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#134 From: "johnboru" <johnboru@...>
Date: Fri Aug 9, 2002 10:43 am
Subject: Lewes gig
johnboru
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Hi all....
Did anyone go?
What did he play?
Was it a good set?
Did Bruce make a surprise appearance?
I would have loved to have gone, but I was on nights and it was
impossible to get back to London before my shift.... bah humbug!
  Lets hope Vini's so broke he has to do a tour....
Anyway, enough ranting.... I hope those who went had a good time and
I'd appreciate any feedback (or a CDR of the gig... or the Jazz Cafe
gig, which had to be one of the best I have ever seen) .....
John

#135 From: tom_hopkins
Date: Sat Aug 10, 2002 11:40 am
Subject: Re: Lewes gig
tom_hopkins
 
I made the trip from London to see Vini play in this rather bizarre
church-hall setting. It wasn't a Vini Reilly solo gig at all, as it
turned out. A couple of days before it had been upgraded to a full DC
affair with Bruce and Kier in attendance.

I think a lot of the local Lewes crowd (and those there for the week-
long guitar festiveal) were expecting a big accoustic guitar love-in
and were a bit taken a back when Vini started making "a hell of a
noise" (his words).

Unfortuately at times that's exactly what we got - the accoustics in
the venue were poor, Vini said himself he wasn't playing well, and
the set list was the same as the Jazz Cafe (which I'm afriad was not
my favourite) - lots of overdrive-ridden songs with him singing (with
the usual effects).

Of course, there were great bits too. Vini's first encore was "For
Belgian Friends", played on an old SG which I'm guessing was probably
used on the original, and that was fantastic (I believe that song has
just been sampled for a chart song which may explain why he's playing
it again).

The standards: Jacqueline, Missing Boy, The Beggar, and Tomorrow were
great and he played some other nice treats such as Organ Donor. And,
at least there was no rap songs!

Overall: Vini seems to be on good form and, at times, played the most
amazing stuff - reminding me why I love the music so much - but was
it the best showcase of his phenomenal talent? Probably not. Would I
have enjoyed it if I didn't love the band already? Not sure.

I'd be interested to hear what every one else thought of it.

Tom

--- In durutticolumn@y..., "johnboru" <johnboru@y...> wrote:
> Hi all....
> Did anyone go?
> What did he play?
> Was it a good set?
> Did Bruce make a surprise appearance?
> I would have loved to have gone, but I was on nights and it was
> impossible to get back to London before my shift.... bah humbug!
>  Lets hope Vini's so broke he has to do a tour....
> Anyway, enough ranting.... I hope those who went had a good time
and
> I'd appreciate any feedback (or a CDR of the gig... or the Jazz
Cafe
> gig, which had to be one of the best I have ever seen) .....
> John

#136 From: "kajmp" <kajmp@...>
Date: Mon Aug 12, 2002 10:50 am
Subject: sleep will come
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One of my favorite DC track is "sleep will come"...does anybody know
if there is a longer version of that song? Is there only one version?

regards Mikael

#137 From: julyskies2
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:53 pm
Subject: BBC Radio 3 Late Junction - DC Appearance
julyskies2
 
The Durutti Column will feature on the Verity Sharp's Late
Junction –
BBC Radio 3
10:15pm Thursday 22nd August 2002
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/world/latejunction.shtml

Kind Regards!
JS

#138 From: Jason Davies <ucrajpd@...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 3:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Durutti Column] BBC Radio 3 Late Junction - DC Appearance
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>The Durutti Column will feature on the Verity Sharp's Late
>Junction –
>BBC Radio 3
>10:15pm Thursday 22nd August 2002

excellent! thanks. I'd better find room for another CD on the DC shelf...

#139 From: "pauldbevan" <pauldbevan@...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 12:32 am
Subject: Re: BBC Radio 3 Late Junction - DC Appearance
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I wouldn't go getting your hopes up for anything other than a few
CD tracks with breathy introductions by Ms Verity Sharp - but it'll
be interesting to hear which tracks she chooses nevertheless.

--- In durutticolumn@y..., julyskies2 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> The Durutti Column will feature on the Verity Sharp's Late
> Junction –
> BBC Radio 3
> 10:15pm Thursday 22nd August 2002
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/world/latejunction.shtml
>
> Kind Regards!
> JS

#140 From: king_of_straw
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 12:35 am
Subject: Re: BBC Radio 3 Late Junction - DC Appearance
king_of_straw
 
The links on the BBC site seem to be broken...anyone else encounter
this problem?

#141 From: tom_hopkins
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:51 am
Subject: Re: BBC Radio 3 Late Junction - DC Appearance
tom_hopkins
 
Did anyone here this broadcast?

Tom

--- In durutticolumn@y..., king_of_straw <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> The links on the BBC site seem to be broken...anyone else encounter
> this problem?

#142 From: Bruce Carle <alledinghe@...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:08 am
Subject: Re: [Durutti Column] Re: BBC Radio 3 Late Junction - DC Appearance
eenander
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I listened until they played "U.S.P." from "The Guitar and Other
Machines." The into mentioned "The Return of the Sporadic Recordings."
You didn't miss anything.
Bruce


On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 06:51 AM, tom_hopkins wrote:

> Did anyone here this broadcast?
>
> Tom
>
> --- In durutticolumn@y..., king_of_straw <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>> The links on the BBC site seem to be broken...anyone else encounter
>> this problem?
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#143 From: "johnboru" <johnboru@...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:57 pm
Subject: [Durutti Column] Re: BBC Radio 3 Late Junction - DC Appearance
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Sadly, U.S.P was the only track -- even then Miss Sharp wrongly
informed all that it was from the "1996 (???) album, the Guitar and
Other Machines".... Although fans of Bulgarian Wedding music and
tabla would have had a nice night's listening.... who knows? maybe
next year we'll get a couple of tracks from "1982's Sex and Death"...

John


--- In durutticolumn@y..., Bruce Carle <alledinghe@a...> wrote:
> I listened until they played "U.S.P." from "The Guitar and Other
> Machines." The into mentioned "The Return of the Sporadic
Recordings."
> You didn't miss anything.
> Bruce
>
>
> On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 06:51 AM, tom_hopkins wrote:
>
> > Did anyone here this broadcast?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > --- In durutticolumn@y..., king_of_straw <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >> The links on the BBC site seem to be broken...anyone else
encounter
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#144 From: hommage_to_martinu
Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 1:47 pm
Subject: Theatre Anybody
hommage_to_m...
 
Check out the DC homepage. Album and live happening news....

The whole theatre thing sounds great, might even be as
funny/entertaining/arty-farty as the Factory Classics gigs in 1990.
All we need is some AHW poetry readings prior to the event to
complete the whole thing.......

Still, new album and live stuff-Go Vinni!!!

#145 From: "mitchellmichael" <mitchellmichael@...>
Date: Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:59 pm
Subject: Favorite Bootleg?
mitchellmichael
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I know that there are others on this list that trade live concerts of
DC, but I would like to know what some of your favorites are. My top
3 would have to be:

1-)Jan 7, 1981 Live at Rafters, Manchester
2-)Oct 9, 1992 Live at the Mean Fiddler (with Rob Grey)
3-)Oct 12, 2001 Live at the Paradise Garage, Lisbon

Anyone else?

MM

#146 From: Jason Davies <ucrajpd@...>
Date: Tue Oct 15, 2002 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Durutti Column] Favorite Bootleg?
ucrajpd
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>I know that there are others on this list that trade live concerts of
>DC, but I would like to know what some of your favorites are. My top 3
>would have to be:
>
>1-)Jan 7, 1981 Live at Rafters, Manchester 2-)Oct 9, 1992 Live at the
>Mean Fiddler (with Rob Grey) 3-)Oct 12, 2001 Live at the Paradise
>Garage, Lisbon
>
>Anyone else?

well, I would have to have some to listen to first :-) I can trade an
Adrian Legg bootleg (who I 'discovered' supporting DC at the Greenwich Jazz
festival in about 1986)...

#147 From: "Yousef" <yousef@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 12:26 am
Subject: M/cr gig
sinkingfastus
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Just joined up a couple of minutes ago...

I notice that there's a DC gig booked for 23rd October in Manchester -
  I'd like to tape this if possible and was wondering what Vini's
stance was on this sort of thing. Would there be any possibility of
getting a line from the desk and if so who would I contact to sort it
out?

Maybe I'll see some of you there...

Cheers,

Yousef

#148 From: Bryan Burford <b.burford@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 9:03 am
Subject: RE: [Durutti Column] M/cr gig
herstwhile
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What? Any more info on this, it's news to me.

Bryan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yousef [mailto:yousef@...]
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> Subject: [Durutti Column] M/cr gig
>
>
> Just joined up a couple of minutes ago...
>
> I notice that there's a DC gig booked for 23rd October in Manchester -
>  I'd like to tape this if possible and was wondering what Vini's
> stance was on this sort of thing. Would there be any possibility of
> getting a line from the desk and if so who would I contact to sort it
> out?
>
> Maybe I'll see some of you there...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yousef
>
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#149 From: "mitchellmichael" <mitchellmichael@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 12:12 pm
Subject: DC on BBC3 last night
mitchellmichael
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Did anyone happen to record this???

>*Don't miss this Thursdays, Late Junction on BBC Radio 3
>
>The Durutti Column are featured on Verity Sharp's Late Junction this
>Thursday 17th October, 22:15 to midnight

Please let me know!
MM

#150 From: "mitchellmichael" <mitchellmichael@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:01 pm
Subject: Unofficial DC Gigography
mitchellmichael
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To all listmembers:

I have been frustrated for a while that there is not a list anywhere
of all the gigs that DC has played. So I took it upon myself to do
some research and compile the first "Unofficial DC Gigography"!

There are of course many many holes in it so, please take the time to
look at it and email me with any corrections, additions, etc.

http://www.geocities.com/mitchellmichael/dcgigography.html


My thanks to all!
Mike

#151 From: Jason Davies <ucrajpd@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Durutti Column] Unofficial DC Gigography
ucrajpd
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>http://www.geocities.com/mitchellmichael/dcgigography.html

Greenwich Jazz festival, 8th June 1986. Superb.

They also played at the Astoria in London in about 1989 but I have no
memory of the details: between 1987 and 1990 sometime (this might job
someone's memory though...!)

I also saw them at the Bloomsbury just before Obey the Time came out (it
must have been the Obey The Time tour, in fact..:-). But I don't remember
when that was exactly: is that the one you have as launching the Factory
Classics?

#152 From: "mitchellmichael" <mitchellmichael@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Durutti Column] Unofficial DC Gigography
mitchellmichael
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> Greenwich Jazz festival, 8th June 1986. Superb.

Thanks for the info.

> They also played at the Astoria in London in about 1989 but I have
no
> memory of the details: between 1987 and 1990 sometime (this might
job
> someone's memory though...!)

Anyone??? Anyone???


> I also saw them at the Bloomsbury just before Obey the Time came
out (it
> must have been the Obey The Time tour, in fact..:-). But I don't
remember
> when that was exactly: is that the one you have as launching the
Factory
> Classics?

Yes I am sure it is the same one.

Thanks for the input. The list has been revised with this information!

MM

#153 From: Jason Davies <ucrajpd@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Durutti Column] Unofficial DC Gigography
ucrajpd
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>
>>Greenwich Jazz festival, 8th June 1986. Superb.
>
>Thanks for the info.

it was the day before my birthday, and my French A level, and the day I was
beaten up by a boxer in a pub while out 'celebrating' my birthday.

In case anyone wondered why I remember the date so well...:-)

#154 From: "pauldbevan" <pauldbevan@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: Unofficial DC Gigography
pauldbevan
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After some rummaging around, here are some confirmations
and additions to the Gigography (coincidentally covering the 8
times I've seen them - and 2 when I didn't quite...):-

- 11 Sept 82 Deeside Leisure Centre, Chester - Futurama 4
festival
- 2 April 83 The Warehouse, Liverpool (Vini had just bought a
new guitar and, almost apologetically, came back on for an
encore in order to try it out)
- 6 Dec 84 Stanley Theatre, Liverpool University (the Without
Mercy tour - with several additional musicians)
- *14 Sept 87 Manchester Cathedral
- 6 May 88 Bluecoat Arts Centre, Liverpool (ticket #000005!)[Note:
the shot on the back of "Vini Reilly" was taken at this gig - I
recognise the backdrop design and other details. A few feet to
the left and I'd be in the pic!]
- 30 June 89 CANCELLED Bluecoat Arts Centre ("in the garden"),
Liverpool [Note: this was one of their free ticket gigs (I still have
the tickets numbered 0004-0006!). The theory being that if Vini
was too ill to make it, cancelling it at short notice would cause
less trouble. They tried it again in Liverpool a year or two later
(date + venue, anyone?), but due to a combination of poor
publicity and sheer incompetence on my part, I missed it..!]
- 4 Aug 91 Manchester Heaton Park - Cities In The Park festival
(subtitled "in memoriam Martin Hannett")
- 20 Nov 94 Royal Exchange, Manchester (with Peter Hook)
- *14 Sept 98 (according to my ticket stub!) Manchester Cathedral

Out of curiosity (of course), can anyone top my tally of 8 DC gigs?

~ Paul.

#155 From: "mitchellmichael" <mitchellmichael@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: Unofficial DC Gigography
mitchellmichael
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So far I have had great responses and great stories, so here is my
thinking....if you also have tickets, handbills, adverts, etc. from
any of these gigs PLEASE scan them and send them to my email address
and I will create a link from that show to these images on my web
page.

Am I creating a monster???

Cheers to all and thanks again!
Mike

#156 From: "yousef" <yousef@...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 10:39 pm
Subject: RE: [Durutti Column] M/cr gig
sinkingfastus
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>
> What? Any more info on this, it's news to me.
>
> Bryan

All I know is:

http://www.manchester.com/ad/html/gigs/gigs.php?listing=date&sday=23&smonth=
10&syear=2002&resultNum=5

(that is Mcr Life Cafe 23/10/02.) I'm not sure of the price but someone in
town tonight told me it would be around £15...

So what's the official stance on taping gigs?

Y



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> > Subject: [Durutti Column] M/cr gig
> >
> >
> > Just joined up a couple of minutes ago...
> >
> > I notice that there's a DC gig booked for 23rd October in Manchester -
> >  I'd like to tape this if possible and was wondering what Vini's
> > stance was on this sort of thing. Would there be any possibility of
> > getting a line from the desk and if so who would I contact to sort it
> > out?
> >
> > Maybe I'll see some of you there...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
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#157 From: king_of_straw
Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:13 am
Subject: Re: Unofficial DC Gigography
king_of_straw
 
Did anyone know of this?

Durutti playing in Manchester on the 23rd?!?!?!?

#158 From: "pauldbevan" <pauldbevan@...>
Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 1:50 am
Subject: Re: M/cr gig
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>  I'd like to tape this if possible and was wondering what Vini's
> stance was on this sort of thing. Would there be any possibility
of
> getting a line from the desk and if so who would I contact to
sort it
> out?

It's a tricky area. I know that some bootleggers do manage to
plug into the desk but I suspect it's down to how helpful the
sound engineer is on the night rather than pre-arranging it with
anyone - and I'm always fearful that they'll be unsympathetic, and
I'll end up having my gear confiscated and/or being thrown out of
the gig! So I favour the concealed microphone approach - poorer
quality but less risk.
Don't know what Vini's view on bootlegging is I'm afraid.

#159 From: Bryan Burford <b.burford@...>
Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:20 am
Subject: RE: [Durutti Column] Re: M/cr gig
herstwhile
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I *think* I've read he's okay about it - but bear in mind venues can have
their own policies (though Vini's unlikely to be playing MEN Arena, so it
may not be an issue). As long as no-one's profiting out of it...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pauldbevan [mailto:pauldbevan@...]
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> To: durutticolumn@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Durutti Column] Re: M/cr gig
>
>
> >  I'd like to tape this if possible and was wondering what Vini's
> > stance was on this sort of thing. Would there be any possibility
> of
> > getting a line from the desk and if so who would I contact to
> sort it
> > out?
>
> It's a tricky area. I know that some bootleggers do manage to
> plug into the desk but I suspect it's down to how helpful the
> sound engineer is on the night rather than pre-arranging it with
> anyone - and I'm always fearful that they'll be unsympathetic, and
> I'll end up having my gear confiscated and/or being thrown out of
> the gig! So I favour the concealed microphone approach - poorer
> quality but less risk.
> Don't know what Vini's view on bootlegging is I'm afraid.
>
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#160 From: "yousef" <yousef@...>
Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:34 am
Subject: RE: [Durutti Column] Re: M/cr gig
sinkingfastus
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I think I might do the stealth thing to be on the safe side.

Any idea how long the sets tend to be?

Ta,

Yousef

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan
> I *think* I've read he's okay about it - but bear in mind venues can have
> their own policies (though Vini's unlikely to be playing MEN Arena, so it
> may not be an issue). As long as no-one's profiting out of it...
>
>

#161 From: Bryan Burford <b.burford@...>
Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:37 am
Subject: RE: [Durutti Column] Re: M/cr gig
herstwhile
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Around an hour I think, the last couple I saw were anyway. Not sure about
this year's. If you're recording to cassette take a couple, if MD, then one
on mono record would be fine.

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> Sent: 21 October 2002 09:34
> To: durutticolumn
> Subject: RE: [Durutti Column] Re: M/cr gig
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>
> I think I might do the stealth thing to be on the safe side.
>
> Any idea how long the sets tend to be?
>
> Ta,
>
> Yousef
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan
> > I *think* I've read he's okay about it - but bear in mind
> venues can have
> > their own policies (though Vini's unlikely to be playing
> MEN Arena, so it
> > may not be an issue). As long as no-one's profiting out of it...
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#162 From: "johnboru" <johnboru@...>
Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:09 pm
Subject: [Durutti Column] Re: M/cr gig
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There is no gig at the Life Cafe....
Well not DC at least. I called them yeasterday an they informed me
that it was cancelled well over a month ago -- just not updated on
that website. No plans for a DC gig there this year.
rgds.... john

#163 From: "pauldbevan" <pauldbevan@...>
Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 3:17 pm
Subject: [Durutti Column] Re: M/cr gig
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A friend tells me that they're now playing at Manchester Uni. on
Weds 27 Nov - £13.50 or £15.25 on-line, which seems a bit
steep to me...

--- In durutticolumn@y..., "johnboru" <johnboru@y...> wrote:
> There is no gig at the Life Cafe....
> Well not DC at least. I called them yeasterday an they informed
me
> that it was cancelled well over a month ago -- just not updated
on
> that website. No plans for a DC gig there this year.
> rgds.... john

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