Well, I am finally the proud owner of an Xbase (from Bananas at Large)
as of Monday, and the sound of this thing is really chunky!  I'm hoping
that this unit will really be a big help in kicking off my plans to
play out live.

Unfortunately, I have received a unit that is very buggy and unstable.
It is a brand new ver 2.09, and works normally for 5-15 minutes.  Then,
it goes "pop! ssshhhhhh...." and silence, while the display generally
starts to spit out random values rapidly.  Typically, this happens when
I'm in pattern write mode and the sequencer is running, but also
happens just in pattern playback.  If I stop writing and change
patterns to playback, then I'll hear a slight static popping that
follows the drum pattern.

If I have to resort to taking the unit back, I'll be even more
disappointed than I already am, cause I have a feeling that it might be
awhile until Bananas gets more Xbases in.  Any suggestions?

Hans (who actually turned Bananas at Large on to Jomox)

That sounds like an incorrect power supply perhaps--mine acted like that,
then I got a different power supply. But I can't remember which was bad and
which was good! Until someone else chimes in, I'll try to check tonight.

David.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hans munz [mailto:hanseric@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 1:22 AM
> To: jomox@eGroups.com
> Subject: [jomox] Xbase trouble
>
>
> Well, I am finally the proud owner of an Xbase (from Bananas at Large)
> as of Monday, and the sound of this thing is really chunky!  I'm hoping
> that this unit will really be a big help in kicking off my plans to
> play out live.
>
> Unfortunately, I have received a unit that is very buggy and unstable.
> It is a brand new ver 2.09, and works normally for 5-15 minutes.  Then,
> it goes "pop! ssshhhhhh...." and silence, while the display generally
> starts to spit out random values rapidly.  Typically, this happens when
> I'm in pattern write mode and the sequencer is running, but also
> happens just in pattern playback.  If I stop writing and change
> patterns to playback, then I'll hear a slight static popping that
> follows the drum pattern.
>
> If I have to resort to taking the unit back, I'll be even more
> disappointed than I already am, cause I have a feeling that it might be
> awhile until Bananas gets more Xbases in.  Any suggestions?
>
> Hans (who actually turned Bananas at Large on to Jomox)
>
>
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Hans...

I am the US distributor for JoMoX.  Of course, let's get this problem taken
care of IMMEDIATELY.

Please email your phone number to:

soundboxla@...

AND

johnnyvn@...

I want to talk with you about this AS SOON AS POSSIBLE...

John Van Nest!

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> Reply-To: jomox@eGroups.com
> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:22:00 -0800
> To: jomox@eGroups.com
> Subject: [jomox] Xbase trouble
>
> Well, I am finally the proud owner of an Xbase (from Bananas at Large)
> as of Monday, and the sound of this thing is really chunky!  I'm hoping
> that this unit will really be a big help in kicking off my plans to
> play out live.
>
> Unfortunately, I have received a unit that is very buggy and unstable.
> It is a brand new ver 2.09, and works normally for 5-15 minutes.  Then,
> it goes "pop! ssshhhhhh...." and silence, while the display generally
> starts to spit out random values rapidly.  Typically, this happens when
> I'm in pattern write mode and the sequencer is running, but also
> happens just in pattern playback.  If I stop writing and change
> patterns to playback, then I'll hear a slight static popping that
> follows the drum pattern.
>
> If I have to resort to taking the unit back, I'll be even more
> disappointed than I already am, cause I have a feeling that it might be
> awhile until Bananas gets more Xbases in.  Any suggestions?
>
> Hans (who actually turned Bananas at Large on to Jomox)
>
>
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hi,

I just got my Xbase in the mail today. Fucking incredible! I'll definately be
putting more input on this mailing list soon.

Thanks Mike!

See you later,

Shawn
shawnclear@...

This same thing happened to me.  The Xbase would play fine for a about 30
minutes and then it would go complete haywire. It turned out to be a bad power
bar. Replaced it with a proper power bar, et voila. Total xbase heaven.

BTW, the extra sequencer tracks are pure heaven. Jomox should expand on it and
create a dedicated sequencer box. That would be cool... wait, I can't afford
any more gear... forget I said anything...

David Bivins wrote:

> That sounds like an incorrect power supply perhaps--mine acted like that,
> then I got a different power supply. But I can't remember which was bad and
> which was good! Until someone else chimes in, I'll try to check tonight.
>
> David.
>

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Jon...It's Freon from NY. anyway...will the newest OS for Xbase permit,
recording of all Hat instruments (HH
OHH. Noise, Ride, clap , ect.) from an external sequencer...in realtime rec.
mode? and can another real time
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hello all,
I have a version 1.23 xbase for sale @400ukp ono.Box,manual.A very good
machine as you all know:) but useless for my music.UK preferably as would
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Greetings all,

Well, I found another bug in the airbase last night.  When you edit the
instruments via midi, the Airbase does not consider any of them changed as
far as the "save" function goes, essentially, this means that you cannot
practically edit kits and save their contents on the JoMoX.

How nice that I can edit a kit perfectly down to the levels and any attempt
at saving the changed parameters to the JoMoX is nullfied with a program
changes.

If I am doing anything wrong, do let me know.  But as far as I know, this IS
a bug.  An ugly discomforting bug.  It is just a little frustrating to make
a suite of changes and to have no way of keeping them stored in the JoMoX.

Also, the volume knob on the front apparently controls the headphone volume
and does nothing to the mains.

Bizarre character kit names (like &%#%*#$ or thereabouts) show up after
scrolling through a certain number of kits. I think if you go backwards from
000, they show up.

The lack of the kit saving function recognizing instrument edits via midi is
the biggest problem I can think of. It means that I have to load all of the
parameters by hand through the Airbase itself, if I want any modified kits
saved to the unit.

Please help asap.

Thanks,

Aaron

hi,

<< If I am doing anything wrong, do let me know.  But as far as I know, this
IS a bug.  An ugly discomforting bug.  It is just a little frustrating to
make a suite of changes and to have no way of keeping them stored in the
JoMoX. >>

This problem has been discussed on the list several times. No I do not own an
Airbase, only an Xbase, but I remember the solution.

Edit from midi CC till your heart's content- then use the one edit "knob" on
the Jomox front panel and change the sound a tiny bit. Change it back if you
want. You can now save all of the changes you've made- even the ones you did
from midi.

Correct?

Good luck,

Shawn
shawnclear@...

Hey Shawn,

Went home last night and WHAM, The tricked worked! Thanks, you win the
coveted "Value monkey of the Day" award.
For the next week, if anyone asks you, "who da man," I hereby grant you
ability to respond with "Me."

Anyway, thanks again.

Note to JoMoX: editing the CC's should appear in the edit screens, just as
if you turned a knob. Would solve the saving problem as well, no? Anyway,
let's get all the bugs in the existing products ironed as soon we can. We
don't want to get reviews like Waldorf do we?  ;)

And once again, to members of the list, for this week, Shawn is officially
da man on the list.

Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: ShawnClear@... [mailto:ShawnClear@...]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 2:55 PM
To: jomox@egroups.com
Subject: [jomox] Re: Update: The very latest in Airbase bugs...


hi,

<< If I am doing anything wrong, do let me know.  But as far as I know, this

IS a bug.  An ugly discomforting bug.  It is just a little frustrating to
make a suite of changes and to have no way of keeping them stored in the
JoMoX. >>

This problem has been discussed on the list several times. No I do not own
an
Airbase, only an Xbase, but I remember the solution.

Edit from midi CC till your heart's content- then use the one edit "knob" on

the Jomox front panel and change the sound a tiny bit. Change it back if you

want. You can now save all of the changes you've made- even the ones you did

from midi.

Correct?

Good luck,

Shawn
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just wondering who won the NAMM show raffle(for a jomox x-base)as i was
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proud owner of an x-base!!

Jesse,

As you probably know by now...YOU ARE THE WINNER!

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what is NAMM?????

SUBJECT UNKNOWN!!!!
JE SUIS UN PAUVRE FRANCAIS PERDU PARMIS UN TAS D'ANGLOPHONES!!!!
ca n'est pas un problème dans l'absolu...mais parfois y'a des thermes qui
m'echappent
malgré mon"oxford advanced learners dictionary"....
de plus n'est ma xbase que depuis un semaine...
salut à tous,a plus tard

my airbase likes to make extra noises. those 2 to 3 second
pfffffffffffffffft type static sound after toms, (hitom esp.)
also now i get little short bursts after kicks, sometimes
after claps & rims... in fact, anything with any kind of decay
time, except kicks usually. usually they are short tiny pffffts,
but really annoying. is this normal, or is mine wrong somehow?
it is essentially brand new. help?

Which Jomox units do you own/use?

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Please select one or more of the following:

    o XBase 09
    o Airbase 99


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Thank you!

i think i'm having trouble with the list.  i just sent out a poll and it
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You meen a very short click, if so then something could be wrong
I had the same problem and my machine is fixed and it works fine know. Maybe
you could sent me a sample of the click (what you cal
pfffffft) and I can tell you if it's the same problem that I have had.

Greetings

Martijn

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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Datum: woensdag 16 februari 2000 20:18
Onderwerp: [jomox] airbase noises


>my airbase likes to make extra noises. those 2 to 3 second
>pfffffffffffffffft type static sound after toms, (hitom esp.)
>also now i get little short bursts after kicks, sometimes
>after claps & rims... in fact, anything with any kind of decay
>time, except kicks usually. usually they are short tiny pffffts,
>but really annoying. is this normal, or is mine wrong somehow?
>it is essentially brand new. help?
>
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> my airbase likes to make extra noises. those 2 to 3 second
> pfffffffffffffffft type static sound after toms, (hitom esp.)
> also now i get little short bursts after kicks, sometimes
> after claps & rims... in fact, anything with any kind of decay
> time, except kicks usually. usually they are short tiny pffffts,
> but really annoying. is this normal, or is mine wrong somehow?
> it is essentially brand new. help?

I had a similar problem, the upgrade with the latest OS
(an "user instalable" eprom that you have to ask from
your distributor or contact jomox ) will fix that
problem...well, not cpmpletly, because the problem still
subsists in some snare sounds, at least whenever these
have a decay above a treshold I never cared to
investigate...but its not nice.
As it seems its just a problem of the "early units",
meaning not the new ones (more expensive with some
revised hardware), some trouble with analog components
/something related with tolerance margins for the
VCAs...not shure about the reason, but absolutly shure
about the "symptoms").
Anyway, with the latest OS this problem is minimized,
although we still have the program change problem :(  .

Still the Airbase is a wonderful, wonderful machine...I
really love it...and all these kits...sometimes its just like
magic, doing the track in a specially suited kit but then
randomly change the kit and the results are radical and
magnificent (instant alternative mix...) and with a quality
that makes me want to thank these great Jomox guys
everyday ;)

My advice, seek help with Jomox, they are great people
and ready to help.

Best,

Paulo Abreu


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i will send you a sample later today.  64 kb or so .wav file ok?



>You meen a very short click, if so then something could be wrong
>I had the same problem and my machine is fixed and it works fine know.
Maybe
>you could sent me a sample of the click (what you cal
>pfffffft) and I can tell you if it's the same problem that I have had.
>
>Greetings
>
>Martijn

i thought mine was one of the new units. i *just* got it back
from the US distributor.. i had sent it there to get fixed after
NAMM, by the inventor.. for long static sounds after the toms..
i had been told by jomox that they were quite certain it was the
fault of theresistors simply having tolerances too large, it's an
easy problem for a technician to fix etc... then, i am told by the
distributor that especially the toms should sound this way, and
i should get a noise gate, something like that. somewhere it
seems the story changed. i am in touch with jomox & have been.
regards

>I had a similar problem, the upgrade with the latest OS
>(an "user instalable" eprom that you have to ask from
>your distributor or contact jomox ) will fix that
>problem...well, not cpmpletly, because the problem still
>subsists in some snare sounds, at least whenever these
>have a decay above a treshold I never cared to
>investigate...but its not nice.
>As it seems its just a problem of the "early units",
>meaning not the new ones (more expensive with some
>revised hardware), some trouble with analog components
>/something related with tolerance margins for the
>VCAs...not shure about the reason, but absolutly shure
>about the "symptoms").
>Anyway, with the latest OS this problem is minimized,
>although we still have the program change problem :(  .
>
>Still the Airbase is a wonderful, wonderful machine...I
>really love it...and all these kits...sometimes its just like
>magic, doing the track in a specially suited kit but then
>randomly change the kit and the results are radical and
>magnificent (instant alternative mix...) and with a quality
>that makes me want to thank these great Jomox guys
>everyday ;)
>
>My advice, seek help with Jomox, they are great people
>and ready to help.
>
>Best,
>
>Paulo Abreu
>

i hear the short click after the crash, even with shorter decay times :(
sorry the sample is so large, but i recorded the noise after it, and maybe
a hald second of a lower noise level so you maybe see the difference
when it shuts off, which i admit may be slight. but my sampler is the
master of clarity (s5000) so... you tell me? any feedback is welcome..
if it's problems can be fixed, i would send it to germany right away...
regards
     josiah

>You meen a very short click, if so then something could be wrong
>I had the same problem and my machine is fixed and it works fine know.
Maybe
>you could sent me a sample of the click (what you cal
>pfffffft) and I can tell you if it's the same problem that I have had.
>
>Greetings
>
>Martijn

i hear the short click after the crash, even with shorter decay times :(
sorry the sample is so large, but i recorded the noise after it, and maybe
a hald second of a lower noise level so you maybe see the difference
when it shuts off, which i admit may be slight. but my sampler is the
master of clarity (s5000) so... you tell me? any feedback is welcome..
if it's problems can be fixed, i would send it to germany right away...
regards
     josiah

>You meen a very short click, if so then something could be wrong
>I had the same problem and my machine is fixed and it works fine know.
Maybe
>you could sent me a sample of the click (what you cal
>pfffffft) and I can tell you if it's the same problem that I have had.
>
>Greetings
>
>Martijn

i didn't hear any clicking or pfffting in your sample...


>From: "stuffedMonkey" <oaxaca@...>
>Reply-To: jomox@egroups.com
>To: <jomox@eGroups.com>
>Subject: [jomox] Re: airbase noises
>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:54:00 -0500
>
>i hear the short click after the crash, even with shorter decay times :(
>sorry the sample is so large, but i recorded the noise after it, and maybe
>a hald second of a lower noise level so you maybe see the difference
>when it shuts off, which i admit may be slight. but my sampler is the
>master of clarity (s5000) so... you tell me? any feedback is welcome..
>if it's problems can be fixed, i would send it to germany right away...
>regards
>     josiah
>
> >You meen a very short click, if so then something could be wrong
> >I had the same problem and my machine is fixed and it works fine know.
>Maybe
> >you could sent me a sample of the click (what you cal
> >pfffffft) and I can tell you if it's the same problem that I have had.
> >
> >Greetings
> >
> >Martijn
>
>
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that's possible. i did run it through my cheap little
behringer mixer, not straight into the sampler. also,
i can't hear it played through my soundcard either..
computer noise, cheap stupid soundcard's native
ground humming... hmm. you know what? i sent an email
to the list saying sorry if that got in everyone's inbox
or something to that effect, & i never got that..yet i got
two of the one with the sample attached.. ok then.
bye!


>i didn't hear any clicking or pfffting in your sample...
>
>

Hi,

> that's possible. i did run it through my cheap little
> behringer mixer, not straight into the sampler. also,
> i can't hear it played through my soundcard either..
> computer noise, cheap stupid soundcard's native
> ground humming... hmm.

I don't know about you, but if this low-level hum is louder than the
pffffft-sound you were talking about, then I wouldn't care at all, I'd even
not put a gate on it... I mean, if something sits in the mix, then you won't
hear this at all.

Could you send me a sample with the problem-sound a bit louder please?
Thanks.

Greetings,
Joeri
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just realized i didn't only send that .wav
file attachment to one person.. perhaps it won't
make it through anyway?