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Re: what key would you get?

--- In harptalk@yahoogroups.com, "sirbassalot55" <amfooch@...> wrote:
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> First I want to say hey to all as I'm new here.
> I'm a bass player that plays some harp. My band is primarily a country band
most of the songs are in G as I use my special twenty C. For other keys I have a
soft case that holds seven harps I have six C/D/F/G/A/Bb I want to fill the
empty slot, I can't decide whether to get Eb or E.
> Keep in mind I cover the minor key songs (not that many)with major key harps
in the third or fourth position as I'm not found of minor key diatonic harps.
> thanks in advance.
> tony
>
Hey there, Tony, Skyak in.

You've got it covered for the vast majority of everything commonly played by
typical cover bands.

I would find the next most useful harp an E, for all those straight country
tunes in E that aren't the bluesy variety you'd use an A harp to crossharp for.
The Eb in itself isn't used much in country (that I've played)as a key for
straight tunes, nor a lot of tunes you'd crossharp into Bb with it either.******

*****(Special note here, George Strait, and others, plays LOTS of tunes in Eb,
Ab, Db, B and all those "tweener" keys as you'd see if you're playing along with
the recordings/CD's. But the majority of bands doing covers are going to
"normalize" and transpose the tunes into the common keys of G, A, C, D, etc.)

If you "play outside the Country box" the next most useful harp is actually an
Ab, what I call a "Hendrix" harp. This is because it crossharps to blues in Eb.
Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and U2 (and some other groups) often tune down
their guitars a fret (semi-tone), so their open E strums are actually Eb. And
all three write a lot of songs that are either in the chordkey shape forms of
"E" (Eb actual) or in "A" (Ab actual key). So all those U2 tunes you tried to
nail but couldn't? Ab my friend.

So, E for straight country, or Ab for more usefullness for playing along with
records, guitarists that slack the strings down a bit,or bands that play tunes
exactly as recorded.

Or get a bigger case, and get a full set of 12, and never run out of easy
options for best play of ANY tune. Once you go beyond G-A-Bb-C-D-F, its time to
leave the sandbox and play in the big fields all the way. Right tools for the
right job. Invest in yourself.

Take it easy, Skyak.






Wed Jul 8, 2009 1:07 am

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First I want to say hey to all as I'm new here. I'm a bass player that plays some harp. My band is primarily a country band most of the songs are in G as I...
sirbassalot55
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Jul 7, 2009
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I myself would get Eb, but that's up to you. ... -- -Just Finished: The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway. -Currently Reading: Nothing, tomorrow going to pick...
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Jul 7, 2009
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between E and Eb , I would go for the Eb , it enables cross harp in B flat , 3rd position in Fm/ F blues.. and 4th position in Cm /Cblues and 5th position...
Paul Lee
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Jul 7, 2009
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Eb it is thanks...
sirbassalot55
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... Hey there, Tony, Skyak in. You've got it covered for the vast majority of everything commonly played by typical cover bands. I would find the next most...
skyak52
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Jul 8, 2009
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Just my 2 cents . . . Seems like you have everything covered, band wise. If you needed a specific key for a tune your band currently does, you wouldn't have...
Wayne (Reed) Knazek
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Jul 8, 2009
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... If you have a vocalist that always wants it a bit higher or lower than the key it's written in, and the guitarist obliges by just capoing to suit therte is...
pete_handy
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Jul 9, 2009
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... Skyak in. You nailed it, Pete! 6 harps are plenty, but tell that to my key/chord changing amigos, eh? They MAKE me haul around 12 so I can accomodate...
skyak52
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Certainly make the Eb your next one. Just don't make it your last one. Many reasons to have them all but for me, a full set is really a complete instrument in...
Gant Eichrodt
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... What Gant said,, !!! look at it this way,, would you truck an old piano with some of those white and black thingies missing to a gig ? money ? sure ,...
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you might also consider that Mickey Raphael sometimes uses a tremelo harp with Willie Nelson for fills and both Mickey and Charlie McCoy frequently use...
Paul Lee
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Hi,     Won't a chromatic play in any key?                                               Jack ... From:...
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... Yes, Pete...
pete_handy
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... sure for melody, and lead solos ,, but not chords in any key,, it will play a lot of "2 note chords" (Diads as opposed to Triads, diads are not chords.. ...
Paul Lee
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Yes, but a chromatic, or even a slide harp just doesn't have the same sound. Also, by using bends, over draws, and over blows a single diatonic can play in all...
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... I got a nice old Koch Chromatic, got everything juicy and functioning, knew enough about music theory to play it in a few key with more sharps and flats,...
skyak52
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Jul 10, 2009
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Skyak, exactly my point, and why I have the full set of 12 diatonics plus the low F and high G, and a few other specialty tuned harps just for certain songs. I...
walter wood
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... Gee, Walter, ya don't want a "What Would Levy Do?" tee shirt? Yeah, I like Diatonics for what do, how they sound, they have limits, and there's good stuff...
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... aha great minds Do think alike I spent some time trying to overblow,, its all the rage among the Delta Frost players ( odd , as the one thing Delta Frosts...
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What I said!!!!! W Walter Wood United TV Service 501 Poplar St. Pulaski Tn. 38478 ... From: skyak52 <skyak52@...> Subject: [HarpTalk] Re: what key would...
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I found that some country tunes are in F sharp and I always keep a B harp around. That's my experience. F sharp is a popular rock key too. Peace Love and...
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