Dear Alan, I am sorry to learn that you are suffering from anachronitis. Best wishes. David David Lasocki, Ph.D. Head of Reference Services, Cook Music...
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May 1, 2009 10:28 am
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Jokes aside, now I'm very curious to know what an oboe de Simon is. Could it possibly refer to the maker? As in: the oboe Simon made? Sarah ... From: "David...
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May 1, 2009 12:58 pm
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Dear Sarah, ... Remember that Beck, whose first name was not Simon, was advertising instruments that he made himself. Therefore your ingenious theory is...
Lasocki, David
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May 1, 2009 1:35 pm
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Is that "Simon" in handwriting? Could it possibly read as something else? 2009/5/1 <sarahsw@...>...
Dear Jordi, ... Could it possibly read as something else? No it’s an advertisement in a newspaper. Of course, the typesetter could have misread Beck’s...
Lasocki, David
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May 1, 2009 1:46 pm
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I'm with Sarah in hoping we can actually turn something up here! Given the scant amount of info on the hautboy in Colonial America, this is Intriguing. From...
David, .....maybe it¹s an oboe d¹amore?? Simon = the god of Marriage, Hymen?? Best, Sand ... Re: [hautboyresearch] Oboe de Simon David, .....maybe its an...
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May 1, 2009 2:49 pm
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All I find on p. 457 is an oboist in Madrid in 1701 Jacques Simeon Mangot, unless I'm missing something. ... From: "William Thauer" <thauer@...> To:...
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May 1, 2009 2:51 pm
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It does (!), by clearly removing a possibility. Thanks for checking....
Dear Sand, <.....maybe it's an oboe d'amore?? Simon = the god of Marriage, Hymen?? I agree that an oboe d'amore is likely. But I'm not sure I get the...
Lasocki, David
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May 1, 2009 3:08 pm
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Yes, maybe a puritanical prohibition about printing a word that could be construed as something else? ... Re: [hautboyresearch] Oboe de Simon Yes, maybe a...
Sand & Tara Dalton
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May 1, 2009 3:19 pm
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Dear David, How do we know that Beck was advertising instruments he made himself? Was that evident from the rest of the advertisement, i.e., from a part that...
Dear David, It may be significant that Beck seems to like to use the so-called "Oxfordian" comma -- the one before a conjunction in a series (which is now...
The full text reads: John William Beck, musician, begs leave to acquaint the publick that he teacheth to play on the following instruments, viz., clarinet,...
Dear William, Thanks for supplying the full text -- but now I'm really confused! Was the comma there after "hautbois" or not? Also, I don't see anything in...
Dear David--Yes, anachronitis is a sad affliction. In fact it's considered something of an occupational hazard for those of us obsessed with historical...
Dear Group, There are two things I'm thinking, but they are not related one with the other: 1.- the question about how many oboes are described: one or two. We...
...thinking it might have been his handwriting being the trouble here I would in the first place not have been thinking of d'amore for the mentioned reasons....
Dear all, I’m sorry if I misled anyone with the idea that Beck made his own instruments. I’ve been dealing with so many instrument-makers in my research...
Lasocki, David
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May 2, 2009 9:54 am
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Hi, reacting on Josebas's email, about the term "Cimeau". To me, as a frenchman, the word cimeau refers to something to far away from a possible oboe-related...
hello again, still thinking, eventhough very consistent and seducing, the approach of Joseba transposes in an other langage the question of a term that was...
Dear all, Could be that we will never be sure about the instrument that Beck had in mind, But the word 'Cimeau' is not more far in relation with an oboe that...
sorry again, I'm trying to help in the direction you suggested, Joseba. I don't know how good your french is, but in the definition you gave of "cimeau" : Ces...
Steve, ... This seems to me unlikely. Beck, probably advertising on his arrival in Charleston, would have wanted to communicate with the local residents about...
Lasocki, David
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May 2, 2009 12:00 pm
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Dear all, Thanks Matthieu for your assistance with the french language. About the definition of the word 'cimeau', I suspect that is not so specific like you...
Here is a far-fetched idea to add to the pot, following the "cimeau" interpretation: Supposing the pruning was done not only to protect the surrounding trees...