James,

Can I beg to differ (slightly). Having owned an HE8, whilst it has some
"nice" organ sounds, there is not much variety and limited scope for
changing them during performance. I guess that a lot depends on what type of
"organ" (clasical/electronic/hammond) sounds you are looking for. If its
electronic/hammond then the built in drawer bars in the EL series makes
setting up "Hammond" sounds so much easier. Not sure if the Yamaha has the
discordances of the Hammond original, but certainly on the El70 and EL90 you
can tweak the settings whilst paying, something's which can't be done on a
HS, HE or HC series instrument (not sure about the HX). Also if you want to
play "live" (as opposed to "programmed") the the El's score highly over the
HE/HS..

Having said all that I still know plenty of folks with HS-8s and they are
splendid instruments, But I don't think I would consider less than an HS-8,
with disk drive (or a large number of RAM pack) and preferably with CVS10
drawer bar expander.

Dave.


-----Original Message-----
From: jameshx1 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 27 March 2005 09:49
To: electoneclubinternational@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Electone Club International] Re: EL25




Hi Malc,

I think that in your last comment you really scored..

If organ sounds + Tremolo (poor Lesley effect) is what you're
looking for, then you should really try the good-old Yamaha H range
(HE-8,HS,HX).
The Organ/Combination/Flutes sounds are pretty much the same in both
H ans EL series, and you can save a few dollars in the process
without compromising on quality/variety.

I recommend you give it a try and rather sure you won't be
disappointed..

Another thing,
If the good-old Hammond B-3 has an effect on you and you can't
afford it , and that's the main reason for you to try compromising
on the EL-15/40/60 or whatever, might I suggest you try other
companies' products as well, as organ sounds are not the "strong
side" of the Yamaha electones, even though they are quite good..


James Cohen - Israel.


--- In electoneclubinternational@yahoogroups.com, "Malcolm P Fisher"
<malcolm_p_fisher@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave, Thanks for the comments and info! I went to hear an EL40
> today, which the fellow that owned kindly offered to let me listen
> to him put it through it's paces so I would have an idea. Well, it
> was great, I am currently bidding on a EL60 model, which I hope to
> win, but if I dont, I'm going to hold out and get an EL model 40
or
> upward as I at least know they sound great, and that sound system
in
> the 90 sounds like it is a killer! :) Thinking about it, if I
cannot
> afford a good EL model, maybe I aught to think about a top of the
> range from the previous generation, simply to get the sound?
Anyway,
> Im hoping to win the auction so am thinking positive, but have to
> face the fact I might get outbid!
>
> Cheers, Malc.
>
>
>
> --- In electoneclubinternational@yahoogroups.com, "David Wade"
> <dave@d...> wrote:
> > Malc,
> > Since no one else
> > I have played an EL7 and EL10 and I own an EL90 so I
> am "interoplating" as
> > to how I think the EL25 may sound. Personally I think before
> buying any
> > organ one should try and play it to see if the sounds are to
your
> taste. You
> > can also download the user manual from
> >
> > http://www.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/index.php
> >
> > which will give you a better idea of how it works.
> >
> > The EL25 is towards the bottom of the range but it does have the
> ability to
> > create draw bar sounds, and a Lesley effect so I guess it can
> create a wide
> > range of "electronic" organ sounds. However from the user guide
it
> appears
> > that changing the settings whilst playing would be virtually
> impossible (its
> > hard enough on the EL90 which has one up/down button per drawer
> bar) and as
> > it has only four preset registration memories, getting a good
> range of
> > sounds into a single piece would be challenging.
> >
> > There is also no disk drive to save your settings on, so you
would
> either
> > need a computer and midi librarian, or an MDR3 external drive if
> you wanted
> > to save your registration settings
> >
> > I can't comment on the amp/speakers, as whilst the EL10 always
> sounded thin
> > and tinny (even compared to my old HE8) my EL90 is really
> excellent. There
> > again it has a five way 200watt system!
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Malcolm P Fisher [mailto:malcolm_p_fisher@y...]
> > Sent: 23 March 2005 23:13
> > To: electoneclubinternational@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Electone Club International] EL25
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello, does anyone have one of these? Is there a good range of
> organ
> > sounds and a leslie effect on board.
> > Thanks, Malc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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