Music; the division of sound into organized and chaotic noise.

Hey Tim

Glad to hear that your cataloging efforts are going well....
Regarding the tree, how do I figure in?.....I've lost track of who's
doing what and in what order......I'll be happy to do whatever is
needed, if I only knew what that was......

Rus/Una



--- In differentskies@yahoogroups.com, Tim Walters <walters@d...>
wrote:
> I'm getting along nicely with cataloguing the audio material and
> burning CDs. Here's the tree I have set up:
>
> Paul N.
> --Nick
> --Otso
>
> Paul V.
> --Chris
> --Clark
>
> Doug W.
> --Rus
> --Dave
>
> Greg
> --James
> --Bill
>
> Jim Combs
> --Giles
> --Brian
>
> If any of you intermediaries can't perform your duties, or if I've
> missed somebody (Mike already has a copy), please let me know ASAP.
I'm
> hoping to drop them in the mail on Monday.
>
> There are some occasional dropouts in the audio. David and I have
yet
> to determine if they're in the master copy or if they somehow got
> created during the transfer. It's not enough to be a problem for
> auditioning, or worth fixing for anything but "keeper" material,
but
> Paul, you should bear it in mind for your project. I'll send you
the
> discs regardless.

For those DS attendees who have been ensnared by the evil machinations of our
resident Finnish drug pusher: there is now a Finnish grocery exporter that has
been cleared by the FDA to send many of their products to the USA, including
most of the 30 kinds of salmiakki they offer. These include all manner of
salmiakki, from the relatively inoffensive big chewy ones to the unbelievably
obnoxious Xylitol Super Salmiakki that make you feel like someone poured Drano
up your nose and lit it (Otso, does "Liiallisella käytöllä voi olla
laksatiivisia vaikutuksia" mean what I THINK it means?) and everything in
between, including 2.2 kg bags of the stuff.

Please contact me (offlist, unless there's a need for list-based hilarity on
the subject) about putting together a group buy, or talking me out of
developing a really expensive addiction.

mike

--
That's the problem with this analogue stuff: it goes clumpy. (n. rothwell)
> < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > <
metlay / atomic city / metlay@... / http://www.atomiccity.com

On 2.11.2004, at 21:00, Mike Metlay wrote:

> For those DS attendees who have been ensnared by the evil machinations
> of our
> resident Finnish drug pusher: there is now a Finnish grocery exporter
> that has
> been cleared by the FDA to send many of their products to the USA,
> including
> most of the 30 kinds of salmiakki they offer.

Hooray! :-)

> These include all manner of
> salmiakki, from the relatively inoffensive big chewy ones to the
> unbelievably
> obnoxious Xylitol Super Salmiakki that make you feel like someone
> poured Drano
> up your nose and lit it (Otso, does "Liiallisella käytöllä voi olla
> laksatiivisia vaikutuksia" mean what I THINK it means?)

Yes it does! "Overuse may cause laxative side effects" ...

Otso

Rus Foster wrote:

> Glad to hear that your cataloging efforts are going well....
> Regarding the tree, how do I figure in?.....

Doug W. is your source, so make sure he has your address. I dropped the
CDs (and DVDs, in Paul V.'s case) in the mail this morning.

--
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Free exquisite music
http://www.doubtfulpalace.com

Here are my notes on the audio contents. There are still lots of unknown
items, and probably many mistakes, so I'm starting this thread for
collective editing. Please reply only with corrections.

This info is also on the fourth CD of each batch, along with David's notes.

------------------------

001 01:
0:00-1:10: test tone
Soundcheck sorta-jams:
	 1:10-20:00: Shalmaneser and friends
	 22:20-27:28: Paul N., Tim, others?
	 27:45-37:20: several folks
38:45-46:00: rhythms (Paul N.?) in right channel
46:15-48:28: test tones
48:28-end: various soundchecking

001 02:
2:35-1:40:45: jam (beware loud noise ~31:00)
1:40:55-2:29:20: jam

002 01:
0:00-46:00: Rehearsal Wars! (several things happening at once,
intermittently entertaining)
46:00-end: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)

002 02:
3:15-9:40: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)
10:10-20:42: small group jam, Crimsonesque guitar figures w/hand
percussion and Rhodesy keys
20:42-1:23:48: Another jam, begins with guitar and percussion again, but
all join in
1:24:15-end: small group jam

003 01:
0:00-end: jam

003 02:
0:00-35:05: jam

003 03:
2:25-26:34: Ozone Player rehearsal (Sprawl)

003 04:
2:50-17:10: Ozone Player rehearsal (She Moved...)
21:40-end: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)

004 01:
0:00-21:15: LEO/MJL?
24:00-35:30: Broken Symmetry rehearsal
40:20-1:09:00: Mutation Vector rehearsal
1:20:20-end: synth solo, develops into jam

005 01:
0:58-10:10: Broken Symmetry rehearsal
12:10-end: more Broken Symmetry rehearsal

005 02:
0:00-6:00: fiddling about (incl. "Day Tripper", "Shine On..."), gradually
turning into...
6:00-38:00: Mutation Vector rehearsal
39:00-end: "Divine Wind" rehearsal

005 03:
1:35-9:00: rhythm (Dept. S rehearsal?)
9:00-14:25: "Love Shack"
14:25-16:00: "Love Shack" jam
16:00-19:45: very loose jamming/soundchecking
19:45-28:25: one of the Penalty Box combos, applause at end
28:25-45:55: same combo, I think
46:30-47:25: jam destroyed by failed sync
48:15-1:00:42: jam
1:00:42-end: soundchecking/jamming

006 01:
6:45-16:40: "Arcs and Angles" rehearsal
19:00-28:25: another take of A&A
32:00-end: don't know

006 02:
0:00-7:00: Dept. S?
7:00-20:00: demonstrations for students; no mike on Mike, lots of silence
20:00-21:30: Mike introducing Steve
21:30-23:40: Steve's performance
24:25-26:00: Giles demo
26:00-28:20: Chris demo
28:20-29:50: Paul N. demo
29:50-32:35: Nick demo
32:35-35:30: Rus demo
35:30-36:45: Clark demo
36:45-41:15: Paul V. demo
41:15-42:35: Brian demo
42:35-44:50: jam intro
44:50-52:10: jam
52:10-52:40: closing remarks
53:53-1:01:15: "Ain't No Sunshine...", "Blinded By Science", "Axel F",
"Rockford Files", "Room 222", "Odd Couple", "Andy Griffith", "Addams
Family", baseball game organ
1:01:15-end: Ozone Player foolage

006 03:
1:00-14:35: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)
17:20-25:23: Ozone Player rehearsal (Sprawl)
26:45-33:45: Ozone Player rehearsal (She Moved...)

006 04:
4:00-20:08: all-star jam with Dept. S elements
20:20-23:25: sequency stuff
24:20-36:10: Dept. S rehearsal
37:45-49:25: Dept. S rehearsal
50:20-end: don't know

007 01:
00:00-19:00: Wire and Impact rehearsal
21:55-25:54: don't know
27:10-end: don't know

007 02:
--Friday night--
0:58-15:10: jam ("disco")
16:27-38:30: jam ("pastorale")
39:20: "Chopsticks"

007 03:
--Friday night--
0:20-6:11: Broken Symmetry
8:00-15:30: don't know, very rhythmic with guitarist
16:53-24:30: don't know, very mellow with sax
27:28-50:50: Mutation Vector
52:59-end: Ma Ja Le + ?

007 04:
--Friday Night--
0:00-10:35: Paul N., Nick & ?
11:50-17:58: Paul N., Nick & Tim
18:45-25:04: Paul N., Nick & ?
26:45-39:35: PN&?
41:35-50:16: PN&?
51:30-end: all-star jam

008 01:
3:00-4:33: Mike intro to Saturday afternoon performance
4:40-9:00: Ozone Player (Sprawl)
9:00-10:00: Mike introduces Mutation Vector
10:00-16:35: Mutation Vector (Pillager)
16:45-19:05: Mike explains AirSynth, theremin, introduces Dept. S
19:05-33:40: Dept. S, guests enter one by one
33:40-34:20: Mike outro

009-01:
0:00-11:08: LEO/MJL rehearsal?
11:08-20:30: silence, occasional twiddling
20:30-32:35: Ma Ja Le/Una Voce rehearsal?
32:40-42:40: silence, twiddling, false starts
42:40-49:25: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)
49:25-52:45: downtime
52:45-59:30: Ozone Player rehearsal (She Moved...)
59:30-1:01:40: downtime
1:01:40-1:09:52: Ozone Player rehearsal (Sprawl)
1:09:52-1:12:10: downtime
1:12:10-end: Mutation Vector rehearsal

010-01:
--S-A, T-U-R, D-A-Y, NIGHT!--
0:40-9:25: Arcs and Angles
9:25-10:27: Mike speech, intro to Mutation Vector
10:50-17:10: Mutation Vector (Ancient Path)
18:05-25:45: Mutation Vector (Procession)
26:45-33:20: Mutation Vector (Pillager)
34:28-38:35: Ozone Player (The Sprawl)
38:45-45:55: Ozone Player (She Moved Through The Fair)
46:55-52:55: Ozone Player (Whatever Happened To The Emperor's Old Clothes?)

010-02:
--Saturday Night--
0:27-8:50: Abstract Dinner Theatre
9:00-16:11: Abstract Dinner Theatre
16:54-28:43: Low Earth Orbit/Ma Ja Le
30:00-37:53: Phosphene Grid (Divine Wind)
39:15-49:35: Department S (Jone)
50:55-1:05:15: Ma Ja Le/Una Voce
1:07:25-1:21:35: Wire And Impact

010-03:
--Saturday Night--
0:15-21:25: jam the first
21:50-31:20: jam the second ("hit it, Paul")
31:30-1:01:30: jam the third ("Hiroshima, Mon Amour")

--
THE DOUBTFUL PALACE
Free exquisite music
http://www.doubtfulpalace.com

Awesome!

Anticipating angular algorythmic angina attacks.

-Jim

>
> From: "Tim Walters" <walters@...>
> Date: 2004/11/02 Tue PM 04:56:52 EST
> To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [differentskies] Re: Status Report
>
>


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Uh, what is Salmiakki? Inquiring minds want to know!


On Nov 2, 2004, at 11:00 AM, Mike Metlay wrote:

> For those DS attendees who have been ensnared by the evil machinations
> of our
>  resident Finnish drug pusher: there is now a Finnish grocery exporter
> that has
>  been cleared by the FDA to send many of their products to the USA,
> including
>  most of the 30 kinds of salmiakki they offer. These include all
> manner of
>  salmiakki, from the relatively inoffensive big chewy ones to the
> unbelievably
>  obnoxious Xylitol Super Salmiakki that make you feel like someone
> poured Drano
>  up your nose and lit it (Otso, does "Liiallisella käytöllä voi olla
>  laksatiivisia vaikutuksia" mean what I THINK it means?) and
> everything in
>  between, including 2.2 kg bags of the stuff.
>
>  Please contact me (offlist, unless there's a need for list-based
> hilarity on
>  the subject) about putting together a group buy, or talking me out of
>  developing a really expensive addiction.
>
>  mike
>
>  --
>  That's the problem with this analogue stuff: it goes clumpy. (n.
> rothwell)
>  > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < >
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Heather Perkins said:
>
> Uh, what is Salmiakki? Inquiring minds want to know!

Salmiakki is ammonium chloride, the active ingredient in the candy of the same
name, popular in Finland (and in Norway and Sweden, where it's called
"salmiak"). It comes in many varieties, but most are variants on a theme:
small black chewy candies that are made with a combination of conventional
licorice and salmiakki. Some are filled with pure salmiakki powder in the
center for extra kick, some are made with xylitol to help prevent tooth decay,
some are sugar-coated or otherwise sweetened, some are harder or softer, and
the very softest come in special shapes for little kids; the "real thing" is
usually scooped from bins at tobacconists' shops and sold in little paper bags
by the gram.

There's no real way to describe salmiakki's taste. It's like licorice gone
horribly wrong. Perhaps the scariest thing about it is how addictive it
becomes once you've tried it a few times. I mean, it ain't heroin, but it does
worry me that one can develop a hankering for a candy that feels like
roto-rooting your sinuses.

mike

--
That's the problem with this analogue stuff: it goes clumpy. (n. rothwell)
> < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > <
metlay / atomic city / metlay@... / http://www.atomiccity.com

Wow!  So, does it have, like, you know, "properties"?  Sounds like
candyfied poppers or something.  And perhaps not so good for you? Not
that I am Nancy Regean all of a sudden, but wow, that sounds hard core!

Here's what a quick Google turned up on ammonium chloride:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
Label Hazard Warning:
   WARNING! CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT.
HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED.

Label Precautions:
   Avoid contact with eyes, skin and clothing.
   Avoid breathing dust.
   Wash thoroughly after handling.
   Keep container closed.
   Use only with adequate ventilation.

Label First Aid:
   In case of contact, immediately flush eyes or skin with plenty of
water for at least 15 minutes. Remove contaminated clothing and shoes.
Wash clothing before reuse. If inhaled, remove to fresh air. If not
breathing, give artificial respiration. If breathing is difficult, give
oxygen. If swallowed, induce vomiting immediately as directed by
medical personnel. Never give anything by mouth to an unconscious
person. In all cases, get medical attention.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------

Makes Absinthe seem positively innocent.... mmmmm.... Now,
Absinthe....that would be fun!


- H


> On Nov 2, 2004, at 2:41 PM, Mike Metlay wrote:
>
>  Salmiakki is ammonium chloride, the active ingredient in the candy of
> the same
>  name, popular in Finland (and in Norway and Sweden, where it's called
>  "salmiak"). It comes in many varieties, but most are variants on a
> theme:
>  small black chewy candies that are made with a combination of
> conventional
>  licorice and salmiakki. Some are filled with pure salmiakki powder in
> the
>  center for extra kick, some are made with xylitol to help prevent
> tooth decay,
>  some are sugar-coated or otherwise sweetened, some are harder or
> softer, and
>  the very softest come in special shapes for little kids; the "real
> thing" is
>  usually scooped from bins at tobacconists' shops and sold in little
> paper bags
>  by the gram.
>
>  There's no real way to describe salmiakki's taste. It's like licorice
> gone
>  horribly wrong. Perhaps the scariest thing about it is how addictive
> it
>  becomes once you've tried it a few times. I mean, it ain't heroin,
> but it does
>  worry me that one can develop a hankering for a candy that feels like
>  roto-rooting your sinuses.
>
>  mike
>
>  --
>  That's the problem with this analogue stuff: it goes clumpy. (n.
> rothwell)
>  > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < >
> <
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> > (Otso, does "Liiallisella käytöllä voi olla
> > laksatiivisia vaikutuksia" mean what I THINK it means?)

> Yes it does! "Overuse may cause laxative side effects" ...

Ooh - a cool foreign-language disclaimer for my next album.

--

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Mike Metlay wrote:
> Heather Perkins said:
>>
>> Uh, what is Salmiakki? Inquiring minds want to know!
>
> Salmiakki is ammonium chloride, the active ingredient in the candy of
> the same name, popular in Finland (and in Norway and Sweden, where
> it's called "salmiak"). It comes in many varieties, but most are
> variants on a theme: small black chewy candies that are made with a
> combination of conventional licorice and salmiakki. Some are filled
> with pure salmiakki powder in the center for extra kick, some are
> made with xylitol to help prevent tooth decay, some are sugar-coated
> or otherwise sweetened, some are harder or softer, and the very
> softest come in special shapes for little kids; the "real thing" is
> usually scooped from bins at tobacconists' shops and sold in little
> paper bags by the gram.
>
> There's no real way to describe salmiakki's taste. It's like licorice
> gone horribly wrong. Perhaps the scariest thing about it is how
> addictive it becomes once you've tried it a few times. I mean, it
> ain't heroin, but it does worry me that one can develop a hankering
> for a candy that feels like roto-rooting your sinuses.

In the Netherlands and Belgium it's called "drop". Everybody knows what it
is, most people like it, and kids love it. You can buy it almost everywhere,
and in hundreds of different varieties.

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

Heather Perkins said:
>
> Wow!  So, does it have, like, you know, "properties"?  Sounds like
> candyfied poppers or something.  And perhaps not so good for you? Not
> that I am Nancy Regean all of a sudden, but wow, that sounds hard core!

Nah, it's not that powerful in a medicinal sense. Think high-yield menthol /
eucalyptus cough drops for something equivalently potent (but with an entirely
different flavor).

> Makes Absinthe seem positively innocent.... mmmmm.... Now,
> Absinthe....that would be fun!

Come visit me in Boulder, madam. There's a legal, licensed absinthe den here,
if you really want to feed your brains to the green dragon...

mike

--
That's the problem with this analogue stuff: it goes clumpy. (n. rothwell)
> < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > <
metlay / atomic city / metlay@... / http://www.atomiccity.com

Otso Pakarinen wrote:

> Yes it does! "Overuse may cause laxative side effects" ...

Oh goody.  Vulcan laxative techniques weren't working for Mike.
Sometimes, he's just wound too tight!  ;-)

Cheers,

Bill

>Otso Pakarinen wrote:
>
>>  Yes it does! "Overuse may cause laxative side effects" ...
>
>Oh goody.  Vulcan laxative techniques weren't working for Mike.
>Sometimes, he's just wound too tight!  ;-)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bill

Didn't he just say something about liking roto-rooters?

Thank you very much, Tim.  Eventually I will be able to give you time of day for
most of these segments.  That's burned on the tape but I cannot read it without
an analog monitor connected to the recorder (!).  Will do so at some point.

dt
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Tim Walters
   To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:01 PM
   Subject: [differentskies] Audio Catalog


   Here are my notes on the audio contents. There are still lots of unknown
   items, and probably many mistakes, so I'm starting this thread for
   collective editing. Please reply only with corrections.

   This info is also on the fourth CD of each batch, along with David's notes.

   ------------------------

   001 01:
   0:00-1:10: test tone
   Soundcheck sorta-jams:
         1:10-20:00: Shalmaneser and friends
         22:20-27:28: Paul N., Tim, others?
         27:45-37:20: several folks
   38:45-46:00: rhythms (Paul N.?) in right channel
   46:15-48:28: test tones
   48:28-end: various soundchecking

   001 02:
   2:35-1:40:45: jam (beware loud noise ~31:00)
   1:40:55-2:29:20: jam

   002 01:
   0:00-46:00: Rehearsal Wars! (several things happening at once,
   intermittently entertaining)
   46:00-end: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)

   002 02:
   3:15-9:40: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)
   10:10-20:42: small group jam, Crimsonesque guitar figures w/hand
   percussion and Rhodesy keys
   20:42-1:23:48: Another jam, begins with guitar and percussion again, but
   all join in
   1:24:15-end: small group jam

   003 01:
   0:00-end: jam

   003 02:
   0:00-35:05: jam

   003 03:
   2:25-26:34: Ozone Player rehearsal (Sprawl)

   003 04:
   2:50-17:10: Ozone Player rehearsal (She Moved...)
   21:40-end: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)

   004 01:
   0:00-21:15: LEO/MJL?
   24:00-35:30: Broken Symmetry rehearsal
   40:20-1:09:00: Mutation Vector rehearsal
   1:20:20-end: synth solo, develops into jam

   005 01:
   0:58-10:10: Broken Symmetry rehearsal
   12:10-end: more Broken Symmetry rehearsal

   005 02:
   0:00-6:00: fiddling about (incl. "Day Tripper", "Shine On..."), gradually
   turning into...
   6:00-38:00: Mutation Vector rehearsal
   39:00-end: "Divine Wind" rehearsal

   005 03:
   1:35-9:00: rhythm (Dept. S rehearsal?)
   9:00-14:25: "Love Shack"
   14:25-16:00: "Love Shack" jam
   16:00-19:45: very loose jamming/soundchecking
   19:45-28:25: one of the Penalty Box combos, applause at end
   28:25-45:55: same combo, I think
   46:30-47:25: jam destroyed by failed sync
   48:15-1:00:42: jam
   1:00:42-end: soundchecking/jamming

   006 01:
   6:45-16:40: "Arcs and Angles" rehearsal
   19:00-28:25: another take of A&A
   32:00-end: don't know

   006 02:
   0:00-7:00: Dept. S?
   7:00-20:00: demonstrations for students; no mike on Mike, lots of silence
   20:00-21:30: Mike introducing Steve
   21:30-23:40: Steve's performance
   24:25-26:00: Giles demo
   26:00-28:20: Chris demo
   28:20-29:50: Paul N. demo
   29:50-32:35: Nick demo
   32:35-35:30: Rus demo
   35:30-36:45: Clark demo
   36:45-41:15: Paul V. demo
   41:15-42:35: Brian demo
   42:35-44:50: jam intro
   44:50-52:10: jam
   52:10-52:40: closing remarks
   53:53-1:01:15: "Ain't No Sunshine...", "Blinded By Science", "Axel F",
   "Rockford Files", "Room 222", "Odd Couple", "Andy Griffith", "Addams
   Family", baseball game organ
   1:01:15-end: Ozone Player foolage

   006 03:
   1:00-14:35: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)
   17:20-25:23: Ozone Player rehearsal (Sprawl)
   26:45-33:45: Ozone Player rehearsal (She Moved...)

   006 04:
   4:00-20:08: all-star jam with Dept. S elements
   20:20-23:25: sequency stuff
   24:20-36:10: Dept. S rehearsal
   37:45-49:25: Dept. S rehearsal
   50:20-end: don't know

   007 01:
   00:00-19:00: Wire and Impact rehearsal
   21:55-25:54: don't know
   27:10-end: don't know

   007 02:
   --Friday night--
   0:58-15:10: jam ("disco")
   16:27-38:30: jam ("pastorale")
   39:20: "Chopsticks"

   007 03:
   --Friday night--
   0:20-6:11: Broken Symmetry
   8:00-15:30: don't know, very rhythmic with guitarist
   16:53-24:30: don't know, very mellow with sax
   27:28-50:50: Mutation Vector
   52:59-end: Ma Ja Le + ?

   007 04:
   --Friday Night--
   0:00-10:35: Paul N., Nick & ?
   11:50-17:58: Paul N., Nick & Tim
   18:45-25:04: Paul N., Nick & ?
   26:45-39:35: PN&?
   41:35-50:16: PN&?
   51:30-end: all-star jam

   008 01:
   3:00-4:33: Mike intro to Saturday afternoon performance
   4:40-9:00: Ozone Player (Sprawl)
   9:00-10:00: Mike introduces Mutation Vector
   10:00-16:35: Mutation Vector (Pillager)
   16:45-19:05: Mike explains AirSynth, theremin, introduces Dept. S
   19:05-33:40: Dept. S, guests enter one by one
   33:40-34:20: Mike outro

   009-01:
   0:00-11:08: LEO/MJL rehearsal?
   11:08-20:30: silence, occasional twiddling
   20:30-32:35: Ma Ja Le/Una Voce rehearsal?
   32:40-42:40: silence, twiddling, false starts
   42:40-49:25: Ozone Player rehearsal (Emperor)
   49:25-52:45: downtime
   52:45-59:30: Ozone Player rehearsal (She Moved...)
   59:30-1:01:40: downtime
   1:01:40-1:09:52: Ozone Player rehearsal (Sprawl)
   1:09:52-1:12:10: downtime
   1:12:10-end: Mutation Vector rehearsal

   010-01:
   --S-A, T-U-R, D-A-Y, NIGHT!--
   0:40-9:25: Arcs and Angles
   9:25-10:27: Mike speech, intro to Mutation Vector
   10:50-17:10: Mutation Vector (Ancient Path)
   18:05-25:45: Mutation Vector (Procession)
   26:45-33:20: Mutation Vector (Pillager)
   34:28-38:35: Ozone Player (The Sprawl)
   38:45-45:55: Ozone Player (She Moved Through The Fair)
   46:55-52:55: Ozone Player (Whatever Happened To The Emperor's Old Clothes?)

   010-02:
   --Saturday Night--
   0:27-8:50: Abstract Dinner Theatre
   9:00-16:11: Abstract Dinner Theatre
   16:54-28:43: Low Earth Orbit/Ma Ja Le
   30:00-37:53: Phosphene Grid (Divine Wind)
   39:15-49:35: Department S (Jone)
   50:55-1:05:15: Ma Ja Le/Una Voce
   1:07:25-1:21:35: Wire And Impact

   010-03:
   --Saturday Night--
   0:15-21:25: jam the first
   21:50-31:20: jam the second ("hit it, Paul")
   31:30-1:01:30: jam the third ("Hiroshima, Mon Amour")

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Brian Good wrote:
>  >Otso Pakarinen wrote:
>>
>>>   Yes it does! "Overuse may cause laxative side effects" ...
>>
>>Oh goody.  Vulcan laxative techniques weren't working for Mike.
>>Sometimes, he's just wound too tight!  ;-)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Bill
>
>Didn't he just say something about liking roto-rooters?

I love you guys. Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go.

mike

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and pounding on your controller, wearing only a tattered bathrobe
and reeking of scotch...                              (m. oconnor)
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metlay@... *                  * http://www.atomiccity.com

Heather wrote:
> Here's what a quick Google turned up on ammonium chloride:
> Label Hazard Warning:
>   WARNING! CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT.
> HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED.

Naah, it's harmless. We used to make ammonium chloride in the chemistry
class when I was a kid, and eat some of it. Tasted like salmiakki
without the licorice and sugar.

> Makes Absinthe seem positively innocent.... mmmmm.... Now,
> Absinthe....that would be fun! by the gram.

Absinthe with Salmiakki Koskenkorva (the salmiakki liquor) could be
even more fun! Gotta try it someday...

Gert wrote:
> In the Netherlands and Belgium it's called "drop". Everybody knows
> what it
> is, most people like it, and kids love it. You can buy it almost
> everywhere,
> and in hundreds of different varieties.

Good for you! Is "drop" the English translation? If so, what is it
called in Dutch?

Otso

Otso Pakarinen wrote:
>
> Gert wrote:
>> In the Netherlands and Belgium it's called "drop". Everybody knows
>> what it
>> is, most people like it, and kids love it. You can buy it almost
>> everywhere,
>> and in hundreds of different varieties.
>
> Good for you! Is "drop" the English translation? If so, what is it
> called in Dutch?

Hehe... No, "drop" is not the English translation. It's the Dutch word.

:-)

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

Greetings Everyone,

Some of you may remember talking to a local reporter who was going to
cover Different Skies for Big Bug Canyon News.  Well, I got a
clipping from the Oct 13 issue from my mother yesterday (who lives in
Prescott, and came to the show of course) and I found an online copy
at the newspaper's website.  Go to www.bigbugnews.com and do an
article search on 'Different Skies' in the upper right of the page.
The article's title is "Space music wows Arcosanti audience and
students", written by Andrew Johnson-Schmit.  It's a nice article and
it includes an overhead pic of Bill, Greg and myself during the
Mutation Vector set, as well as a shot of Stephen Kelly (the rapper
dude).

Regards,
Dave B.

We appear to be "soccer dads", whatever that means.

	 -- N.

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Nick Rothwell said:
>
> We appear to be "soccer dads", whatever that means.

Well, there's my new .sig quote. :)

Nick, the term in the USA is usually "soccer mom", referring to a reasonably
well-off suburban parent who spends her time shuttling her kids to soccer
practice. This is interesting in this context for a couple of reasons.

One is the fact that the term "soccer mom" is well-accepted is an impressive
statement about how soccer, an essentially unknown sport in the USA as
recently as 20 years ago, has become quite entrenched in our culture (and not
yet totally destroyed by the big-media attention given baseball, football, and
basketball, and hockey...).

Another is that at least in my interpretation of the word, a soccer mom
doesn't work for a living; I wonder if he's implying that we're all
trust-fundies, or merely that this isn't our day gig? (I can't read the
article myself, the server's timing out on me. Maybe later.)

mike

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> Nick, the term in the USA is usually "soccer mom", referring to a reasonably
> well-off suburban parent who spends her time shuttling her kids to soccer
> practice.

That's what I thought - don't they all drive big 5-ton gas-guzzling
SUV's since it's not safe for their children to be out on their own?

Anyway, I thought they were "security moms" these days, fixated on the
perceived intangible terrorist threat from those parts of the world
producing the oil to fuel those SUV's.

(Don't get me started...)

	 -- N.

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I got the sense that "soccer dad" meant we were approachable, old enough to have
kids as opposed to
being kids ourselves, and dressed like we were standing around cheering the
team;^)

-Jim

>
> From: "Mike Metlay" <metlay@...>
> Date: 2004/11/04 Thu AM 11:58:52 EST
> To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [differentskies] Prescott Article
>
>


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If spacesuits had been worn per my suggestion this wouldn't be an issue. I
picked up a nasa flight suit for about $60 on ebay. A different skies mission
patch maybe is in order for next year.



On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 12:19:57 -0500, Jim Combs wrote
> I got the sense that "soccer dad" meant we were approachable, old
> enough to have kids as opposed to being kids ourselves, and dressed
> like we were standing around cheering the team;^)
>
> -Jim
>
> >
> > From: "Mike Metlay" <metlay@...>
> > Date: 2004/11/04 Thu AM 11:58:52 EST
> > To: differentskies@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [differentskies] Prescott Article
> >
> >
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Mike Metlay wrote:

> (I can't read the
> article myself, the server's timing out on me. Maybe later.)

For me too.  But I kept insisting and it eventually worked for me.  I
copied the URL from the popup window, closed the popup, and pasted the
address into a regular Internet Explorer to allow me to perform a
File->Save As.  Jim and/or Doug; I reccommend you do the same so we can
display the article on the web site... with the paper's permission, of
course.

Cheers,

Bill

jeff wrote:

> If spacesuits had been worn per my suggestion this wouldn't be an issue. I
> picked up a nasa flight suit for about $60 on ebay. A different skies
> mission
> patch maybe is in order for next year.

OOHHH YES!!!     I want a Different Skies mission patch!

Dave Brewer wrote:

> Some of you may remember talking to a local reporter who was going to
> cover Different Skies for Big Bug Canyon News.  Well, I got a
> clipping from the Oct 13 issue from my mother yesterday (who lives in
> Prescott, and came to the show of course) and I found an online copy
> at the newspaper's website.  Go to www.bigbugnews.com and do an
> article search on 'Different Skies' in the upper right of the page.
> The article's title is "Space music wows Arcosanti audience and
> students", written by Andrew Johnson-Schmit.  It's a nice article and
> it includes an overhead pic of Bill, Greg and myself during the
> Mutation Vector set, as well as a shot of Stephen Kelly (the rapper
> dude).

Thanks for the heads up.

Bill

It seems like their website can't handle much traffic (maybe that means >1
person :-) ).  I've had some problems too.  But I managed to save it off and
created an MS Word document of the article over lunch today.  If it's needed
for the website or whatever, I'd be happy to send it...Of course I won't send
it anywhere without the paper's permission.

Regards,
Dave B.

Quoting Bill Fox <billyfox@...>:

>
> Mike Metlay wrote:
>
> > (I can't read the
> > article myself, the server's timing out on me. Maybe later.)
>
> For me too.  But I kept insisting and it eventually worked for me.  I
> copied the URL from the popup window, closed the popup, and pasted the
> address into a regular Internet Explorer to allow me to perform a
> File->Save As.  Jim and/or Doug; I reccommend you do the same so we can
> display the article on the web site... with the paper's permission, of
> course.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
>

> If spacesuits had been worn per my suggestion this wouldn't be an
> issue. I picked up a nasa flight suit for about $60 on ebay.

If we all did this, we'd be able to do a convincing cover version of
Magic Fly.

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