haha...yea thass what i'm talkin about...
just wanted to be nice about it

pv

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To: <descent@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [descent] RE: Electro vs Guitar


> nah.   it's subpar noise from a former shining light.
> and the vocals and lyrics are lame, also.
>
> >From: "come on pilgrim" <tishbite@...>
> >Reply-To: descent@...
> >To: <descent@...>
> >Subject: [descent] RE: Electro vs Guitar
> >Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:11:14 -0500
> >
> >for everyone who's interested in shimmering stellar guitar work, try
> >this band: violet indiana.
> >
> >more on www.bellaunion.com, with samples.  simply stunning stuff.

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please... I am not making any money of this...

On Monday, Mar 17, 2003, at 17:52 US/Pacific, 7th seal wrote:

> very sad.....
> are we here for showing our love for the cure?
> or just for earning some money?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Crocker" <chriscrocker@...>
> To: <descent@...>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:17 AM
> Subject: [descent] Cure Wish Tour Miami '92 Video For Sale
>
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Audience recording.  Pretty good view and great sound.  I bought this
>> several years ago.  Never watched it really and just burned it onto
>> DVD-R.  I paid $25 for it.  So if somebody wants it for what I paid
>> for
>> it let me know.  I have several others that I will be posting soon
>> too.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Chris
>
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Division of Laura Lee is pretty good too, and so are the Walkmen.


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From: "Rachel Thern" <kiravae@...>
To: <descent@...>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: [descent] Electro vs Guitar - Interpol


> --- Christian Carrillo
> <Christian.Carrillo@...> wrote:
>
> > Then there is the Hives and The Strokes and this
> > band PDA, which are bands that I like, but I think
> > it's because they are reminiscent of early Cure
> > and/or early Joy Division...
>
> When you say PDA do you mean perhaps the band
> Interpol, that has a song named PDA?  They get
> compaired to Joy Division but they're not derivative,
> they are excellent.  Their CD was one of the best new
> things in a while.  If anyone knows any other new
> bands that have that sort of sound, please tell me.
> Rachel
>
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>
> ---------------------------------
> Rachel Thern
> kiravae@...
> rachel@...
> http://rachel.thern.org
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very sad.....
are we here for showing our love for the cure?
or just for earning some money?

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To: <descent@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:17 AM
Subject: [descent] Cure Wish Tour Miami '92 Video For Sale


> Hi all:
>
> Audience recording.  Pretty good view and great sound.  I bought this
> several years ago.  Never watched it really and just burned it onto
> DVD-R.  I paid $25 for it.  So if somebody wants it for what I paid for
> it let me know.  I have several others that I will be posting soon too.
> Thanks.
>
> Chris

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Hi all:

Audience recording.  Pretty good view and great sound.  I bought this
several years ago.  Never watched it really and just burned it onto
DVD-R.  I paid $25 for it.  So if somebody wants it for what I paid for
it let me know.  I have several others that I will be posting soon too.
Thanks.

Chris

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nah.   it's subpar noise from a former shining light.
and the vocals and lyrics are lame, also.

>From: "come on pilgrim" <tishbite@...>
>Reply-To: descent@...
>To: <descent@...>
>Subject: [descent] RE: Electro vs Guitar
>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:11:14 -0500
>
>for everyone who's interested in shimmering stellar guitar work, try
>this band: violet indiana.
>
>more on www.bellaunion.com, with samples.  simply stunning stuff.

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I ve been trying to listen to that track. when i do, i'll tell.
But now I just wanted to recommend another song. 'Kitty' from
'Boom Boom Kid'. I thought that some cure fans would like this strange
artist.

Please listen to it and ask me if you want to listen some more material from
the same artist, because it's hard to find and he have been in a band called
Fun People, but their underground even here (Argentina), so they must be
completeley unknown in the commercial circuit out there.

It's not depresive at all (so the ones that like the terribly sad side of
the cure maybe won't like it) but it's kind of punkish pop with some
electronic stuff, two guitars and a fabuluos voice that dares to try some
smith's like miaows and doesn't do it badly. Maybe it has some reminiscence
to wish but no so cure and more punk.

I Recommend this tracks: 'kitty', 'la vida está bien si no te rindes',
'tomar helado', 'julio', 'insulina'. The band have just released the first
cd with this name after four cds as fun people.

please listen to it and tell me your comments

Pd: you have to have kazaa to find any song.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "come on pilgrim" <tishbite@...>
> for everyone who's interested in shimmering stellar guitar work, try
> this band: violet indiana.

saw them here last year.... guthrie guitar with crappy vocals. not
very exciting.... though he did have a luscious gretsch guitar...
i'll just stick to my CT catalog...

pv

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for everyone who's interested in shimmering stellar guitar work, try
this band: violet indiana.

more on www.bellaunion.com, with samples.  simply stunning stuff.

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Interpol... okay, thanks for the correction. The only thing I've heard from them
is that one jam, and I would say it kicks ass, but it does sound a lot like Joy
Division... Personal Opinion, and I do love me the Joy Division...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Thern [mailto:kiravae@...]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 2:48 PM
To: descent@...
Subject: RE: [descent] Electro vs Guitar - Interpol


--- Christian Carrillo
<Christian.Carrillo@...> wrote:

> Then there is the Hives and The Strokes and this
> band PDA, which are bands that I like, but I think
> it's because they are reminiscent of early Cure
> and/or early Joy Division...

When you say PDA do you mean perhaps the band
Interpol, that has a song named PDA?  They get
compaired to Joy Division but they're not derivative,
they are excellent.  Their CD was one of the best new
things in a while.  If anyone knows any other new
bands that have that sort of sound, please tell me.
Rachel

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rachel@...
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For any of you who are in or around the Toronto area, I wanted to inform you
that there is a Cure night happening next Saturday,the 22nd.
If you want to see more about it go here and scroll down a bit:
http://www.djlazarus.com/

Also let me know if you're going, I'd love to meet you.
-cherrytreegirl

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--- Christian Carrillo
<Christian.Carrillo@...> wrote:

> Then there is the Hives and The Strokes and this
> band PDA, which are bands that I like, but I think
> it's because they are reminiscent of early Cure
> and/or early Joy Division...

When you say PDA do you mean perhaps the band
Interpol, that has a song named PDA?  They get
compaired to Joy Division but they're not derivative,
they are excellent.  Their CD was one of the best new
things in a while.  If anyone knows any other new
bands that have that sort of sound, please tell me.
Rachel

=====

---------------------------------
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kiravae@...
rachel@...
http://rachel.thern.org
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I personally don't think that indie and/or rock guitar is dead, I just don't
think anyone has done anything good with it... most bands now a days are just
carbon copies of other carbon copies, it creates a frustrating circular
reference that ends up in one freaking long song played on the radio with
commercial breaks in between...
Then there is the Hives and The Strokes and this band PDA, which are bands that
I like, but I think it's because they are reminiscent of early Cure and/or early
Joy Division...
I got problems... sorry...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Klapwijk [mailto:jasperk@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:40 PM
To: descent@...
Subject: Re: [descent] Electro vs Guitar


Michelle,

You are ever so right. Pushing buttons on stage does not make for a nice
concert. And yet, rock is over. Still, we don't expect the band to do the
mainstream thing (although disco still has its moments).

Hmm, dilemma. But well, why not have the best of two worlds? A few
suggestions:

A full guitar rock album with a bonus cd containing mixed electronic
versions, preferrably by Paul Oakenfold, but others are welcome too (maybe
too much to ask for after the acoustic bonus with GH...)

A combined album containing, say, five classic rock tracks on the one hand,
and some new electronic songs on the other. Hasn't been done yet, at least
not by the Cure. Hard to listen the disc in full, I expect.

A thematic album about the end of independent rock music, based on Iain
Banks' novel Espedair Street, containing the very best classic Cure songs,
as a coda to the Trilogy.

A crossover between the classic guitar based rock song and the electronic
pop song. Has been done (by The Cure as well), but why not make things
better? Eleven or twelve of those on a brand new album, never heard of...

The first ambient album by the Cure. The classic, spheric guitar ballads
brought back to their essence in electronic stillness. Highly valued among
the hip and beautiful in the lounge, which is where the new album wants to
be (in vinyl on the dj's turntable, I fear). During Concerts, these songs
will be played from the computer, with the best video art.

Anyone? Cheers,

Jazz


> I know the band aren't entirely electronic
> technophobes and have done some great electronic
> stuff.  Only problem with this is that they are a
> band: what is everyone going to do when they play
> live, while one person pushes a button, and Robert
> sings?
>
> I have seen many performances like this usually
> involving one or two musicians. With a drummer, two
> guitarists, and a bass player I think Cure live shows
> would certainly be less interesting if reduced to
> button pushing.
>
> Indie rock does seem to have had its day. But I don't
> agree that just because electronic music is popular
> that this is what the band should do. They have always
> been a bit different- that's what has given them such
> a large fanbase at different points in their career.
> As has been mentioned they did a remix album when no
> one else did remix albums. I hope that they can
> continue to be outside the mainstream, and just make
> great music regardless of what is popular at the time.
> Disco was popular in the seventies, but how do we look
> upon it now?
>
> Of course there's nothing wrong with the band
> incorporating electronic stuff into their work as they
> have always done. However, I can't imagine the Cure
> producing an album with not one guitar on it, as well
> as electronically generated melodies/beats.
>
> Michelle

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well, some kind o kid a or something. not bad idea, but I prefer the
completely acoustic depured sound of the b side latest acoustic album...
its so perfect, completely cure. I don't think cure's thing is that kind
of experimentation (that's what I would do in their place), because robert
never was with the 'New' experimental music that keeps following rules as
the commercial one. He just did what the beers and the mood swing told
him... I think that more "inteligent experimentation" could be done, but
sometimes can lose the heartfelt thing. Anyway, a great idea, and I insist
in suggesting you to hear Levinhurst if you didn't yet

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Didn't Robert plan to record a couple of songs just like that... electronically,
I think the only surviving track from that was 'Harold and Joe'. Anyway, during
the Japanese Whispers recording session it was just Robert and Lol, this seems
to be the first time Robert relied heavily on electronic instruments, more of a
need than anything else I suppose... don't really know ware I'm going with this,
thought it might be relevant. Anyway I think that The Cure's best quality and
real genius is the fact that they can do a 'The Walk' or 'Cut' and they always
just sound like... The Cure... NO matter how much people say that they are
changing in order to fit in the main stream or how much people say the opposite,
they always just sound like... well, The Cure.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle Smith [mailto:caterpillargirlau@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:32 PM
To: descent@...
Subject: Re: [descent] Electro vs Guitar


I know the band aren't entirely electronic
technophobes and have done some great electronic
stuff.  Only problem with this is that they are a
band: what is everyone going to do when they play
live, while one person pushes a button, and Robert
sings?

I have seen many performances like this usually
involving one or two musicians. With a drummer, two
guitarists, and a bass player I think Cure live shows
would certainly be less interesting if reduced to
button pushing.

Indie rock does seem to have had its day. But I don't
agree that just because electronic music is popular
that this is what the band should do. They have always
been a bit different- that's what has given them such
a large fanbase at different points in their career.
As has been mentioned they did a remix album when no
one else did remix albums. I hope that they can
continue to be outside the mainstream, and just make
great music regardless of what is popular at the time.
Disco was popular in the seventies, but how do we look
upon it now?

Of course there's nothing wrong with the band
incorporating electronic stuff into their work as they
have always done. However, I can't imagine the Cure
producing an album with not one guitar on it, as well
as electronically generated melodies/beats.

Michelle

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Hello again.  I believe I forgot to mention that the auction ends THIS
saturday, March 15th.  I have the items on offer listed on my website:
www.tenmillionmonkeys.indiegroup.com.  Enjoy.

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Michelle,

You are ever so right. Pushing buttons on stage does not make for a nice
concert. And yet, rock is over. Still, we don't expect the band to do the
mainstream thing (although disco still has its moments).

Hmm, dilemma. But well, why not have the best of two worlds? A few
suggestions:

A full guitar rock album with a bonus cd containing mixed electronic
versions, preferrably by Paul Oakenfold, but others are welcome too (maybe
too much to ask for after the acoustic bonus with GH...)

A combined album containing, say, five classic rock tracks on the one hand,
and some new electronic songs on the other. Hasn't been done yet, at least
not by the Cure. Hard to listen the disc in full, I expect.

A thematic album about the end of independent rock music, based on Iain
Banks' novel Espedair Street, containing the very best classic Cure songs,
as a coda to the Trilogy.

A crossover between the classic guitar based rock song and the electronic
pop song. Has been done (by The Cure as well), but why not make things
better? Eleven or twelve of those on a brand new album, never heard of...

The first ambient album by the Cure. The classic, spheric guitar ballads
brought back to their essence in electronic stillness. Highly valued among
the hip and beautiful in the lounge, which is where the new album wants to
be (in vinyl on the dj's turntable, I fear). During Concerts, these songs
will be played from the computer, with the best video art.

Anyone? Cheers,

Jazz


> I know the band aren't entirely electronic
> technophobes and have done some great electronic
> stuff.  Only problem with this is that they are a
> band: what is everyone going to do when they play
> live, while one person pushes a button, and Robert
> sings?
>
> I have seen many performances like this usually
> involving one or two musicians. With a drummer, two
> guitarists, and a bass player I think Cure live shows
> would certainly be less interesting if reduced to
> button pushing.
>
> Indie rock does seem to have had its day. But I don't
> agree that just because electronic music is popular
> that this is what the band should do. They have always
> been a bit different- that's what has given them such
> a large fanbase at different points in their career.
> As has been mentioned they did a remix album when no
> one else did remix albums. I hope that they can
> continue to be outside the mainstream, and just make
> great music regardless of what is popular at the time.
> Disco was popular in the seventies, but how do we look
> upon it now?
>
> Of course there's nothing wrong with the band
> incorporating electronic stuff into their work as they
> have always done. However, I can't imagine the Cure
> producing an album with not one guitar on it, as well
> as electronically generated melodies/beats.
>
> Michelle

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Thanks!

Jessica

On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, C A wrote:

> “Everything under the sun” Cure goods sale!!!
>
> I have tour programs, books, posters, calendars, t-shirt, postcards,
> fanzines and articles from nearly 20 years ago!  I’ve also thrown in a few
> Siouxsie and the Banshees and miscellaneous items as well.
>
> All conditions of the goods are listed and if you need further info or
> descriptions, feel free to e-mail me.  All shipping costs are expected to be
> reimbursed by the buyer, however, if you live in the Los Angeles or London
> areas, we can discuss arrangements to exchange in person.  All reasonable
> bids considered and the deadline is Saturday at 6pm, pacific standard time.
> Enjoy.
>
> CD:
>
> “Pink Pig” tribute to the Cure.  I have two copies in excellent condition.
>
> Vinyl:
>
> Bootleg of 7/15/87 Los Angeles Forum show.  Like cockatoos, The Walk,
> Inbetween days, How beautiful you are, The perfect girl, The snakepit, A
> Forest, Fight, Close to me, Let’s go to bed, A thousand hours, Shiver and
> shake, Hey you, Three Imaginary Boys, Why can’t I be you?.  Tone def
> records.  Black and white pic of Bob on the cover in his Betty Boop shirt.
> Red lip prints on the back.  Good condition.
>
> “Arabian Dream”  good condition.
>
> “Baktabak” “Limited Edition” interview picture disc. #2105 and #2011, both
> in good condition.
>
> The Robert Smith interviews volume one, “Between the forest and the Sea,” by
> baktabak records, 1989.  Good condition, blue vinyl.
>
> The Cure “Brits 91” press conference interview.  Clear vinyl, no record
> company listed, has “Doctor, Doctor, give me the Cure!” inscribed (among
> other things) in tiny lettering on it.  Good condition.
>
> Shirts:
>
> US Prayer Tour Shirt – Bob’s head in blue with eyes closed, streaks of shade
> over his face, w/The Cure written in Pink.  Same pic on the back.  Has been
> washed a few times (because I’ve worn it, silly.) but it’s in good
> condition.  (Large.)
>
> Lullaby shirt from US Prayer Tour.  Washed a few times but in really good
> condition since I rarely wore it.  (large.)
>
> Bob shirt: Shot of Bob during the “Catch” video filming, leaning over a
> balcony, with his hands on his head.  Says “The Cure” and “Kiss Me” is
> written about three times across the top.  Washed a few times but in good
> condition. X-large.
>
> Bob shirt from the Swing Tour.  Bob in red and white polka dot, long sleeved
> shirt, on his knees, grinning.  X-large.  (Good, but washed a few times.)
>
> Dream Tour Australia shirt.  Pyramid black and white shot of the band,
> V-neck, medium, in excellent, pristine condition.  Never worn. (Bought for a
> friend who later pissed me off.)
>
> Old Spin magazine cover from Wish era.  Pyramid with headshots of each band
> member in sepia, Bob w/eyes colored in yellow.  Cure wish font in yellow on
> the back over sepia. (Large, good condition, been washed a few times.)
>
> Bloodflowers tour shirt: Album cover in black and white with “The Cure”
> written in red font across the top and down the side.  V-neck, x-large, says
> “Bloodflowers” on the back in red and “The Cure” through the middle and
> going down in white.  (Excellent condition.)
>
> Tour Programs:
>
> Beach Party tour (US) program, good condition.
>
> Wish tour (US) program x 2, one in good condition, one in excellent (Don’t
> ask me how I ended up with two.) condition.
>
> Dream Tour Program (US and Europe.) Good condition.
>
> Disintegration Tour program (US) good condition.
>
> Swing Tour (US) program, good condition.
>
> Psych Furs “Midnight to Midnight” (US) tour program (good condition) w/Roger
> O’Donnell.
>
> Misc:
>
> Scooter riding clown from the Wild Mood Swings album cover
>
> Videos:
>
> “Play Out”
>
> Books:
>
> “The Cure on Record” by Darren Butler, excellent condition.
>
> “Ten Imaginary Years” good condition.
>
> “The Cure – A Visual Documentary” x 2 , one in good condition, one ok.
> (Don’t ask.)
>
> “The Cure” by Joanne Greene (12 out of the 45 pages are loose, but otherwise
> it’s in good condition.  C’mon, I bought it 14 years ago. I’m getting old….)
>
> “The Cure – Faith” by Dave Bowler and Bryan Day.  (Excellent condition.)
>
> “The making of Disintegration” by Dave Thompson, compact books CD.
>
> Alternative comics #1 (Cure, Pearl Jam, Rem.) Good condition.  Premise of
> story is Bob dies on an airplane and looks back at his life.
>
> Big black book of magazine articles up to 1986.  Has no title, just the
> “Seventeen Seconds” Cure font, black and white cover with Bob, Simon, and
> Lol looking really young and spiffy.  Don’t know how else to describe it
> kids except that I bought it over 10 years ago.  It doesn’t even have a
> publisher listed so go figure.
>
> Stickers:
>
> Band in black and white with “Kiss me” scrawled in the background.
>
> Bob in a black and white top era photo.  Headshot, medium, higher Bob afro,
> “The Cure” written in Head on the door font in red.  Good condition.
>
> Bob – on a beach, arms crossed, smaller Bob afro, white print shirt, blue
> lower cut v-neck sweater, left side shot, looking away from the camera.  The
> Cure written in head on the door font.  Good condition.
>
> Pins:
>
> All of the following are in excellent condition, as it’s kind of hard to
> fuck up a pin, isn’t it?
>
> The Cure – The top album cover artwork.
>
> Bob – square pin, has short, normal looking hair with the usual makeup.
> Blue polo with pink background.
>
> The Cure “Boys don’t cry” single artwork in black and white.
>
> Why can’t I be you? Single cover artwork in black and white.
>
> Lovecats single artwork in black and yellow.
>
> Head on the door cover artwork.
>
> Bob, Lol and Simon cutouts of 17 seconds era photos with the Cure written in
> plain, yellow font.
>
> Bob sitting on a cliff over looking the ocean, petting two brown dogs and
> smiling.
>
> Ghastly ghost figure in day glow coloring, standing in front of a sign that
> says “The cure” in head on the door font.
>
> Head shot of Bob with his head in his hands wearing medium brown eye shadow.
>   Says Robert Smith in red font.
>
> Official Calendars:
> 1992 (Good), 1993 (Good), 1991 Bob calendar (good), 1990 Mostly Bob calendar
> (Good, but has a small bend on a corner of the cover.) 1996 calendar.
> (Excellent and a lot of band participation.  Groovy.)
>
> Tear out poster book from Atlanta Press, mostly of Bob, a few groovy pics of
> the band.  Ok condition.  (By this I mean some of the perforation is
> separating but the pictures are in good condition.)
>
> Posters:
>
> Black and white cartoon type pic of Bob in Betty Boop shirt.  Lips colored
> in red.  The Cure in red font.  (Excellent, pristine condition.)
>
> Black and white Technicolor photo of the band, WMS era w/their eyes painted
> blue in front of a sepia colored, Indian style (with flowers and the like.)
> wallpapered wall.  Bob forward center (as usual) with blue long sleeved
> shirt w/top two buttons open, Perry hiding behind him, Roger on the end in a
> black long sleeved button up shirt, Jason behind Bob w/his shirt unzipped,
> Simon looking pissed off and wearing a white sweater. (Good condition)
>
> Show promo poster from Select magazine.  Typical fold out poster from
> magazine creases.  Good condition.
>
> Bob “Smash Hits” center fold (red w/white polka dot shirt, disintegration
> era shot.  White background, hands folded.)
>
> High era poster from “Indicator” magazine.  Bob, Simon, Port and Boris in
> the clouds with their arms outstretched.  Ok condition.
>
> The posters listed above are in good condition, but the vast majorities
> (which will follow this message) have been either on my wall, stored in a
> closet or both so they’ll be kind of worn.  I figure, rather than chucking
> them straightaway in the bin, that there’s a possibility someone might want
> them…
>
> Crystal Palace 11th Aug show promo poster.  Black and white w/Bob in the
> foreground and band darkened in the background.  Bob in v-neck knit sweater
> with collared shirt.  (A little folded up, as it was up in my closet for a
> while.  Tape marks on the edges, as it was also once on my wall.)
>
> Wish Promo poster- the boys posing on the green Astroturf  hill with the
> wish eye hologram over them and a small pic of the album cover in the right
> hand corner.  (A few tape marks on the back, small tear in the left hand
> corner.  Ok-ish.)
>
> Wish promo poster that I got from a listening party in ’92.  The boys in
> front of an orange and red background, Bob in blue v-neck sweater w/green
> tee, Boris in red jacket w/sunglasses, Porl in brown cardigan with green
> tee, etc, etc.  Different shot from the same photo session that was commonly
> used for wish era interview, hopefully my description does it justice.  (A
> few bends, as it’s been rolled up, with some sticker residue on the back, as
> it was on my wall.)
>
> Big ass collage poster of different Bob moments in olive tint.
>
> - The Bob and Siouxsie pic where he’s got his fist over his mouth and looks
> as if he’s giggling, Sioux’s arm around him.
> - Bob in full on huge Nike, tongue forward shoe craziness thing style that
> he was so fond of in the late ‘80s, on some rocks by the ocean, in a v-neck
> sweater w/a print tee.
> - Bob pointing his finger at his head, like a gun, and winking.
>
> (A little torn at the bottom end, slightly bent, as it’s been rolled up and
> stowed in my closet for a few years, with the usual “been up on my wall”
> tape residue.)
>
> Bob sitting in a chair w/his arms folded, Kiss me era, shorter hairdo, blue
> v-neck sweater w/white polo tee underneath, pinkish lipstick, “Kiss me” Cure
> font.  (Slightly crinkly, the “been up on my wall” tape residue on the
> back.)
>
> Whole band “Head on the door” era poster.  The pic is on page 98 in “Ten
> imaginary years,” but this one has a blue tint.
>
> Bob poster in black and white, sitting on a step, not looking at the camera,
> the only makeup he’s wearing is eyeliner, white polo shirt.  The Cure is
> written at the bottom in white “Head on the Door” font with “Why can’t I be
> you?” written underneath it.
>
> So, any offers?
>
> Postcards:
>
> Bob – His head in, which appears to be, a mirrored box with tons of light in
> the pic.  Red boarder.  Excellent condition.
>
> Bob – Side shot of him in the “grey suit” around 1985, sitting in a chair,
> with his head in his hand.  Blue background.  Good condition.
>
> Color headshot of Bob in a black v-neck shirt.  Good condition.
>
> Band posing in front of “Wish” clouds and sitting on grass like stuff.  Good
> condition.
>
> Bob and company sitting on a grassy hump thingy (Wish promo) Blue sky
> background with white outline of the Wish eye in the foreground.  Wish album
> cover in the right hand corner, good condition.
>
> Bob and company, 1986 era shot.  White blotchy paint over grey brick wall,
> band sitting on sand colored burlap.  From right:  Simon wearing black
> leather, Bob in a white collared shirt with grey sweater vest, Boris in a
> black leather jacket with a white tee shirt, Porl in a white tee, Lol in a
> black denim jacket and a white collared shirt.
>
> Disintegration era shot of the band in the background with a red light on
> them.  Bob in the foreground with a bright light on him, good condition.
>
> Cure Kroq 1992 Wish Long Beach arena show promo sticker.  I have 3 of them
> in excellent condition.
>
> Bob – 1984 Top era pic (Leather pants, white collared shirt, black beaded
> necklace, blue background, sitting in a chair.) with “The Cure – Picture of
> you” written across the top in “head on the door” font.  Excellent
> condition.
>
> Bob in his “never enough” costume in the tiny room with a lamp hanging over
> his head.  (Last scene of the video.)  Excellent condition.
>
> Bob sepia “Lullaby” costume photo.  Side shot of bob sitting in his brown
> vest get up.  (Good condition.)
>
> Bob- “Catch” video pic.  Bob on the balcony with his hands clasped.  Good
> condition.
>
> Bob – “Boys don’t cry” silhouette shot.  I have two, one in good condition
> the other is in ok condition.
>
> The band in a Wish era shot.  From left:  Porl, Perry, Boris, Simon, and
> Bob.  There’s a black umbrella in the shot that’s blown inside out.  Weather
> vane behind Perry.  Excellent condition.
>
> Bob – Disintegration era shot.  Red light doused pic with Bob in a red
> shirt.  Good condition.
>
> Photo of the band in the studio making Disintegration.  (All of them sitting
> in front of the soundboard.  Sent from the Cure news back in 1989.)  Ok
> condition.
>
> Shot of the band after the 1989 MTV video music awards.  Good condition.
>
> Bob – Disintegration era photo of Bob in a blue collared shirt in blue
> light.  Good condition.
>
> Bob in the grey 1985 “band suit” thingy crazy thing he liked to wear back
> then, with a white polo shirt.  Seated against a beige brick wall.  I have 3
> of them and all are in good condition.
>
> Distorted shot of Bob and Lol (lovecats era – pinkish and black.)  Bob’s
> wearing a chain mail style necklace with his arm up over his head.  Good
> condition.
>
> Bob looking at a book (And looking like shit, I might add.) with a cigarette
> in his hand.  Black and white shot and it looks like he’s in a dressing
> room.  Good condition.
>
> Kiss me promo postcard.  Bob’s lips, Bob in front of an Italian looking
> painting, and says “Kiss me x3 double album, cassette, single, compact
> disc.” Good condition.
>
> Bob- yellow back ground, “The kiss me” shirt poster but with just Bob with
> his hands on his hips.  Excellent condition.
>
> Bob – “let’s go to bed”, excellent condition.
>
> The band in “Never Enough” costumes, posing in front of paisley wallpaper.
> Black and white pic in excellent condition.
>
> Bob and Siouxsie.  Black and white pic of Sioux in a devil shirt with Bob
> posed with his hand over his face.
>
> Bob in the grey “suit” in a live shot doing his little dance thingy.  Good
> condition.
>
> Bob in his “lullaby” get up, side view, with black long nails.  Outer
> boarder is Lullaby single cover and in good condition.
>
> Bob – black and white close up in his 1985 grey “suit” with a white polo
> shirt and unshaven.  Good condition.
>
> Bob – Disintegration cover art work….but brighter.  Good condition.
>
> Band – black and white backstage shot after the 1989 MTV video music awards,
> all of them grinning except Roger is in the center.  Blue boarders with
> “Mixed up” written on it. Excellent condition.
>
> Bob – cut out black and white pic of bob in his white polo with the black
> “suit”, 1985 era and good condition.
>
> Bob – 1987 era shot of him in a white collared shirt, grey sweater vest,
> arms crossed over shoulders.  Good condition.
>
> Bob – live, head on the door era shot of him with his guitar in a harsh
> spotlight.  Navy collared shirt with the black “suit” jacket, looking down.
> Good condition.
>
> Misc. Calendars with the Cure:
>
> KROQ 1989 calendar (Pics of Iggy Pop, Bowie, Brian Ferry, X, Social
> Distortion, Billy Idol, Dave Gahan, shot of 1988 Depeche Mode Rose Bowl
> show, Siouxsie, Pet Shop Boys, OMD, U2, of course the Cure, and a few
> others…ok condition….)
>
> KROQ 1991 Calendar (Groovy disintegration era photo, Jane’s Addiction,
> Sinead, UB40, B52’s, Social D, Dramarama, Depeche Mode, Chilli Peppers,
> Peter Murphy, U2.  Good condition aside from the fact that my brother wrote
> in a few birthdays, but you’re buying for the pictures, right?)
>
> Tons of issues of Other Voices and The Cure News, Buttons, and various
> magazine and newspaper articles:
> Items ranging from excellent condition to ok-ish, e-mail for details.
>
> Siouxsie and the Banshees:
>
> Siouxsie “The Rapture” poster
>
> Hyaena Tour program signed by Budgie, Sioux and Steve Severin.  Good
> condition.
>
> Tinderbox Tour program, good condition.
>
> Siouxsie 1987 double sided poster from Peepshow tour.  (Presented and folded
> like a tour program.) Excellent condition.
>
> Superstition Tour program, excellent condition.
>
> Black and white poster of Siouxsie in long black dress with white sparkly
> vest, her hands in her pockets, looking to the side and standing between two
> barber pole type cylinders.  (A few folds but otherwise, good condition.)
> Happy House era picture.
>
> Siouxsie “Through the looking glass” era poster, looking glam in pink flower
> and feather hat, jeweled earrings, black gloves with jeweled ring with her
> chin resting on her hand.  Pink strapless dress.  (Quite a few bends and
> folds, as it’s been rolled up and sitting in my closet, but otherwise good
> condition.)
>
> Postcard:  collage of 2 guitar live shot, smiling Siouxsie with her eyes
> closed in Tinderbox era makeup.  Good condition.
>
> Other bands pins:
>
> All of the following are in excellent condition.
>
> Love and Rockets – black and white album cover artwork with a black heart in
> the center. Love and Rockets written in pink.  I have two of them.
>
> Cocteau Twins – Treasure cover artwork in pink.
>
> Jesus and Mary Chain – “Automatic” pin with aqua star, white background.
>
> Bauhaus – Black and white photo of the band with Peter Murphy positioning
> his hands on his hips.
>
> Misc band postcards:
>
> The Mission UK: Deliverance 1990 Tour postcard.  Wayne and company standing
> on a black cloth thingy with a white background.  I have two of them, one is
> in ok condition, and the other is in good condition.
>
> Joy Division – “Here are the young men” black and white shot of the band
> standing behind a fence, by a road.  Ok condition.
>
> Nine inch Nails – Band standing (One is wearing pants with “The last supper”
> painted on them.) with Trent is squatting.  Color shot in ok condition.
>
> Jesus and Mary Chain – “You trip me up” title, slightly yellowed shot of the
> band in leather and wearing sunglasses.  Ok condition.
>
> Joy Division – “Atmosphere” postcard with a shot of a snow covered forest.
> Good condition.
>
> The Mission UK – Wayne Hussey live shot, “Carved in Sand” era, with his arm
> outstretched.  Ok condition.
>
> The Wonderstuff – Color band shot with Miles Hunt in the foreground, looking
> demented.  The band is out of focus, “Eight legged groove machine” era shot.
>   Good condition.
>
> Other band posters:
>
> PJ Harvey “Four track demos” promo poster from Select magazine.  All the
> usual fold out magazine poster creases.  Excellent condition.
>
> Misc:
>
> “The Crow” promo poster, says “Darker than the bat” underneath w/quotes from
> Rolling Stone to the left, credits on the bottom. Basically the same pic
> you’ll find on the UK covers of the video (Which would be Brandon Lee in
> black leather in that sinister pose he did while telling the Jesus joke in
> the movie.) with orange background.  Good condition with a little sticker
> residue on the back.
>
> Trainspotting poster.  Spiffy condition with a little tape residue on the
> back, as it was on my wall.
>
> Munch’s painting “the Scream” poster.  Full color.  Spiffy condition with
> the exception of a few tiny tears at the end and a little tape residue on
> the back.
>
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I know the band aren't entirely electronic
technophobes and have done some great electronic
stuff.  Only problem with this is that they are a
band: what is everyone going to do when they play
live, while one person pushes a button, and Robert
sings?

I have seen many performances like this usually
involving one or two musicians. With a drummer, two
guitarists, and a bass player I think Cure live shows
would certainly be less interesting if reduced to
button pushing.

Indie rock does seem to have had its day. But I don't
agree that just because electronic music is popular
that this is what the band should do. They have always
been a bit different- that's what has given them such
a large fanbase at different points in their career.
As has been mentioned they did a remix album when no
one else did remix albums. I hope that they can
continue to be outside the mainstream, and just make
great music regardless of what is popular at the time.
Disco was popular in the seventies, but how do we look
upon it now?

Of course there's nothing wrong with the band
incorporating electronic stuff into their work as they
have always done. However, I can't imagine the Cure
producing an album with not one guitar on it, as well
as electronically generated melodies/beats.

Michelle



  --- Professor Vast <theliquidspace@...>
wrote: > wait...the Cure DIDN'T already do this with
Mixed
> up?????
>
> i know what you're saying...original new songs in
> the Mixed up style...
> i'm down with that... The Walk is one of the most
> personally artistically
> influential songs ever for me...
>
> pv
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jasper Klapwijk" <jasperk@...>
> To: <descent@...>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:32 PM
> Subject: [descent] Electro vs Guitar
>
>
> > The preference for The Cure as a guitar rock band
> or an alt.electronic pop
> > act seems to be an interesting point of difference
> between Cure fans. Of
> > couse, most of us like them both ways, but still,
> there seems to be a
> slight
> > inclination toward the one or the other.
> >
> > I would argue that, form an artistic and
> commercial point of view, the
> days
> > of indie guitar rock are over. There has been
> relatively little creativity
> > after the grunge hype of the early nineties. Of
> course, there still is
> some
> > occasional succes - The Strokes, The Hives,
> Libertines etc.- but as a
> whole
> > the rock scene seems repetitive.
> >
> > Electronic Pop, however, is the place to be. Dj's
> seem to have taken over
> > the dancefloor (and turnover) from traditional
> bands. The best new alt.pop
> > bands use computermusic naturally - e.g. eels,
> Flaming Lips, Radiohead.
> > Several traditional alt.pop acts have electronised
> their music to make the
> > cross to the modern dancefloor: Sonic Youth, Peter
> Gabriel, REM, David
> > Bowie, to name a few.
> >
> > It would be wise, both artistically and
> commercially, for the Cure to tap
> in
> > to this electronic trend. They were among the
> early adapters - akin to New
> > Order and Depeche Mode - of computer music, and
> they were good at it. Love
> > Cats, for instance, can still compete with many
> electropopsongs.
> >
> > Ever since the Japanese Whispers, they have kept
> in tune with the world of
> > electronic pop and dance music: some traxx on Head
> on the Door, Kiss me
> Kiss
> > me Kiss me, and, of course, the underrated MixedUp
> album. It is safe to
> say
> > that Electro Pop is very much in the musical core
> of the Cure.
> >
> > Personally, I would like to see More Than This as
> a perfect example of
> what
> > the band is capable of in this field, like 'Purple
> Haze' (the much
> > criticised electro version on the Hendrix tribute
> Stone Free), or 'World
> In
> > My Eyes', the Depeche Mode cover...
> >
> > Jazz
>

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“Everything under the sun” Cure goods sale!!!

I have tour programs, books, posters, calendars, t-shirt, postcards,
fanzines and articles from nearly 20 years ago!  I’ve also thrown in a few
Siouxsie and the Banshees and miscellaneous items as well.

All conditions of the goods are listed and if you need further info or
descriptions, feel free to e-mail me.  All shipping costs are expected to be
reimbursed by the buyer, however, if you live in the Los Angeles or London
areas, we can discuss arrangements to exchange in person.  All reasonable
bids considered and the deadline is Saturday at 6pm, pacific standard time.
Enjoy.

CD:

“Pink Pig” tribute to the Cure.  I have two copies in excellent condition.

Vinyl:

Bootleg of 7/15/87 Los Angeles Forum show.  Like cockatoos, The Walk,
Inbetween days, How beautiful you are, The perfect girl, The snakepit, A
Forest, Fight, Close to me, Let’s go to bed, A thousand hours, Shiver and
shake, Hey you, Three Imaginary Boys, Why can’t I be you?.  Tone def
records.  Black and white pic of Bob on the cover in his Betty Boop shirt.
Red lip prints on the back.  Good condition.

“Arabian Dream”  good condition.

“Baktabak” “Limited Edition” interview picture disc. #2105 and #2011, both
in good condition.

The Robert Smith interviews volume one, “Between the forest and the Sea,” by
baktabak records, 1989.  Good condition, blue vinyl.

The Cure “Brits 91” press conference interview.  Clear vinyl, no record
company listed, has “Doctor, Doctor, give me the Cure!” inscribed (among
other things) in tiny lettering on it.  Good condition.

Shirts:

US Prayer Tour Shirt – Bob’s head in blue with eyes closed, streaks of shade
over his face, w/The Cure written in Pink.  Same pic on the back.  Has been
washed a few times (because I’ve worn it, silly.) but it’s in good
condition.  (Large.)

Lullaby shirt from US Prayer Tour.  Washed a few times but in really good
condition since I rarely wore it.  (large.)

Bob shirt: Shot of Bob during the “Catch” video filming, leaning over a
balcony, with his hands on his head.  Says “The Cure” and “Kiss Me” is
written about three times across the top.  Washed a few times but in good
condition. X-large.

Bob shirt from the Swing Tour.  Bob in red and white polka dot, long sleeved
shirt, on his knees, grinning.  X-large.  (Good, but washed a few times.)

Dream Tour Australia shirt.  Pyramid black and white shot of the band,
V-neck, medium, in excellent, pristine condition.  Never worn. (Bought for a
friend who later pissed me off.)

Old Spin magazine cover from Wish era.  Pyramid with headshots of each band
member in sepia, Bob w/eyes colored in yellow.  Cure wish font in yellow on
the back over sepia. (Large, good condition, been washed a few times.)

Bloodflowers tour shirt: Album cover in black and white with “The Cure”
written in red font across the top and down the side.  V-neck, x-large, says
“Bloodflowers” on the back in red and “The Cure” through the middle and
going down in white.  (Excellent condition.)

Tour Programs:

Beach Party tour (US) program, good condition.

Wish tour (US) program x 2, one in good condition, one in excellent (Don’t
ask me how I ended up with two.) condition.

Dream Tour Program (US and Europe.) Good condition.

Disintegration Tour program (US) good condition.

Swing Tour (US) program, good condition.

Psych Furs “Midnight to Midnight” (US) tour program (good condition) w/Roger
O’Donnell.

Misc:

Scooter riding clown from the Wild Mood Swings album cover

Videos:

“Play Out”

Books:

“The Cure on Record” by Darren Butler, excellent condition.

“Ten Imaginary Years” good condition.

“The Cure – A Visual Documentary” x 2 , one in good condition, one ok.
(Don’t ask.)

“The Cure” by Joanne Greene (12 out of the 45 pages are loose, but otherwise
it’s in good condition.  C’mon, I bought it 14 years ago. I’m getting old….)

“The Cure – Faith” by Dave Bowler and Bryan Day.  (Excellent condition.)

“The making of Disintegration” by Dave Thompson, compact books CD.

Alternative comics #1 (Cure, Pearl Jam, Rem.) Good condition.  Premise of
story is Bob dies on an airplane and looks back at his life.

Big black book of magazine articles up to 1986.  Has no title, just the
“Seventeen Seconds” Cure font, black and white cover with Bob, Simon, and
Lol looking really young and spiffy.  Don’t know how else to describe it
kids except that I bought it over 10 years ago.  It doesn’t even have a
publisher listed so go figure.

Stickers:

Band in black and white with “Kiss me” scrawled in the background.

Bob in a black and white top era photo.  Headshot, medium, higher Bob afro,
“The Cure” written in Head on the door font in red.  Good condition.

Bob – on a beach, arms crossed, smaller Bob afro, white print shirt, blue
lower cut v-neck sweater, left side shot, looking away from the camera.  The
Cure written in head on the door font.  Good condition.

Pins:

All of the following are in excellent condition, as it’s kind of hard to
fuck up a pin, isn’t it?

The Cure – The top album cover artwork.

Bob – square pin, has short, normal looking hair with the usual makeup.
Blue polo with pink background.

The Cure “Boys don’t cry” single artwork in black and white.

Why can’t I be you? Single cover artwork in black and white.

Lovecats single artwork in black and yellow.

Head on the door cover artwork.

Bob, Lol and Simon cutouts of 17 seconds era photos with the Cure written in
plain, yellow font.

Bob sitting on a cliff over looking the ocean, petting two brown dogs and
smiling.

Ghastly ghost figure in day glow coloring, standing in front of a sign that
says “The cure” in head on the door font.

Head shot of Bob with his head in his hands wearing medium brown eye shadow.
   Says Robert Smith in red font.

Official Calendars:
1992 (Good), 1993 (Good), 1991 Bob calendar (good), 1990 Mostly Bob calendar
(Good, but has a small bend on a corner of the cover.) 1996 calendar.
(Excellent and a lot of band participation.  Groovy.)

Tear out poster book from Atlanta Press, mostly of Bob, a few groovy pics of
the band.  Ok condition.  (By this I mean some of the perforation is
separating but the pictures are in good condition.)

Posters:

Black and white cartoon type pic of Bob in Betty Boop shirt.  Lips colored
in red.  The Cure in red font.  (Excellent, pristine condition.)

Black and white Technicolor photo of the band, WMS era w/their eyes painted
blue in front of a sepia colored, Indian style (with flowers and the like.)
wallpapered wall.  Bob forward center (as usual) with blue long sleeved
shirt w/top two buttons open, Perry hiding behind him, Roger on the end in a
black long sleeved button up shirt, Jason behind Bob w/his shirt unzipped,
Simon looking pissed off and wearing a white sweater. (Good condition)

Show promo poster from Select magazine.  Typical fold out poster from
magazine creases.  Good condition.

Bob “Smash Hits” center fold (red w/white polka dot shirt, disintegration
era shot.  White background, hands folded.)

High era poster from “Indicator” magazine.  Bob, Simon, Port and Boris in
the clouds with their arms outstretched.  Ok condition.

The posters listed above are in good condition, but the vast majorities
(which will follow this message) have been either on my wall, stored in a
closet or both so they’ll be kind of worn.  I figure, rather than chucking
them straightaway in the bin, that there’s a possibility someone might want
them…

Crystal Palace 11th Aug show promo poster.  Black and white w/Bob in the
foreground and band darkened in the background.  Bob in v-neck knit sweater
with collared shirt.  (A little folded up, as it was up in my closet for a
while.  Tape marks on the edges, as it was also once on my wall.)

Wish Promo poster- the boys posing on the green Astroturf  hill with the
wish eye hologram over them and a small pic of the album cover in the right
hand corner.  (A few tape marks on the back, small tear in the left hand
corner.  Ok-ish.)

Wish promo poster that I got from a listening party in ’92.  The boys in
front of an orange and red background, Bob in blue v-neck sweater w/green
tee, Boris in red jacket w/sunglasses, Porl in brown cardigan with green
tee, etc, etc.  Different shot from the same photo session that was commonly
used for wish era interview, hopefully my description does it justice.  (A
few bends, as it’s been rolled up, with some sticker residue on the back, as
it was on my wall.)

Big ass collage poster of different Bob moments in olive tint.

- The Bob and Siouxsie pic where he’s got his fist over his mouth and looks
as if he’s giggling, Sioux’s arm around him.
- Bob in full on huge Nike, tongue forward shoe craziness thing style that
he was so fond of in the late ‘80s, on some rocks by the ocean, in a v-neck
sweater w/a print tee.
- Bob pointing his finger at his head, like a gun, and winking.

(A little torn at the bottom end, slightly bent, as it’s been rolled up and
stowed in my closet for a few years, with the usual “been up on my wall”
tape residue.)

Bob sitting in a chair w/his arms folded, Kiss me era, shorter hairdo, blue
v-neck sweater w/white polo tee underneath, pinkish lipstick, “Kiss me” Cure
font.  (Slightly crinkly, the “been up on my wall” tape residue on the
back.)

Whole band “Head on the door” era poster.  The pic is on page 98 in “Ten
imaginary years,” but this one has a blue tint.

Bob poster in black and white, sitting on a step, not looking at the camera,
the only makeup he’s wearing is eyeliner, white polo shirt.  The Cure is
written at the bottom in white “Head on the Door” font with “Why can’t I be
you?” written underneath it.

So, any offers?

Postcards:

Bob – His head in, which appears to be, a mirrored box with tons of light in
the pic.  Red boarder.  Excellent condition.

Bob – Side shot of him in the “grey suit” around 1985, sitting in a chair,
with his head in his hand.  Blue background.  Good condition.

Color headshot of Bob in a black v-neck shirt.  Good condition.

Band posing in front of “Wish” clouds and sitting on grass like stuff.  Good
condition.

Bob and company sitting on a grassy hump thingy (Wish promo) Blue sky
background with white outline of the Wish eye in the foreground.  Wish album
cover in the right hand corner, good condition.

Bob and company, 1986 era shot.  White blotchy paint over grey brick wall,
band sitting on sand colored burlap.  From right:  Simon wearing black
leather, Bob in a white collared shirt with grey sweater vest, Boris in a
black leather jacket with a white tee shirt, Porl in a white tee, Lol in a
black denim jacket and a white collared shirt.

Disintegration era shot of the band in the background with a red light on
them.  Bob in the foreground with a bright light on him, good condition.

Cure Kroq 1992 Wish Long Beach arena show promo sticker.  I have 3 of them
in excellent condition.

Bob – 1984 Top era pic (Leather pants, white collared shirt, black beaded
necklace, blue background, sitting in a chair.) with “The Cure – Picture of
you” written across the top in “head on the door” font.  Excellent
condition.

Bob in his “never enough” costume in the tiny room with a lamp hanging over
his head.  (Last scene of the video.)  Excellent condition.

Bob sepia “Lullaby” costume photo.  Side shot of bob sitting in his brown
vest get up.  (Good condition.)

Bob- “Catch” video pic.  Bob on the balcony with his hands clasped.  Good
condition.

Bob – “Boys don’t cry” silhouette shot.  I have two, one in good condition
the other is in ok condition.

The band in a Wish era shot.  From left:  Porl, Perry, Boris, Simon, and
Bob.  There’s a black umbrella in the shot that’s blown inside out.  Weather
vane behind Perry.  Excellent condition.

Bob – Disintegration era shot.  Red light doused pic with Bob in a red
shirt.  Good condition.

Photo of the band in the studio making Disintegration.  (All of them sitting
in front of the soundboard.  Sent from the Cure news back in 1989.)  Ok
condition.

Shot of the band after the 1989 MTV video music awards.  Good condition.

Bob – Disintegration era photo of Bob in a blue collared shirt in blue
light.  Good condition.

Bob in the grey 1985 “band suit” thingy crazy thing he liked to wear back
then, with a white polo shirt.  Seated against a beige brick wall.  I have 3
of them and all are in good condition.

Distorted shot of Bob and Lol (lovecats era – pinkish and black.)  Bob’s
wearing a chain mail style necklace with his arm up over his head.  Good
condition.

Bob looking at a book (And looking like shit, I might add.) with a cigarette
in his hand.  Black and white shot and it looks like he’s in a dressing
room.  Good condition.

Kiss me promo postcard.  Bob’s lips, Bob in front of an Italian looking
painting, and says “Kiss me x3 double album, cassette, single, compact
disc.” Good condition.

Bob- yellow back ground, “The kiss me” shirt poster but with just Bob with
his hands on his hips.  Excellent condition.

Bob – “let’s go to bed”, excellent condition.

The band in “Never Enough” costumes, posing in front of paisley wallpaper.
Black and white pic in excellent condition.

Bob and Siouxsie.  Black and white pic of Sioux in a devil shirt with Bob
posed with his hand over his face.

Bob in the grey “suit” in a live shot doing his little dance thingy.  Good
condition.

Bob in his “lullaby” get up, side view, with black long nails.  Outer
boarder is Lullaby single cover and in good condition.

Bob – black and white close up in his 1985 grey “suit” with a white polo
shirt and unshaven.  Good condition.

Bob – Disintegration cover art work….but brighter.  Good condition.

Band – black and white backstage shot after the 1989 MTV video music awards,
all of them grinning except Roger is in the center.  Blue boarders with
“Mixed up” written on it. Excellent condition.

Bob – cut out black and white pic of bob in his white polo with the black
“suit”, 1985 era and good condition.

Bob – 1987 era shot of him in a white collared shirt, grey sweater vest,
arms crossed over shoulders.  Good condition.

Bob – live, head on the door era shot of him with his guitar in a harsh
spotlight.  Navy collared shirt with the black “suit” jacket, looking down.
Good condition.

Misc. Calendars with the Cure:

KROQ 1989 calendar (Pics of Iggy Pop, Bowie, Brian Ferry, X, Social
Distortion, Billy Idol, Dave Gahan, shot of 1988 Depeche Mode Rose Bowl
show, Siouxsie, Pet Shop Boys, OMD, U2, of course the Cure, and a few
others…ok condition….)

KROQ 1991 Calendar (Groovy disintegration era photo, Jane’s Addiction,
Sinead, UB40, B52’s, Social D, Dramarama, Depeche Mode, Chilli Peppers,
Peter Murphy, U2.  Good condition aside from the fact that my brother wrote
in a few birthdays, but you’re buying for the pictures, right?)

Tons of issues of Other Voices and The Cure News, Buttons, and various
magazine and newspaper articles:
Items ranging from excellent condition to ok-ish, e-mail for details.

Siouxsie and the Banshees:

Siouxsie “The Rapture” poster

Hyaena Tour program signed by Budgie, Sioux and Steve Severin.  Good
condition.

Tinderbox Tour program, good condition.

Siouxsie 1987 double sided poster from Peepshow tour.  (Presented and folded
like a tour program.) Excellent condition.

Superstition Tour program, excellent condition.

Black and white poster of Siouxsie in long black dress with white sparkly
vest, her hands in her pockets, looking to the side and standing between two
barber pole type cylinders.  (A few folds but otherwise, good condition.)
Happy House era picture.

Siouxsie “Through the looking glass” era poster, looking glam in pink flower
and feather hat, jeweled earrings, black gloves with jeweled ring with her
chin resting on her hand.  Pink strapless dress.  (Quite a few bends and
folds, as it’s been rolled up and sitting in my closet, but otherwise good
condition.)

Postcard:  collage of 2 guitar live shot, smiling Siouxsie with her eyes
closed in Tinderbox era makeup.  Good condition.

Other bands pins:

All of the following are in excellent condition.

Love and Rockets – black and white album cover artwork with a black heart in
the center. Love and Rockets written in pink.  I have two of them.

Cocteau Twins – Treasure cover artwork in pink.

Jesus and Mary Chain – “Automatic” pin with aqua star, white background.

Bauhaus – Black and white photo of the band with Peter Murphy positioning
his hands on his hips.

Misc band postcards:

The Mission UK: Deliverance 1990 Tour postcard.  Wayne and company standing
on a black cloth thingy with a white background.  I have two of them, one is
in ok condition, and the other is in good condition.

Joy Division – “Here are the young men” black and white shot of the band
standing behind a fence, by a road.  Ok condition.

Nine inch Nails – Band standing (One is wearing pants with “The last supper”
painted on them.) with Trent is squatting.  Color shot in ok condition.

Jesus and Mary Chain – “You trip me up” title, slightly yellowed shot of the
band in leather and wearing sunglasses.  Ok condition.

Joy Division – “Atmosphere” postcard with a shot of a snow covered forest.
Good condition.

The Mission UK – Wayne Hussey live shot, “Carved in Sand” era, with his arm
outstretched.  Ok condition.

The Wonderstuff – Color band shot with Miles Hunt in the foreground, looking
demented.  The band is out of focus, “Eight legged groove machine” era shot.
   Good condition.

Other band posters:

PJ Harvey “Four track demos” promo poster from Select magazine.  All the
usual fold out magazine poster creases.  Excellent condition.

Misc:

“The Crow” promo poster, says “Darker than the bat” underneath w/quotes from
Rolling Stone to the left, credits on the bottom. Basically the same pic
you’ll find on the UK covers of the video (Which would be Brandon Lee in
black leather in that sinister pose he did while telling the Jesus joke in
the movie.) with orange background.  Good condition with a little sticker
residue on the back.

Trainspotting poster.  Spiffy condition with a little tape residue on the
back, as it was on my wall.

Munch’s painting “the Scream” poster.  Full color.  Spiffy condition with
the exception of a few tiny tears at the end and a little tape residue on
the back.

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wait...the Cure DIDN'T already do this with Mixed up?????

i know what you're saying...original new songs in the Mixed up style...
i'm down with that... The Walk is one of the most personally artistically
influential songs ever for me...

pv

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jasper Klapwijk" <jasperk@...>
To: <descent@...>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:32 PM
Subject: [descent] Electro vs Guitar


> The preference for The Cure as a guitar rock band or an alt.electronic pop
> act seems to be an interesting point of difference between Cure fans. Of
> couse, most of us like them both ways, but still, there seems to be a
slight
> inclination toward the one or the other.
>
> I would argue that, form an artistic and commercial point of view, the
days
> of indie guitar rock are over. There has been relatively little creativity
> after the grunge hype of the early nineties. Of course, there still is
some
> occasional succes - The Strokes, The Hives, Libertines etc.- but as a
whole
> the rock scene seems repetitive.
>
> Electronic Pop, however, is the place to be. Dj's seem to have taken over
> the dancefloor (and turnover) from traditional bands. The best new alt.pop
> bands use computermusic naturally - e.g. eels, Flaming Lips, Radiohead.
> Several traditional alt.pop acts have electronised their music to make the
> cross to the modern dancefloor: Sonic Youth, Peter Gabriel, REM, David
> Bowie, to name a few.
>
> It would be wise, both artistically and commercially, for the Cure to tap
in
> to this electronic trend. They were among the early adapters - akin to New
> Order and Depeche Mode - of computer music, and they were good at it. Love
> Cats, for instance, can still compete with many electropopsongs.
>
> Ever since the Japanese Whispers, they have kept in tune with the world of
> electronic pop and dance music: some traxx on Head on the Door, Kiss me
Kiss
> me Kiss me, and, of course, the underrated MixedUp album. It is safe to
say
> that Electro Pop is very much in the musical core of the Cure.
>
> Personally, I would like to see More Than This as a perfect example of
what
> the band is capable of in this field, like 'Purple Haze' (the much
> criticised electro version on the Hendrix tribute Stone Free), or 'World
In
> My Eyes', the Depeche Mode cover...
>
> Jazz

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i'd have to disagree in that look dows not matter, is this pop or what? and
with robert's hair and make up, look has to matter... the only thng there is
is superficial, but that's not a worthy discussion. He looks very well with
his weight anyway, just like the good uncle of goth that is always giving
candies as it was halloween.
completely agreeing with electro stuff but not in the case of cure. I think
moby is great and radiohead (even tooo overrated) is not that bad. Some
bjork and bowie atmospheres are incredible and one of the best electronic
acts i've been hearing lately is levinhurst (gotta listen to it, it would be
great if lol could contribute with some electronic music to a new cure
album, creating textures of acoustic-electronic sound for tracks of one or
two minute recreating The Final Sounds style.).
Electronic is the new experimentation and there's a lot of great artists
into it. But, personally, i don't think that more than this was a good
track. It's in a great album and I feel like many songs of artists I know
less or I don't even like are superior to the cure one, and it's sad to
admitt. But I prefer Invisible sun, 'One more murder', 'Deuce', 'Hunter' or
the mike oldfield thing over more than this. They are all great tracks and
more than this lacks life and is less original, to my point of view. Maybe I
was to demanding beacause it was cure material but I don't think that kind
of electropop is waht robert does best.

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I am nicely surprised at the amount of recent Descent email.  I feel
like saying something, but don't eally know how to express it... Well
I'll try anyway.  I agree with Emilio in his selection of great songs---
but as others said, it's difficult for any of us not to agree, isn't
it?!  Something like KMx3 just can't be done again.  That's the beauty
of it.  Personally, I feel better not thinking what I want them to do.
They often manage to do the unexpected.  Maybe they will again.  And,
in Robert's words, don't take them so seriously.  The fact that for
most of us they are sometimes a reason for living shouldn't interfere.

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huggable indeed. i think it's cute, and makes him even more lovable.
How tall is he?



I have updated,AGAIN

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>From: Michelle Smith <caterpillargirlau@...>
>Reply-To: descent@...
>To: descent@...
>Subject: Re: [descent] Robert quitting
>Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:00:13 -0500
>
>Yes, it's quite a term of endearment among goths to
>call him "Fat Bob." This term even applies to Wish era
>Robert- at this time I don't think Robert is fat at
>all. I personally think he just looks "huggable."
>
>I don't think he needs to lose weight, either. He's a
>guy in his forties who likes to drink; of course,
>he'll have a bit of a belly. Almost everyone past
>their twenties who doesn't spend all day in the gym is
>a little bit soft around the middle.
>
>Michelle
>
>  --- erin lynch <e_lynch80@...> wrote: > he
>doesn't need to lose weight...
> >
> >
> >
> > I have updated,AGAIN
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/inerinshead
> >
> > >From: CureMode212@...
> > >Reply-To: descent@...
> > >To: descent@...
> > >Subject: Re: [descent] Robert quitting
> > >Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:13:07 -0500
> > >
> > >dont scare me like that!! i want robert to be the
> > next mick jagger. if only
> > >the poor guy could lose some weight....

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The preference for The Cure as a guitar rock band or an alt.electronic pop
act seems to be an interesting point of difference between Cure fans. Of
couse, most of us like them both ways, but still, there seems to be a slight
inclination toward the one or the other.

I would argue that, form an artistic and commercial point of view, the days
of indie guitar rock are over. There has been relatively little creativity
after the grunge hype of the early nineties. Of course, there still is some
occasional succes - The Strokes, The Hives, Libertines etc.- but as a whole
the rock scene seems repetitive.

Electronic Pop, however, is the place to be. Dj's seem to have taken over
the dancefloor (and turnover) from traditional bands. The best new alt.pop
bands use computermusic naturally - e.g. eels, Flaming Lips, Radiohead.
Several traditional alt.pop acts have electronised their music to make the
cross to the modern dancefloor: Sonic Youth, Peter Gabriel, REM, David
Bowie, to name a few.

It would be wise, both artistically and commercially, for the Cure to tap in
to this electronic trend. They were among the early adapters - akin to New
Order and Depeche Mode - of computer music, and they were good at it. Love
Cats, for instance, can still compete with many electropopsongs.

Ever since the Japanese Whispers, they have kept in tune with the world of
electronic pop and dance music: some traxx on Head on the Door, Kiss me Kiss
me Kiss me, and, of course, the underrated MixedUp album. It is safe to say
that Electro Pop is very much in the musical core of the Cure.

Personally, I would like to see More Than This as a perfect example of what
the band is capable of in this field, like 'Purple Haze' (the much
criticised electro version on the Hendrix tribute Stone Free), or 'World In
My Eyes', the Depeche Mode cover...

Jazz

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look does not matter, only music does.

David.



> >
> >dont scare me like that!! i want robert to be the next mick jagger. if only
> >the poor guy could lose some weight....

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Hello folks

This is my first post to the list.
I just want to tell that I saw the Cure for the first time last november
in Hamburg, Color Line Arena. The show was incredible, absolutely. Just
wish to know if someone has a copy of this concert... I would be really
glad!!!!!!!!!

Thanks,

David.

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My two cents about the string quartet tribute:
I listened to it only one time completely. The beginnings of most of the
songs are nice because one is curious to hear what they made out of it. But
the longer each song lasts the more it starts to bore me. I'm not very used
to listen to classic music but this string quartet arrangements remind me of
Johann Sebastian Bach's Brandenburg concertos. I think you have to like
classic music in general, and baroque music especially, if you really will
like this tribute.

And about the discussion concerning the upcoming albums:
I would really love to get some "heavy" stuff again, like The Kiss or
Shakedog. These songs, played live, are so powerful, it's always kind of a
revelation to me.
But, of course, I would love to get some of the famous melancholy, too, like
Same Deep Water, or Faith.
And I don't want to miss great pop songs.
I even would agree to new eletronics...

It seems as if I have to admit that I will love anything they will release!
:)
(what a strange sentence - I hope this might be English and you understand
it...)

Take Cure
Greg

http://www.shakedog.com



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-descent@...
> [mailto:owner-descent@...]Im Auftrag von Emilio
> Siciliano
> Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2003 07:01
> An: descent@...
> Betreff: [descent] Re And String quartet
>
>
> i'd love some 70's punkish pop but that's completely
> impossible (though it
> would kick some green day's and aknf's asses, nothing against them). I
> completely agree with the electronic stuff (anyway, if it was
> something like
> moby's Everything is wrong, it would be the perfect second chapter of
> faith). Cure's electronic pop is what i also like less of
> them, and i like
> everything (i love the top).
>
> and a question: Did anybody listen to the tribute by the
> string quartet? I
> listened to the first 50 seconds of Boys dont cry and
> Lovecats and I really
> liked. The begining of boys don't cry is incredible, so
> melancholic. The
> ones who could listen to it, please tell me what do you think
> about that.

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Yes, it's quite a term of endearment among goths to
call him "Fat Bob." This term even applies to Wish era
Robert- at this time I don't think Robert is fat at
all. I personally think he just looks "huggable."

I don't think he needs to lose weight, either. He's a
guy in his forties who likes to drink; of course,
he'll have a bit of a belly. Almost everyone past
their twenties who doesn't spend all day in the gym is
a little bit soft around the middle.

Michelle

  --- erin lynch <e_lynch80@...> wrote: > he
doesn't need to lose weight...
>
>
>
> I have updated,AGAIN
>
> http://www.geocities.com/inerinshead
>
> >From: CureMode212@...
> >Reply-To: descent@...
> >To: descent@...
> >Subject: Re: [descent] Robert quitting
> >Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:13:07 -0500
> >
> >dont scare me like that!! i want robert to be the
> next mick jagger. if only
> >the poor guy could lose some weight....

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i'd love some 70's punkish pop but that's completely impossible (though it
would kick some green day's and aknf's asses, nothing against them). I
completely agree with the electronic stuff (anyway, if it was something like
moby's Everything is wrong, it would be the perfect second chapter of
faith). Cure's electronic pop is what i also like less of them, and i like
everything (i love the top).

and a question: Did anybody listen to the tribute by the string quartet? I
listened to the first 50 seconds of Boys dont cry and Lovecats and I really
liked. The begining of boys don't cry is incredible, so melancholic. The
ones who could listen to it, please tell me what do you think about that.

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