... chords of ... hearing a ... caused by ... i don't see how the presence of virtual pitches would help explain this. virtual pitches occur at the missing...
... I thought you were suggesting a 2nd-order virtual pitches, if you will. ... Is there a name for 2*a-b combination tones? These are louder than a-b and a+b...
The 2*a-b difference tone is called the "cubic difference tone" in most works I've read. I hear slow beats, warbles, etc. in just chords and dyads on my PC,...
... How could a difference tone possibly be audible binaurally? I thought binaural tests were one of the classic ways researchers showed virtual pitch to be...
... make ... cubic difference tones are thought to come from a higher level of processing than the non-linearities that cause most other combinational tones. ...
... list ... showed ... a ... nail ... and ... i take it you found the "margo" or vos-based curve more appealing? that was your "appetizer" -- the chef would...
... Ah, yes! I was so busy reading the menu that I hadn't noticed that ... 1/(m*n) ... much ... While different quantitatively, it does have the same...
... (for ... yes, but i specifically offered it to her not because of the position of the global maximum of discordance (which i wasn't even looking at at the...
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hey george, take a look at this curve: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harmonic_entropy/files/dyadic/secortst.g if i left it unlabeled for your fun and amusement...
... importance ... more ... the ... ratios). ... local ... what ... I think we're talking about the same thing, but I just didn't say it the right way. By...
I've had a few free days this week and wanted to program the harmonic entropy algorithm(s) in TrueBasic. Alas, I couldn't find them in the list archives; can...
John, I've posted my code to this list on 1 Feb. 2001. For the error function I use an approximation, this is the code: function Erf (Of_Number : Long_Float)...
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... and ... than ... bumps ... it ... but ... translate ... actually, it doesn't work that way in the harmonic entropy model. firstly, hearing harmonics is not...
... thanks manuel -- john, let us know if this can be clarified. i've also made a number of posts that sketch, conceptually, how harmonic entropy is calculated...
Manuel, Paul, etc. Thanks, I may be contacting you personally if I can't find the relevant posts or understand them. I've been experimenting with the Tonicity...
... make ... I ... making ... I guess you could put it that way. But I would like the curve to correspond to what is actually heard with musical tones (i.e.,...
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... not ... So ... the ... tones ... human voices, bowed strings, brasses, all of these can have audible harmonics into the 40s. but again, this doesn't...
... even ... We seem to be looking at this in two different (but related) ways: you're considering the tones in the intervals as partials over a missing...
... would ... consonance. ... in ... to ... waveform). ... audible ... *heard ... with ... if consonance were simply a matter of coincident partials, then ...
... a ... would ... If we're only considering intervals, then otonal/utonal has no bearing. Do you also have a calculation of harmonic entropy for chords? ...
... a ... even ... exactly. you seem to be missing my point. read it over again. are you saying that completely different factors are at work in determining...
One comment: I don't see why one would expect otonal and utonal chords spanning the same interval to be equally consonant under either Helmholztian or...