jomox : Messages : 3868-3897 of 5590

Juergen-

This is an old thread....but, there are a few things that I would like to be able to store globally:

Midi Clock vs. INT clock setting.
A/B Play Mode setting (global store of Fix or Alt) (this should be optional, meaning... you can have a global setting to over-ride all the pattern savings, or you can allow all the patterns to retain their values).
Global FILTER CUT.... (meaning ability to globally kill the filter audio path from hitting the stereo outs)

ta!
Shagghie

On 7/6/07, Michaelis < mich@...> wrote:

is stored only globally!
would be difficult if you have a live setup and the panning would always
change with presets.

JM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Erokhin" <the_gabber@... >
To: < jomox@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:25 PM
Subject: [jomox] 999 stereo panning

> Hi Jurgen and community.
> I love this unit but some parts of it for me is unclear.
>
> I have a question about XBase 999 stereo panning. When I set a panning in
Shift+9 menu and press Enter. Where does Xbase save panning information?
Does it save it with Kit or Performance. I made experiments and it looked
like stereo panning settings were saved for whole system independently of
Kits or Performance. Am I right?
> And so is there way to use different panning settings for different kits
tracks automatical?
>
> I mean it's right if panning settings are stored with kit!
>
> Best regards, Eugene Erokhin.
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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#3870

From: "Michaelis" <mich@...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2007 9:48 am
Subject: Re: 999 stereo panning

resoyogi

hello,

midi clock source is storeable globally already...!?! I think I don't understand your problem here.

encoder 16 click mutes the filter globally already.

A/B play mode setting would be a huge limitation if it were stored globally...ok, but I think at first there are some other important reworks/fixes. Midi CCs, sysex bank dumps, Midi tracks menus (there are some quirks in the menu selection).

Just some tech notes for the filter section:

the filter section has input taps (analog switches) that can be soft controlled via shift 8 filter routing.

the single outputs have analog mute switches. the direct signal is led into the filter taps BEFORE these mute switches to be able to insert a signal into the filter and being able to mute the direct signal from the signal path to ONLY have the filtered signal. if they are both mixed together in the stereo bus which is the case if the direct signal is not muted, the direct signal is much more present and covers the filtered signal. if you want to have NO filtered signal and a 100% direct mute, turn off the filter tap in shift 8 filter routing.

the filter section mixes into the stereo bus out by a final VCA (adressable in the edit filter menu by VCAOut).

thus, an individual out cannot have a filtered signal.

the ring of the mix out jack leads out the pure filter signal BEFORE the final VCA. so you can't control the filter level by VCA out or use the soft filter mute 16 if the ring signal is split out by an insert cable.

Also, many mixers or interfaces use balanced inputs with tip and ring. if you use a stereo (or balanced) cable into a balanced input for the stereo mix of the XBASE 999, you will always have the filtered signal because the output of the filter is on the ring WITHOUT final VCA. I think this is why some people don't get rid of the signal although it is muted. And the filter soft mute encoder 16 doesn't work on the ring because it splits out before the final VCA.

For easy use, it is best to use mono cables because the filter tap is shorted and inactive then.

sorry, these are some hardware considerations that cannot be changed and so one has to know them to have a workaround for them. but it's the setup where almost every combination of instruments and/or filter or no filter are possible. remember, we are true analog, no dsp code;)

The filter block schematic is attached as gif but i don't know if it will be cut out by yahoo.

cheers,

----- Original Message -----

From: Shagghie

To: jomox@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jomox] 999 stereo panning

Juergen-

This is an old thread....but, there are a few things that I would like to be able to store globally:

Midi Clock vs. INT clock setting.
A/B Play Mode setting (global store of Fix or Alt) (this should be optional, meaning... you can have a global setting to over-ride all the pattern savings, or you can allow all the patterns to retain their values).
Global FILTER CUT.... (meaning ability to globally kill the filter audio path from hitting the stereo outs)

ta!
Shagghie

On 7/6/07, Michaelis < mich@...> wrote:
is stored only globally!
would be difficult if you have a live setup and the panning would always
change with presets.

JM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Erokhin" <the_gabber@... >
To: < jomox@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:25 PM
Subject: [jomox] 999 stereo panning

> Hi Jurgen and community.
> I love this unit but some parts of it for me is unclear.
>
> I have a question about XBase 999 stereo panning. When I set a panning in
Shift+9 menu and press Enter. Where does Xbase save panning information?
Does it save it with Kit or Performance. I made experiments and it looked
like stereo panning settings were saved for whole system independently of
Kits or Performance. Am I right?
> And so is there way to use different panning settings for different kits
tracks automatical?
>
> I mean it's right if panning settings are stored with kit!
>
> Best regards, Eugene Erokhin.
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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#3871

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2007 10:40 am
Subject: Re: 999 stereo panning

lsc5h4g

JM- I'll try to catch you before I go to sleep really quick. First, thank you so much for the response, it sheds so much light on the hardware and the filter, and I think I am going to work with this information and see if I can find a good workflow for living jamming as far as the filter goes now. I still like the idea that Roel and I came up with for the filter MUTE routing. (at least I think I like it better on paper any way still).

On the midi clock source... I checked and you are correct.. however, I think I might have discovered a bug then, but I don't (yet) know how to reproduce it.
THe other night VJ and I were jamming with two 999's. His clock was set to INT, and mine to MID. Several times, however, when I would change patterns, I would 'loose clock' and things got all out of time badly. When I went to look at the setting, it had been changed to INT on my machine somehow. I noticed both times that the tempo setting in these cases would be at 255 when this happened. This was not the original INT tempo setting I use, which is 128 bpm. This only happened twice in a 2 hour jam session, but both times it happened was when I was selecting a new pattern. This is why I thought the clock settings must be stored per Pattern, and not globally.

Lastly, on the A/B Fix vs. ALt GLOBAL setting request. I want to make sure that it would still be possible to have this set on individual patterns, too. In other words, there would need to be two global settings. 1) Enable Global A/B override Y/N? and then 2)Global A/B Fix vs. Alt selector. Make sense?

I'm off to bed, but thank you again so much for you reply... I'm very excited to know the filter RING output is tapped before the vca. I just need a mixer now.

s

On 10/2/07, Michaelis <mich@...> wrote:

hello,

midi clock source is storeable globally already...!?! I think I don't understand your problem here.

encoder 16 click mutes the filter globally already.

A/B play mode setting would be a huge limitation if it were stored globally...ok, but I think at first there are some other important reworks/fixes. Midi CCs, sysex bank dumps, Midi tracks menus (there are some quirks in the menu selection).

Just some tech notes for the filter section:

the filter section has input taps (analog switches) that can be soft controlled via shift 8 filter routing.

the single outputs have analog mute switches. the direct signal is led into the filter taps BEFORE these mute switches to be able to insert a signal into the filter and being able to mute the direct signal from the signal path to ONLY have the filtered signal. if they are both mixed together in the stereo bus which is the case if the direct signal is not muted, the direct signal is much more present and covers the filtered signal. if you want to have NO filtered signal and a 100% direct mute, turn off the filter tap in shift 8 filter routing.

the filter section mixes into the stereo bus out by a final VCA (adressable in the edit filter menu by VCAOut).

thus, an individual out cannot have a filtered signal.

the ring of the mix out jack leads out the pure filter signal BEFORE the final VCA. so you can't control the filter level by VCA out or use the soft filter mute 16 if the ring signal is split out by an insert cable.

Also, many mixers or interfaces use balanced inputs with tip and ring. if you use a stereo (or balanced) cable into a balanced input for the stereo mix of the XBASE 999, you will always have the filtered signal because the output of the filter is on the ring WITHOUT final VCA. I think this is why some people don't get rid of the signal although it is muted. And the filter soft mute encoder 16 doesn't work on the ring because it splits out before the final VCA.

For easy use, it is best to use mono cables because the filter tap is shorted and inactive then.

sorry, these are some hardware considerations that cannot be changed and so one has to know them to have a workaround for them. but it's the setup where almost every combination of instruments and/or filter or no filter are possible. remember, we are true analog, no dsp code;)

The filter block schematic is attached as gif but i don't know if it will be cut out by yahoo.

cheers,

JM

----- Original Message -----

From: Shagghie

To: jomox@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:55 AM

Subject: Re: [jomox] 999 stereo panning

Juergen-

This is an old thread....but, there are a few things that I would like to be able to store globally:

Midi Clock vs. INT clock setting.
A/B Play Mode setting (global store of Fix or Alt) (this should be optional, meaning... you can have a global setting to over-ride all the pattern savings, or you can allow all the patterns to retain their values).
Global FILTER CUT.... (meaning ability to globally kill the filter audio path from hitting the stereo outs)

ta!
Shagghie

On 7/6/07, Michaelis < mich@...> wrote:
is stored only globally!
would be difficult if you have a live setup and the panning would always
change with presets.

JM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Erokhin" <the_gabber@... >
To: < jomox@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:25 PM
Subject: [jomox] 999 stereo panning

> Hi Jurgen and community.
> I love this unit but some parts of it for me is unclear.
>
> I have a question about XBase 999 stereo panning. When I set a panning in
Shift+9 menu and press Enter. Where does Xbase save panning information?
Does it save it with Kit or Performance. I made experiments and it looked
like stereo panning settings were saved for whole system independently of
Kits or Performance. Am I right?
> And so is there way to use different panning settings for different kits
tracks automatical?
>
> I mean it's right if panning settings are stored with kit!
>
> Best regards, Eugene Erokhin.
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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#3872

From: "victorjohnmartinez" <victorjohn1@...>
Date: Thu Oct 4, 2007 12:12 am
Subject: Re: 999 stereo panning

As a new user of the 999, I thank you for the response as well JM.
We had questions on using the filter implementation correctly in a
live jam and now we have your logic to give us some concepts to work with.

As far as A/B mode, I had it out with Shagghie over this and want to
cast my official vote against his method outlined in the following:

> Lastly, on the A/B Fix vs. ALt GLOBAL setting request.  I want to
make sure
> that it would still be possible to have this set on individual patterns,
> too. In other words, there would need to be two global settings.

I like it the way it is, and my only frustration with it is that I
forget which half of the pattern I am looking at at times.  This will
pass as I get better at jamming the 999.

#3873

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Thu Oct 4, 2007 12:21 am
Subject: Re: Re: 999 stereo panning

lsc5h4g

VJ/JM-

on the A/B mode, that is why I suggested having two global settings:

1) that allows user to globally override the individual pattern's A/B settings

and then simply

2) that allows the choice of ALTernating or FIXed for a Global setting (IF IF IF, option 1) above is set to Global A/B Override enable)

That's simply the best of both worlds, because like you there will be times when I want the individual patterns to retain and use their respective A/B setting of ALT vs. FIX.

Sorry if that wasn't clear on the first one... many a late night on the 999 lately. Thought it best to respond here to keep conversation open for any/all other Jomoxians to participate and chime in.

-Shagghie

On 10/3/07, victorjohnmartinez <victorjohn1@...> wrote:

As a new user of the 999, I thank you for the response as well JM.
We had questions on using the filter implementation correctly in a
live jam and now we have your logic to give us some concepts to work with.

As far as A/B mode, I had it out with Shagghie over this and want to
cast my official vote against his method outlined in the following:

> Lastly, on the A/B Fix vs. ALt GLOBAL setting request. I want to
make sure
> that it would still be possible to have this set on individual patterns,
> too. In other words, there would need to be two global settings.

I like it the way it is, and my only frustration with it is that I
forget which half of the pattern I am looking at at times. This will
pass as I get better at jamming the 999.

#3874

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Thu Oct 4, 2007 4:36 am
Subject: Re: jOMOX XBASE 999 ?

lsc5h4g

I just saw this response, and I didn't mean to belittle the importance of song mode.
I should have been more clear: I highly recommend that for now you use a program, preferably Ableton Live,
for live performances that go beyond just mute and pattern jamming. It will add a element of depth and expressiveness to the performance that pefectly complements the 999's existing features. If you have your set together as much as you'd have to anyway if you were using 999's song mode, then you'll realize the power and flexibility of Ableton and the ability to pre-record elements of the 999 performance you want in session clips, makes it a very nice complement.
Get a trigger finger for $100 and you're good to go.

Or, he can just us the MDUW's song mode for now for structure and evolution, and pattern jam the fuck out of the 999 in the meantime. Now THAT's "Doctor Obvious", if you ask me.

On 2/21/07, damon <damon@...> wrote:

Esteemed Doctor Obvious-

Yes, the clear recommendation for those using DAWs for composition.
Certainly not a valuable recommendation for live use.

On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Shagghie wrote:

>
> Demon-
> I'd (humbly) recommend a DAW for such purpose on the 999?
>
>
> On 2/21/07, damon <damon@...> wrote:
> There is as of yet no song mode which may or may not be a big deal
> for you. To me it keeps it firmly in the arena of plaything instead
> of real compositional tool.... one can get a lot of mileage out of
> playing mutes, but there are severe limits for us who look outside
> the popular loop mentality for our compositions.
>
> On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Paul love wrote:
>
> > Hi to all I am new to this forum but would like to know if the OS is
> > solid yet on the new xbase 999? I am use to a Machinedrum and all
> its
> > perfection but would like to buy a 999 to go with my MDUW! Is the
> 999
> > easy to learn and does it have a flexable way to arranging patterns
> > within the song editor like the MDUW? Thanks, to all who reply!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

#3875

From: "sonofprent" <sonofprent@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: jOMOX XBASE 999 ?

sonofprent

personally i dont mind a bit of doctor obvious pattern jamming; has
its uses. does that make me a bad person?

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
> I just saw this response, and I didn't mean to belittle the
importance of
> song mode.
> I should have been more clear:  I highly recommend that for now you
use a
> program, preferably Ableton Live,
> for live performances that go beyond just mute and pattern jamming.
It will
> add a element of depth and expressiveness to the performance that
pefectly
> complements the 999's existing features. If you have your set
together as
> much as you'd have to anyway if you were using 999's song mode, then
you'll
> realize the power and flexibility of Ableton and the ability to
pre-record
> elements of the 999 performance you want in session clips, makes it
a very
> nice complement.
> Get a trigger finger for $100 and you're good to go.
>
> Or, he can just us the MDUW's song mode for now for structure and
evolution,
> and pattern jam the fuck out of the 999 in the meantime. Now THAT's
"Doctor
> Obvious", if you ask me.
>
> On 2/21/07, damon <damon@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Esteemed Doctor Obvious-
> >
> > Yes, the clear recommendation for those using DAWs for composition.
> > Certainly not a valuable recommendation for live use.
> >
> > On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Shagghie wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Demon-
> > > I'd (humbly) recommend a DAW for such purpose on the 999?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/21/07, damon <damon@... <damon%40mac.com>> wrote:
> > > There is as of yet no song mode which may or may not be a big deal
> > > for you. To me it keeps it firmly in the arena of plaything instead
> > > of real compositional tool.... one can get a lot of mileage out of
> > > playing mutes, but there are severe limits for us who look outside
> > > the popular loop mentality for our compositions.
> > >
> > > On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Paul love wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi to all I am new to this forum but would like to know if the
OS is
> > > > solid yet on the new xbase 999? I am use to a Machinedrum and all
> > > its
> > > > perfection but would like to buy a 999 to go with my MDUW! Is the
> > > 999
> > > > easy to learn and does it have a flexable way to arranging
patterns
> > > > within the song editor like the MDUW? Thanks, to all who reply!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

#3876

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: Re: jOMOX XBASE 999 ?

lsc5h4g

Only if 'Bad' is 'Good', like MJ says....

Nothing sounds better than a Bad Pattern Jamming set!

On 10/5/07, sonofprent <sonofprent@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> personally i dont mind a bit of doctor obvious pattern jamming; has
>  its uses. does that make me a bad person?
>
>
>  --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > I just saw this response, and I didn't mean to belittle the
>  importance of
>  > song mode.
>  > I should have been more clear: I highly recommend that for now you
>  use a
>  > program, preferably Ableton Live,
>  > for live performances that go beyond just mute and pattern jamming.
>  It will
>  > add a element of depth and expressiveness to the performance that
>  pefectly
>  > complements the 999's existing features. If you have your set
>  together as
>  > much as you'd have to anyway if you were using 999's song mode, then
>  you'll
>  > realize the power and flexibility of Ableton and the ability to
>  pre-record
>  > elements of the 999 performance you want in session clips, makes it
>  a very
>  > nice complement.
>  > Get a trigger finger for $100 and you're good to go.
>  >
>  > Or, he can just us the MDUW's song mode for now for structure and
>  evolution,
>  > and pattern jam the fuck out of the 999 in the meantime. Now THAT's
>  "Doctor
>  > Obvious", if you ask me.
>  >
>  > On 2/21/07, damon <damon@...> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Esteemed Doctor Obvious-
>  > >
>  > > Yes, the clear recommendation for those using DAWs for composition.
>  > > Certainly not a valuable recommendation for live use.
>  > >
>  > > On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Shagghie wrote:
>  > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Demon-
>  > > > I'd (humbly) recommend a DAW for such purpose on the 999?
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > On 2/21/07, damon <damon@... <damon%40mac.com>> wrote:
>  > > > There is as of yet no song mode which may or may not be a big deal
>  > > > for you. To me it keeps it firmly in the arena of plaything instead
>  > > > of real compositional tool.... one can get a lot of mileage out of
>  > > > playing mutes, but there are severe limits for us who look outside
>  > > > the popular loop mentality for our compositions.
>  > > >
>  > > > On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Paul love wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > > Hi to all I am new to this forum but would like to know if the
>  OS is
>  > > > > solid yet on the new xbase 999? I am use to a Machinedrum and all
>  > > > its
>  > > > > perfection but would like to buy a 999 to go with my MDUW! Is the
>  > > > 999
>  > > > > easy to learn and does it have a flexable way to arranging
>  patterns
>  > > > > within the song editor like the MDUW? Thanks, to all who reply!
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>
>
>
>

#3877

From: "sonofprent" <sonofprent@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: jOMOX XBASE 999 ?

sonofprent

fair enough, as long as im not evil!
im a sucker for the hands on approach, used to be big into nuendo but
these days cant be arsed to plug in the midi cables, although i always
mean to get round to it...
never tried ableton, hgow does it compare?


(judge me at www.myspace.com/theinhumane beatbox)!


--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
> Only if 'Bad' is 'Good', like MJ says....
>
> Nothing sounds better than a Bad Pattern Jamming set!
>
> On 10/5/07, sonofprent <sonofprent@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > personally i dont mind a bit of doctor obvious pattern jamming; has
> >  its uses. does that make me a bad person?
> >
> >
> >  --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > I just saw this response, and I didn't mean to belittle the
> >  importance of
> >  > song mode.
> >  > I should have been more clear: I highly recommend that for now you
> >  use a
> >  > program, preferably Ableton Live,
> >  > for live performances that go beyond just mute and pattern jamming.
> >  It will
> >  > add a element of depth and expressiveness to the performance that
> >  pefectly
> >  > complements the 999's existing features. If you have your set
> >  together as
> >  > much as you'd have to anyway if you were using 999's song mode,
then
> >  you'll
> >  > realize the power and flexibility of Ableton and the ability to
> >  pre-record
> >  > elements of the 999 performance you want in session clips, makes it
> >  a very
> >  > nice complement.
> >  > Get a trigger finger for $100 and you're good to go.
> >  >
> >  > Or, he can just us the MDUW's song mode for now for structure and
> >  evolution,
> >  > and pattern jam the fuck out of the 999 in the meantime. Now THAT's
> >  "Doctor
> >  > Obvious", if you ask me.
> >  >
> >  > On 2/21/07, damon <damon@> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > Esteemed Doctor Obvious-
> >  > >
> >  > > Yes, the clear recommendation for those using DAWs for
composition.
> >  > > Certainly not a valuable recommendation for live use.
> >  > >
> >  > > On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Shagghie wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Demon-
> >  > > > I'd (humbly) recommend a DAW for such purpose on the 999?
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > On 2/21/07, damon <damon@ <damon%40mac.com>> wrote:
> >  > > > There is as of yet no song mode which may or may not be a
big deal
> >  > > > for you. To me it keeps it firmly in the arena of plaything
instead
> >  > > > of real compositional tool.... one can get a lot of mileage
out of
> >  > > > playing mutes, but there are severe limits for us who look
outside
> >  > > > the popular loop mentality for our compositions.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Paul love wrote:
> >  > > >
> >  > > > > Hi to all I am new to this forum but would like to know
if the
> >  OS is
> >  > > > > solid yet on the new xbase 999? I am use to a Machinedrum
and all
> >  > > > its
> >  > > > > perfection but would like to buy a 999 to go with my
MDUW! Is the
> >  > > > 999
> >  > > > > easy to learn and does it have a flexable way to arranging
> >  patterns
> >  > > > > within the song editor like the MDUW? Thanks, to all who
reply!
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > >
> >  > > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

#3878

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Re: jOMOX XBASE 999 ?

lsc5h4g

That's some crazy beat boxen!
FWIW to others, get rid of the space in the myspace page, or just
click this one:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=188192\
845
I like "brother #2"
friend request sent.
shag

On 10/5/07, sonofprent <sonofprent@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> fair enough, as long as im not evil!
>  im a sucker for the hands on approach, used to be big into nuendo but
>  these days cant be arsed to plug in the midi cables, although i always
>  mean to get round to it...
>  never tried ableton, hgow does it compare?
>
>  (judge me at www.myspace.com/theinhumane beatbox)!
>
>  --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Only if 'Bad' is 'Good', like MJ says....
>  >
>  > Nothing sounds better than a Bad Pattern Jamming set!
>  >
>  > On 10/5/07, sonofprent <sonofprent@...> wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > personally i dont mind a bit of doctor obvious pattern jamming; has
>  > > its uses. does that make me a bad person?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > I just saw this response, and I didn't mean to belittle the
>  > > importance of
>  > > > song mode.
>  > > > I should have been more clear: I highly recommend that for now you
>  > > use a
>  > > > program, preferably Ableton Live,
>  > > > for live performances that go beyond just mute and pattern jamming.
>  > > It will
>  > > > add a element of depth and expressiveness to the performance that
>  > > pefectly
>  > > > complements the 999's existing features. If you have your set
>  > > together as
>  > > > much as you'd have to anyway if you were using 999's song mode,
>  then
>  > > you'll
>  > > > realize the power and flexibility of Ableton and the ability to
>  > > pre-record
>  > > > elements of the 999 performance you want in session clips, makes it
>  > > a very
>  > > > nice complement.
>  > > > Get a trigger finger for $100 and you're good to go.
>  > > >
>  > > > Or, he can just us the MDUW's song mode for now for structure and
>  > > evolution,
>  > > > and pattern jam the fuck out of the 999 in the meantime. Now THAT's
>  > > "Doctor
>  > > > Obvious", if you ask me.
>  > > >
>  > > > On 2/21/07, damon <damon@> wrote:
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Esteemed Doctor Obvious-
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Yes, the clear recommendation for those using DAWs for
>  composition.
>  > > > > Certainly not a valuable recommendation for live use.
>  > > > >
>  > > > > On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Shagghie wrote:
>  > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > Demon-
>  > > > > > I'd (humbly) recommend a DAW for such purpose on the 999?
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > On 2/21/07, damon <damon@ <damon%40mac.com>> wrote:
>  > > > > > There is as of yet no song mode which may or may not be a
>  big deal
>  > > > > > for you. To me it keeps it firmly in the arena of plaything
>  instead
>  > > > > > of real compositional tool.... one can get a lot of mileage
>  out of
>  > > > > > playing mutes, but there are severe limits for us who look
>  outside
>  > > > > > the popular loop mentality for our compositions.
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Paul love wrote:
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > > Hi to all I am new to this forum but would like to know
>  if the
>  > > OS is
>  > > > > > > solid yet on the new xbase 999? I am use to a Machinedrum
>  and all
>  > > > > > its
>  > > > > > > perfection but would like to buy a 999 to go with my
>  MDUW! Is the
>  > > > > > 999
>  > > > > > > easy to learn and does it have a flexable way to arranging
>  > > patterns
>  > > > > > > within the song editor like the MDUW? Thanks, to all who
>  reply!
>  > > > > > >
>  > > > > > >
>  > > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>

#3879

From: "victorjohnmartinez" <victorjohn1@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: 999 a/b and last step

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, "Michaelis" <mich@...> wrote:

> this feature is still in 1.20 and I just tried it, it works fine.
First clear the pattern (on clearing the one-time flag gets reset).
>
> then program pattern A and after your done, switch to B and all
edits are copied into B. Editing in B now changes the settings to A to
create an alternative pattern with slight changes...a very cool
feature IMO. I liked the suggestion in the list so I implemented this
some weeks ago.
>

Ok, so to further my understanding of the interplay between Perf and
Pattern mode, as well as a/b mode...  When I clear the pattern, should
the settings in Pattern mode now be defaulted to the base settings of
the chosen kit??  And would I then, therefore, be able to start with
my chosen kits sounds and add motion to them?

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#3880

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 6:51 pm
Subject: Anyone else notice this possible 'bug' in Write mode? (1.22)

lsc5h4g

A few times last night, I noticed that when I'm in Peformance WRITE
mode, and editing, say, my HH'.... that once in awhile when I change
the HH pattern by selecting and unselecting various step buttons, that
the SNARE pattern would get changed in the process inadvertently.
Sure enough the snare would start triggering on one of the same exact
steps that I was selecting while in HH Write mode.

But, and this might be a clue as to how/why this is happening.... when
it happend a 2nd time, I got some High Toms (HTs) that started playing
while I was editing something else (I don't recall what the part was I
was editing this time), but...get this..I liked the way it sounded,
and so I decided to keep it.  When I pressed the WRITE button to get
out of Write mode, however, guess whay?  The HT pattern went back to
its original pattern it was playing before the 'bug'.

This means, I think, that the bug is occuring in the memory management
of the buffer while in Write mode.

I don't mind the bug too much for studio use, but for live performance
editing it could get 'interesting' to have parts start changing while
in WRITE mode jammig patterns...

Anyone else?  I'm running os 1.22 on SN#29 blonde bombshell boxen..

#3881

From: "jcarl0302" <jcarl0302@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: Anyone else notice this possible 'bug' in Write mode? (1.22)

jcarl0302

Confirmed. I see this all the time.

Thx, JC

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
> A few times last night, I noticed that when I'm in Peformance WRITE
> mode, and editing, say, my HH'.... that once in awhile when I change
> the HH pattern by selecting and unselecting various step buttons,
that
> the SNARE pattern would get changed in the process inadvertently.
> Sure enough the snare would start triggering on one of the same
exact
> steps that I was selecting while in HH Write mode.
>
> But, and this might be a clue as to how/why this is happening....
when
> it happend a 2nd time, I got some High Toms (HTs) that started
playing
> while I was editing something else (I don't recall what the part
was I
> was editing this time), but...get this..I liked the way it sounded,
> and so I decided to keep it.  When I pressed the WRITE button to get
> out of Write mode, however, guess whay?  The HT pattern went back to
> its original pattern it was playing before the 'bug'.
>
> This means, I think, that the bug is occuring in the memory
management
> of the buffer while in Write mode.
>
> I don't mind the bug too much for studio use, but for live
performance
> editing it could get 'interesting' to have parts start changing
while
> in WRITE mode jammig patterns...
>
> Anyone else?  I'm running os 1.22 on SN#29 blonde bombshell boxen..
>

#3882

From: skkatter <skkatter@...>
Date: Tue Oct 9, 2007 10:55 pm
Subject: Snare on last step (16) distorting

skkatter

I'm having a problem with my Jomox XBase999 and wanted to see if
anybody else was seeing (or rather hearing!) the same thing.

Say I have a normal blank pattern and I program one snare on the very
last step (16), now the snare will play on the 16th and will sound
fine. However, if while that pattern is playing, I press the up or
down button to change to another pattern, the snare on that last step
in my current pattern will always distort noticeably before the next
pattern is played (it doesn't matter what's in the next pattern, for
this example I had a blank pattern I was changing over to).

This also happens in song mode, the snare will distort if the next
pattern is a different one. It's an unusual problem because the snare
won't distort at all if the same pattern just keeps repeating.

The above was tested using a pattern in "fixed" mode (ie, it'll just
play A and not B). If I make a pattern in "alt" mode (ie, it plays A
and then B), it's only the snare on the 16th note of the B part of the
pattern that will distort if before it is played I press the up or
down button to switch to a new pattern. (I hope I'm explaining this
well!)

I've tried this with all the other instruments on the last step (16)
too, and it's only the snare that distorts when I switch patterns. I
don't have anything routed to the filter, and the snare distorts when
I use my headphones in the headphone jack, when I have the Xbase999
plugged in via the stereo mix output and also if I have the snare
coming out through the SD output jack.

Is this happening with anybody else out there? I can post up some
audio examples tomorrow when I have my PC set up properly (just on my
laptop at the moment).

-Stephen
--
http://www.skkatter.net

#3883

From: roel <q-mailing-list@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: Snare on last step (16) distorting

roelantonline

Confirmed.

It's like the 999 "thinks" a while before switching over to the next
pattern and therefore chatters a little.

best, roel



skkatter schreef:
>
>
> I'm having a problem with my Jomox XBase999 and wanted to see if
> anybody else was seeing (or rather hearing!) the same thing.
>
> Say I have a normal blank pattern and I program one snare on the very
> last step (16), now the snare will play on the 16th and will sound
> fine. However, if while that pattern is playing, I press the up or
> down button to change to another pattern, the snare on that last step
> in my current pattern will always distort noticeably before the next
> pattern is played (it doesn't matter what's in the next pattern, for
> this example I had a blank pattern I was changing over to).
>
> This also happens in song mode, the snare will distort if the next
> pattern is a different one. It's an unusual problem because the snare
> won't distort at all if the same pattern just keeps repeating.
>
> The above was tested using a pattern in "fixed" mode (ie, it'll just
> play A and not B). If I make a pattern in "alt" mode (ie, it plays A
> and then B), it's only the snare on the 16th note of the B part of the
> pattern that will distort if before it is played I press the up or
> down button to switch to a new pattern. (I hope I'm explaining this
> well!)
>
> I've tried this with all the other instruments on the last step (16)
> too, and it's only the snare that distorts when I switch patterns. I
> don't have anything routed to the filter, and the snare distorts when
> I use my headphones in the headphone jack, when I have the Xbase999
> plugged in via the stereo mix output and also if I have the snare
> coming out through the SD output jack.
>
> Is this happening with anybody else out there? I can post up some
> audio examples tomorrow when I have my PC set up properly (just on my
> laptop at the moment).
>
> -Stephen

#3884

From: roel <q-mailing-list@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:26 pm
Subject: Bugs: 16 steps grid editting in write mode

roelantonline

I found a bug in the pattern editing:

1. Clear and save two patterns in a row (e.g. Patt22 and Patt23)
2. Program some instruments with the steps on the first pattern and save
the pattern
3. Advance to the next pattern
4. The bug appears (the steps are still lit)
5a. Now Press an empty step in the pattern (the whole PREVIOUS pattn
gets copied and this step is added)
5b. Now Press a lit step in the pattern (the whole previous pattn gets
copied and this step is removed)

This happens with fully programmed patterns too!

Best , roel

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#3885

From: roel <q-mailing-list@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:27 pm
Subject: Bugs: 16steps display LEDS incorrectly on/off

roelantonline

I found a bug in the 16steps display (tested in both PATT Write and PERF
Write mode.)

16steps grid bug:

1. Clear and save two patterns in a row (e.g. Patt22 and Patt23)
2. Program some instruments with the steps on the first pattern and save
the pattern
3. Advance to the next pattern
4. The bug appears: programmed steps are still lit (of course no sound)
5. Save the empty pattern again: grid gets empty like it should
6. Switch back to previous pattern
7. The bug appears again: programmed steps sound but steps are not lit

This bug you can eliminate by stopping and starting the 999 seq.


Best, roel

#3886

From: roel <q-mailing-list@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:30 pm
Subject: Ideas!! :) 999 ideas, track rotation and even better shortcuts

roelantonline

And of course some ideas to make working with the 999 even more creative
and more efficient!

Idea 1:
Rotating instrument tracks.
Is there a way yet to shift one instruments track? I.e. rotate the steps
in a pattern clockwise or counter-clockwise while the other tracks
remain in time? Would be a nice imo.


Idea 2:
Even better shortcuts!
..to make working with the 999 much much more efficient and quickly do
actions!

Store kit:  Hold Shift + press '1' two times
Clear Patt: Hold Shift + press '2' two times
Store Patt: Hold shift + press '3' two times

Can also be used for '6' track shuffle.

What do you think? And of course JM what do you think?

keep grooving!
roel

#3887

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: Ideas!! :) 999 ideas, track rotation and even better shortcuts

lsc5h4g

I like the shortcuts, but maybe not so much the SHIFT #2 clear pattern one...

that could be frusterating if unintentionally performed... :)

On 10/10/07, roel <q-mailing-list@...> wrote:

And of course some ideas to make working with the 999 even more creative
and more efficient!

Idea 1:
Rotating instrument tracks.
Is there a way yet to shift one instruments track? I.e. rotate the steps
in a pattern clockwise or counter-clockwise while the other tracks
remain in time? Would be a nice imo.

Idea 2:
Even better shortcuts!
..to make working with the 999 much much more efficient and quickly do
actions!

Store kit: Hold Shift + press '1' two times
Clear Patt: Hold Shift + press '2' two times
Store Patt: Hold shift + press '3' two times

Can also be used for '6' track shuffle.

What do you think? And of course JM what do you think?

keep grooving!
roel

#3888

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: Bugs: 16steps display LEDS incorrectly on/off

lsc5h4g

I wonder if these bugs are related to the intermittant bug I'm noticing...

It seems some parts are 'running over' into other parts, such that placing a step the SNARE part on

steps 5 and 13, will ERASE bass drum parts on those same steps....

It must be memory/ write buffer management.... ?

I would like to see a whole new mode implemented for 'jamming'. One that

does not require a 'write buffer' while in WRITE mode.... but rather just allows

a musician to start with a saved pattern, the perform the crap out of it by jamming

steps on and off during performance, but without worrying about or filling a WRITE Buffer.

In other words, a mode that is not really a WRITE mode, but which still allows you to jam on a pattern

for awhile without care or worry of ever writing a buffer to memory.

Savvy?

s

On 10/10/07, roel <q-mailing-list@...> wrote:

I found a bug in the 16steps display (tested in both PATT Write and PERF
Write mode.)

16steps grid bug:

1. Clear and save two patterns in a row (e.g. Patt22 and Patt23)
2. Program some instruments with the steps on the first pattern and save
the pattern
3. Advance to the next pattern
4. The bug appears: programmed steps are still lit (of course no sound)
5. Save the empty pattern again: grid gets empty like it should
6. Switch back to previous pattern
7. The bug appears again: programmed steps sound but steps are not lit

This bug you can eliminate by stopping and starting the 999 seq.

Best, roel

#3889

From: roel <q-mailing-list@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: Bugs: 16steps display LEDS incorrectly on/off

roelantonline

In a way a mode which immideately stores any change made to patterns?
Could be nice but be shure to use only ONE bank for this! :)

best, roel

Shagghie schreef:
>
>
> In other words, a mode that is not really a WRITE mode, but which still
> allows you to jam on a pattern
> for awhile without care or worry of ever writing a buffer to memory.
>
> Savvy?
>
> s
>

#3890

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: Bugs: 16steps display LEDS incorrectly on/off

lsc5h4g

Well, now that you say that, it makes me think... my initial logic I think was bad. In order to be able to 'jam' a pattern without worrying about being in a 'write buffer', the machine STILL must be, well, using a buffer! Duh! Sorry about that....   I think I am trying to think of away to avoid some of these "Buffer bugs" I see while in Write mode. I thought to myself.... "well, if the machine doesn't have to worry about possibly having to write the buffer to static memory, then it could be 'free' of having to do any memory-intensive memory mangement." However, that is bad logic, as it still must be able to remember what someone is doing as they switch between different parts, and jam steps of parts on and off, etc..

So, yes... now on to your suggestion below, which I actually like. A mode that is like the FR-777 or Mobius sequencer... that simply leaves off where you left off so that it is constantly saving to memory all the time. This would be nice while building a kit, so that you don't have to constantly be saving the kit and pattern all the time (for fear of accidentally hitting the Up/Down buttons while designing a kit/pattern).

In the end, I think your shortcut suggestions would be excellent, as a "1/2 way" solution to minimize the disruption/fear in the kit/pattern building phase.   Either option is good/better I think. I would *personally* prefer a workflow *option* that is automatically writing to pattern/kit memory as you build your delicate kit up from the ground up. But I'll take short cuts for kit/pattern saves any day, too!

As always, your thoughts and insight are very helpful to the forum Roel... please keep them up. Would also be nice to see other users chime in as well... a few do, but I know there are dozens of 'lurkers' out there that own 999's! :)   C'mon guys...whatcha thinkin'?

On 10/10/07, roel <q-mailing-list@...> wrote:

In a way a mode which immideately stores any change made to patterns?
Could be nice but be shure to use only ONE bank for this! :)

best, roel

Shagghie schreef:
>
>
> In other words, a mode that is not really a WRITE mode, but which still
> allows you to jam on a pattern
> for awhile without care or worry of ever writing a buffer to memory.
>
> Savvy?
>
> s
>

#3891

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:42 pm
Subject: Workflow question on building kits...

lsc5h4g

Anyone-
Where/how do you personally prefer to build up a kit and or pattern? Do you start in PERF mode or PATT mode, for example. I find myself starting in PERF mode, but then when I really get a kit tuned up that I like, I don't have a way to switch to PATT mode for individual step edits without losing my PERF kit I just tuned up... I'm admitting my ignorance here... what is a better workflow?
-Shag
new to 999 but not 09

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#3892

From: "victorjohnmartinez" <victorjohn1@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: Workflow question on building kits...

This is me as well, curious to know what the best way to translate my
recent kit settings in Perf mode to Pattern mode is?

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone-
> Where/how do you personally prefer to build up a kit and or pattern?
   Do
> you start in PERF mode or PATT mode, for example.  I find myself
starting in
> PERF mode, but then when I really get a kit tuned up that I like, I
don't
> have a way to switch to PATT mode for individual step edits without
losing
> my PERF kit I just tuned up...   I'm admitting my ignorance here...
what is
> a better workflow?
> -Shag
> new to 999 but not 09
>

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#3893

From: Computer Controlled <acidted@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Workflow question on building kits...

larrykleinke

I'll never understand the use of Patt mode. Why would we need a mode
where you can't edit the drum sounds at all?  Not to mention, i don't
even know how to save my drum kits from Perf mode into Patt mode.  I
only ever use Patt. mode to copy patterns.



victorjohnmartinez wrote:
> This is me as well, curious to know what the best way to translate my
> recent kit settings in Perf mode to Pattern mode is?
>
> --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
>> Anyone-
>> Where/how do you personally prefer to build up a kit and or pattern?
>>
>   Do
>
>> you start in PERF mode or PATT mode, for example.  I find myself
>>
> starting in
>
>> PERF mode, but then when I really get a kit tuned up that I like, I
>>
> don't
>
>> have a way to switch to PATT mode for individual step edits without
>>
> losing
>
>> my PERF kit I just tuned up...   I'm admitting my ignorance here...
>>
> what is
>
>> a better workflow?
>> -Shag
>> new to 999 but not 09
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

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#3894

From: "victorjohnmartinez" <victorjohn1@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:05 pm
Subject: Dr. Walker xBase09 Ser. #1 for sale!!!

Great condition, first of 25 ever made.  Comes with the custom
hand-picked samples from Dr. Walker himself, and is one of the most
sought after xBase09se on planet earth, literally.

I'm taking the first best offer over $1000 before going on ebay.

Awesome camo-olive green and yellow paint job.  This was one of Dr.
Walker's two personal units that he played on stage many times...the
sampes are some of my favorites ever for the HH's (in fact the hats
from this machine are on our next releases tekfunk002 & 003) and other
oddities he threw in there, and I'll be sampling this thing from now
until I get a best offer.

Serious collectors and drum machine fanatics out there make an offer.

I'm a huge Dr. Walker fan, and a huge JM fan, and it's come down to
either to the fact that I can't afford to own 2 drum machines anymore
as I need a new computer (starving musician, anyone?)

Kinda sad, really, as this drum machine has a certain inspiring magic
to it...  I've seemed to use it on every track since I got it.

Here's the original thread that got me all spun up in the first
place... for nostalgia's sake:
http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/998210/page/4?P\
HPSESSID=931ccaa273f6dd499c99efd97b53e3a4

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#3895

From: "Grant Beaugard" <gbeaugard@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:57 am
Subject: Re: 1.22 Bug: No way to set GLOBAL filter settings and/or MUTE the filter.

gbeaugard

Yes yes yes!!!!  This is what we call "expected behavior" in software land.


--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
> Roel-
>
> Yes!  I like this idea a lot.  I don't use a filtered and Dry signal at the
> same time anyway...it doesn't even make very much sense to do that.  If you
> want the 'DRY' signal when working in Filtered mode, you just have to open
> up the filter all the way....   And, if you are filtered on top of dry
> signal, you won't hear very much filter anyway, b/c the frequency is already
> a component of the Dry signal anyway...
>
> so yes, I like the proposed solution below:
>
> The change should be (new OS version):
> x = to main output only
> ^ = to filter only
>
> This way each part can either be Filtered or Dry, and the artist gets to
> choose on the fly!  Briliant!
>
> Ok, i'm off to find a beer now....very happy.
>
> Shagghie
>
>
> On 9/22/07, roel <q-mailing-list@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Yes.. that would unmute both the filtered and the dry signal of an
> > instrument part.
> > So... thinking.... That that would require a change in the filter routing.
> >
> > "Old" OS1.22 instrument and filter routing:
> > x = to main output only
> > ^ = to filter AND to main output.
> >
> > The change should be (new OS version):
> > x = to main output only
> > ^ = to filter only
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Only these changes make it impossible to put the filtered signal on top
> > of the dry signal, maybe we forget situations where that is needed
> > (though myself I hardly or never use a dry + filtered signal of the same
> > source) ??
> >
> > roel
> >
> > Shagghie schreef:
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes...Mute switch before the filter tap, and I think we are all OK...
> > >
> > > But... would it still be the case that UNmuting a Filter part also
> > > UNmutes the DRY signal? That part is still annoying. :)
> > >
> > > -s
> > >
> > > On 9/22/07, *roel* <q-mailing-list@...<q-mailing-list%40xs4all.nl>
> > > <mailto:q-mailing-list@... <q-mailing-list%40xs4all.nl>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Shaggie:
> > >
> > > With a global filter disable funtion you'd cut off all filtered signal
> > > even when you not mute parts going through the filter. Therefore I
> > > thought of a mute switch connected to the part-mute switch.
> > >
> > > The four cable solution is a good option I guess. Anyway the filter
> > > output can already be split from the outputs, that is no problem with
> > > some cables. Even modding some extra out's on the 999 would be no
> > > problem. but those options still wouldn't make sense to MUTE certain
> > > instrument parts out of the rest of the signal, or out of the filtered
> > > signal if you like.
> > >
> > > The point you make about the wet/dry is correct, but indeed the 999 has
> > > such a complex filter I wouldn't want to miss that. So filtering is
> > > done
> > > in the box with the 999.
> > >
> > > Ehm, perhaps most sense makes a filter routing in three steps, but in
> > > that case I cannot yet completely picture the MUTE switches
> > > position(s).
> > > anyway I have thought and described, I think it can be done with the
> > > two
> > > available settings, but needs changing one of those.
> > >
> > > ^is signal fully (and only)(this is the change) to the filter, mute
> > > switch switches off the part to the filter, this can keep the filter
> > > resonating nicely when it's input is cut off by the muteswitch.
> > > The MUTE switch should before the filter.
> > >
> > > x is signal fully to main outputs, nothing to the filter.
> > > As well here can the MUTE switch be placed before the filter tap.
> > >
> > > Well I think that is actually the whole solution. The problem is the
> > > location of the MUTE switch? MUTE switch should be before the filter
> > > tap
> > > and all problems are gone!
> > >
> > > [instrument]-----MUTE----^/x(filter tap)------->[main output]
> > >
> > > best, Roel
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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#3896

From: "Grant Beaugard" <gbeaugard@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:06 am
Subject: Re: Ideas!! :) 999 ideas, track rotation and even better shortcuts

gbeaugard

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, roel <q-mailing-list@...> wrote:
>
> And of course some ideas to make working with the 999 even more creative
> and more efficient!
>
> Idea 1:
> Rotating instrument tracks.
> Is there a way yet to shift one instruments track? I.e. rotate the steps
> in a pattern clockwise or counter-clockwise while the other tracks
> remain in time? Would be a nice imo.
>
>
> Idea 2:
> Even better shortcuts!
> ..to make working with the 999 much much more efficient and quickly do
> actions!
>
> Store kit:  Hold Shift + press '1' two times
> Clear Patt: Hold Shift + press '2' two times
> Store Patt: Hold shift + press '3' two times
>
> Can also be used for '6' track shuffle.
>
> What do you think? And of course JM what do you think?
>
> keep grooving!
> roel
>

I like the rotate idea.

Here is another idea I have had since I got 999:

2 new AB playback modes.  3AB = AAAB  A3B = ABBB

This is a cheap way to get some automatic 4 bar variation in perf mode without
making a
4 bar song and/or copying patterns/overlaping/changing length.  And it will keep
going
indefinitely for live performance unlike song mode.  You can have normal normal
normal
fill, or crash normal normal normal.

Does this make sense to everyone?

-G

#3897

From: Shagghie <shagghie@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:04 am
Subject: Re: Re: Ideas!! :) 999 ideas, track rotation and even better shortcuts

lsc5h4g

Grant-
Yes, makes sense to me for sure, however, any suggestions on how it
would be implemented as far as button presses, etc.?

On 10/10/07, Grant Beaugard <gbeaugard@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, roel <q-mailing-list@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > And of course some ideas to make working with the 999 even more creative
>  > and more efficient!
>  >
>  > Idea 1:
>  > Rotating instrument tracks.
>  > Is there a way yet to shift one instruments track? I.e. rotate the steps
>  > in a pattern clockwise or counter-clockwise while the other tracks
>  > remain in time? Would be a nice imo.
>  >
>  >
>  > Idea 2:
>  > Even better shortcuts!
>  > ..to make working with the 999 much much more efficient and quickly do
>  > actions!
>  >
>  > Store kit: Hold Shift + press '1' two times
>  > Clear Patt: Hold Shift + press '2' two times
>  > Store Patt: Hold shift + press '3' two times
>  >
>  > Can also be used for '6' track shuffle.
>  >
>  > What do you think? And of course JM what do you think?
>  >
>  > keep grooving!
>  > roel
>  >
>
>  I like the rotate idea.
>
>  Here is another idea I have had since I got 999:
>
>  2 new AB playback modes. 3AB = AAAB A3B = ABBB
>
>  This is a cheap way to get some automatic 4 bar variation in perf mode
> without making a
>  4 bar song and/or copying patterns/overlaping/changing length. And it will
> keep going
>  indefinitely for live performance unlike song mode. You can have normal
> normal normal
>  fill, or crash normal normal normal.
>
>  Does this make sense to everyone?
>
>  -G
>
>