Jonathan Mills wrote:

>
> But to really put humans in their place, check out this piece
> by the Detroit Symphony Orchestra. The conductor doesn't look
> like Mike, but it is only a matter of time...

Little brother is the third trumpet from the left. IIR, his take on this
was, "About average for a guest conductor."

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5szwz6Qzc&NR=1
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5szwz6Qzc&NR=1>
>
> Practice all you want to, but get ready for some wanking (or
> is that Wankel? ;-) engine to tell you when and how to play.

What makes you think classical musicians pay any attention at all to the
conductor? :-)

Brian

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Brian Good <bsgood@...> wrote:

> Little brother is the third trumpet from the left. IIR, his
> take on this was, "About average for a guest conductor."


That is SO cool! Your brother was there? Schwei!

I have no idea if they pay attention to the conductor. I *do*
have some new music "mentors" this year, in addition to my
original blues guitarist friend. One is a conductor who also
repairs wind instruments in retirement. He says that in his
experience the conductor sort of sets up a channel, like a
quality control engineer, and "steers" the orchestra into the
very best performance dynamics he can. But he claims he was
an "advisor, not a dictator." Did you catch that, Jim? You
said about the same thing at DS'08.

My second and most recent mentor is a violinist who plays in
several orchestras in the US and Europe, and has two VERY
expensive violins whose sound I cannot imagine capturing in
a patch. One, the $20,000 violin, was made with wood that he
lived with during its crafting. The bow alone cost over $2,000.
His $300 carbon fiber bow he calls "crap."

We have had long talks on expression and style, and he is doing
his best to help me get rid of the "electronic" sounds in my
alphorn pieces. He can hear things that I would never have heard
without his tutelage. Overtones, harmonics (he knew a saw wave
was in the original patch I built for the alphorn because he
heard the harmonics) etc. He has offered suggestions to revise
my patch. He has also played an alphorn in Europe, and knows
how things like emboucheur sound, and what a novice (i.e., noob)
alphornist can play. So I'm back to eight notes to practice with.

Yes that dirty word again.

There is no escape, even on a synth. Although he thought my little
trick was "clever," it was not a compliment. For some reason he
likes my music and thinks it has potential. Not much, but enough
that we have coffee every other week.

Nice to live in Bloomington. We have a good School of Music, and all
that that implies. When the pupil is ready, the teacher is not far
away!

;-)

Cheers!

Slate

--- On Sat, 3/28/09, Otso Pakarinen <otso@...> wrote:
>
> On 28.3.2009, at 22.11, Brian Good wrote:
> >
> > Soitinly
>
> Heheh! "Soitin" means "musical
> instrument" in Finnish - so that would
>
> be "instrumentally" in Finglish!
>
> Otso

Noooo way, HAHAHA! That's a crazy coincidence!

Greetings Mac Experts,

Every now and then, my wireless mighty mouse loses communication with my
iMac.  To restore it, I've been pressing the power button behind the
monitor on the left side; once to turn off the screen, and once to turn
it back on.  No data is lost and communications are restored.

Now please tell me what I'm doing wrong and what the correct procedure is.

Cheers,

Bill

Dear Earthlings

Just a timely reminder to tune in tomorrow night(i.e. Monday)to my
medically-unsupervised excuse for a radio show...called Vortextures.

Bring your popcorn . . . but chew quietly. You may miss something hilarious. Or
shocking. Or even true.



RF

....And you can listen to it live at the Stillstream site.

www dot stillstream dot com

Just look for the links at the top of the page for listening options.

And no....you don't have the option of 'not listening'.

These are merely different methods of accepting the stream...as the basic act of
listening is, of course, mandatory.

Enjoy ;)


RF

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Bill Fox <billyfox@...> wrote:


> Every now and then, my wireless mighty mouse loses
> communication with my iMac.  To restore it, I've been
> pressing the power button behind the monitor on the left
> side; once to turn off the screen, and once to turn
> it back on.  No data is lost and communications are
> restored.
>
> Now please tell me what I'm doing wrong and what the
> correct procedure is.


Hi, Bill,

I don't know, but I work with a guy who might. Would you give
me permission to pass this question on to him? So far no one
has sent a reply, or if they did, it was private.

BTW, your piece "Ada or Linda" was one of the ones that listening
to at my leisure after DS'08 helped me improve my music. Just a
brief note of thanks.

Cheers!

Jonathan

"I'm the best musician in the country!"

"Yeah, but how are ya in the city?"

- Moe and Larry (DANCING LADY, 1933)



> --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Otso Pakarinen <otso@...> wrote:
> >
> > On 28.3.2009, at 22.11, Brian Good wrote:
> > >
> > > Soitinly
> >
> > Heheh! "Soitin" means "musical
> > instrument" in Finnish - so that would
> >
> > be "instrumentally" in Finglish!
> >

Jonathan Mills wrote:
> --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Bill Fox <billyfox@...> wrote:
>
>> Every now and then, my wireless mighty mouse loses
>> communication with my iMac.  To restore it, I've been
>> pressing the power button behind the monitor on the left
>> side; once to turn off the screen, and once to turn
>> it back on.  No data is lost and communications are
>> restored.
>>
>> Now please tell me what I'm doing wrong and what the
>> correct procedure is.
>>
> Hi, Bill,
>
> I don't know, but I work with a guy who might. Would you give
> me permission to pass this question on to him? So far no one
> has sent a reply, or if they did, it was private.
>
No problem.  Permission granted 'cause I still need an answer.  (I've
never known anyone ask permission to help before!)
> BTW, your piece "Ada or Linda" was one of the ones that listening
> to at my leisure after DS'08 helped me improve my music. Just a
> brief note of thanks.
That was Tim's piece, the second half of what was presented as
Sidewinder Linda at the concert.  I just played (badly) on it.

Cheers,

Bill

Jonathan Mills wrote:

> I have no idea if they pay attention to the conductor. I *do*
> have some new music "mentors" this year, in addition to my
> original blues guitarist friend. One is a conductor who also
> repairs wind instruments in retirement. He says that in his
> experience the conductor sort of sets up a channel, like a
> quality control engineer, and "steers" the orchestra into the
> very best performance dynamics he can. But he claims he was
> an "advisor, not a dictator."

There's an old pamphlet of cartoons called "The Orchestra." Among other
things, it contains drawings of the conductor, as seen by the various
sections of the orchestra. I don't remember them all, but the string
section saw the conductor as a shepherd, leading them through, well, who
knows what. The brass, on the other hand, simply saw an empty podium.

> My second and most recent mentor is a violinist who plays in
> several orchestras in the US and Europe, and has two VERY
> expensive violins whose sound I cannot imagine capturing in
> a patch. One, the $20,000 violin, was made with wood that he
> lived with during its crafting. The bow alone cost over $2,000.
> His $300 carbon fiber bow he calls "crap."

But in an emergency a carbon fiber bow can be used as a rapier in a bar
fight. For when you take your expensive violin to play that Skynyrd
cover band gig.

> Nice to live in Bloomington. We have a good School of Music, and all
> that that implies. When the pupil is ready, the teacher is not far
> away!

Years ago I dated a woman who was a DJ on the local classical station,
and had a degree in opera conducting from IU. At one point I asked her,
"So what's it like to have a degree in an inherently dead field?"
Inexplicably, I think the relationship ended soon after.

Brian

We might have already covered this before it was on my radar...but any
recommendations for a reliable and affordable wireless mic? Plus whatever else
you need to make-it-go?

It would be for vocals. Probably not so much for talking. (Even though I'm
scared of the former, I'm probably more scared of the latter.) Thanks!

Jeannie, I highly recommend the Sennheiser wireless systems. There are
quite a few to choose from, depending on what sort of mic you want, lav,
cardioid, headset, etc That's what I used for DS07 & 08 and I am very
happy with them, good range, and no interference

Prices range from @$500 up to $1200 depending

Cheers

Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:differentskies@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeannie Allen
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:47 PM
To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [differentskies] wireless mic


We might have already covered this before it was on my radar...but any
recommendations for a reliable and affordable wireless mic? Plus
whatever else you need to make-it-go?

It would be for vocals. Probably not so much for talking. (Even though
I'm scared of the former, I'm probably more scared of the latter.)
Thanks!



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--- In differentskies@yahoogroups.com, "Allen Goodman" <azaxeman@...> wrote:
>
> Jeannie, I highly recommend the Sennheiser wireless systems. There are
> quite a few to choose from, depending on what sort of mic you want, lav,
> cardioid, headset, etc That's what I used for DS07 & 08 and I am very
> happy with them, good range, and no interference
>
> Prices range from @$500 up to $1200 depending
>

Audio-Technica also makes some good ones.  ALL brands make inexpensive ones and
I would really recommend staying away from them.  Quite often you can find deals
on used systems; Craigslist, etc.  Churches seem to go through various systems
quickly.

Do you want a handheld or headset mic?

Ivan

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7971223.stm

<Dr Jivago, Lawrence of Arabia...>

Greg

Joe McMahon has released a collection of experimental electronic ambient
compositions called "Ocean Music" on Earth Mantra. It is a seriously great album
and I encourage everyone to give it a download:

http://earthmantra.com/oceanmusic

Like all Earth Mantra releases, it is free for the downloading.

--- Darrell Burgan wrote:
> Joe McMahon has released a collection of experimental
> electronic ambient compositions called "Ocean Music"
> on Earth Mantra. It is a seriously great album and I
> encourage everyone to give it a download:
>
> http://earthmantra.com/oceanmusic
>
> Like all Earth Mantra releases, it is free for the
> downloading.


This news made my day!  Listening now.



=====
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tepmuseq@...
Emerald Adrift - electronic music to annoy your robots
http://www.myspace.com/emeraldadrift
"The Blue Flower" - free album download
http://earthmantra.com/theblueflower
Zen Caffeine - ambient radio with an edge
http://www.stillstream.com/schedule.php
=====

Brian Good wrote:
> Years ago I dated a woman who was a DJ on the local classical station,
> and had a degree in opera conducting from IU. At one point I asked her,
> "So what's it like to have a degree in an inherently dead field?"
> Inexplicably, I think the relationship ended soon after.
>
I wonder if she is still on the radio or if she ever gets to conduct operas?

-B

Hi Allen and Ivan, good to know. I thought a headset mic sounded cool since I
need both hands to play instruments and I'm not exactly super coordinated.

But after seeing the investment that takes, I'm going to stay with a gooseneck
mic. Or I could just work on *not* bumping into a regular mic stand I guess :-)
Thanks

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Ivan <ivancu@...> wrote:

> From: Ivan <ivancu@...>
> Subject: [differentskies] Re: wireless mic
> To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 1:59 AM
>
>
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>             --- In differentskies@
> yahoogroups. com, "Allen Goodman"
> <azaxeman@.. .> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Jeannie, I highly recommend the Sennheiser wireless
> systems. There are
>
> > quite a few to choose from, depending on what sort of
> mic you want, lav,
>
> > cardioid, headset, etc That's what I used for DS07
> & 08 and I am very
>
> > happy with them, good range, and no interference
>
> >
>
> > Prices range from @$500 up to $1200 depending
>
> >
>
>
>
> Audio-Technica also makes some good ones.  ALL brands make
> inexpensive ones and I would really recommend staying away
> from them.  Quite often you can find deals on used systems;
> Craigslist, etc.  Churches seem to go through various
> systems quickly.
>
>
>
> Do you want a handheld or headset mic?
>
>
>
> Ivan
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Yeah!!  F**cking Hell Yeah!!!

Light Through Water & Ammonite.

I'm not worthy.



fog



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From: differentskies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:differentskies@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Darrell Burgan
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:06 AM
To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [differentskies] New Release by Different Skies' own Joe McMahon



Joe McMahon has released a collection of experimental electronic ambient
compositions called "Ocean Music" on Earth Mantra. It is a seriously great
album and I encourage everyone to give it a download:

http://earthmantra. <http://earthmantra.com/oceanmusic> com/oceanmusic

Like all Earth Mantra releases, it is free for the downloading.





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Good afternoon, DS'ers,

I have been working on a piece for the entire DS orchestra
and even those who cannot attend but who can send me an MP3
clip to inject at the proper time. (I'm bringing a Roland
Sonic Cell this year.) Jim Combs, you could do your special
syncopated shakin' and rattlin', and Klimchak you might
contribute the cool Marimba Lumina doing hang drums.

This piece is derived from the 1984 FermiLab timeline of the
universe from the Big Bang to Now. It goes a bit further by
including a period of silence before the Big Bang to represent
the unknowable; the singularity. It also may be bad physics
but acceptable music to trigger the switches to expanded
groups and/or styles of performances with "Little Bangs" that
will, hopefully, reduce or remove the need for a conductor.
(And didn't Brian just say that the orchestra ignores the
conductor anyway?  ;-)

As the diagram shows the piece evolves from some tones and
drones by adding percussion, then notes of a scale, then
more instruments (see the matrix of parts at the middle
left of the diagram), then melody, then adding harmony and
finally a period of improvisation to represent intelligent
life in the universe.

This year I will have simple scoring and chords as well as an
MP3 of the piece as it is "drafted" to give an idea of what it
might sound like, but not what the group could build it into,
if it is accepted for performance.

The file is available for you to examine and comment on, and
the scoring will be uploaded soon. The MP3 should be ready
sometime in a week or so.

This one is intended for everybody. I hope you will enjoy it!

Cheers!

Slate

"it's not a clam, it's a creature!" ——Terry Austin, girl PI

Sweet Brian!!  Weren't too concerned about that relationship were ya.

LOL



fog



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From: differentskies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:differentskies@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bill Fox
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:21 PM
To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [differentskies] WTF-Sony, Toyota and Honda have us in their
sights! [Was: Jammin' Like Jim]



Brian Good wrote:
> Years ago I dated a woman who was a DJ on the local classical station,
> and had a degree in opera conducting from IU. At one point I asked her,
> "So what's it like to have a degree in an inherently dead field?"
> Inexplicably, I think the relationship ended soon after.
>
I wonder if she is still on the radio or if she ever gets to conduct operas?

-B





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'Ascension Island' - nice :)

Greg

  New music:
http://www.soundclick.com/greghurley




________________________________
From: Darrell Burgan <dburga01@...>
To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:05:51 AM
Subject: [differentskies] New Release by Different Skies' own Joe McMahon


Joe McMahon has released a collection of experimental electronic ambient
compositions called "Ocean Music" on Earth Mantra. It is a seriously great album
and I encourage everyone to give it a download:

http://earthmantra. com/oceanmusic

Like all Earth Mantra releases, it is free for the downloading.




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Yea that one too. Hell, they're all bitchin. Listened to the whole thing
twice today and I'm really getting off.

I'm really liking the way you can listen to the catalog now. For some reason
the stream doesn't choke like it did before. I'm on my computer most of the
day  now and at any given time I may have two, three and sometimes four apps
open at the same time. I listen to SS a lot and sometimes the audio stutters
or gets chopped for a few seconds. Today I started listening to the EM
catalog and there is no  problem at all. Listened to Altus and now Haven.
Everyone here has such wonderful vision and execution. I'm really humbled to
be included in such esteemed company.



fog

.

From: differentskies@yahoogroups.com [mailto:differentskies@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Greg Hurley
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:20 PM
To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [differentskies] New Release by Different Skies' own Joe
McMahon



'Ascension Island' - nice :)

Greg

New music:
http://www.soundcli <http://www.soundclick.com/greghurley> ck.com/greghurley

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From: Darrell Burgan <dburga01@yahoo. <mailto:dburga01%40yahoo.com> com>
To: differentskies@ <mailto:differentskies%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:05:51 AM
Subject: [differentskies] New Release by Different Skies' own Joe McMahon

Joe McMahon has released a collection of experimental electronic ambient
compositions called "Ocean Music" on Earth Mantra. It is a seriously great
album and I encourage everyone to give it a download:

http://earthmantra. com/oceanmusic

Like all Earth Mantra releases, it is free for the downloading.

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Thx to Joe for creating this sonic masterpiece and to Darrell for releasing it
at EarthMantra.
this is another excellent addition to my music collection.
i have only listened to it once so far, and will have to listen to it again a
few more times before i decide whether it's "fantastic" or simply "wonderful" :)
 
EM FTW!
 


--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Darrell Burgan <dburga01@...> wrote:


From: Darrell Burgan <dburga01@...>
Subject: [differentskies] New Release by Different Skies' own Joe McMahon
To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 11:05 AM






Joe McMahon has released a collection of experimental electronic ambient
compositions called "Ocean Music" on Earth Mantra. It is a seriously great album
and I encourage everyone to give it a download:

http://earthmantra. com/oceanmusic

Like all Earth Mantra releases, it is free for the downloading.



















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Bill Fox wrote:
>
>
> Brian Good wrote:
>  > Years ago I dated a woman who was a DJ on the local classical station,
>  > and had a degree in opera conducting from IU. At one point I asked her,
>  > "So what's it like to have a degree in an inherently dead field?"
>  > Inexplicably, I think the relationship ended soon after.
>  >
> I wonder if she is still on the radio or if she ever gets to conduct operas?
>
> -B

She left the station, married a good guy and started a family. I think
she still does voice-overs for commercials once in awhile.

Brian

--- In differentskies@yahoogroups.com, Jeannie Allen <earthgirlvibes@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Allen and Ivan, good to know. I thought a headset mic sounded cool since I
need both hands to play instruments and I'm not exactly super coordinated.
>
> But after seeing the investment that takes, I'm going to stay with a gooseneck
mic. Or I could just work on *not* bumping into a regular mic stand I guess :-)
Thanks
>

You can always get a wired headset mic.  Just have to remember you've got it on
when you try to walk off stage...

;-)

Jonathan Mills wrote:

> Good afternoon, DS'ers,
>
> I have been working on a piece for the entire DS orchestra
> and even those who cannot attend but who can send me an MP3
> clip to inject at the proper time. (I'm bringing a Roland
> Sonic Cell this year.) Jim Combs, you could do your special
> syncopated shakin' and rattlin', and Klimchak you might
> contribute the cool Marimba Lumina doing hang drums.

It would be better if we could kidnap Jim for the concert. He makes up
for those of us who are charisma-challenged.

> This piece is derived from the 1984 FermiLab timeline of the
> universe from the Big Bang to Now. It goes a bit further by
> including a period of silence before the Big Bang to represent
> the unknowable; the singularity. It also may be bad physics
> but acceptable music to trigger the switches to expanded
> groups and/or styles of performances with "Little Bangs" that
> will, hopefully, reduce or remove the need for a conductor.

This is going to give you a bass-ackwards musical structure. I mean, all
the good stuff (the bang, early inflation) happens right at the
beginning. It's been pretty boring and anticlimactic ever since.

> (And didn't Brian just say that the orchestra ignores the
> conductor anyway? ;-)

Not always. Sometimes they throw things.

> This one is intended for everybody. I hope you will enjoy it!

Somewhere I think I have some sound files that are sonifications of some
Hubble images, done using Metasynth. I can throw those into the mix, if
I can find them, and you're interested.

Brian

--- In differentskies@yahoogroups.com, Brian Good <bsgood@...> wrote:
>
> She left the station, married a good guy and started a family. I think
> she still does voice-overs for commercials once in awhile.
>

And still has a rise in blood pressure when she remembers a comment from a
certain ex-boyfriend musician...

"The piano ain't got no wrong notes."

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