Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
electonetalk · Electone Talk: For YAMAHA Electone users
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Hear how Yahoo! Groups has changed the lives of others. Take me there.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Need info/help for sick FX-20   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #638 of 814 |
Re: [Electone Talk] Re: Need info/help for sick FX-20

Thanks Bill!!!  And looking for 2 cm diameter also might make finding
something a bit easier.  I was wondering, did you ever try just regular
"O" Rings?  Although, I sort of have a feeling they might spin off the
pulley without the right groove in the pulley.

Thanks,
Duane


ctsbillc wrote:

You need to go to the seedy parts of town where you find cheap imported electronic goods from China. 
 
I got a bunch of them in Toronto, in fact, I had all their stock in that size.  They probably thought I was a maniac.
 
On the web should be possible also.  2 cm dia works too.
 
Good luck,
 
Bill
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: inkydinky8
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:04 PM
Subject: [Electone Talk] Re: Need info/help for sick FX-20

Hi Bill,

I have been searching and searching for these belts that fit the
sliders on the FX-20 you mentioned, but I'll be darn if I can find
them anyplace. "Replacement belts can be found at cassette recorder
spares stores. you need belts 1.9 cm in diameter (they are about 1 mm
square rubber)." Where did you get yours? Thanks for any help in
locating some.

Duane

--- In electonetalk@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <ctsbillc@...> wrote:
>
> Try Yamaha Canada (yamaha.ca). they had parts for my FS-500, same
vintage. Who was the other company, BTW, they may have some other
bits of interest to the rest of us.
>
> Mind you, if the sliders are not working properly, it is likely thet
the belts are stretched, and/or the motor brushes are dirty. I had to
replace all of the belts, and disassemble and clean all of the motors
on my FS-500. do not assume because they are all faulty, it must be
whatever drives them, all it needs is for someone to spray switch
cleaner in the slider slots, and your belts will slip, and stretch.
>
> Replacement belts can be found at cassete recorder spares stores.
you need belts 1.9 cm in diameter (they are about 1 mm square rubber).
>
> Good luck,
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary.Auchard
> To: electonetalk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:08 PM
> Subject: RE: [Electone Talk] Re: Need info/help for sick FX-20
>
>
> FYI,
> I appreciate the person sending me this information on
troubleshooting the problem on my FX-20. It appears I need both the
YM21140 and YM21210 IC's. After calling Yamaha here in the U.S. they
said they no longer stock these items. They sold their remaining
inventory to another company a few years ago. I called that company
and they don't have the parts either.
>
> I would like to talk to the person that sent me the email
(tnmshd), but I cannot find an email address for you to send my
response and questions to.
>
> Does anyone in the Electone Talk group know where these parts can
be found? I would be interested in a working "SC" circuit board if
that is available.
>
> Can anyone help me with this problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tnmshd [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:21 AM
> To: electonetalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Electone Talk] Re: Need info/help for sick FX-20
>
>
> Hi Gary A.
>
> All of the voices work fine, but the sliders
> > and setup buttons are not responding properly when activated.
>
> 1:Check SC Sheet IC1(SCI)YM21140
> PinNo.51 SDO(Serial data out)
> No.50SDi(serial data in) and Vss,Vdd,SysClock,Chip enable.
> 2:Panel Loop (serial data line)
> SC
sheet-DRE-PN3-PSB-PN1-PSW-RER1-UpperPanel-REL1-Solo-Upper-RER1-RPN-
> RER1-Lower-REL1-Lower-PN4-DRE-SC
> TC4050 buffer IC*5(REL1,RER1,DRE) and all DRV IC(YM2121) PinNo.1
> (Serial data Out)No.3(in) and Vss VDD
>
>
> > Yamaha still have any spare parts available for this model - 1985
> > vintage?
>
> They don't have a SC sheet But they have IC(YM21140,YM21210).
> Ask YAMAHA and make confirm
>
> Good Luck,,
>
>
>
>
>
>




Sun May 4, 2008 11:52 am

inkydinky8
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #638 of 814 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

You need to go to the seedy parts of town where you find cheap imported electronic goods from China. I got a bunch of them in Toronto, in fact, I had all their...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
May 4, 2008
2:31 am

Thanks Bill!!! And looking for 2 cm diameter also might make finding something a bit easier. I was wondering, did you ever try just regular "O" Rings?...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
May 4, 2008
11:52 am

Thanks Bill, great information!!! Just so you know, I did find a source for motors and parts. It is NTS in CA. You need the exact part number from the...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
May 4, 2008
7:26 pm

... That's a scary thought, Bill. Thanks for your help, Duane...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
May 5, 2008
12:36 am

Hi Bill, I think I found a source for the belts in UK. Square belts Belt 19 X 1.3 X 1.3 Mm Here is the site... I'm not sure if URLs get through OK anymore on...
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 9, 2008
8:49 pm

Thanks Duane Good luck with the replacement. I don't know if you have dismantled the beast yet, but it does come apart real easy. If it looks difficult, it...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
Jun 9, 2008
11:49 pm

Hi Bill, Thanks for this piece of information. It looked exceptionally difficult to get into to. I've worked on a lot of electro- mechanical and electronic...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
12:16 am

Duane, Relax. Removing the back is not even necessary. The top cover comes off with the removal of one screw on the back - on mine its marked remove to raise...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
2:27 am

Bill, Thanks for the additional information. I have a new problem this morning, the place that has the square O rings in UK will not ship them to the US, and...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
12:49 pm

Dang! Where I got my belts was a Chinese run electronics store in the electronics region of Toronto. The kind of place which sells absurdly large power...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
1:15 pm

I'll start looking in these types of stores. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks, Duane...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
1:25 pm

Hi Bill, I found a fellow that has the belts here in the US!!! Ken's Electronics. He has multitudes of belts. He asked I remove a belt from my FS-500 and...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
4:00 pm

Correction...<<<This outfit in the UK, the other one, wanted about $98.00 to ship me a couple Corrected = This outfit in the UK, the other one, wanted about...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
4:03 pm

Bill, I figured out how to get the motor PCB's out just now. I can see there's no easy magical bullet on that one. I can get the rest out OK. I have a new...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
5:06 pm

Have you considered using rubber bands for practice> Errol In a message dated 6/10/2008 10:07:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, vonwelling@... writes: ...
errolgibbs@...
errolgibbs
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
10:08 pm

Hi Errol, The distances are so so close, that the belt (or rubber band) can't clear the pulleys and, of course, can't get by the pulley shaft on the slider. ...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
10:14 pm

Is that the one with the Horseshoe and three manuals? I fell in love with that organ years ago. You don't see them on the market as their owners love them too...
errolgibbs@...
errolgibbs
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
10:23 pm

Hi, Yes, it is. Mine is the FS-500 which is just a little smaller in size than the FX-20, but they are both pretty much the same. They are incredible...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 10, 2008
10:33 pm

Duane, You know, darned if I can remember. I had to remove all the motors because the brushes were gunged up and clean them all. Actually, you may wish to...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
Jun 11, 2008
12:09 am

Hi Bill, I'll proceed with this in the morning, sounds like one should have a good nights sleep before this one! I'll let you know how I make out. All is...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 11, 2008
12:23 am

I've just been consulting the manuals. No help. I think the spindle that holds the slider drive worm pops outwith the application of a little force from a...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
Jun 11, 2008
12:44 am

Yep, the manuals seem to ignore this part. I'll study this tonight and see what my options might be. I sure don't want to do major surgery on these motor PCB...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 11, 2008
1:03 am

Yep, they should be tight. Bill ... From: Duane Tash To: electonetalk@yahoogroups.com Cc: Duane Tash Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re:...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
Jun 11, 2008
4:34 am

OK Duane, Here's the scoop on the dismantling the sliders: The motor end pulley slides along the motor shaft with aplication of a little force from a...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
Jun 12, 2008
2:47 am

Good lord, Bill, this certainly seems remarkably simple, you are of phenomenal help, Bill. I will try this in the morning with a clear mind on the one I have ...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 12, 2008
2:53 am

Bill, *SUCCESS!!!* I have the belt off and laying on my desk next to me, yes, looks about 5/8" in diameter! Loosing the screws on the motor mount didn't do...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 12, 2008
6:49 pm

Bill, FINALLY, I'm starting to see the light at this end of the tunnel and I don't think it's a train! I've carefully measured the belts on mine and I found...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 12, 2008
9:25 pm

It's been at least tow maybe more years sense any one came along asking these questions. I'll file these away for next time. I' no I'm late with this but did...
errolgibbs@...
errolgibbs
Offline Send Email
Jun 12, 2008
10:39 pm

Hi, Yes, I researched the Electonetalk files. Bill was the only one to post about these belts, so he's been helping me a lot, an awful lot. I'm very indebted...
Duane Tash
inkydinky8
Offline Send Email
Jun 12, 2008
10:58 pm

Sad to say Duane, my FS-500 is going. I have a Technics F-100 now as my main machine, and the FS is just taking up space, while it deserves to be played. I...
ctsbillc
Offline Send Email
Jun 12, 2008
11:57 pm
 First  |  |  Last 
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help