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#54 From: "tenorstar2001" <nhollan493@...>
Date: Mon Sep 8, 2003 11:56 am
Subject: Re: Turandot
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--- In fansofjussibjoerling@yahoogroups.com, "greghauser2002"
<greghauser2002@y...> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I am an Austrian fan of Jussi Björling. One of my favorite Cd´s of
> him is "Turandot" (Leinsdorf). But I am always amazed and worry
about
> the fact that Jussi did not sing the high note at the scene with
> Princess Turandot (final of the second act)"No, no principessa
altera
> ti voglio tutta ardente d´amor" (Corelli did it and even Carreras
> tried to do it).
>
> You are  admirers and experts about Jussi. Do you know, if there is
> another recording (live) where he do the high note at this scene. I
> cannot believe that Jussi never did it!
>
> I am looking forward to hear from you.
> Thank You and best wishes from Salzburg
>

Gregor,

I am new to this particular web board but I am an opera singer  and
ardent Jussi Bjoerling fan as all tenors are. The answer to your
question is that Jussi Bjoerling did not sing the high C because it
is not written in Puccini's original score and it is listed as an
option if wanted. Always being faithful to the score oviously he
never did. Having sung in this opera many times with several famous
tenors of the modern era, the high C interpolation becomes very gross
and out of context. Happy listening.

Norm

#53 From: james hanrahan <singfree23@...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 11:43 am
Subject: Re: [Fans of Jussi Bjoerling] Turandot
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Dear Greg,
I heard Jussi in his last four concerts in New York.  I saw him twice at
Carnegie and twice at Hunter College.  I never saw him in an opera performance,
although, I have some friends who had.  His voice was so beautiful and carried
wonderfully.  It was not a huge voice but it filled the hall and could be heard
from every seat.  I recall many people being moved to tears, myself included.
After all these years, I can still remember that sound, it was unforgettable. 
I've heard many other singers, Jussi was incomparable.  I don't want to sound
like a "Groupie" but he was truly, one of a kind! I hope you will continue to
investigate more of Jussi's performances and enjoy them as much as I do.

                                             Regards,
                                             Jim Hanrahan

  greghauser2002 <greghauser2002@...> wrote:Thank You. You are right. This
recording was done in 1960. Shortly I
heard that Jussi never sang Calaf on stage so this is his only
rcording of Turandot. But in my opinion he still was in very good
condition.
Greg


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#52 From: "greghauser2002" <greghauser2002@...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:39 am
Subject: Re: [Fans of Jussi Bjoerling] Turandot
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Thank You. You are right. This recording was done in 1960. Shortly I
heard that Jussi never sang Calaf on stage so this is his only
rcording of Turandot. But in my opinion he still was in very good
condition.
Greg

#51 From: james hanrahan <singfree23@...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Fans of Jussi Bjoerling] Turandot
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Dear Gregor,
I'm not familiar with that recording of "Turandot" but if it is the recording
with Birgit Nielson, I think that was the last opera he recorded before he died.
He was, to my knowledge, quite ill.  I believe he returned to Sweden and died
shortly afterward.  I'm not positive of this information, but I recall hearing
this recording and thinking, that he was not singing his best.  I'm not sure, if
he did in fact, record Turandot, at any other time. I could be wrong.  Perhaps,
some other member could give you better information. Good Luck.
                                          James Hanrahan.
                                          jjhan2@...
  greghauser2002 <greghauser2002@...> wrote:Hello!

I am an Austrian fan of Jussi Björling. One of my favorite Cd´s of
him is "Turandot" (Leinsdorf). But I am always amazed and worry about
the fact that Jussi did not sing the high note at the scene with
Princess Turandot (final of the second act)"No, no principessa altera
ti voglio tutta ardente d´amor" (Corelli did it and even Carreras
tried to do it).

You are  admirers and experts about Jussi. Do you know, if there is
another recording (live) where he do the high note at this scene. I
cannot believe that Jussi never did it!

I am looking forward to hear from you.
Thank You and best wishes from Salzburg

Gregor





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#50 From: "greghauser2002" <greghauser2002@...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 12:26 pm
Subject: Turandot
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Hello!

I am an Austrian fan of Jussi Björling. One of my favorite Cd´s of
him is "Turandot" (Leinsdorf). But I am always amazed and worry about
the fact that Jussi did not sing the high note at the scene with
Princess Turandot (final of the second act)"No, no principessa altera
ti voglio tutta ardente d´amor" (Corelli did it and even Carreras
tried to do it).

You are  admirers and experts about Jussi. Do you know, if there is
another recording (live) where he do the high note at this scene. I
cannot believe that Jussi never did it!

I am looking forward to hear from you.
Thank You and best wishes from Salzburg

Gregor

#48 From: hieroluwian
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: Romeo et Juliette
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Well, it seems to be a choice between $26.00 cash
to the museum (one week to USA) or $27.20 + postage
to allclassicalmusic.com who apparently is the USA
distributor and does have it in spite of not listing it. The
title is Romeo och Julia in Swedish.<br>yoel

#47 From: hieroluwian
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: Romeo et Juliette
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That is one way (esp. for new things). Trouble is
that the Museum only accepts cash (no cards or
checks). In the USA allclassicalmusic.com is usually the
distributor, but I checked for this item and didn't find it.
The museum is selling it for $26.00 post paid. If you
are in USA, write to allclassicalmusic.com via their
web site. I have no connection with any of the above,
of course.<br>Yoel

#46 From: jrpsong
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: Romeo et Juliette
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Thanks for the information.<br><br>How do you buy Bluebell recordings?  Do you
buy them from the museum in Sweden?

#45 From: hieroluwian
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 1:14 am
Subject: Re: Romeo et Juliette
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Follow up to my message of April 07,01<br>The
Swedish 1940 Romeo & Juliette I mentioned there is now
available complete on Bluebell.<br>I know both vocally and
sonically how good this is gonna be as I've had excerpts
for many years.<br>Romeo is likely Bjoerling's best
role and we have so many partials from him and now two
completes, the Swedish and the Met French from 7 years
later. Unfortunately the Myto of the Met is not a very
good mastering.<br>Cheers,<br>Yoel

#44 From: binkifleet
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2001 12:57 pm
Subject: O TERRA ADDIO (was Milanov)
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"O terra addio on the Bjoerling-Milanov recording
is a blend of voices unlike most other Aidas I've
heard."<br>========<br>Yes. My two favorite versions are Bjoerling/Milanov
and Ponselle/Martinelli. Supremely great singing in
both.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Paul<br>(Also a Callas and Tebaldi-nut)

#43 From: hieroluwian
Date: Thu Oct 4, 2001 4:10 am
Subject: Re: MILANOV
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I've always felt that that live burial of La
pietra fatal (sorry, I'm not good on titles and don't
want to look them up) and O terra addio on the
Bjoerling-Milanov recording is a blend of voices unlike most other
Aidas I've heard. And the best of the Callas Aidas,
that of Mexico City with MdM, still doesn't have the
magic resignation and triumph that this M-B recording
has. Milanov is a current very favorite target.Don't
discount her.<br>A Callas-nut myself,<br>Yoel

#42 From: binkifleet
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2001 2:13 am
Subject: MILANOV
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"I personally dont' mind Milanov's voice. it is
beautiful, but she isn't exactly very good. it sounds like
she needs to clear her throat. and she isn't as
skilled as-lets say Callas or Tebaldi. but if she could
have gotten over this rather large set back-she would
have had a beautiful voice"<br>=========<br>Dear
Zach,<br><br>When Milanov made her debut, Callas and Tebaldi were
barely in kindergarten. Milanov was singing in the great
international houses as a singer of the first rank when Callas
and Tebaldi were just getting started. She was still
there and singing well in the early to mid-1950's when
Callas and Tebaldi were at their best and many
aficionado's still preferred Milanov to either Callas or
Tebaldi. She was also still there until she retired in
1966 when both Callas and Tebaldi were in deep vocal
trouble. Please don't get me wrong, I love both Callas and
Tebaldi. But Milanov was one of the GREAT voices,
possesseed a superlative technique, was a pupil of Milka
Ternina, and an artist chosen by all the great conductors
starting with Toscanini. Have you heard the Final Scene of
AIDA (RCA) with Zinka and Jussi? If you haven't you
might want to give it a try.<br><br>Kind
regards,<br><br>Paul

#41 From: strauss87
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2001 4:27 pm
Subject: Duo
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Did Jussi ever stay around a few other singers-what i mean is, did he like to
perform with specific people around him, and try to stay with them on stage and
in the recording booth?

#40 From: jrpsong
Date: Tue Aug 21, 2001 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: Milanov
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I'm not a great fan of Milanov.  I do think that she is very good, but she often
sounds somewhat matronly to me.

#39 From: strauss87
Date: Mon Aug 20, 2001 11:25 pm
Subject: Milanov
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I personally dont' mind Milanov's voice. it is
beautiful, but she isn't exactly very good. it sounds like
she needs to clear her throat. and she isn't as
skilled as-lets say Callas or Tebaldi. but if she could
have gotten over this rather large set back-she would
have had a beautiful voice :)<br>Zach

#38 From: jrpsong
Date: Sat Aug 18, 2001 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: hello all!
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Hello, Zach.  Welcome to the club!  You made a very good choice for your first
opera.  I like other tenors, but Jussi is definitely in a category by himself.

#37 From: strauss87
Date: Fri Aug 17, 2001 3:27 pm
Subject: hello all!
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hi there! i'm Zach, and i just joined the club. i
am 14, and i had the pleasure of having jussi's
Tosca, with Milanov, and Warren as my first opera. i
always hate to hear other tenors now, because their
voices aren't as beautiful as his. when he sings
recondita armonia, i feel as though i will melt. <br>Zach

#36 From: hieroluwian
Date: Tue Apr 10, 2001 3:53 am
Subject: Re: Romeo et Juliette
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Hello Callas4ever,<br> Yes the Björling Sayao Met
performace was long available as an official Met LP release
(the format in which I have it). It has also been on
MYTO CDs for maybe 8 years. It is now also released on
Arkadia GoldenAges. But such recordings (these Met
pirates) are not USA available. You must order them from
out of country.<br> Ms. Callas, you know who I am and
if you write me privately I will give you more
details.<br><br>Also the Swedish complete will be released in the near
future. I like it even better.<br>Ciao,<br>Yoel

#35 From: callas4ever
Date: Mon Apr 9, 2001 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: Romeo et Juliette
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I've never heard JB's Romeo complete.  Is the recording with Sayao readily
available?

#34 From: hieroluwian
Date: Sun Apr 8, 2001 3:06 am
Subject: Romeo et Juliette
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The most amazing JB role is for me Romeo and
happily we can hear him complete in that with
Bidu<br>Sayao from the Met and in two duets with his
wife<br>Anna-Lisa in their Hollywood Bowl 1949 concert and also
with Hjordis Schymberg in the 1940 Swedish language
broadcast, which up till the present only is published in
excerpts, but will be appearing complete on Bluebell.<br>A
joy to look forward to.<br>Hello to those who log in,
but post not.<br>Yoel

#33 From: tutanekai_se
Date: Thu Dec 14, 2000 9:38 am
Subject: Re: Jussi and his brother Sigurd
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Sigurd Björling is not related in any way to Jussi. He was good singer all the
same.<br><br>Ragnar

#32 From: jrpsong
Date: Thu Nov 30, 2000 12:49 pm
Subject: Re: Jussi and his brother Sigurd
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The only recording of Jussi's with his brothers
that I have is of one song sung by them as
children.<br><br>At amazon.com, I saw a recording with various
members of the Björling family. It is
at<br><a
href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001JDW/qid=975588372/sr=1-4/106-\
3762849-8730004
target=new>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001JDW/qid=975588372/sr=1-\
4/106-37628
49-8730004</a>

#31 From: riddion
Date: Thu Nov 30, 2000 8:37 am
Subject: Jussi and his brother Sigurd
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I have recently bought a recording of Siegfried
with Sigurd Bjoerling, I was wondering if anyone knows
if Jussi did any opera recordings him. I think there
is a recording or two of Jussi with all his
brothers. Does anyone know anything of
this?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Erik

#30 From: jrpsong
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2000 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Singing in Swedish in 1930's
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I just got that Nimbus recording this morning.  I look forward to listening to
it.

#29 From: jrpsong
Date: Thu Oct 12, 2000 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: Fledermaus
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I haven't listened to that recording of Fledermaus in a long time, but it is one
of my favorites.  The "gala" sequence is especially good.

#28 From: gaglioffi
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2000 5:48 pm
Subject: Fledermaus
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Hello,<br>I listened the Bjoerling's performance in the Fledermaus by Herbert
von Karajan, 1960. Do you know this edition? Do you like th duet with Simionato
and Bastianini?<br>Marco

#27 From: jrpsong
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2000 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: Naxos compact disc
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Thanks for the information about the Rigoletto.  That is another recording that
I'll have to get!

#26 From: jrpsong
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2000 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: 1954 Cav & Pag
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I have a recording of Jussi singing some songs in
Swedish, and back when I was buying LP's I got a recording
of him in La Traviata in Swedish, but I don't have
any of his aria recordings in Swedish from the
1930's. I'll have to get that recording some time.

#25 From: riddion
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2000 7:40 am
Subject: Re: Naxos compact disc
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I agree totally. His recordings on the Arias
Naxos CD are great. I would also very much recommend
his performance as the Duke in the Rigoletto
recording, also from Naxos, with Warren Leonard and Bidú
Sayão. That one was incredible. Recorded from a Met
broadcast in 1945, were Björling, Warren and Sayão in great
form. The 'La donna e mobile' and 'Questa o quella'
arias were magnificently sung.

#24 From: callas4ever
Date: Tue Oct 10, 2000 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: 1954 Cav & Pag
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I don't have that particular recording, but I
agree: I love to hear him sing in Swedish. Do you have
the CD (I think it was released by Nimbus) of his
early recordings from the 1930s, in Swedish? It is so
beautiful!

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