Hi Andrew,

sorry, I haven't checked my yahoo e-mail for a while. Thank you very much for your reply! I will check out RISM, why haven't I thought of it earlier.... It is an interesting subject. For example, I was wondering, since according to Mark Kroll, Beriot and Hummel knew each other, whether the French edition is Beriot's account of how Hummel played it... Why otherwise would he come up with those metric divisions of the free figurations in the slow movement... Also, those different notes in the Musica Rara edition, I wonder whether Truscott consulted some alternative historical London edition. There are other examples where composers revised the works for subsequent printing in Britain.
We'll see, if I find out anything of interest, I'll share :-)
In the meanwhile, thanks again for getting back to me!
Liza

clavierspieler <clavierspieler@...> wrote:

Liza, welcome to the group.

Have you checked out RISM? I'll be at a music library next week, and
if you haven't looked at it yet, I can look up Op. 81 and see
what/where the source materials are.

As to the Sachs edition, I presume later editions referred to it, but
I'm not sure. Yes, the Universal is a reprint of the Berio edition,
and I'm almost positive Hummel had nothing to do with the edition.

I myself have an old Kalmus edition that appears to be a reprint of
the old Breitkopf & Hartel, as well as Harold Truscott's edition for
Musica Rara in the mid-70s. The latter has some chromatic alterations
in the slow movement that are not in the B&H, but apart from that,
they are very similar.


-- Andrew




--- In johann_nepomuk_hummel@yahoogroups.com, "lizapianonyc"
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I'm new to this group, so I'm not sure if a similar question has been
> asked already, sorry...
>
> I'm looking for sources to come as close as possible to an authentic
> text of Hummel's magnificent piano sonata in F-sharp minor op. 81.
>
> The thematic catalogue doesn't list a manuscript. Is it lost? Any
> story behind that?
>
> There is a quasi-facsimile reprint of the first edition done by Joel
> Sachs. Is this the only source that later editions referred to? The
> Dover, for example, is a reprint of a Charles Berio edition (same as
> Universal?), heavily altered with all kinds of written in rubatos,
> and many of the free figurations in the second movement are metered.
> Did Hummel have anything to do with any of these alterations?
>
> I'd be immensely grateful for any hints!!!
>
> Great to see that such a group exists.
>
> Liza


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