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Re: [jazz_guitar] Thinking Autumn Leaves Harmony


I was going to stay out of this, But established stone age musical concepts
prevail to complicate issues and screw things up.
The Key of Bb has six modes. Bb Ionian, Eb Lydian, and F Mixolydian are all
major modes. C Dorian, D Phrygian, and G Aeolian are all minor modes. These are
all "relative" majors and minors to each other because they're different
stations of Tonality that can be established within the same key of Bb. they all
would have the same exact Key signature.

All of the basic chords of Autumn Leaves are in the key of Bb. Tunes can
touch on the different modal tonal centers of a Key, establishing modal tonal
centers, and then move on to establish other tonal centers within the same key.

To call Cmin7 the Key of C minor is misleading. Cmin.7 could be the Aeolian
chord of the Key of Eb, the Phrygian chord of the Key of Ab, but here it's the
Dorian chord of the Key of Bb. In Autumn Leaves it's the Dorian chord of the
Key of Bb.

I can also say that the common key structure shared by all twelve possible
keys is so fundemental, that you can bend and worry it with leading tones and
other temporary alterations, and it will always tend to snap back into it's
original "shape".

Melody can also establish it's own tonality and modality with no chords at
all. There are a myriad of folk melodies that will bare this out.

Dave Woods http://www.jazzguitarstartingright.com



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I would like to hear peoples opinion on Autumn leaves harmony. ... If you analyse this in G minor it is: IVm bVII7 bIII bVI IIm7b5 V7b9 Im If you analyse...
dirkkohler
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Nov 19, 2008
4:57 pm

Looks like the first half is in Bb, second half in Gm. That is, Bb scale notes for improv first half, G harmonic minor scale notes for 2nd half, to justify the...
Ron Murray
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Nov 19, 2008
8:54 pm

The key of Autumn leaves as listed is the key of Gm...the relative minor to Bb. Using the Gm Harmonic minor scale fits beautifully throughout the entire song....
rperry19
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Nov 19, 2008
10:18 pm

... It's actually best analyzed as going back and forth between Bb major and G minor. I think your best bet with analyzing jazz standards is to look for key...
Brad Rabuchin
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Nov 20, 2008
2:35 pm

I think Brad is right although in this case there is no real right and wrong about how you look at this song. It could easily be said to be all in B flat. I...
Brian Kelly
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Nov 20, 2008
4:42 pm

I was going to stay out of this, But established stone age musical concepts prevail to complicate issues and screw things up. The Key of Bb has six modes. Bb...
Dave Woods
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