Hi all..

Finally got around to posting a track I finished recently.  The main synth
line is the 777, all drums are xBase and there is some MKS80 bits and a
tb303.

The track is called "Dow dE Dow" and is in the "Music" section on my site.

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, "punkdISCO" <forums@p...> wrote:
> Hi all..
>
> Finally got around to posting a track I finished recently.  The
main synth
> line is the 777, all drums are xBase and there is some MKS80 bits
and a
> tb303.
>
> The track is called "Dow dE Dow" and is in the "Music" section on
my site.
>
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk


I'd love to hear your track, but It won't play in itunes.
Is there a way to convert the .wma file type to something I can play
on my Apple?

Thanks, Mitch

> I'd love to hear your track, but It won't play in itunes. Is there a way
to convert the .wma file type to something I can play
> on my Apple?

Hi Mitch

Just posted it as a mp3.  I did not realise the WMAs can't be played on
MACs.  From now on I will always post the two formats..

Thanks for letting me know you could not listen btw..

See you

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

download the windows media player its free,
download.com
t.
--- punkdISCO <forums@...> wrote:
> > I'd love to hear your track, but It won't play in
> itunes. Is there a way
> to convert the .wma file type to something I can
> play
> > on my Apple?
>
> Hi Mitch
>
> Just posted it as a mp3.  I did not realise the WMAs
> can't be played on
> MACs.  From now on I will always post the two
> formats..
>
> Thanks for letting me know you could not listen
> btw..
>
> See you
>
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>
>
>




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hi peepz

made a new track and uploaded it. it's called .:mortak:.

i do not know which style it is, to be honest. if you want to give it
a listen, you'll find it here:
http://tinyurl.com/3cezo

sequenced on: xl7 & dx200
sound sources: spectral audio protone, waldorf microwave 1, waldorf
pulse, yamaha dx 200, yamaha tx81z, jomox airbase, korg z1
fx: tc electronics m-one, behringer multicom pro, red sound
federation, boss metal zone

recorded live in the living room/studio on a g3 400 mhz iMac in
Protools free. no structural edits.

thanks for listening (and commenting)

hans

since we are sharing.  Check out some mp3's using the
Air base 09.

http://www.owlfood.com

thanks for all the links.  Its cool to see what people
make.

--- geraeuschdichte <geraeuschdichte@...> wrote:
> hi peepz
>
> made a new track and uploaded it. it's called
> .:mortak:.
>
> i do not know which style it is, to be honest. if
> you want to give it
> a listen, you'll find it here:
> http://tinyurl.com/3cezo
>
> sequenced on: xl7 & dx200
> sound sources: spectral audio protone, waldorf
> microwave 1, waldorf
> pulse, yamaha dx 200, yamaha tx81z, jomox airbase,
> korg z1
> fx: tc electronics m-one, behringer multicom pro,
> red sound
> federation, boss metal zone
>
> recorded live in the living room/studio on a g3 400
> mhz iMac in
> Protools free. no structural edits.
>
> thanks for listening (and commenting)
>
> hans
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: thomas saraceno

To: jomox@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:01 PM

Subject: Re: [jomox] new track: all drums airbase :o)

since we are sharing.  Check out some mp3's using the
Air base 09.

http://www.owlfood.com

thanks for all the links.  Its cool to see what people
make.

--- geraeuschdichte <geraeuschdichte@...> wrote:
> hi peepz
>
> made a new track and uploaded it. it's called
> .:mortak:.
>
> i do not know which style it is, to be honest. if
> you want to give it
> a listen, you'll find it here: 
> http://tinyurl.com/3cezo
>
> sequenced on: xl7 & dx200
> sound sources: spectral audio protone, waldorf
> microwave 1, waldorf
> pulse, yamaha dx 200, yamaha tx81z, jomox airbase,
> korg z1
> fx: tc electronics m-one, behringer multicom pro,
> red sound
> federation, boss metal zone
>
> recorded live in the living room/studio on a g3 400
> mhz iMac in
> Protools free. no structural edits.
>
> thanks for listening (and commenting)
>
> hans
>
>

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HI every body

Listen to my tracks made with JOMOX gear's

at
http://vraux.free.fr/JOMOX/

You 'll listen : XBASE, SUNSYN , TR808, TR909 , KORG MS 20 and TB303

Please tell me what do you think about these tracks

All are made LIVE on PROTOOLS MAC G4 400MghZ 448 MO of RAM


ALEX

Here's an annoying question:

I'm trying to write a cakewalk instrument definition file for my
Airbase99, I'll post it on this group once completed...

I have problems selecting bank select and program changes under my
software sequencer (Sonar PE).

As suggested by Jomox I'm using controller 32 to select banks but
program change doesn't work anymore...

Program change only works using controller 0 method, but you loose
bank select possibility.

thanks for further help
Gianmaria

Hey
i want to sell a Jomox XBase like NEW for 450,- ans an Airbase for 400,-
Stefan

Hi all,


after being happy with my Airbase for years, I just shot myself an XBase
at ebay. I just had to get my hands on the sequencer plus I decided to
let some metal double bass drum playing into my style of music ;)

However, I´m somewhat disappointed with the overall mechanical quality :
The pots are wiggling around by some millimeters, I have never seen any
pot behave like that... Is this  a pretty used machine or is it a feature ?

Next thing is the 16 step pads - some of them need very hard pressure,
especially 15/16.... sometimes it works, sometimes not... is this a
known bug or did I get a machine that demands some work ?

I´m not new to soldering, so exchanging parts is nothing I fear... just
the question : do jomox deliver exchange parts ? What woudl be the price
for the buttons / microswitches ? I didn´t open the uni yet, so I can´t
tell how things are internally... Anyone who can share some knowlecge here ?


Thanks in advance, cu l8er,


ol!ver

----- Original Message -----

From: Oliver Keller

To: jomox@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 9:39 AM

Subject: [jomox] XBase - quality

Hi all,


after being happy with my Airbase for years, I just shot myself an XBase
at ebay. I just had to get my hands on the sequencer plus I decided to
let some metal double bass drum playing into my style of music ;)

However, I´m somewhat disappointed with the overall mechanical quality :
The pots are wiggling around by some millimeters, I have never seen any
pot behave like that... Is this  a pretty used machine or is it a feature ?

Next thing is the 16 step pads - some of them need very hard pressure,
especially 15/16.... sometimes it works, sometimes not... is this a
known bug or did I get a machine that demands some work ?

I´m not new to soldering, so exchanging parts is nothing I fear... just
the question : do jomox deliver exchange parts ? What woudl be the price
for the buttons / microswitches ? I didn´t open the uni yet, so I can´t
tell how things are internally... Anyone who can share some knowlecge here ?


Thanks in advance, cu l8er,


ol!ver

I admit that the buttons are not so good !!!

But I've tried to use some electonic spray on STEP
Button..... and IT WORKS !!!!!

So use a Bomb Spray : but use a very good Electronical
bomb spray for contacters and potars

Use spray directly on top of the Buttons because the
BUtton's main board is very difficult to access if you
open the XBASE !!!!

Alex






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----- Original Message -----

From: ALX002

To: jomox@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:35 PM

Subject: Re: [jomox] XBase - quality

I admit that the buttons are not so good !!!

But I've tried to use some electonic spray on STEP
Button..... and IT WORKS !!!!!

So use a Bomb Spray : but use a very good Electronical
bomb spray for contacters and potars

Use spray directly on top of the Buttons because the
BUtton's main board is very difficult to access if you
open the XBASE !!!!

Alex


     

     
           
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--- Jeff Storm <jeff@...> a écrit : > could
you give us a product name?


I use a ELECTRONIC BOMB SPRAY French :-)

DEOXIT  ( 15€  /180 ml )


Try to ask to an Electonical part vendor

http://www.selectronic.fr/

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Jeff Storm wrote:

> Even with the sticky buttons its still a good piece of gear.  I
> just picked up a airbase to go with my xbase so we went in reverse
> order ;p

Definitely ! That´s why I favor renewal over resale... Would never let
one of my jomoxes leave that studio until I´m starved ;)


Later,

ol!ver

Hi Alex,

>So use a Bomb Spray : but use a very good Electronical
>bomb spray for contacters and potars
>
>
I didn´t want to blow up my Xbase ;)  I guess in France you call it Bomb
spray, we call it Contact Spray over here.

Since I´m living near the French border (Saarbrucken) I may  even  get
the brand you mentioned later. Where could I find that ? Is it available
in the supermarches or do I need to find an electronics dealer ?

  From what I´ve heard in another forum, they say that Ballistol would do
a very good job, since some contact sprays only work for a short time,
then need another dose again - guess why :). But Ballistol is more of an
oil that can be used as gun oil oder disinfectant as well - I´m not so
sure if this advice is real or a "funny" joke...

>Use spray directly on top of the Buttons because the
>BUtton's main board is very difficult to access if you
>open the XBASE !!!!
>
Hm, I´ll open the box anyway to check for the loose pots... the axis is
moving about 3-4 mm or 5-10 degree, which gives the unit a very cheap
feeling - and that doesn´t match the sound quality... so there is
definitely something to be done about that.


l8ter dude,

ol!ver

Hi all,


I´m just thinking about some outboard equipment to further improve my
sound.  Since  I don´t use anything but  X+AirBase, I wonder what you
would recommend ?

a) Classic Dynamics i.e. Compressor ? If so, what type / brand / model ?
How do you use it ? On single instruments like BD or do you group
instruments, like BD and your bass synth  and then to a subgroup with a
comp ?

b) Transient Designer ? Would this unit do anything that can´t already
be done by the synthesis ? If I got it right, the TD works on the attack
and sustain of a signal, but unlike a compressor, it´s not dependent on
the signal level. But attack and sustain is available in the sound unit
itself, so is this any good ?

I´m not so hot for plugins, since I try to keep the computer off while
making music (to me it´s a creativity break).


Thanks in adnvace,

ol!ver

>you give us a product name?
>
>I use a ELECTRONIC BOMB SPRAY French :-)
>
>DEOXIT  ( 15*  /180 ml )

the company that makes this is http://caig.com

it is sold by innumerable electronics retailers. just google.

long ago it was known as 'cramolin red', and is exceptionally useful to
clean up scratchy pots, connectors, and any surface prone to decay by
oxidation.

for the xbase, use the aerosol can if possible. there is not much room for
the fluid to get inside the pots and switches. the spray can gets in close
(with the skinny straw extension snout), and sends the solution in a burst,
hopefully penetrating to the inside. use shortest burst possible. it should
then spread on its own, but you should help it by working the button or
knob a few times.

you do not need to use much. also note that the spray can nozzle/tip can be
rotated to change the rate of output. i always use the lowest setting (turn
tip all the way to the left).

you have to take the knobs off to spray the stuff into the minute opening
between the case and the shaft. do only a few at a time... spray, turn the
knobs, wipe off excess residue with a lint-free sterile gauze applicator
recovery material or an old towel.

i just did all switches and all knobs, and wonder why i did not think of
this sooner... :)

a few stubborn keys (start/stop, steps) are now much more responsive.

knobs that only went to 126 now go to 127. remember, to adjust a value in
'absolute' knob mode instead of 'relative', hold down the accent key while
you turn the knob. then you can be certain you are seeing its true range.

de-oxit should be used with care. read and follow the directions. it can
interact with some plastics in a bad way, it can stain certain materials
such as wood.

i have not noticed any problems using it on the xbase as above. possibly it
has made the kick drum deeper and more powerful, and perhaps it has
enhanced the soundstage presented by the hihat section. this is most
impressive, as the hihats are monophonic. ymmv.

peace
suds

I think all them individual-outputs are just askin for GUITAR PEDALS


LEVLHED


Oliver Keller wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>
>I´m just thinking about some outboard equipment to further improve my
>sound.  Since  I don´t use anything but  X+AirBase, I wonder what you
>would recommend ?
>
>a) Classic Dynamics i.e. Compressor ? If so, what type / brand / model ?
>How do you use it ? On single instruments like BD or do you group
>instruments, like BD and your bass synth  and then to a subgroup with a
>comp ?
>
>b) Transient Designer ? Would this unit do anything that can´t already
>be done by the synthesis ? If I got it right, the TD works on the attack
>and sustain of a signal, but unlike a compressor, it´s not dependent on
>the signal level. But attack and sustain is available in the sound unit
>itself, so is this any good ?
>
>I´m not so hot for plugins, since I try to keep the computer off while
>making music (to me it´s a creativity break).
>
>
>Thanks in adnvace,
>
>ol!ver
>
>
>
>
>

--- jhno <ear@...> a écrit :
---------------------------------

the company that makes this is http://caig.com

it is sold by innumerable electronics retailers. just
google.

long ago it was known as 'cramolin red', and is
exceptionally useful to
clean up scratchy pots, connectors, and any surface
prone to decay by
oxidation.

for the xbase, use the aerosol can if possible. there
is not much room for
the fluid to get inside the pots and switches. the
spray can gets in close
(with the skinny straw extension snout), and sends the
solution in a burst,
hopefully penetrating to the inside. use shortest
burst possible. it should
then spread on its own, but you should help it by
working the button or
knob a few times.

you do not need to use much. also note that the spray
can nozzle/tip can be
rotated to change the rate of output. i always use the
lowest setting (turn
tip all the way to the left).

you have to take the knobs off to spray the stuff into
the minute opening
between the case and the shaft. do only a few at a
time... spray, turn the
knobs, wipe off excess residue with a lint-free
sterile gauze applicator
recovery material or an old towel.

i just did all switches and all knobs, and wonder why
i did not think of
this sooner... :)

a few stubborn keys (start/stop, steps) are now much
more responsive.

knobs that only went to 126 now go to 127. remember,
to adjust a value in
'absolute' knob mode instead of 'relative', hold down
the accent key while
you turn the knob. then you can be certain you are
seeing its true range.

de-oxit should be used with care. read and follow the
directions. it can
interact with some plastics in a bad way, it can stain
certain materials
such as wood.

i have not noticed any problems using it on the xbase
as above. possibly it
has made the kick drum deeper and more powerful, and
perhaps it has
enhanced the soundstage presented by the hihat
section. this is most
impressive, as the hihats are monophonic. ymmv.

peace
suds



HEHEHEH THANKS for THIS  Message...... It is a very
very good lesson to use DESOXIT  with our XBASES

ALEX






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Personnaly , I work on JOMOX gears  monitoring on
PROTOOLS session.......... but It 's a good way to
connect guitar effect directly on Xbase ( Overdrive,
Phaser, filters)
You can also listen to my TRACKS recorded LIVE

http://vraux.free.fr/JOMOX/


And don't hesitate to mail me your feeling about it

vraux@...


Thanks

alex




>Hi all,
>
>
>I´m just thinking about some outboard equipment to
further improve my
>sound.  Since  I don´t use anything but  X+AirBase, I
wonder what you
>would recommend ?
>
>a) Classic Dynamics i.e. Compressor ? If so, what
type / brand / model ?
>How do you use it ? On single instruments like BD or
do you group
>instruments, like BD and your bass synth  and then to
a subgroup with a
>comp ?
>
>b) Transient Designer ? Would this unit do anything
that can´t already
>be done by the synthesis ? If I got it right, the TD
works on the attack
>and sustain of a signal, but unlike a compressor,
it´s not dependent on
>the signal level. But attack and sustain is available
in the sound unit
>itself, so is this any good ?
>
>I´m not so hot for plugins, since I try to keep the
computer off while
>making music (to me it´s a creativity break).
>
>
>Thanks in adnvace,
>
>ol!ver







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Hi Alex

There is a lot of interesting stuff on your site - particularly liked the
Different Way track.  What gear is used on this?  Are the drums all Jomox?
There seem to be a lot of drum sounds that I do not have at my disposal but
I only have the xBase so maybe yours are specific to the AirBase.

Eitherway, its a cool track..

Good to see some volume on this channel btw..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

Hi ol!ver

Back to your original post..  For a compressor, are you looking for
something transparent or to add a bit of colour to the sound? I use a
Drawmer MX30 to compress/limit my xBase as I record each channel separately
into Cubase as audio.  From there I process further on the hats and snare.

The Drawmer compressors are very good but very transparent.  The really
popular compressors out there are:

1) dbx 266XL - that classic dbx sound yet VERY inexpensive. Not sure if
these are transparent or not as I read conflicting information on these..
2) TL Ivory 5021 - will warm up stuff nicely. If too expensive, a similar
sound can be found in the cheaper TL FatMan compressors.

see you,

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

----- Original Message -----
From: "Oliver Keller" <cookie@...>
To: <jomox@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 11 July 2004 09:33
Subject: [jomox] X and AirBase - what comes next (outboard) ?


> Hi all,
>
>
> I´m just thinking about some outboard equipment to further improve my
> sound.  Since  I don´t use anything but  X+AirBase, I wonder what you
> would recommend ?
>
> a) Classic Dynamics i.e. Compressor ? If so, what type / brand / model ?
> How do you use it ? On single instruments like BD or do you group
> instruments, like BD and your bass synth  and then to a subgroup with a
> comp ?
>
> b) Transient Designer ? Would this unit do anything that can´t already
> be done by the synthesis ? If I got it right, the TD works on the attack
> and sustain of a signal, but unlike a compressor, it´s not dependent on
> the signal level. But attack and sustain is available in the sound unit
> itself, so is this any good ?
>
> I´m not so hot for plugins, since I try to keep the computer off while
> making music (to me it´s a creativity break).
>
>
> Thanks in adnvace,
>
> ol!ver
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Did anyone have the same bug as me??????

On XBASE Perf MODE  play a beat (with HH)  and move HH BAL

On my Xbase sometimes when I Change HH Balance Value , it
changes HH Tune  a little :-(

But it does not appears all the time!!!


Alex

>HEHEHEH THANKS for THIS  Message...... It is a very
>very good lesson to use DESOXIT  with our XBASES

yes, but be careful as it is an unknown chemical that can react with
things. when unsure as to its compatability to a situation, test it in some
way that will not destroy your life if it goes wrong.

for example, i recklessly tried to restore a very nice penny and giles
fader with this treatment. this fader utilized a conductive plastic
surface; hence its phenomenal expense; hence its death by d5.

prevention would have been easy. penny and giles online mince no words:
clean these faders with only water. perhaps lukewarm water, with some mild
soap.

on a related note, caig's new 'mechanic-all' treatment seems an amazing
mechanical lubricant - not really for electronics, just sort of a
super-better-wd40.

enough OT from me. time to soap up the hi hats for another overdub.

DESUDSIT

Hello friends,

> for example, i recklessly tried to restore a very nice penny and giles
> fader with this treatment. this fader utilized a conductive plastic
> surface; hence its phenomenal expense; hence its death by d5.


> prevention would have been easy. penny and giles online mince no words:
> clean these faders with only water. perhaps lukewarm water, with some mild
> soap.

> on a related note, caig's new 'mechanic-all' treatment seems an amazing
> mechanical lubricant - not really for electronics, just sort of a
> super-better-wd40.

> enough OT from me. time to soap up the hi hats for another overdub.

> DESUDSIT




I only can support what is written here...don't use these shitty contact
sprays - only if it's a very soft tuner spray, and only very few
amounts!!!!. The best method is indeed putting the whole electronics apart
and softly wash the buttons PCB with water based mild cleansing tenside
solvent for dish washing...(Spueli in German:)) -No soap!!
Immediatly water it and dry with a fan after ceansing!!!!
This is, however, a job a tech should do.
This method is how I cleaned many times the rubber contacts of keyboards in
synthesizers. It works best and is the same way professional electronic
cleansing companies do.

As a technician, I have dealt with so many damadged switches and
contact-spray coated boards inside of units...they have agressive solvents
and they damadge even more than before...plus the positive effect may be of
short duration. The worst is contact spray for car mechanics!!!!

I think Philips has a good soft tuner spray...but I am not into that right
now.

A replacement Front Panel PCB costs 150 EUR plus shipment (plus VAT in
Europe)
That contains all buttons and pots and makes it a new device. It's the
strongly recommended solution for the guy with the "joystick" pots.
Sorry, we don't sell single red buttons as spare parts.


Best wishes,

Juergen Michaelis,

JoMoX GmbH
phone: +49 /30/61702573
www.jomox.de     www.jayemsonic.de
-------------------------------------------------

150€ is expansive if we have to change PCB every 3
years

My XBASE never quit my home  and there are some STEP
SWITCH which become hard to play after 3 years ( I
bought a new XBASE)

In comparaison my TR909 is about 20 years old and it
works perfectly ( no scratch , all steps work good)

:-)

nice to see you Juergen

ALex


---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- Jomox_GmbH_Jürgen_Michaelis <mich@...> a
écrit :

I only can support what is written here...don't use
these shitty contact
sprays - only if it's a very soft tuner spray, and
only very few
amounts!!!!. The best method is indeed putting the
whole electronics apart
and softly wash the buttons PCB with water based mild
cleansing tenside
solvent for dish washing...(Spueli in German:)) -No
soap!!
Immediatly water it and dry with a fan after
ceansing!!!!
This is, however, a job a tech should do.
This method is how I cleaned many times the rubber
contacts of keyboards in
synthesizers. It works best and is the same way
professional electronic
cleansing companies do.

As a technician, I have dealt with so many damadged
switches and
contact-spray coated boards inside of units...they
have agressive solvents
and they damadge even more than before...plus the
positive effect may be of
short duration. The worst is contact spray for car
mechanics!!!!

I think Philips has a good soft tuner spray...but I am
not into that right
now.

A replacement Front Panel PCB costs 150 EUR plus
shipment (plus VAT in
Europe)
That contains all buttons and pots and makes it a new
device. It's the
strongly recommended solution for the guy with the
"joystick" pots.
Sorry, we don't sell single red buttons as spare
parts.


Best wishes,

Juergen Michaelis,








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the TR909's buttons are much larger, so i would expect them to be a bit
more robust. the xbase buttons can become stubborn, but this is pretty
typical.


per juergen's post, i would modify my recommendation:

1. first try compressed air and see if that improves the switches. just a
short burst with the straw at the button's edge, and maybe one on the other
side.

2. if this does not help enough, consider paying a technician to conduct
standard long-term maintenance cleaning - taking apart the pots and
cleaning the switches. the xbase is complicated inside and this sort of
deep operation should only be undertaken by someone with plenty of
experience.

3. alternatively, applying a de-oxidizer to the problematic components
might improve them. the risk and longevity of this treatment are not known.
for my part, i will be sure to post if something goes sour.


do not spray cleaners or solvents indiscriminantly into the box.


the caig de-oxit formula i described is not designed to function as a
cleaner or solvent. it specifically addresses metal oxidation and should
not be expected to work like a contact cleaner.

always use as little as possible. it is very clean, and does not leave the
residue juergen refers to. although, the spray can version has some
additional carriers that scatter around. for this reason, in hindsight, it
might be better to try the needle applicator or the 2ml tube which have the
solution at 100% concentration. hopefully the spray can is not necessary.

however, having already used the spray can, i took a peek inside my xbase
and could not detect any residue on or around the pots or switches. my
inspection was limited to peeking between circuit board layers with a
flashlight.


finally, in case it was not totally clear - i mentioned the 'mechanic-all'
lubricant only as an aside, because caig makes it and it seems much better
than typical 3-in-1 oil or wd40 for crude, general purpose mechanical
lubrication. it is not intended for electronics at all. it did wonders for
an old kenmore sewing machine i bought (all metal, burly construction).

hold the suds