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RE: [e-valves] Lead tubing and ImmunoSTART

The ImmunoSTART is the only product that the FDA has allowed claims to be made for.  I have been a part of that company now for over two years and I can tell you it is the most truthful, responsible, totally non deceptive company I have ever seen in network marketing.  I have extensive experience with this new wing of science called glycobiology and this company in particular, and even though the FDA will not allow anyone to tell the complete truth about what their products do (except for ImmunoSTART) there is seldom deception.  In fact I have seen NONE.  In the particular stories I have heard that are too good to be true, I have investigated and found them to be completely true.  Also I have seen results that would boggle the mind.  In my own household, I have seen terminal cancer turn tail and run.  I have unbelievable stories that would curl your hair.  While this is merely anecdotal evidence, there are extensive studies ongoing that are using this nutritional technology in cases of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, stroke, and traumatic head injury.  The results of these studies are phenomenal with people getting back much of what they lost from these conditions in many cases.  You may see these at www.stemcellfunction.org.
 
If you want further information on any of those things you found in a search engine, I can give you the complete explanation.  The lawsuit, for instance, is to be expected anytime any large publicly held company has a decrease in stock price over a certain amount.  Several lawfirms file a suit every time it happens to a company that is large enough to have money.  So far the courts have not found any deception involved or price manipulation, either.
 
I can tell you this:  The National Institutes of Health has just given Indiana University $3.5 million to set up a glycomics and proteomics department to study cancer.  The only patented clinical application for this whole new division of science is one product that I take from this company.  The NIH has also in past spent over $30 million setting up and funding glycomics departments in as many as 40 top universities.  They wouldn't do that to study snake oil.  Doctors are coming over to these products in droves.  Doctors are the world's most skeptical people as well they should be.  They see the unmistakable results and must decide whether they made a mistake in diagnosis or there is really something here to investigate in glyconutrients.
 
I don't blame you for being skeptical.  If I had not seen unbelievable results over and over and over again, I would be saying exactly what you say.  I have seen what these products have done for me and for many formerly sick people all around me.  I can truthfully tell you that if that company says it you can bet your very life on it.  There are hundreds of thousands that are doing exactly that and they are still live to tell about it.
 
If you want to know more just ask me privately----d.l.bullock@ sbcglobal.net (remove space)
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: e-valves@yahoogroups.com [mailto:e-valves@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Craig Smith
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:03 PM
To: e-valves@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [e-valves] Lead tubing

Hi,
I tend to agree with Mr Bullock about the dangers of lead tubing.  I took all the lead off my piano several years ago but I took modest precautions.  I arranged air flow away from me and vacuumed up afterwards.  Then I washed my hands, just in case.  No use taking a chance - no dust is always better than any kind of dust.

I DO NOT agree with him about ImmunoSTART.  This product and its promoters are of questionable background.  It is a multilevel marketing company that makes claims about its products with no research to back up the claims.  In fact, the first item that comes up on a search is a letter from the FDA that warns the company that their claims put the product in the catagory of a medicine without any proof of efficacy.  The next 100 or so items are promotional articles that either come from or are directly tracable back to the company literature.  Not a single word about the quality of the product.  In fact, one article is an ad seeking a doctor to run a study on the product.  Oh, I forgot the law suite from investors about how the owners inflated the price of their stock and then sold it at a profit just before it dropped 50%.
I'd do some serious checking before I bought any
ImmunoSTART.
Craig



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D.L.-- Whoa, I can see that I could have run into all of those problems without your advice. I was shooting for a tube run no longer than 2 feet, but I¹m now...
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Greetings sstrat44, I also took the tracker bar interface on as a challenge and it sure was one. I used it three times to demonstrate my system and have it in...
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You know since I¹ve been chatting today with folks on this list, I¹ve been thinking of just that, eliminating the tubing all together. Back to the drawing...
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Greetings Steven, My tracker bar unit has something like 6 to 8 inches of tubing between the valves and the bar and it does work quite well. It would certainly...
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Hi Steve. I'm in agreement with Mssrs Bullock and Chase. The best e-actions I've seen are tubed into the system. One point to remember: modern (any player...
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The tubes in my piano appear to be metal. Grayish, look pretty soft. Whenever I have the player action out to work on it I steer way clear of touching those...
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Greetings Steven, There was a lot of gray rubber tube used which would probably be hard as a rock now. If what you have is metallic and looks like lead,...
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Hi Steve. I had lead tubing in my Autopiano action, but it was beginning to turn to powder. Rather than try to refit lead tubing (even though it is...
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Greetings Steven, There was a lot of gray rubber tube used which would probably be hard as a rock now. If what you have is metallic and looks like lead,...
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Definitely lead, I scratched it a bit and it's shiny gray underneath. (sorry if this posts twice, I thought I sent it but maybe not). It appears to be coated...
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Let us not be whipped into a frenzy from media hype about the so-called "dangers" of lead tubing. You are never going to be able to handle enough of the lead...
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THANK you, Mr. Bullock, for talking SANELY about the lead non-issue! I worked for the telephone company for 30 years working with lead-acid batteries and...
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Greetings Bob, As usual in our society, the media masks the real issue in trying to sell advertising. Lead is a poison and causes serious health problems. It...
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Hi, I tend to agree with Mr Bullock about the dangers of lead tubing. I took all the lead off my piano several years ago but I took modest precautions. I...
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The ImmunoSTART is the only product that the FDA has allowed claims to be made for. I have been a part of that company now for over two years and I can tell...
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... out a section and push a ... Y to run to your ... Thanks for the advice. For now I'm going to steer clear of it just to avoid damaging it. I'm real leery...
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