i can). i

> > have been using a hex editor, and i'm just wondering if there is a

> > science to this or if there are any tips out there, or if it is all

> > just trial and error with no real methodology?

> >

> >

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG



Don't know how helpful that would be to anyone but a computer science

major.  All sorts of formulas.  Something on there could give you some

things to look for in the jpg files when you are editing though.



Ian







On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, thisoneisforstuff

<thisoneisforstuff@...> wrote:

> i will try pico and let you know how that works out. i just figured

> out that textedit _will_ work for the "wordpad glitches" but you have

> to manually change the format to rich text, it will not do it

> automatically. i was just opening it in textedit and then saving it,

> so that's why it wasn't working. i'm glad i got to try that method

> but i'm much more interested in the hex editing.

>

> i noticed pretty quickly that the beginning of the files didn't like

> to be messed with. i started using raw formats with ps that don't

> have headers so that's one way around that, but since they can only be

> used with ps it's kind of lame.

>

> do you think that there is any sort of jpeg manual or anything like

> that where we can learn how they are made, etc.? i want to get this

> shit down to a science.

>

> --- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, Jake Elliott <jake@...> wrote:

>>

>> hi stuff!

>>

>> it is mostly trial and error but here are some tips:

>> - on osx, try using pico in the terminal to edit the images

>> - avoid edits to the very top of the file as can break the image

>> header and prevent the image from displaying

>> - try cutting a large chunk of the file from the middle to the end and

>> vice versa

>> - compressed formats like jpg are less predictable and therefore more

>> fun

>>

>> rock,

>> jake

>>

>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:03 PM, "thisoneisforstuff"

> <thisoneisforstuff@...

>> > wrote:

>>

>> > i have been mucking around with this databending stuff all day, trying

>> > to glitch up different image formats: jpeg, raw, bmp, tif. the most

>> > i ever glitch them is like a few lines. i am on osx, so i can't just

>> > open up wordpad to make glitches (at least i don't think i can). i

>> > have been using a hex editor, and i'm just wondering if there is a

>> > science to this or if there are any tips out there, or if it is all

>> > just trial and error with no real methodology?

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>

>

>

wow go figure, wikipedia.  i can't believe i didn't look there.  this

is *really* helpful.  oh my god.  this is insane.



--- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Page-Echols" <v8media@...> wrote:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG

>

> Don't know how helpful that would be to anyone but a computer science

> major.  All sorts of formulas.  Something on there could give you some

> things to look for in the jpg files when you are editing though.

>

> Ian

>

>

>

> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, thisoneisforstuff

> <thisoneisforstuff@...> wrote:

> > i will try pico and let you know how that works out. i just figured

> > out that textedit _will_ work for the "wordpad glitches" but you have

> > to manually change the format to rich text, it will not do it

> > automatically. i was just opening it in textedit and then saving it,

> > so that's why it wasn't working. i'm glad i got to try that method

> > but i'm much more interested in the hex editing.

> >

> > i noticed pretty quickly that the beginning of the files didn't like

> > to be messed with. i started using raw formats with ps that don't

> > have headers so that's one way around that, but since they can only be

> > used with ps it's kind of lame.

> >

> > do you think that there is any sort of jpeg manual or anything like

> > that where we can learn how they are made, etc.? i want to get this

> > shit down to a science.

> >

> > --- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, Jake Elliott <jake@> wrote:

> >>

> >> hi stuff!

> >>

> >> it is mostly trial and error but here are some tips:

> >> - on osx, try using pico in the terminal to edit the images

> >> - avoid edits to the very top of the file as can break the image

> >> header and prevent the image from displaying

> >> - try cutting a large chunk of the file from the middle to the

end and

> >> vice versa

> >> - compressed formats like jpg are less predictable and therefore more

> >> fun

> >>

> >> rock,

> >> jake

> >>

> >> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:03 PM, "thisoneisforstuff"

> > <thisoneisforstuff@

> >> > wrote:

> >>

> >> > i have been mucking around with this databending stuff all day,

trying

> >> > to glitch up different image formats: jpeg, raw, bmp, tif. the most

> >> > i ever glitch them is like a few lines. i am on osx, so i can't

just

> >> > open up wordpad to make glitches (at least i don't think i can). i

> >> > have been using a hex editor, and i'm just wondering if there is a

> >> > science to this or if there are any tips out there, or if it is all

> >> > just trial and error with no real methodology?

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >>

> >

> >

>

hi all, nothing much to say except its nice to see some activity on this group

again :)

i accidentally poured a beer on my computer during a concert last week and the

screen went all psychedelic...kinda sad, it went back to normal now



   ----- Original Message -----

   From: thisoneisforstuff

   To: databenders@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:25 PM

   Subject: [databenders] Re: hey





   i will try pico and let you know how that works out. i just figured

   out that textedit _will_ work for the "wordpad glitches" but you have

   to manually change the format to rich text, it will not do it

   automatically. i was just opening it in textedit and then saving it,

   so that's why it wasn't working. i'm glad i got to try that method

   but i'm much more interested in the hex editing.



   i noticed pretty quickly that the beginning of the files didn't like

   to be messed with. i started using raw formats with ps that don't

   have headers so that's one way around that, but since they can only be

   used with ps it's kind of lame.



   do you think that there is any sort of jpeg manual or anything like

   that where we can learn how they are made, etc.? i want to get this

   shit down to a science.



   --- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, Jake Elliott <jake@...> wrote:

   >

   > hi stuff!

   >

   > it is mostly trial and error but here are some tips:

   > - on osx, try using pico in the terminal to edit the images

   > - avoid edits to the very top of the file as can break the image

   > header and prevent the image from displaying

   > - try cutting a large chunk of the file from the middle to the end and

   > vice versa

   > - compressed formats like jpg are less predictable and therefore more

   > fun

   >

   > rock,

   > jake

   >

   > On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:03 PM, "thisoneisforstuff"

   <thisoneisforstuff@...

   > > wrote:

   >

   > > i have been mucking around with this databending stuff all day, trying

   > > to glitch up different image formats: jpeg, raw, bmp, tif. the most

   > > i ever glitch them is like a few lines. i am on osx, so i can't just

   > > open up wordpad to make glitches (at least i don't think i can). i

   > > have been using a hex editor, and i'm just wondering if there is a

   > > science to this or if there are any tips out there, or if it is all

   > > just trial and error with no real methodology?

   > >

   > >

   >

   >

   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   >











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cool so basically to avoid the header you press ctrl-f "FF DA".  keep

doing that until you run out of "FF DA"'s.  and you have passed over

the header.



--- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, "evil moisture" <evilmoisture@...>

wrote:

>

> hi all, nothing much to say except its nice to see some activity on

this group again :)

> i accidentally poured a beer on my computer during a concert last

week and the screen went all psychedelic...kinda sad, it went back to

normal now

>

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: thisoneisforstuff

>   To: databenders@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:25 PM

>   Subject: [databenders] Re: hey

>

>

>   i will try pico and let you know how that works out. i just figured

>   out that textedit _will_ work for the "wordpad glitches" but you have

>   to manually change the format to rich text, it will not do it

>   automatically. i was just opening it in textedit and then saving it,

>   so that's why it wasn't working. i'm glad i got to try that method

>   but i'm much more interested in the hex editing.

>

>   i noticed pretty quickly that the beginning of the files didn't like

>   to be messed with. i started using raw formats with ps that don't

>   have headers so that's one way around that, but since they can only be

>   used with ps it's kind of lame.

>

>   do you think that there is any sort of jpeg manual or anything like

>   that where we can learn how they are made, etc.? i want to get this

>   shit down to a science.

>

>   --- In databenders@yahoogroups.com, Jake Elliott <jake@> wrote:

>   >

>   > hi stuff!

>   >

>   > it is mostly trial and error but here are some tips:

>   > - on osx, try using pico in the terminal to edit the images

>   > - avoid edits to the very top of the file as can break the image

>   > header and prevent the image from displaying

>   > - try cutting a large chunk of the file from the middle to the

end and

>   > vice versa

>   > - compressed formats like jpg are less predictable and therefore

more

>   > fun

>   >

>   > rock,

>   > jake

>   >

>   > On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:03 PM, "thisoneisforstuff"

>   <thisoneisforstuff@

>   > > wrote:

>   >

>   > > i have been mucking around with this databending stuff all

day, trying

>   > > to glitch up different image formats: jpeg, raw, bmp, tif. the

most

>   > > i ever glitch them is like a few lines. i am on osx, so i

can't just

>   > > open up wordpad to make glitches (at least i don't think i can). i

>   > > have been using a hex editor, and i'm just wondering if there is a

>   > > science to this or if there are any tips out there, or if it

is all

>   > > just trial and error with no real methodology?

>   > >

>   > >

>   >

>   >

>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   >

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>