>       Since we're on the subject of Mozart Horn Concerti, I would like to
>know what current editions were used in the various recordings.  {My copies
>are so old and worn that I find it high time to replace them.}
>
>       What in print edition of Mozart was used for the Lowell Greer
>recordings, or others, and are similar editions available for horn and
>piano?  What would be the best, or favorite ones available, in your
>opinions?

Hi all,
    I really dislike the Schirmer edition.  I don't know who did the editing,
but I would prefer that an editor stay out of the way a little more often.
And it should be written in the original key.
    That said, I stole a copy of #4 from my alma matre.  At the time,
obtaining a Barenreiter edition of anything seemed next to impossible.  Of
course, now that I work in a music store, I realize differently.  But it's a
great edition.
    C. F. Peters has also put out an urtext edition of M. #3, 4.  They're
nice and clean, in F on one side and on Eb on the other.
    I'd love to hear from people that have "out of the way," versions of
these pieces.

Tom Wheeler

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ok I have a queestion I got hit in the mouth at softball practice it tottally
messed me up. what can I do to get better for my audition in two weeks.
thank you,
renee


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"Renee Rathjen" <nene@...> writes:

> ok I have a queestion I got hit in the mouth at softball practice it
> tottally messed me up. what can I do to get better for my audition
> in two weeks.  thank you, renee

I'm not a doctor, I can't give medical advice, but I have some
experience with traumatic mouth injury.  Many years ago I was injured
in a basketball game.  It is possible to come back from relatively
serious mouth injuries, but you have to be intelligent about it.
Don't let your concern about what happens in two weeks cause injury
that could sideline your horn playing permanently.  If you have any
doubt about the extent of you injury, see a doctor.

In sports medicine, physicians frequently advise R.I.C.E., standing
for (R)est, (I)ce, (C)ompression, and (E)levation.  My program focused
on rest and ice because there isn't a lot of beneficial compression
and elevation one a person can do to her mouth.

Use ice packs (for no more than ten minutes at a time) and let it
rest.  For an article on proper use of ice on injuries, see:

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/library/weekly/aa120600a.htm

Pay special attention to the section dealing with the amount of time
you leave ice on an area without a lot of fat and muscle.

Rest completely.  Don't play.  If you play on top of the injuries you
risk further injury.  As the injuries pile up, your chance of recovery
is reduced.

After the swelling is completely gone, you can start with very easy,
middle-register playing.  No pressure, don't play loud, just get your
embouchure vibrating.  Take it very slowly and pay attention to pain.
As you get comfortable, gradually extend the range and work on purity
of tone.  Take it easy on dynamics.  The point is to gain flexibility
and comfort.

Please consult a teacher regarding any embouchure problems or
adjustments due to scarring.

You need to reschedule your audition.  Your long-term interests need
to override your short-term need.  Good luck.

Bruce

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Principal Horn, Tulsa Philharmonic
President, Local 94, AFM
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Keep your shoulders square, elbow back and take a half step back in the
batter's box.

Good luck!

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Date: Monday, April 01, 2002 1:39 PM
Subject: [horn]


ok I have a queestion I got hit in the mouth at softball practice it
tottally messed me up. what can I do to get better for my audition in two
weeks.
thank you,
renee


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It seems that many people have felt the need to put their imprint on the
Mozart concertos.  I recall seeing in my junior college music library a
Lorenzo Sansone edition of the concerto no. 1 in which the horn part was in
Eb - not in D or F.  Please don't misunderstand me, I firmly believe in
knowing  all the orchestral and solo transpositions from the baroque and
classical/romantic literature, but I am not so pedantic that using a
reasonable and proven method to make more of the literature accessible to
more players is wrong.  I have no problem with transposing into horn in F
seeing as that is currently the "standard," but to transpose into some key
willy - nilly seems daft to me.
Paxmaha


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Hah I remember seeing the same at my former school's music library!

Cerminaro recorded Concert No.1 in Eb!  He used the second movement of the
horn quintet as his slow movement.
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> It seems that many people have felt the need to put their imprint on the
> Mozart concertos.  I recall seeing in my junior college music library a
> Lorenzo Sansone edition of the concerto no. 1 in which the horn part was
in
> Eb - not in D or F.  Please don't misunderstand me, I firmly believe in
> knowing  all the orchestral and solo transpositions from the baroque and
> classical/romantic literature, but I am not so pedantic that using a
> reasonable and proven method to make more of the literature accessible to
> more players is wrong.  I have no problem with transposing into horn in F
> seeing as that is currently the "standard," but to transpose into some key
> willy - nilly seems daft to me.
> Paxmaha
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

The March issue of SC Horns, the South Carolina IHS newsletter,
can be found at:  http://www.spheremusic.net/schorns.html

Wilbert
SC IHS area rep

>>
>My first step was to find the best URTEXT as possible. Manuscripts in
>Mozart's hand are available for the 1st concerto 1st movement, all of the
>2nd
>and 3rd concerti, and part of the 4th concerto (most of 2nd movement and
>all
>of the 3rd movement).

Hi all,
    I'll ask this on the list, since I'm sure that other people are
wondering:  how can I get my hands on the existing manuscripts of the
concertos?  Not just the Mozarts, but others, as well.  Thanks for all of
your help!

Tom Wheeler

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Thomas Wheeler wrote:
>
>    I'll ask this on the list, since I'm sure that other people are
> wondering:  how can I get my hands on the existing manuscripts of the
> concertos?  Not just the Mozarts, but others, as well.

	 The quick, easy, smart-alec answer is that you figure out who
owns them these days and then order a photocopy in the format you
want.

	 To figure out who has them, start with the thematic catalog for
the composer. However, be aware that time and war has made some
of this information out of date. If there's a reasonable modern
critical complete edition, as there is for Mozart, the critical
report (Revisionsbericht in German) may give the most up-to-date
information about what manuscripts currently exist and their
location. There may also be good information about this on the
web these days.

	 My suggestion is to be sure to order photocopies of all blank
pages, inside & outside covers, and spine, too, if you're serious
about this. It will help you figure out how the manuscript was
originally collated, which can assist with determining what
revisions were made, what might be missing, what order it was
written in, and all kinds of et ceteras. That might be more than
the most hard-core musicologist needs, though.

	 Also be aware that for many works--and I am NOT familiar at all
with the situation for Mozart's works--there is more than one
manuscript source. Lowell hinted at this in his excellent post
when he detailed what concertos were and were not available in
manuscript form. In many cases it's really kind of a fallacy that
there's ONE manuscript that represents a kind of Ur-Quelle for a
work--follow that manuscript to the letter and you have the last
word on the composer's thoughts.

	 As an example, for Handel oratorios, there are autograph
manuscripts, conducting scores, orchestral parts, and so on. (I'm
not saying that each of these sources exists for every oratorio.)
Some oratorios underwent revisions of greater or lesser scale
when revived. Any of these sources may have notations in Handel's
hand, which, of course, is pretty authoritative, not to mention
that it would be material used at performances he supervised. So
if there's a discrepancy between the autograph and one of these
other sources, what do you do?

	 In the 19th Century, there might be an autograph manuscript and
another that was used for the Stichvorlage, the copy from which
the score was engraved. This is true of at least some works by
Schumann, for example.

	 I hope this helped. It was probably more than you wanted to
know.

					 Howard Sanner
					 flagstad@...

A standard answer to this question is RIPERTOIRE INTERNATIONAL DES
SOURCES MUSICALES.  http://www.rism.harvard.edu/rism/

Another answer would be to consult the reference librarian at a local
university music library, if one is convenient to you, as reference
librarians are lonely people who like being asked questions.

Any music library, and some general libraries, will also have one or
another edition of the Kochel Verzeichnis which generally lists the
locations of autographs and other early editions of Mozarts works.  Of
course, information in pre-WW2 editions is grossly outdated.

play low and soft a little every day ,if it just happened then take a day or
two off. completly, just lightly set the rim on the lip, dont press hardly at
all. it should come back.  some prayer will work too, I promise, good luck,
Dan

Anyone know of any good places to try out horns in the
houston/texas/southwest area? Preferably in that order. Thanks.

-Scott Buford

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For those of you in the Chicago area:

University of Illinois at Chicago - Concert Band
Gene Collerd, Director

Program:

Concerto for Horn and Concert Band, John Zdechlik
James Smelser (2nd Horn, Chicago Symphony), Guest Soloist

La Fiesta Mexicana, H. Owen Reed
Little Train of the Brazilian Countryman, H. Villa Lobos
La Comparsa, E. Lecuona
Hounds of Spring, A. Reed

Sunday, 4/21/2002
3:00 PM

UIC Theatre
1044 West Harrison Street
Chicago, IL

Free Admission

More Info: 312 996 8746

It is a small theatre so I suggest you get there early for a seat. As usual,
I will be leading the horn section comprised of non music majors. Hope to
see you there.

Julio de la Rosa
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Wichita Band Instrument, try them.
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> Anyone know of any good places to try out horns in the
> houston/texas/southwest area? Preferably in that order. Thanks.
>
> -Scott Buford
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There are many sources. The major repositories of manuscript originals are :
Library of Congress; American Music Library (part of Julliard) in New York
City; Ball State University (IHS Sponsored); Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris;
British Museum, London; German National Library, Berlin; Furstlich
Oettingen-Wallersteinische Library, Darmstadt. and a surprisingly large
number of University libraries here and abroad that have manuscripts of
composers closely associated to them. In my electronic catalogue I cite the
location of the manuscripts I have located. For instance you mentioned the
manuscripts of the Mozart concertos. As you know there are manuscripts or
contemporary copies of 3 complete concertos in E flat, and manuscript
movements or fragments of 4 more concertos: 2 in D , one in E and one in E
flat. These reside in places such as St. Petersburg Library, Russia;
Jalonskia Library in Warsaw, British Museum, London and the Library of the
Musicfreund in Vienna. The Mozart Gesellschaft 1964 edition has an extensive
discussion ( in German) about the manuscripts and has printed of the first
page of several of them. That should be a good starting place for your
quest. For specific composers send me an email and I will advise you of the
manuscript location, if I know where it is. Regards.
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To: <horn@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:30 PM
Subject: [horn] locating manuscripts


> Thomas Wheeler wrote:
> >
> >    I'll ask this on the list, since I'm sure that other people are
> > wondering:  how can I get my hands on the existing manuscripts of the
> > concertos?  Not just the Mozarts, but others, as well.
>
> The quick, easy, smart-alec answer is that you figure out who
> owns them these days and then order a photocopy in the format you
> want.
>
> To figure out who has them, start with the thematic catalog for
> the composer. However, be aware that time and war has made some
> of this information out of date. If there's a reasonable modern
> critical complete edition, as there is for Mozart, the critical
> report (Revisionsbericht in German) may give the most up-to-date
> information about what manuscripts currently exist and their
> location. There may also be good information about this on the
> web these days.
>
> My suggestion is to be sure to order photocopies of all blank
> pages, inside & outside covers, and spine, too, if you're serious
> about this. It will help you figure out how the manuscript was
> originally collated, which can assist with determining what
> revisions were made, what might be missing, what order it was
> written in, and all kinds of et ceteras. That might be more than
> the most hard-core musicologist needs, though.
>
> Also be aware that for many works--and I am NOT familiar at all
> with the situation for Mozart's works--there is more than one
> manuscript source. Lowell hinted at this in his excellent post
> when he detailed what concertos were and were not available in
> manuscript form. In many cases it's really kind of a fallacy that
> there's ONE manuscript that represents a kind of Ur-Quelle for a
> work--follow that manuscript to the letter and you have the last
> word on the composer's thoughts.
>
> As an example, for Handel oratorios, there are autograph
> manuscripts, conducting scores, orchestral parts, and so on. (I'm
> not saying that each of these sources exists for every oratorio.)
> Some oratorios underwent revisions of greater or lesser scale
> when revived. Any of these sources may have notations in Handel's
> hand, which, of course, is pretty authoritative, not to mention
> that it would be material used at performances he supervised. So
> if there's a discrepancy between the autograph and one of these
> other sources, what do you do?
>
> In the 19th Century, there might be an autograph manuscript and
> another that was used for the Stichvorlage, the copy from which
> the score was engraved. This is true of at least some works by
> Schumann, for example.
>
> I hope this helped. It was probably more than you wanted to
> know.
>
> Howard Sanner
> flagstad@...
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

In a message dated 4/4/02 12:33:06 AM, dalleyhn@... writes:

<< Ball State University (IHS Sponsored) >>

That relationship no longer exists.  The IHS Archive is now located at the
Eastman school of music in Rochester NY.  Contents pertain to the history of
the IHS and does not contain manuscripts of music.

Paul Mansur, Editor Emeritus of The HORN CALL, journal of the IHS. (1976-93)

Hello to all.

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Thanks.

Wilbert in SC

Hi all,
    A couple of things are on my mind tonight, so I'll just spill them all
out.  First and foremost, thank you so much to those that posted extensive
information on obtaining manuscripts.  I'm no musicologist (I was just happy
to get out of my undergrad alive!) but I am interested in comparing what
Mozart wrote with what is standard today.
    Next, for those of you interested in new/20th century music, I've
recently been working out Margaret Brouwer's Sonata for horn and piano.
It's a remarkable piece of work!  Exciting, challenging, and it includes
some wonderfully lyrical horn writing.  For those interested in obtaining
it, it is published by Pembroke music, which is either an affiliate of, or
distributed by Carl Fischer.
    Finally, regarding the book "Musical Calethstenics for Brass," by Carmine
Caruso.  The catalogue that holds the copywrite on this music has changed
hands between two major publishers.  Of late it has been handled by Warner
Brothers.  As of January 1st, it became the property of Hal Leonard.  What
this means for most of us is that it won't be available (unless you can find
it in stock at some retail store,) until uncle Hal gets around to printing
it.  Which might be a while, since they are very involved in educational
printing, and are printing a lot of marching band and concert band music for
the next school year.  But if you try to get it, and your local music store
says it's permanently out of print, you might gently suggest that they try
Hal Leonard.
    I'll be up at the Ohio horn day this Saturday.  I'd love to make the
acquaintance of anyone on the list.  (Great to put a face with a name.)
    Best to all!

Tom Wheeler

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Sometimes you're the ball.
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I'm first alternate for the masterclass so you might get to hear me too!

Chris

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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:22 PM
Subject: [horn] Various and Sundry


Hi all,
    A couple of things are on my mind tonight, so I'll just spill them all
out.  First and foremost, thank you so much to those that posted extensive
information on obtaining manuscripts.  I'm no musicologist (I was just happy
to get out of my undergrad alive!) but I am interested in comparing what
Mozart wrote with what is standard today.
    Next, for those of you interested in new/20th century music, I've
recently been working out Margaret Brouwer's Sonata for horn and piano.
It's a remarkable piece of work!  Exciting, challenging, and it includes
some wonderfully lyrical horn writing.  For those interested in obtaining
it, it is published by Pembroke music, which is either an affiliate of, or
distributed by Carl Fischer.
    Finally, regarding the book "Musical Calethstenics for Brass," by Carmine
Caruso.  The catalogue that holds the copywrite on this music has changed
hands between two major publishers.  Of late it has been handled by Warner
Brothers.  As of January 1st, it became the property of Hal Leonard.  What
this means for most of us is that it won't be available (unless you can find
it in stock at some retail store,) until uncle Hal gets around to printing
it.  Which might be a while, since they are very involved in educational
printing, and are printing a lot of marching band and concert band music for
the next school year.  But if you try to get it, and your local music store
says it's permanently out of print, you might gently suggest that they try
Hal Leonard.
    I'll be up at the Ohio horn day this Saturday.  I'd love to make the
acquaintance of anyone on the list.  (Great to put a face with a name.)
    Best to all!

Tom Wheeler

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Sometimes you're the ball.
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Hi,
I have a student who has been playing for a couple of
years now.  We have just started lessons and I have
noticed that he uses to much pressure.  When he
finishes playing he has a large ring on his lip and
all.  I have tried having him not use the pinky hook,
but that hasn't worked.  Does anybody have any
suggestions on how I can help him fix this problem.

Thanks,

Sam


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Please visit http://members.sibeliusmusic.com/lanning to view and
play back arrangements for brass quintet. New titles include 'Down By
The Riverside', 'Ave Verum Corpus' and 'When The Saints'. You can
print out the scores and parts.

I live in Chicago and I am looking for a new horn, but I am not quite
sure what I want this time.  Does anyone know somewhere in chicago
that has a bunch of different kinds of horns to try out?  I missed
Midwest this year and I can't afford to go to Finland this summer.
So, I need to stay local this time.  I was thinking of visiting the
Woodwinds Brasswinds in Indiana, but I am not sure they would have
what I am really looking for.  Do they sell Alexanders there now?

It seems like it would cost me a great deal of money to try out horns
individually off of the hornplayers.net list with the shipping fees.

Any suggestions?

SDF
Chicago
Celebration Brass Quintet
http://www.celebrationbrassquintet.com

Fellow Hornlisters,

Here is some information regarding upcoming openings
for those of you who may be interested:


Jon thinks it would be a good idea for anyone
interested to send a tape to him with their address
and phone number so he can get a hold of them. He says
then they don't have to spend the $$ on getting out
there and he can send the tape around the different
orchestras also-since their is an opening in the UNAM
and Nacional. If they don't hire anyone next
week-which is probable- their will be another one June
27-or-28. And the other possibility is if Mester will
be in NYC sometime after the first audition and the
end of June. The problem is that Jon won't be at
either audition because first he's in St Louis and in
June he will be in Italy!
If anyone is interested, the tape should be sent to(by
April 17)
Jon Gustely, Principal Horn
Mexico City Philharmonic
Sheraton St Louis City Center
400 South 14th St
St Louis, MO 63103
The list is as follows:
1st mvmt. of any concerto
Tchaik 5  solo
Tchaik 4 Opening 1st and 2nd horns
Strauss Don Juan call
Beethoven 7 call 2nd horn
Liszt Les Preludes 4th hrn
Beethoven 8-Trio 2nd horn

Good luck.

Hans Clebsch
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The Cleveland Orchestra
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http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1688.html

Yamaha YHR567 - Full Double - 1600 US $
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1690.html

Holton 179 - Full Double - 1400 US $
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1693.html

Yamaha YHR891G - Full triple - 4850 US $
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1696.html



Here is a small selection of horns from the 202 currently advertised:

B+M Champion - Compensating double - 450 UK sterling
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1658.html

Alexander 1090 - Single Bb - 3500 US $
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1630.html

Robert Engel Vienna Horn - Single F - 2500 UK sterling
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1509.html

Paxman Bb/A/Bb Soprano - Full Double - 4000 UK sterling
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f453.html

Lawson 804G - Full Double - 5200 US $
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1628.html

Paxman 40  - Descant - Full Double - 1800 UK sterling
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1531.html

B+M Champion - Compensating double - 450 UK sterling
http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f1658.html

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THE MARK VENEKLASEN HORN
http://www.hornplayer.net/vhorn.asp

Greetings hornists,

As usual I am searching for music for a particular ensemble in
preparation for a concert.

The group is Natural horn quartets.

I know of three pieces by Bedrick Weber,  and the quartets of
Dauprat, Gallay and Rossini.

What else is there?

Richard Burdick

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