Join me tonight for another edition of Blue Water Drift Dive, my live
ambient net radio program on StillStream.com:

- The show begins tonight, Sat Feb 3 at 11p ET (Sun Feb 4 at 4a GMT)
and lasts 4 hours

- Tonight we'll be playing a whole bunch of new music to StillStream,
including cuts from Coyote Oldman, Harold Budd, Jonn Serrie, Michael
Stearns and many others.

- There will be no live ambient train wreck tonight; however, we will
dig an oldie or two out of the StillStream vaults and play those
instead. Should be at least mildly entertaining!

- Tonight's longplay ambient feature will be Craig Padilla's
masterpiece Vostok in its entirety.

- There may be a pre-show live ambient warmup doodle if time permits.

- To listen: http://www.stillstream.com/listen.php

- To chat: http://www.stillstream.com/chat.php

Hope to see you there!

My family is actually jealous of Blue Water Drift Dive at this point,
but I'll try to be there for a little while. :)

mike


>Join me tonight for another edition of Blue Water Drift Dive, my live
>ambient net radio program on StillStream.com:
>
>- The show begins tonight, Sat Feb 3 at 11p ET (Sun Feb 4 at 4a GMT)
>and lasts 4 hours
>
>- Tonight we'll be playing a whole bunch of new music to StillStream,
>including cuts from Coyote Oldman, Harold Budd, Jonn Serrie, Michael
>Stearns and many others.
>
>- There will be no live ambient train wreck tonight; however, we will
>dig an oldie or two out of the StillStream vaults and play those
>instead. Should be at least mildly entertaining!
>
>- Tonight's longplay ambient feature will be Craig Padilla's
>masterpiece Vostok in its entirety.
>
>- There may be a pre-show live ambient warmup doodle if time permits.
>
>- To listen: http://www.stillstream.com/listen.php
>
>- To chat: http://www.stillstream.com/chat.php
>
>Hope to see you there!
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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Maybe this could be helpful when sharing audio / video from DS07.



dt



   _____



Pando: P2P file transfer application and subscription-based service for very
large packages (up to 50 GB)

" <http://www.pando.com/> Pando is a downloadable application that,
according to CEO Robert Levitan, was designed to 'help people share media
directly with other people.' In other words, this free downloadable
application facilitates 'super high quality, really really large file
transfer' in a way that's faster and more efficient than the file-transfer
features in e-mail and instant-messaging clients. Levitan especially
marketed it as a tool for the hot web-video market: send your home videos to
your family, for example. The revenue model is based on in-application
banners, embedded video ads, and a set of premium packages that were
recently launched."

Source:  <http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9682525-2.html?tag=blog> At
AlwaysOn, traditional media gets the scoop on what's new, Webware, January
30, 2007

Pando Publisher
"Sporting our fastest delivery speeds and our best features, Pando Publisher
is first-class file sharing. Features include:

No ads
50GB Packages (as opposed to 1GB)
Our fastest delivery
Files never expire!
Priority support queue (within 24 hours, Mon - Fri)
50GB of storage
100 email recipients at a time (free Pando is 10)
Your recipients can receive the larger Pando Packages you send at faster
speeds
Password protected Packages
Commercial use license"

Sending Packages
  <http://www.pando.com/files/Send_Window_lg.png> Pando.jpg

Receiving Packages
Pando2.jpg

Source:  <http://www.pando.com> www.pando.com, February 2, 2007

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Teapotters is the first 3D Community that let you share and publish your 3D
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"A new '3D community' has just been launched, with the unusual name of
Teapotters. The name comes from 3D pioneer Martin Newell, who created the
first free 3D model in 1974 - a teapot model. The site
<http://www.teapotters.com/> Teapotters.com aims to popularize 3D displays
and sharing across the Web - websites, social networks, blogs and more - via
a '3D widget.'"

teapotters.jpg

Source:  <http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/teapotters_3d_widgets.php>
Teapotters Wants To Be The YouTube of 3D, Read/WriteWeb, January 31, 2007

See also  <http://www.teapotters.com> http://www.teapotters.com

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Present for free with Spresent and a Web browser (SaaS)

"This online presentation service lets you quickly create decent
presentations that you can deliver from any computer with a Web browser.

  <http://www.spresent.com> Spresent competes with other online apps such as
Thumbstacks and Zoho Show [see comparison]. What sets Spresent apart is its
slick Flash-based user interface and tight integration with other Web
services. Need a picture of a mountain or an octopus to go along with your
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can also embed YouTube videos. When you're done with a presentation, you can
share it three ways: save and send the file to another Spresent user, e-mail
it as a self-playing file, or use the Embed link to put it on Web sites."

SPresent_270x181.jpg

Source:  <http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9667773-2.html?tag=blog> Present
for free with Spresent and a Web browser, Webware, December 12, 2006

See also  <http://www.spresent.com> http://www.spresent.com

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ConVisia Design Collaborator v1.2: Hosted Software facilitates real-time
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"ConVisia Design Collaborator v1.2 brings architects, engineers, and other
design professionals together with clients and other project team members
for design review and decision-making. In addition to delivering multiple
document collaborations, it provides tabbed interface to speed navigation of
open project drawings, arrows to focus meetings on specific locations within
design, and ability to upload, share, and save locally to variety of
formats.
...
-- Multiple document collaborations including the ability for a participant
to drop in a drawing during a real-time meeting.
-- A new tabbed interface for faster navigation of open project drawings.
-- Enhanced Multi-page PDF document support.
-- Arrows to focus meetings on specific locations within a design.
-- Dramatic performance enhancements to keep pace with a project team'
dynamic decision making.
-- The ability to upload, share and save locally to a variety of document
formats.
-- Enhanced speed in uploading, caching and downloading of large, complex
graphics files."

Source:  <http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/501688> Hosted Software
facilitates real-time collaboration, ThomasNet Industrial NewsRoom, December
21, 2006

See also  <http://www.convisia.com/> http://www.convisia.com

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On Feb 5, 2007, at 8:47 PM, David Tristram wrote:
> !!!
Shouldn't that be [glyph]?

"Best Super Bowl halftime show ever" is a pretty low bar, but the
Artist Formerly Known As "The Artist Formerly Known As 'Prince'"
cleared it with plenty to spare.

>!!!

He was wet and played some good solos. Purple Rain was frighteningly apropos.

mike

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Tim Walters wrote:

>On Feb 5, 2007, at 8:47 PM, David Tristram wrote:
>
>
>>!!!
>>
>>
>Shouldn't that be [glyph]?
>
>
He played Purple Rain in a Purple Haze.  Musically, he was far superior
to the Stones last year.  Still, TAFKATAFKNP creeps me out.

Cheers,

Bill

my thoughts exactly. The Stones were boring and tired. Prince was jacked up and
entertaining and i'm not even a big Prince fan although i thought Purple Rain
was the most bitchin' movie by a rock&roller since Help. One thing to consider
though is that Prince is considerably younger than any of the Stones. . . by
almost half. . . right?
However, for total "cool", it's hard to beat Charlie Watts.  : )
duval

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bill Fox <billyfox@...>
Tim Walters wrote:

>On Feb 5, 2007, at 8:47 PM, David Tristram wrote:
>
>
>>!!!
>>
>>
>Shouldn't that be [glyph]?
>
>
He played Purple Rain in a Purple Haze. Musically, he was far superior
to the Stones last year. Still, TAFKATAFKNP creeps me out.

Cheers,

Bill



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yea, how the hell do you put on that kinda show without getting electrocuted?
hahah  and as far as playing goes, that guy can play. . .still,  good grief,
most people can't play that good when their instrument is dry!!  i was
impressed. And in a freaking downpour?? for no other reason than that he should
get into the R&R hall of fame. hahaha   . . and no, don't get me into a
discussion as to the merits of the R&R hall of fame, my doc says i'm supposed to
take it easy.  LOL
duval

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From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City <metlay@...>
>!!!

He was wet and played some good solos. Purple Rain was frighteningly apropos.

mike

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John Duval wrote:
>However, for total "cool", it's hard to beat Charlie Watts.

For all intents and purposes, Watts IS the Rolling Stones. Both Mick and
Keef have said that if Charlie retires, the Stones are through. As a
non-Stones fan, that might not be a bad thing....

Phil

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At some point we are going to have to discuss how we are going to
record audio/video since I won't happen to be reviewing an ideal
audio interface then (or will I, Mike?).

John 3

--- David Tristram <david@...> wrote:

> Maybe this could be helpful when sharing audio / video from DS07.
>
>
>
> dt
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
>
> Pando: P2P file transfer application and subscription-based
> service for very
> large packages (up to 50 GB)
>
> " <http://www.pando.com/> Pando is a downloadable application
> that,
> according to CEO Robert Levitan, was designed to 'help people
> share media
> directly with other people.' In other words, this free
> downloadable
> application facilitates 'super high quality, really really large
> file
> transfer' in a way that's faster and more efficient than the
> file-transfer
> features in e-mail and instant-messaging clients. Levitan
> especially
> marketed it as a tool for the hot web-video market: send your
> home videos to
> your family, for example. The revenue model is based on
> in-application
> banners, embedded video ads, and a set of premium packages that
> were
> recently launched."
>
> Source:
> <http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9682525-2.html?tag=blog> At
> AlwaysOn, traditional media gets the scoop on what's new,
> Webware, January
> 30, 2007
>
> Pando Publisher
> "Sporting our fastest delivery speeds and our best features,
> Pando Publisher
> is first-class file sharing. Features include:
>
> No ads
> 50GB Packages (as opposed to 1GB)
> Our fastest delivery
> Files never expire!
> Priority support queue (within 24 hours, Mon - Fri)
> 50GB of storage
> 100 email recipients at a time (free Pando is 10)
> Your recipients can receive the larger Pando Packages you send at
> faster
> speeds
> Password protected Packages
> Commercial use license"
>
> Sending Packages
>  <http://www.pando.com/files/Send_Window_lg.png> Pando.jpg
>
> Receiving Packages
> Pando2.jpg
>
> Source:  <http://www.pando.com> www.pando.com, February 2, 2007
>
> Posted by Tarjin Rahman at 02:49 PM |
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> Teapotters is the first 3D Community that let you share and
> publish your 3D
> models with others
>
> "A new '3D community' has just been launched, with the unusual
> name of
> Teapotters. The name comes from 3D pioneer Martin Newell, who
> created the
> first free 3D model in 1974 - a teapot model. The site
> <http://www.teapotters.com/> Teapotters.com aims to popularize 3D
> displays
> and sharing across the Web - websites, social networks, blogs and
> more - via
> a '3D widget.'"
>
> teapotters.jpg
>
> Source:
> <http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/teapotters_3d_widgets.php>
> Teapotters Wants To Be The YouTube of 3D, Read/WriteWeb, January
> 31, 2007
>
> See also  <http://www.teapotters.com> http://www.teapotters.com
>
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> Present for free with Spresent and a Web browser (SaaS)
>
> "This online presentation service lets you quickly create decent
> presentations that you can deliver from any computer with a Web
> browser.
>
>  <http://www.spresent.com> Spresent competes with other online
> apps such as
> Thumbstacks and Zoho Show [see comparison]. What sets Spresent
> apart is its
> slick Flash-based user interface and tight integration with other
> Web
> services. Need a picture of a mountain or an octopus to go along
> with your
> bullet points? Spresent has built-in Flickr browsing, which pulls
> up
> previews and URLs without leaving the presentation-building
> experience. You
> can also embed YouTube videos. When you're done with a
> presentation, you can
> share it three ways: save and send the file to another Spresent
> user, e-mail
> it as a self-playing file, or use the Embed link to put it on Web
> sites."
>
> SPresent_270x181.jpg
>
> Source:
> <http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9667773-2.html?tag=blog>
> Present
> for free with Spresent and a Web browser, Webware, December 12,
> 2006
>
> See also  <http://www.spresent.com> http://www.spresent.com
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> ConVisia Design Collaborator v1.2: Hosted Software facilitates
> real-time
> collaboration (SaaS for AEC)
>
> "ConVisia Design Collaborator v1.2 brings architects, engineers,
> and other
> design professionals together with clients and other project team
> members
> for design review and decision-making. In addition to delivering
> multiple
> document collaborations, it provides tabbed interface to speed
> navigation of
> open project drawings, arrows to focus meetings on specific
> locations within
> design, and ability to upload, share, and save locally to variety
> of
> formats.
> ...
> -- Multiple document collaborations including the ability for a
> participant
> to drop in a drawing during a real-time meeting.
> -- A new tabbed interface for faster navigation of open project
> drawings.
> -- Enhanced Multi-page PDF document support.
> -- Arrows to focus meetings on specific locations within a
> design.
> -- Dramatic performance enhancements to keep pace with a project
> team'
> dynamic decision making.
> -- The ability to upload, share and save locally to a variety of
> document
> formats.
> -- Enhanced speed in uploading, caching and downloading of large,
> complex
> graphics files."
>
> Source:  <http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/501688> Hosted
> Software
> facilitates real-time collaboration, ThomasNet Industrial
> NewsRoom, December
> 21, 2006
>
> See also  <http://www.convisia.com/> http://www.convisia.com
>
> Posted by Tarjin Rahman at 11:41 AM |
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At 02:12 PM 2/6/2007, darkstr1746@... wrote:
>yea, how the hell do you put on that kinda show without getting electrocuted?

Wireless link = no high voltage connections. I was more amazed that
the keyboards kept working.


>... And in a freaking downpour?? for no other reason than that he
>should get into the R&R hall of fame. hahaha

The rain looks harder on TV due to the long lenses -- you are looking
through hundreds of feet of air, under lights bright enough to turn
night into day.


>  . . and no, don't get me into a discussion as to the merits of the
> R&R hall of fame, my doc says i'm supposed to take it easy.  LOL

Enough said!


And folks, how about the awesome FAMU marching band?!
http://www.famu.edu/oldsite/acad/colleges/cas/music/marching/html/home.html
--
john (mildly proud of Florida, for a change)

>yea, how the hell do you put on that kinda show without getting
>electrocuted? hahah

If I understand how these shows are done, everything and I mean
everything is wireless, even the instruments that don't move much or
at all. They do it that way so the stage can be set up in a big hurry
(it weighs many tons and must be moved into place in less than five
minutes), but in this case it also avoids electric shock risk. Rush
took advantage of the exact same setup in Brazil a couple of years
ago; they played for 60,000 people in a driving rainstorm because
they weren't able to stop the show without causing a riot.

mike

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ok, ok, i got the wireless thing . . i used to use wireless all the time years
ago but my questions wasn't focused enough. Water will eventualy get underneath
the pickguard of the guitar. Unless the pickups are epoxy sealed ti the body,
water will get into the hairline space between the body and the pickups. Also
through the spaces in the adjustable bridge and on and on. I guess my amazement
was directed more to the fact that the guitars didn't short out. Maybe there
just wasn't enought time elapsed for that to happen.
  And what about those keyboards?? hahah
I'm not asking for a technical printout  : )   just voicing amazement. And i
also realize that alot of the camera shorts accentuated the amount of rainfall
but there were a couple close in shots of the stage and you could see from the
drop splatter on the stage that it was coming down pretty good.
i'll shut up now.
duval

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From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City <metlay@...>
>yea, how the hell do you put on that kinda show without getting
>electrocuted? hahah

If I understand how these shows are done, everything and I mean
everything is wireless, even the instruments that don't move much or
at all. They do it that way so the stage can be set up in a big hurry
(it weighs many tons and must be moved into place in less than five
minutes), but in this case it also avoids electric shock risk. Rush
took advantage of the exact same setup in Brazil a couple of years
ago; they played for 60,000 people in a driving rainstorm because
they weren't able to stop the show without causing a riot.

mike

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I saw Fugazi play outdoors one time. A *pouring* rain started up;
they just threw a tarp over the board and kept going. Everybody
survived... but I wouldn't try it.

--- John Mahoney <jmahoney@...> wrote:
  I was more amazed
> that
> the keyboards kept working.
>

Actually, rain down here is pretty ph neutral, and unless it comes
off the water (which this rain didn't) it's also pretty ion free.
Keyboards work perfectly well drenched in distilled water.

John 3

Ibid,

John 3

--- darkstr1746@... wrote:

> ok, ok, i got the wireless thing . . i used to use wireless all
> the time years ago but my questions wasn't focused enough. Water
> will eventualy get underneath the pickguard of the guitar. Unless
> the pickups are epoxy sealed ti the body, water will get into the
> hairline space between the body and the pickups. Also through the
> spaces in the adjustable bridge and on and on. I guess my
> amazement was directed more to the fact that the guitars didn't
> short out. Maybe there just wasn't enought time elapsed for that
> to happen.
>  And what about those keyboards?? hahah
> I'm not asking for a technical printout  : )   just voicing
> amazement. And i also realize that alot of the camera shorts
> accentuated the amount of rainfall but there were a couple close
> in shots of the stage and you could see from the drop splatter on
> the stage that it was coming down pretty good.
> i'll shut up now.
> duval
>

Please join me tonight for a special edition of Blue Water Drift Dive,
my live ambient net radio program on StillStream.com!

- Tonight I have the pleasure of bringing to you another live concert
from symphonic ambient artist Kevin Fletcher Tweedy!  His last show
was a doozy, so don't miss this one.

- The show begins tonight, Sat Feb 10 at 11p ET (Sun Feb 11 at 4a GMT)
and lasts 4 hours

- There will be no live ambient train wreck tonight, but I will be
playing a couple of cuts from the brand new release of the Ambient
Train Wreck Series Volume 3 available on Blue Water Records
(http://bluewaterrecords.com)

- If time permits, there may be a pre-show ambient warmup doodle.

- In addition to the spectacular concert by Mr. Tweedy, we'll also be
playing some brand new music from Dino Pacifici, Gregg Plummer,
Michael O'Connell, and many other.

- To listen:  http://www.stillstream.com/listen.php

- To chat:  http://www.stillstream.com/chat.php

Hope to see you there!

Cheers,
Darrell

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now that's a reunion i'd pay to see, even though they were never favorites of
mine. But darn, for three guys they sure had good textures. . good songwriting
didn't hur either i'm sure.  LOL
duval

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John Duval wrote:
>But darn, for three guys they sure had good textures...

I've always been very afraid of playing in a trio like this, since the
bass usually has to fill in lots more than in, say, a quartet, which is
my usual band size. Just don't think I have the chops to pull it off.
Having said that, though, one of my funnest gigs was just that, a trio
playing blues and rockabilly and surf.

Phil

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I remember seeing them on the Synchronicity tour at "Day on the
Green".Sting was at the top of his game;playing fretless
bass,singing,keyboards,electric upright bass and topped off with some
amazing dancing(while playing fretless) I remember leaving thinking he
had to be one of the most beautiful and talented people on the
planet....
On Tuesday, February 13, 2007, at 08:39  AM, Phil Raymondo wrote:

> John Duval wrote:
> >But darn, for three guys they sure had good textures...
>
> I've always been very afraid of playing in a trio like this, since the
> bass usually has to fill in lots more than in, say, a quartet, which is
> my usual band size. Just don't think I have the chops to pull it off.
> Having said that, though, one of my funnest gigs was just that, a trio
> playing blues and rockabilly and surf.
>
> Phil
>
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>
>

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I regret to inform you that the Pinnacle and TriPod show at New Jersey
Proghouse has been cancelled.  Please rest assured that I will keep you
informed of future Pinnacle concerts.

Cheers,

Bill

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Pinnacle / TriPod show this Saturday CANCELLED
Date:  15 Feb 2007 14:16:18 -0800
From:  njproghouse@...
To:  billyfox@...


Folks-

the show this Saturday has been canceled.
We are without heat and plumbing and it looks to be that way for a good
week.
Nobody had bothered to keep the schoolhouse warmish while empty and the
cold did something bad.
Full refunds will be issued within 48 hours.

Greetings and salutations to all of you in my Different Skies family, old
friends, new friends, and friends still to be made. I would like to thank you
all for your support and friendship over the past months and years, and
parenthetically for letting me deal with Life between getting back from DS2k6
and now... I'm still not completely dug out yet, and mind3Spiral (April 7,
2007) is approaching rapidly, but I can wait no longer to ring the bell and
awaken the sleepers from their slumber....

In two weeks, sometime during the business day on March 1, 2007 (probably very
early in the day so that Europeans will be awake to see the announcement), I
will throw open the doors and take the first 20 registrants for Different
Skies 2007. Anyone who signs up after the first 20 will be placed on the
waiting list and taken in order as people on the Go list are forced to drop
out. I reserve the right to hold one or two places on the Go list for people
who have talked to me beforehand about providing concert support services not
directly related to onstage performance. (I know, that's kind of cryptic, but
I'll explain more when we get a bit closer to the time.)

For those of you who may have forgotten, DS 2k7 will begin with initial setup
on stage at Arcosanti on Sunday, October 14, 2007, and will conclude with a
public performance on Saturday night, October 20, to close out the Arcosanti
summer concert season. We will say our goodbyes the following day, Sunday the
21st. This is our fifth year (!) and I am looking forward to a wonderful
experience.

This is the latest we've ever done a DS. I apologize for that, but my own
schedule hit a "perfect storm" of conflicts involving work and family that
prevented my getting a week away without major problems for any week before
this one, stretching all the way back into early August. What this means in
practical terms is that Arcosanti will be pleasantly cool during the days and
quite cold at night. We're going to have to rent propane heaters for the
audience, and it would be wise to pack a bit warmer clothing than usual (and
maybe some fingerless gloves). Other than that, it's looking like the same
program: arrive, set up, write music, talk until all hours, rehearse, perform,
fall over. I can't wait.

Here's the list of folks who are currently eligible for DS attendance this year.

Dave Brewer
Darrell Burgan
John Christian
Jim Combs
Scott Drengsen
John Duval
Rus Foster
Bill Fox
Dave Fulton
Tony Gerber
John Goff
Brian Good
David Herpich
Chris Kuborn
Jeff Kunzelman
James Lacey
Dave Lovelace
Mark Mahoney
Chris Mandra
Joe McMahon
Neal Merrick
Mike Metlay
Howard Moscovitz
Dennis Moser
Skip Murphy
Paul Nagle
Craig Padilla
Otso Pakarinen
Jair-Rohm Parker Wells
Heather Perkins
Giles Reaves
Richard Roberts
John 3 Rossi
Nick Rothwell
Peter Ruczynski
Clark Salisbury
Gert van Santen
Ivan Schwartz
Christopher Short
Jesse Sola
Bill Stunt
Tim Thompson
David Tristram
Paul Vnuk Jr.
Tim Walters
Greg Waltzer
Hong Waltzer
Doug Wellington
Richard Wentk
Doug Wyatt

Anyone who feels they should be on this list but were omitted by accident, or
who wants to get on the list for this year, should contact me ASAP. There's
still time to get you qualified and set up before March.

One last note: the fee will be going up a little bit this year, probably to
$330 per performer. As usual, foreign attendees can wait to pay until they
arrive, to avoid transfer costs. I accept cash, personal checks, and PayPal
payments, although using the latter will make the fee slightly higher ($340)
to cover PayPal's fees. If you want to bring a spouse or other tantric
counterpart, you need to specify that when you sign up; be aware that spaces
for non-performers are not impossible to arrange, but do require a bit more
money for room and board  (total of $500 for two people) AND some advance
planning on my part (there are a limited number of rooms that are
couples-friendly, and they go fast).

As always, the forum is always open for discussion of the upcoming event, by
attendees and non-attendees alike.

Here we go again!

mike

--
"There is nothing like exposure to public ridicule
to galvanise the attention."   (robert fripp, 2001)
> < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < >
metlay / www.atomiccity.com / www.mindspiral.com / www.differentskies.com

Mike Metlay wrote:
>sometime during the business day on March 1, 2007
>I will throw open the doors and take the first 20 registrants
>for Different Skies 2007.
>As always, the forum is always open for discussion of the
>upcoming event, by attendees and non-attendees alike.
>Here we go again!

Whee! Now this list gets REALLY inneresting!

Phil

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Please join me tonight for another edition of Organbient Radio, a live
net radio program on www.stillstream.com ...

- The show begins tonight, Fri Feb 16 at 11p ET (Sat Feb 17 at 4a GMT)
and lasts 4 hours

- Tonight I will be sitting in for Scott Turner as host, but don't let
that stop you from tuning in!

- There will be one live ambient train wreck performed by yours truly.
Again, please don't let that stop you from tuning in. Wink

- We'll also be playing a veritable cornucopia of great ambient music,
from such artists as Rapoon, Loscil, The Tic Tok Men, and many others.

- To listen: http://www.stillstream.com/listen.php

- To chat: http://www.stillstream.com/chat.php

Hope to see you there!

Please join me tonight for another edition of Blue Water Drift Dive,
my live ambient net radio program on www.stillstream.com ...

- The show begins tonight, Sat Feb 17 at 11p ET (Sun Feb 18 at 4a GMT)
and lasts 4 hours.

- There will be no ambient train wreck this evening; however a
pre-show warmup doodle is likely.

- We'll be playing some great music from Ian Boddy, Austere, Chad
Hoefler, Green Hay & Stack, and many others.

- To listen:  http://www.stillstream.com/listen.php

- To chat:  http://www.stillstream.com/chat.php

Hope to see you there!

Here's the link to the current lineup. And yes, that IS Wolfie on the
far left. It's sorta spooky how much he looks like his pop did when he
was younger. And no, Dave is NOT wearing spandex.......yet.

http://www.vhnd.com/articles/070218-02.shtml


Rus

*waiting not so patiently*   ;-)

--- In differentskies@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Metlay" <metlay@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings and salutations to all of you in my Different Skies
family, old
> friends, new friends, and friends still to be made. I would like to
thank you
> all for your support and friendship over the past months and years, and
> parenthetically for letting me deal with Life between getting back
from DS2k6
> and now... I'm still not completely dug out yet, and mind3Spiral
(April 7,
> 2007) is approaching rapidly, but I can wait no longer to ring the
bell and
> awaken the sleepers from their slumber....
>
> In two weeks, sometime during the business day on March 1, 2007
(probably very
> early in the day so that Europeans will be awake to see the
announcement), I
> will throw open the doors and take the first 20 registrants for
Different
> Skies 2007. Anyone who signs up after the first 20 will be placed on the
> waiting list and taken in order as people on the Go list are forced
to drop
> out. I reserve the right to hold one or two places on the Go list
for people
> who have talked to me beforehand about providing concert support
services not
> directly related to onstage performance. (I know, that's kind of
cryptic, but
> I'll explain more when we get a bit closer to the time.)
>
> For those of you who may have forgotten, DS 2k7 will begin with
initial setup
> on stage at Arcosanti on Sunday, October 14, 2007, and will conclude
with a
> public performance on Saturday night, October 20, to close out the
Arcosanti
> summer concert season. We will say our goodbyes the following day,
Sunday the
> 21st. This is our fifth year (!) and I am looking forward to a wonderful
> experience.
>
> This is the latest we've ever done a DS. I apologize for that, but
my own
> schedule hit a "perfect storm" of conflicts involving work and
family that
> prevented my getting a week away without major problems for any week
before
> this one, stretching all the way back into early August. What this
means in
> practical terms is that Arcosanti will be pleasantly cool during the
days and
> quite cold at night. We're going to have to rent propane heaters for the
> audience, and it would be wise to pack a bit warmer clothing than
usual (and
> maybe some fingerless gloves). Other than that, it's looking like
the same
> program: arrive, set up, write music, talk until all hours,
rehearse, perform,
> fall over. I can't wait.
>
> Here's the list of folks who are currently eligible for DS
attendance this year.
>
> Dave Brewer
> Darrell Burgan
> John Christian
> Jim Combs
> Scott Drengsen
> John Duval
> Rus Foster
> Bill Fox
> Dave Fulton
> Tony Gerber
> John Goff
> Brian Good
> David Herpich
> Chris Kuborn
> Jeff Kunzelman
> James Lacey
> Dave Lovelace
> Mark Mahoney
> Chris Mandra
> Joe McMahon
> Neal Merrick
> Mike Metlay
> Howard Moscovitz
> Dennis Moser
> Skip Murphy
> Paul Nagle
> Craig Padilla
> Otso Pakarinen
> Jair-Rohm Parker Wells
> Heather Perkins
> Giles Reaves
> Richard Roberts
> John 3 Rossi
> Nick Rothwell
> Peter Ruczynski
> Clark Salisbury
> Gert van Santen
> Ivan Schwartz
> Christopher Short
> Jesse Sola
> Bill Stunt
> Tim Thompson
> David Tristram
> Paul Vnuk Jr.
> Tim Walters
> Greg Waltzer
> Hong Waltzer
> Doug Wellington
> Richard Wentk
> Doug Wyatt
>
> Anyone who feels they should be on this list but were omitted by
accident, or
> who wants to get on the list for this year, should contact me ASAP.
There's
> still time to get you qualified and set up before March.
>
> One last note: the fee will be going up a little bit this year,
probably to
> $330 per performer. As usual, foreign attendees can wait to pay
until they
> arrive, to avoid transfer costs. I accept cash, personal checks, and
PayPal
> payments, although using the latter will make the fee slightly
higher ($340)
> to cover PayPal's fees. If you want to bring a spouse or other tantric
> counterpart, you need to specify that when you sign up; be aware
that spaces
> for non-performers are not impossible to arrange, but do require a
bit more
> money for room and board  (total of $500 for two people) AND some
advance
> planning on my part (there are a limited number of rooms that are
> couples-friendly, and they go fast).
>
> As always, the forum is always open for discussion of the upcoming
event, by
> attendees and non-attendees alike.
>
> Here we go again!
>
> mike
>
> --
> "There is nothing like exposure to public ridicule
> to galvanise the attention."   (robert fripp, 2001)
> > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > <
> < >
> metlay / www.atomiccity.com / www.mindspiral.com /
www.differentskies.com
>

I just got an email from someone who used one of my pieces in a short
film.  I thought the guy did a nice job with it, so here's the link if
anybody wants to watch it (it's about 7 mins long):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYsOJgcNzI8

:-) :-)