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Re : [earlyflute] Position of the cork in Hotteterre traverso

Dear Javier,
Rod has, as always, provided very good, reliable and well explained information regarding the cork position and other octave difficulties.  If I may add one further detail that has been of help to me which is to get the 'G' octaves in-tune.  On many pre-1750 traversos, of which your Hotteterre is an excellent example, if you set the cork so that the 'D' octaves are completely comfortable, the 'G' octaves will almost always be very wide.  On later, narrower-bored 18th century flutes like the CA Grenser, one often needs to tune the 'D' octaves slightly on the high-side so that the high 'G' is not too flat.  This being said, if you have no need to play very often in the 3rd octave, then I would just set the cork so that the 'D' octaves are perfectly comfortable for you.  On a personal note, I've used my own Cameron-Hotteterre to play operas of Rameau and Gluck which generally have very high tessituras and it worked beautifully and easily. I hope this is of some help and doesn't just make things more confusing!
Best,
Colin


De : Javier Gelati <jgelati@...>
À : Early Flute <earlyflute@yahoogroups.com>; Flutemakers Group <flutemakers@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Jeudi, 9 Juillet 2009, 12h13mn 43s
Objet : [earlyflute] Position of the cork in Hotteterre traverso

¿Could anybody tell me which is the aproximately position of the cork (the distance between the cork and the center of the embouchure hole) in a Hotteterre (Graz, pitch 392)?
 This will help me a lot. I´ve been trying for months and It´s still uncertain to me.
 Thanks in advance, 
 

Javier Gelati
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¿Could anybody tell me which is the aproximately position of the cork (the distance between the cork and the center of the embouchure hole) in a Hotteterre...
Javier Gelati
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Jul 9, 2009
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The mark on the stick which Alain Weemaels supplies with his Graz 392 Hotteterre is about 19.5 mm from the end. I am also curious about how much others who...
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Jul 9, 2009
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I never care about those marks. I try to have the octaves (firstable the ds) in tune and that's my correct cork's position on that flute. regards. manoel ...
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Jul 9, 2009
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Yes! That is a good short answer, but remember the middle d to low D is almost always a wide octave and so low D is flat and needs to be blown up a bit. I...
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Jul 9, 2009
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Hello, Javier! The quick answer to the "average" best place for the cork on the Graz original Hotteterre flute is 22mm from the centre of the mouth hole to the...
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Dear Javier, Rod has, as always, provided very good, reliable and well explained information regarding the cork position and other octave difficulties. If I...
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Excellent post, Colin, I am glad you talked about not worrying about the upper register, unless you are to be playing up there. Getting your D octaves in good ...
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