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Re: warbling

--- In harmonic_entropy@y..., Carl Lumma <carl@l...> wrote:
> >>Actually, what do you think of a binaural version of this chord,
> >>and see if the warbling goes away?
> >
> >i'd want to check over the psychoacoustic literature again to
make
> >sure cubic difference tones aren't *supposed* to be audible
> >binaurally . . .
>
> How could a difference tone possibly be audible binaurally?

cubic difference tones are thought to come from a higher level of
processing than the non-linearities that cause most other
combinational tones.

> I
> thought binaural tests were one of the classic ways researchers
> showed virtual pitch to be distinct phenomena from combination
> tones.

one way i know that they've been shown to be distinct is that they
occur at different pitches when the input is a slightly inharmonic
set of partials.

> >>I hear slow beats, warbles, etc. in just chords and dyads on my
PC,
> >>Mac, and synth and I ascribe them to slight mistunings.
> >
> >right, but this was some pretty *fast* beating/warbling carl was
> >talking about . . .
>
> I wouldn't put it past some MIDI setups, but the experiment was done
> with wav files made in Matlab.

. . . tuned to the exact cent values reported.




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... chords of ... hearing a ... caused by ... i don't see how the presence of virtual pitches would help explain this. virtual pitches occur at the missing...
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... I thought you were suggesting a 2nd-order virtual pitches, if you will. ... Is there a name for 2*a-b combination tones? These are louder than a-b and a+b...
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... i'd want to check over the psychoacoustic literature again to make sure cubic difference tones aren't *supposed* to be audible binaurally . . ....
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... make ... cubic difference tones are thought to come from a higher level of processing than the non-linearities that cause most other combinational tones. ...
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