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#107 From: NickJYD@...
Date: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:26 am
Subject: Re: Are you planning to buy a laptop?
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This is supposed to be a group about one of the greatest cellists and teachers to ever live and now people are trying to sell us crap?


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#104 From: Dorothy Braker <drbraker@...>
Date: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:59 am
Subject: Re: NYC Events
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Good luck, Jen. I have been there and I hope things go well for you. Being so far away in New Hampshire now, I am out of touch but I understand completely.
-Dorothy Braker

"Participation is what's gonna save the human race..."

Pete Seeger

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, jkathb <jkathb@...> wrote:
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Subject: [harveyshapirocello] NYC Events
To: harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 10:36 PM

Hi all,

Talented artists have a hard time getting audiences to support their events and this group is
for them and their supporters.

These are the truly gifted artists that don't have the media and/or the "right" people behind
them.

Whether it's a writer, an actor, a singer, a painter, photographer, director ... many of these
artists find that audiences are not there when the work is shown.

Please let them and art lovers know about the group.

Thanks in advance for the support,

Jen

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Date: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:36 am
Subject: NYC Events
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Hi all,

Talented artists have a hard time getting audiences to support their events and
this group is
for them and their supporters.

These are the truly gifted artists that don't have the media and/or the "right"
people behind
them.

Whether it's a writer, an actor, a singer, a painter, photographer, director ...
many of these
artists find that audiences are not there when the work is shown.

Please let them and art lovers know about the group.

Thanks in advance for the support,

Jen

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#92 From: allisoneldredge@...
Date: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:19 am
Subject: Re: I sent you a message but haven't heard back from you!
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Hi All my dear Shapiro colleagues.

It has been a thrill to read your thoughts and to know that you are all still around. Especially with Harvey gone, it means all the more to me to know that we all share a similar love of Harvey with many common feelings and experiences to draw from in Harvey's absence. Myriam, Stefan, Josh, Amanda, David: It has been so cool to see your messages. It has taken me back to many memories I have of all of you.

I'm sorry for waiting so long to write. I have found it a struggle to write my feelings about Harvey down. I was very upset when I heard about his passing and I guess I will continue to wrestle with my sadness along with you for years to come. I miss him and love him. I definitely prefer focusing on the hilarious moments and his most beautiful playing. It was a blessing to hear him play at every lesson. It is to this day the most beautiful cello playing I have ever witnessed. Hearing him play and trying to decipher his screaming was a humbling experience to say the least. When I heard him play for me last was about a year before he past away. His pitch sense was still dead on and the color and timing were all there. And although he could hardly see by then, he could still make me laugh. He always seemed to know exactly how to make me feel as insignificant as one can feel, too, of course. He wouldn't be Harvey if he didn't make you feel dumb and dumber. But I'm the one who kept going back for more, so I can only blame myself. What a character...they sure don't make 'em like that anymore.
I hope you're all well.
Love,
ae

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Fri, 2 May 2008 7:46 am
Subject: Re: [harveyshapirocello] I sent you a message but haven't heard back from you!

Hi...I didnÂīt receive a message from you. When I click this link, I get a page where i have to login....is this correct???

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#89 From: Nestor Cybriwsky <cybr@...>
Date: Sat May 17, 2008 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: Harvey's Thomas Dodd Bow
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So what happened to this bow??
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [harveyshapirocello] Harvey's Thomas Dodd Bow

Hi Amanda,

The one I am selling is the one he used in the
lessons. He had two. The John (or James?) Dodd was the
96 gram one. He used to practice and teach one mine
(Thomas Dodd) but perform with the other one.

I always thought this one was the nicer sounding bow,
but the other one had a great heavy spicatto. It was a
little too heavy for me. This one, (Thomas) might be a
little too soft for some people. Also, the spicatto is
farther out than on most bows since its tip heavy. It
is also longer than other bows. I have some pictures
of it which I can send you if you are interested. I
have been playing my John Dodd mostly and dont like
leaving Harvey's bow in the case backstage. I would
rather have one that is a bit more stiff and cheaper.
(no wisecracks!)

Email me directly (stefankartman@yahoo.com) and I will
reply with pictures. Already forgot your email.

Sincerely,
Stefan


--- Amanda Forsyth <testore1699@yahoo.com> wrote:

> is this the bow that weighs 96 grams????? I cant
> imagine you using such a heavy bow? I play ona
> LeeGuthrie modern bow,but would just love to know if
> you are selling the heavy Dodd!!
> love Amanda
> --- StefanKartman <stefankartman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I have been saying goodbye to Harvey bit by bit
> over
> > the past couple
> > of months. Jeannie and I talk about him often. My
> > students are hearing
> > about him too (as usual).
> >
> > Anyway, I finally decided to sell the bow I bought
> > from him while I
> > was his pupil. Those of you who were with him in
> the
> > 80's (perhaps
> > before?) might remember it since he taught and
> > played on the Thomas
> > Dodd while performing with the John Dodd.
> >
> > I have a John Dodd as well that he helped me to
> find
> > which I have
> > played on ever since. Every time I play a concert,
> > his bow sits in my
> > case backstage and I am always nervous about it. I
> > would rather have a
> > lesser bow that is more like my performance bow in
> > feel, in the case.
> >
> > I plan on putting it with Bein and Fushi soon, but
> > thought I should
> > give old Harvey students the chance at it first. I
> > have pictures which
> > I can forward to you if you are interested (I
> didn't
> > want to clutter
> > up the website with business).
> >
> > It has a soft feel, beautiful tone, ringing
> spicatto
> > if a bit
> > difficult to manage, and is longer and heavier
> than
> > a standard cello bow.
> >
> > B&F just sold a Thomas Dodd to one of my students
> > for $18,500. I plan
> > to sell for the same. Bought it from Harvey for
> 15K,
> > but that was many
> > years ago.
> >
> > I hope everyone is well.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Stefan Kartman
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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#88 From: Joshua Gordon <gordon@...>
Date: Fri May 2, 2008 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: I sent you a message but haven't heard back from you!
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hi myriam,

it's been a while, i hope you're doing well. i wouldn't click that link, that sounds like somebody trying to lure you into a phishing trap, especially with an email address like that.

best,
josh

.
On May 2, 2008, at 7:46 AM, Myriam Santucci wrote:


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#87 From: Myriam Santucci <skydvnbabe@...>
Date: Fri May 2, 2008 11:46 am
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#85 From: Dorothy Braker <drbraker@...>
Date: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:26 am
Subject: RE: replies
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HA! how funny. sort of ;-)

It helped that I was every bit as hard on myself as he was, but of course that
becomes a
double-edged sword doesn't it. I don't think he ever heard me perform except
when Karl
and I were both learning the Elgar Concerto and only one of us was to actually
compete in
the Juilliard concerto competition. Karl and I both knew that he was the one who
had been
chosen, it wasn't a 'secret'. Harvey was shocked that I knew how to perform.
That was
only the first time I really got ticked. How could he know how we played if we
only
played 30 seconds at a time? How could he get a real idea of how to fix a
problem?
Anyhow, he was very very good at what he did, I just felt it lacked a certain
depth and
that I ultimately stayed way too long.

-Dorothy


--- Diane Chaplin <cello@...> wrote:

> Yes, I remember vividly that he attended my master's recital, because after
> the concert instead of saying the nice things that other teachers might say,
> he barked out, "You were flat! You tuned your cello flat!" And you know,
> when I listened to the tape, my strings were a tad flat it turned out.
>
> --D
>
>


      
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#84 From: "Diane Chaplin" <cello@...>
Date: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:36 am
Subject: RE: replies
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Yes, I remember vividly that he attended my master’s recital, because after the concert instead of saying the nice things that other teachers might say, he barked out, “You were flat! You tuned your cello flat!” And you know, when I listened to the tape, my strings were a tad flat it turned out.

--D

 


Amanda wrote:

Harvey actually saw you onstage? I am doubtful of that, he so rarely went to
actual concerts in my days with him...in this case,
you are blessed!
--- Diane Chaplin <cello@coloradoquartet.com> wrote:

> I don't think anyone ever played more than 10 bars
> of anything! I remember
> being very frustrated with Bach - C minor Suite in
> particular. I wanted to
> have some overview of the fugue, and Harvey never
> did heard the whole thing
> until I was on stage.

.



#83 From: Stefan Kartman <stefankartman@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Harvey's Thomas Dodd Bow
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Hi Amanda,

The one I am selling is the one he used in the
lessons. He had two. The John (or James?) Dodd was the
96 gram one. He used to practice and teach one mine
(Thomas Dodd) but perform with the other one.

I always thought this one was the nicer sounding bow,
but the other one had a great heavy spicatto. It was a
little too heavy for me. This one, (Thomas) might be a
little too soft for some people. Also, the spicatto is
farther out than on most bows since its tip heavy. It
is also longer than other bows. I have some pictures
of it which I can send you if you are interested. I
have been playing my John Dodd mostly and dont like
leaving Harvey's bow in the case backstage. I would
rather have one that is a bit more stiff and cheaper.
(no wisecracks!)

Email me directly (stefankartman@...) and I will
reply with pictures. Already forgot your email.

Sincerely,
Stefan



--- Amanda Forsyth <testore1699@...> wrote:

> is this the bow that weighs 96 grams????? I cant
> imagine you using such a heavy bow? I play ona
> LeeGuthrie modern bow,but would just love to know if
> you are selling the heavy Dodd!!
> love Amanda
> --- StefanKartman <stefankartman@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I have been saying goodbye to Harvey bit by bit
> over
> > the past couple
> > of months. Jeannie and I talk about him often. My
> > students are hearing
> > about him too (as usual).
> >
> > Anyway, I finally decided to sell the bow I bought
> > from him while I
> > was his pupil. Those of you who were with him in
> the
> > 80's (perhaps
> > before?) might remember it since he taught and
> > played on the Thomas
> > Dodd while performing with the John Dodd.
> >
> > I have a John Dodd as well that he helped me to
> find
> > which I have
> > played on ever since. Every time I play a concert,
> > his bow sits in my
> > case backstage and I am always nervous about it. I
> > would rather have a
> > lesser bow that is more like my performance bow in
> > feel, in the case.
> >
> > I plan on putting it with Bein and Fushi soon, but
> > thought I should
> > give old Harvey students the chance at it first. I
> > have pictures which
> > I can forward to you if you are interested (I
> didn't
> > want to clutter
> > up the website with business).
> >
> > It has a soft feel, beautiful tone, ringing
> spicatto
> > if a bit
> > difficult to manage, and is longer and heavier
> than
> > a standard cello bow.
> >
> > B&F just sold a Thomas Dodd to one of my students
> > for $18,500. I plan
> > to sell for the same. Bought it from Harvey for
> 15K,
> > but that was many
> > years ago.
> >
> > I hope everyone is well.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Stefan Kartman
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>


Stefan Kartman, Associate Professor
Peck School of the Arts - Music
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
PO Box 413, Milwaukee, WI 53202-0413


      
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#82 From: Amanda Forsyth <testore1699@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:02 pm
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you are totally right!!! But then again, if one cannot
make a perfect statement with the opening of any
piece, then what is the point of the rest of it? Thats
what I always told myself! Yes, Haydn D for me, and
Lalo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Harvey actually saw you
onstage? I am doubtful of that, he so rarely went to
actual concerts in my days with him...in this case,
you are blessed!
--- Diane Chaplin <cello@...> wrote:

> I don't think anyone ever played more than 10 bars
> of anything! I remember
> being very frustrated with Bach - C minor Suite in
> particular. I wanted to
> have some overview of the fugue, and Harvey never
> did heard the whole thing
> until I was on stage.
>
> --D
>
>
>
> Regarding the '10 measures of each piece in the
> cello repertoire' I have to
> also laugh,
> speaking of perfectionism. I still, to this day, can
> play all but the first
> - not 10, but
> 4 - measures of the Haydn D Major concerto pretty
> darn well, but that first
> 4 measures I
> still get psyched out from spending, if I remember
> correctly, almost 3
> months 'screwing
> them up' over and over in Harvey's studio until I
> finally got up the courage
> to just move
> on to something else and hope that he forgot what I
> was supposed to be
> 'learning'.
> Unfortunately, I am not able to remember if I
> learned anything from that
> particular
> exercise. I am willing to bet that will haunt me for
> years to come. Does
> everybody else
> have pieces that they especially remember playing
> just '10 measures' of?
>
>
>
>



      
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#81 From: Amanda Forsyth <testore1699@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: too many memories (from a non-cellist)
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and I thank you for playing my Juilliard audition!
Back in 1984! Strauss sonata, and Shostakovich #1 I
think?Hope you are well,,,regards from Amanda
--- davidkorevaar <korevaar@...> wrote:

> I'm not too experienced with the news-group thing -
> thanks to Joshua
> for setting this one up. I certainly see many
> friends on the list of
> posters.
> For five years, I spent three evenings a week in
> Harvey's studio as a
> pianist - waiting for you guys to show up to play
> the first 10 bars of
> whatever piece you had. Nowhere else could I have
> a)learned the first
> 10 bars of most of the cello repertoire, b)learned
> to like the smell
> of cigar smoke, c)learned to appreciate a teacher
> who could be so
> profane with students, d)learned so much about the
> physical approach
> to playing any instrument (including my own) - at a
> certain point I
> urged at least one of my violin-playing friends to
> come play for
> Harvey, she did and loved it, e)had so much fun
> learning so much and
> getting to know someone of the same generation as my
> piano teacher
> (with whom Harvey had recorded the Rachmaninoff
> Sonata many many years
> earlier). I looked forward to the evenings when no
> students showed up
> and Harvey decided that we would play something
> (often Rachmaninoff
> Sonata); it was also a special pleasure to play with
> Harvey when he
> felt like demonstrating for a student. I have said
> to various people
> over the years that I learned as much from Harvey as
> from any teacher
> I worked with - I know he will be missed by many. It
> was a privilege
> to know him and to work with him and with so many of
> you.
> David Korevaar
> Boulder, Colorado.
>
>



      
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#80 From: Amanda Forsyth <testore1699@...>
Date: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: Harvey's Thomas Dodd Bow
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is this the bow that weighs 96 grams????? I cant
imagine you using such a heavy bow? I play ona
LeeGuthrie modern bow,but would just love to know if
you are selling the heavy Dodd!!
love Amanda
--- StefanKartman <stefankartman@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have been saying goodbye to Harvey bit by bit over
> the past couple
> of months. Jeannie and I talk about him often. My
> students are hearing
> about him too (as usual).
>
> Anyway, I finally decided to sell the bow I bought
> from him while I
> was his pupil. Those of you who were with him in the
> 80's (perhaps
> before?) might remember it since he taught and
> played on the Thomas
> Dodd while performing with the John Dodd.
>
> I have a John Dodd as well that he helped me to find
> which I have
> played on ever since. Every time I play a concert,
> his bow sits in my
> case backstage and I am always nervous about it. I
> would rather have a
> lesser bow that is more like my performance bow in
> feel, in the case.
>
> I plan on putting it with Bein and Fushi soon, but
> thought I should
> give old Harvey students the chance at it first. I
> have pictures which
> I can forward to you if you are interested (I didn't
> want to clutter
> up the website with business).
>
> It has a soft feel, beautiful tone, ringing spicatto
> if a bit
> difficult to manage, and is longer and heavier than
> a standard cello bow.
>
> B&F just sold a Thomas Dodd to one of my students
> for $18,500. I plan
> to sell for the same. Bought it from Harvey for 15K,
> but that was many
> years ago.
>
> I hope everyone is well.
>
> Sincerely,
> Stefan Kartman
>
>



      
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#79 From: "Jose Arias" <joseariasluna@...>
Date: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:00 am
Subject: Re: Hey all, re:Muffin
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Thanks you to for playing for Mr. Shapiro, I'm sure he felt it.




--- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, "d.mollenauer"
<d.mollenauer@...> wrote:
>
> I wanted all of you to know I dedicated my performance in San
Antonio of an elegy for cello
> and piano by Tyler White to Harvey this past Monday and Tuesday
night. I think it was a
> fitting tribute not only because of the lyrical writing for the
cello but also because of the title.
> ( this little inside joke I did not share with the audience) "
Elegy for the Orfans of Terror " I
> think Harvey would have laughed. I loved him like a father. He was
a bigger than life at times
> and always a character. I can't even begin to address his playing
and his teaching. So many
> thing are running through my head right now. We must continue to
remember and carry on
> what he gave to us. Speaking of,  the slight pulling out of the
string or pushing in correlates
> to the pulling/pushing of the bow as Shepps stated. This really
frees up your tone. I'm sure
> we'll be discussing and sharing a lot of Harvey's annecdotes.
Thank-you Josh for setting this
> group up and posting so many wonderful photos. I'm celebrating
Harvey's life tonight with a
> cuban and some good scotch after my concert.  I wish we were all
together for that. We will
> be in spirit ( liquid or otherwise) I'm sure!
>

#78 From: "Jose Arias" <joseariasluna@...>
Date: Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: Hey all, re:Muffin
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--- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, "d.mollenauer"
<d.mollenauer@...> wrote:
>
> I wanted all of you to know I dedicated my performance in San
Antonio of an elegy for cello
> and piano by Tyler White to Harvey this past Monday and Tuesday
night. I think it was a
> fitting tribute not only because of the lyrical writing for the
cello but also because of the title.
> ( this little inside joke I did not share with the audience) "
Elegy for the Orfans of Terror " I
> think Harvey would have laughed. I loved him like a father. He was
a bigger than life at times
> and always a character. I can't even begin to address his playing
and his teaching. So many
> thing are running through my head right now. We must continue to
remember and carry on
> what he gave to us. Speaking of,  the slight pulling out of the
string or pushing in correlates
> to the pulling/pushing of the bow as Shepps stated. This really
frees up your tone. I'm sure
> we'll be discussing and sharing a lot of Harvey's annecdotes.
Thank-you Josh for setting this
> group up and posting so many wonderful photos. I'm celebrating
Harvey's life tonight with a
> cuban and some good scotch after my concert.  I wish we were all
together for that. We will
> be in spirit ( liquid or otherwise) I'm sure!
>

#77 From: "Diane Chaplin" <cello@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:48 am
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I don’t think anyone ever played more than 10 bars of anything! I remember being very frustrated with Bach – C minor Suite in particular. I wanted to have some overview of the fugue, and Harvey never did heard the whole thing until I was on stage.

--D

 

Regarding the '10 measures of each piece in the cello repertoire' I have to also laugh,
speaking of perfectionism. I still, to this day, can play all but the first - not 10, but
4 - measures of the Haydn D Major concerto pretty darn well, but that first 4 measures I
still get psyched out from spending, if I remember correctly, almost 3 months 'screwing
them up' over and over in Harvey's studio until I finally got up the courage to just move
on to something else and hope that he forgot what I was supposed to be 'learning'.
Unfortunately, I am not able to remember if I learned anything from that particular
exercise. I am willing to bet that will haunt me for years to come. Does everybody else
have pieces that they especially remember playing just '10 measures' of?


#76 From: Dorothy Braker <drbraker@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:05 pm
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oh gosh you scared me Pepe! Good, glad I didn't upset you. I have shed my "thick
skin"
earned over 5 painful years (to me) at Juilliard and try not to, as we say here,
'stick
my foot in my mouth' too often.

I am only now starting to teach, younger students as I am in New Hampshire, at
least a
world away from you, and have discovered sadly that the instruction is not
anywhere near
the level it should be, as close as we are to Boston. I should much prefer to
take
students at a higher level, as I haven't trained as an educator, but one must
start
somewhere especially where I now live. I have gotten to know many of the
cellists in the
area and get a feel for what the music is like here, and the more I know the
more upset I
get that there is so little high quality music going on here.

I think it's funny that Harvey would say his solo was lousy. He probably said
that about
most of his performances. What a perfectionist. I would love to someday figure
out what
exactly it was that he heard in his head! It must have been something amazing!

Regarding the '10 measures of each piece in the cello repertoire' I have to also
laugh,
speaking of perfectionism. I still, to this day, can play all but the first -
not 10, but
4 - measures of the Haydn D Major concerto pretty darn well, but that first 4
measures I
still get psyched out from spending, if I remember correctly, almost 3 months
'screwing
them up' over and over in Harvey's studio until I finally got up the courage to
just move
on to something else and hope that he forgot what I was supposed to be
'learning'.
Unfortunately, I am not able to remember if I learned anything from that
particular
exercise. I am willing to bet that will haunt me for years to come. Does
everybody else
have pieces that they especially remember playing just '10 measures' of?

~Peace starts with a smile~


      
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#75 From: "Jose Arias" <joseariasluna@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:30 pm
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I do am sure he played the solo, he told me many times, there were 2
days recording and one afternoon for the 3th. movement. Anyway he said
that the solo "were lousy".




--- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, "Joshua Gordon"
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>
> I posted a link (see lefthand column) to an mp3 of what I am pretty
sure is Harvey playing the
> Brahms 2nd Piano Concerto solo with Artur Rubinstein and the RCA
Victor Symphony
> Orchestra conducted by Josef Krips, recorded in NYC in 1958. Correct
me if I'm wrong; the
> disc unfortunately doesn't credit the cello soloist. Soulful,
beautiful playing. JG
>

#74 From: "Jose Arias" <joseariasluna@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: the highest master,RIP
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Please, Dorothy, it was a joke, we are all in the same level , the
love to Mr. Shapiro. If you want to make me feel better call me
Pepe, is the usual to say Jose.
You know I teach here in Xalapa and I start tomorrow, I have
severalstudents who have been in S Miguel, Im going to ask them.
Where are you? I ' like to know , are you teaching? One never knows
if there are possibilities to do something, now I'm trying to send
some students to UNM. Well, I dont wnat annoy you anymore, best
wishes, Pepe





--- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, Dorothy Braker
<drbraker@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- Jose Arias <joseariasluna@...> wrote:
>
> > Dear Dorothy, (may I call you this way?)
> > Yes, it is far away from Xalapa to S Miguel, I was there once
with
> > the manhattan string quartet in 1982. Since that time I never
went
> > back there, anyway I'm going to investigate about him. Is he
> > mexican? or where is him from?
> > I'll let you know if I get some news from there. Best regards,
Jose
>
> I apologize Jose, I should not have used your first name so
familiarly when I first
> wrote. Here in the States, we do not stand on ceremony and of
course you are welcome to
> use my first name. The gentleman I am speaking about is Alan
Grishman. He is a bit older
> now, in his seventies, but was at one time the youngest violinist
ever invited to be a
> part of the Casals Festival Orchestra. He is has now married a
woman in San Miguel and
> lives there happily, but has little chamber music which was his
great passion. I just
> thought it best to ask as I know how starved he is to play and I
know how well he plays.
>
> -Dorothy Braker
>
> ~Peace starts with a smile~
>
>
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#73 From: "davidkorevaar" <korevaar@...>
Date: Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:00 am
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I'm not too experienced with the news-group thing - thanks to Joshua
for setting this one up. I certainly see many friends on the list of
posters.
For five years, I spent three evenings a week in Harvey's studio as a
pianist - waiting for you guys to show up to play the first 10 bars of
whatever piece you had. Nowhere else could I have a)learned the first
10 bars of most of the cello repertoire, b)learned to like the smell
of cigar smoke, c)learned to appreciate a teacher who could be so
profane with students, d)learned so much about the physical approach
to playing any instrument (including my own) - at a certain point I
urged at least one of my violin-playing friends to come play for
Harvey, she did and loved it, e)had so much fun learning so much and
getting to know someone of the same generation as my piano teacher
(with whom Harvey had recorded the Rachmaninoff Sonata many many years
earlier). I looked forward to the evenings when no students showed up
and Harvey decided that we would play something (often Rachmaninoff
Sonata); it was also a special pleasure to play with Harvey when he
felt like demonstrating for a student. I have said to various people
over the years that I learned as much from Harvey as from any teacher
I worked with - I know he will be missed by many. It was a privilege
to know him and to work with him and with so many of you.
David Korevaar
Boulder, Colorado.

#72 From: Dorothy Braker <drbraker@...>
Date: Wed Jan 2, 2008 12:13 am
Subject: Re: Re: the highest master,RIP
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--- Jose Arias <joseariasluna@...> wrote:

> Dear Dorothy, (may I call you this way?)
> Yes, it is far away from Xalapa to S Miguel, I was there once with
> the manhattan string quartet in 1982. Since that time I never went
> back there, anyway I'm going to investigate about him. Is he
> mexican? or where is him from?
> I'll let you know if I get some news from there. Best regards, Jose

I apologize Jose, I should not have used your first name so familiarly when I
first
wrote. Here in the States, we do not stand on ceremony and of course you are
welcome to
use my first name. The gentleman I am speaking about is Alan Grishman. He is a
bit older
now, in his seventies, but was at one time the youngest violinist ever invited
to be a
part of the Casals Festival Orchestra. He is has now married a woman in San
Miguel and
lives there happily, but has little chamber music which was his great passion. I
just
thought it best to ask as I know how starved he is to play and I know how well
he plays.

-Dorothy Braker

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#71 From: "Jose Arias" <joseariasluna@...>
Date: Tue Jan 1, 2008 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: Saint Shapiro
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I understand you, for me it was abot the same, I stop visiting him
because it was very hard for me to say "bye,ciao,  see you next time"
He answered "if I am still here".
After that I called him once a week or more but always afraid he was
not there to answer. The day it happens was to strong for me, I was
not able to believe and besides  I did not have any notice from him
until I friend called me to give me the bad new.best regards, Jose





--- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, "shoyujien" <vcjanet@...>
wrote:
>
> I still can believe that Harvey will not be there to answer the
> phone anymore... For the past 17 years, I would try to go to NY
> every year and pay him surprise visits...As time went by, this
> eventually became a pattern, because I was afraid to call and hear
> someone else's voice...
>
> I arranged for Harvey to play a recital in Taipei several years
> ago.  As you all know he fell the day he arrived and broke his
hip,
> and 2 days later I flew back to NY with him with a nurse on the
> side, went directly to ER from the airplane. I have always felt
that
> this accident started the undermining of his health, and blame
> myself for not taking better care of him.
>
> This July I spend 8 days in NY just to spend some time with him,
> going over to 20N everyday for a few hours, watch him practice on
> the cello Landon made for him, watch (listen) the Yankee games...
> You all must know that he still played like no one can, even with
a
> recently broken right arm... (By the way, Akira Osawa arrived from
> Japan the day I leave to take 2 weeks lessons with him.)
>
> There was a CD made of his Japan recital.  If anyone is interested
> in getting it, I could try to contact Mori for more details.
>
> I think it would be the biggest regret of my life that he never
> played in Taiwan, but I am sure Saint Shapiro will forgive me
> because he knows how much I love and admire him.
>

#70 From: "Jose Arias" <joseariasluna@...>
Date: Tue Jan 1, 2008 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: the highest master,RIP
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Dear Dorothy, (may I call you this way?)
Yes, it is far away from Xalapa to S Miguel, I was there once with
the manhattan string quartet in 1982. Since that time I never went
back there, anyway I'm going to investigate about him. Is he
mexican? or where is him from?
I'll let you know if I get some news from there. Best regards, Jose








--- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, Dorothy Braker
<drbraker@...> wrote:
>
> Welcome, Jose, and thank you for your beautiful words. Your
english is wonderful and your
> sentiments are also wonderful. You have some very special memories
of a Harvey we all
> knew and loved.
>
> I do have one irrelevant question, I know you live far from San
Miguel but I do know of
> an excellent violinist who lives there and has since married
somebody there. If you ever
> have the occasion to be there let me know. He is recovering from
breaking some bones in
> his hands but hopefully they will heal.
>
> -Dorothy Braker (drbraker@...)
>
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#69 From: "Jose Arias" <joseariasluna@...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:23 am
Subject: Re: loaded to youtube, memoriam Harvey
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--- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, "Dorothy Yopp Braker"
<drbraker@...> wrote:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=yyRY9OGpo1E
>
> I played the Vocalise at the end of my recital a week ago, and gave
> the listeners a picture of an oversized Leprechaun striding around my
> cello waiving a Cuban cigar and yelling invectives as he strode. Then
> I told them that nobody had as beautiful a cello sound nor have I
ever
> seen his ability to bring a beautiful sound out of a student matched.
> I hope I did it justice.

I just wanted to say you, Dorothy, "Thank you" for playing for Mr.
Shapiro, the most great cellist, musician , teacher, and friend.
                             Sincerely yours Jose Arias
>

#68 From: Nestor Cybriwsky <cybr@...>
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:57 am
Subject: Re: Harvey's Thomas Dodd Bow
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I was a student of Harvey's from 1976 to 1980 and would very much like to see the bow. Please call me home evenings is 516-365-1891 else cel 917-846-8024. I am in NYC tomorrow (Wed) in case you are around else will make an appt to see the bow - I do remember a Dodd but not sure which one I tried.
 
                                                                            Nestor Cybriwsky
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: [harveyshapirocello] Harvey's Thomas Dodd Bow

Hi Everyone,

I have been saying goodbye to Harvey bit by bit over the past couple
of months. Jeannie and I talk about him often. My students are hearing
about him too (as usual).

Anyway, I finally decided to sell the bow I bought from him while I
was his pupil. Those of you who were with him in the 80's (perhaps
before?) might remember it since he taught and played on the Thomas
Dodd while performing with the John Dodd.

I have a John Dodd as well that he helped me to find which I have
played on ever since. Every time I play a concert, his bow sits in my
case backstage and I am always nervous about it. I would rather have a
lesser bow that is more like my performance bow in feel, in the case.

I plan on putting it with Bein and Fushi soon, but thought I should
give old Harvey students the chance at it first. I have pictures which
I can forward to you if you are interested (I didn't want to clutter
up the website with business).

It has a soft feel, beautiful tone, ringing spicatto if a bit
difficult to manage, and is longer and heavier than a standard cello bow.

B&F just sold a Thomas Dodd to one of my students for $18,500. I plan
to sell for the same. Bought it from Harvey for 15K, but that was many
years ago.

I hope everyone is well.

Sincerely,
Stefan Kartman


#67 From: "StefanKartman" <stefankartman@...>
Date: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:14 pm
Subject: Harvey's Thomas Dodd Bow
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Hi Everyone,

I have been saying goodbye to Harvey bit by bit over the past couple
of months. Jeannie and I talk about him often. My students are hearing
about him too (as usual).

Anyway, I finally decided to sell the bow I bought from him while I
was his pupil. Those of you who were with him in the 80's (perhaps
before?) might remember it since he taught and played on the Thomas
Dodd while performing with the John Dodd.

I have a John Dodd as well that he helped me to find which I have
played on ever since. Every time I play a concert, his bow sits in my
case backstage and I am always nervous about it. I would rather have a
lesser bow that is more like my performance bow in feel, in the case.

I plan on putting it with Bein and Fushi soon, but thought I should
give old Harvey students the chance at it first. I have pictures which
I can forward to you if you are interested (I didn't want to clutter
up the website with business).

It has a soft feel, beautiful tone, ringing spicatto if a bit
difficult to manage, and is longer and heavier than a standard cello bow.

B&F just sold a Thomas Dodd to one of my students for $18,500. I plan
to sell for the same. Bought it from Harvey for 15K, but that was many
years ago.

I hope everyone is well.

Sincerely,
Stefan Kartman

#66 From: "Dorothy Yopp Braker" <drbraker@...>
Date: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:34 pm
Subject: loaded to youtube, memoriam Harvey
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=yyRY9OGpo1E

I played the Vocalise at the end of my recital a week ago, and gave
the listeners a picture of an oversized Leprechaun striding around my
cello waiving a Cuban cigar and yelling invectives as he strode. Then
I told them that nobody had as beautiful a cello sound nor have I ever
seen his ability to bring a beautiful sound out of a student matched.
I hope I did it justice.

#65 From: Amanda Forsyth <testore1699@...>
Date: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: Re: one liners
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This is like my story from when i was 15,...(slightly
x rated,...Josh said it was a brave post!!)

But, the last class I played in the room before I
graduated, he was ranting and raving a bit,...then
paused, looked at me closely,...and then did his
little giggle that always reminded me of YODA from
Star Wars,...and said "Amanda's the only one I've ever
had who's never cried...and I am gonna make you cry
one day,dammit!!"...to which I replied..."too late!!"
(even though we all know that of course I usually
cried, but only once the door was shut behind me!
Thanks to him, I learnt how to have a strong
backbone,...eve if only outwardly...!!
--- Diane Chaplin <cello@...> wrote:

> Hey Nester - nice to "see" you.
> It wasn't my ass he was calling fat, but I did hear
> him say it to
> someone.
>
> I also had an interesting thing happen, which was
> that during my
> first semester at Juilliard I became really
> frustrated with his
> verbal abuse and stopped going much for lessons.
> This was during a
> time when he would have us come in every day for a
> 10 minute lesson.
> So I got called into the studio and he abused me
> some more about not
> showing up, at which point I burst into tears and
> yelled at him that
> he could go ahead and kick me out of his studio if
> he wanted to, but
> that I couldn't function with him yelling at me all
> the time. And
> strangely, showing him strength impressed him. He
> was super nice to
> me from that time onwards. Time and again I saw him
> turn in an
> instant from being nasty to someone to being
> completely sweet to me.
> --Diane
>
> --- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, Nestor
> Cybriwsky
> <cybr@...> wrote:
> >
> > you didn't have a fat ass
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Diane Chaplin
> >   To: harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:35 PM
> >   Subject: [harveyshapirocello] one liners
> >
> >
> >   "You like that shitty tone, don't you?"
> >   "Move your fat ass when you play."
> >
> >   --Diane
> >
>
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#64 From: Amanda Forsyth <testore1699@...>
Date: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:52 pm
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we all had fat asses if we were female!!just so he
could feel them to see!!

dont forget this one:

"the trouble with you kids is you like the smell of
your own shit!!!"
(I now use this sometimes when teaching!!!)
--- Nestor Cybriwsky <cybr@...> wrote:

> you didn't have a fat ass
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Diane Chaplin
>   To: harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:35 PM
>   Subject: [harveyshapirocello] one liners
>
>
>   "You like that shitty tone, don't you?"
>   "Move your fat ass when you play."
>
>   --Diane
>
>
>
>



      
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#63 From: "Diane Chaplin" <cello@...>
Date: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: one liners
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Hey Nester - nice to "see" you.
It wasn't my ass he was calling fat, but I did hear him say it to
someone.

I also had an interesting thing happen, which was that during my
first semester at Juilliard I became really frustrated with his
verbal abuse and stopped going much for lessons. This was during a
time when he would have us come in every day for a 10 minute lesson.
So I got called into the studio and he abused me some more about not
showing up, at which point I burst into tears and yelled at him that
he could go ahead and kick me out of his studio if he wanted to, but
that I couldn't function with him yelling at me all the time. And
strangely, showing him strength impressed him. He was super nice to
me from that time onwards. Time and again I saw him turn in an
instant from being nasty to someone to being completely sweet to me.
--Diane

--- In harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com, Nestor Cybriwsky
<cybr@...> wrote:
>
> you didn't have a fat ass
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Diane Chaplin
>   To: harveyshapirocello@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:35 PM
>   Subject: [harveyshapirocello] one liners
>
>
>   "You like that shitty tone, don't you?"
>   "Move your fat ass when you play."
>
>   --Diane
>

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