I should have pointed out that before: the thread is dealing with d''',
not d'', Helmholtz notation

regards

Thomas

Alan Cowderoy wrote:

> >If you red chapter about tremblements you may discover also the usual
> >D'' - 2 3 - - - open, which he used only as a tremblement fingering,
> >since on his flute it was too flat. p.16 and p.26 (on doit forcer le
> vent)
>
> Hmmm, bringing in the tremblement fingering here seems rather
> artificial to me.
>
> I take your point about the advantages of an open key fingering in
> sequences where the preceding and succeeding notes are also open
> keyed.
>
> My question though was why does Hotteterre gives these different
> fingerings in the **main** chart.
>
> What distinction is he trying to make when he uses
> D'' - 2 3 4 5 6 closed in the ascending/sharp sequence and
> D'' - 2 3 4 - 6 closed in the descending/flat sequence?
>
> I can't see how bringing in a fingering from the tremblements chart
> helps us here. Indeed the very fact that D'' - 2 3 - - - open only
> appears in the tremblement chart surely implies that hotteterre did
> not intend it for normal use even if an open keyed fingering would
> have made life easier.
>
> Regards
> Alan
>
> >So I use Hotterre fingerings like Quantz fingerings : a choice
> >between closed key, in a sequence with e and f natural for instance,
> >or open key in a sequence with b flat or e flat for instance.
> >It's very useful to learn both fingerings at the beginning.
>
> >closed key sequence fingerings:
> >C'' is - 2 - 4 5 - closed
> >D'' is - 2 3 4 5 6 closed or - 2 3 4 - 6 closed
>
> >open key sequence fingerings
> >C'' is - 2 - 4 5 6 open
> >D'' is - 2 3 - - - open
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor*
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
<http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12c46shfv/M=243273.4326031.5516772.1261774/D=egroupweb/\
S=1705031959:HM/EXP=1074891737/A=1750744/R=0/*http://servedby.advertising.com/cl\
ick/site=552006/bnum=1074805337728098>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Yahoo! Groups Links*
>
> * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/earlyflute/
>
> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> earlyflute-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:earlyflute-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>
> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
>
>


--
Flötenbau Thomas Fehr
Seestrasse 185
CH-8712 Stäfa
+41 1 926 65 26
www.floetenbau.ch