How do you like:

# 123

i guess that there are not mmuch higher serialnumbers...

S.


--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
> #86 I think...
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 9:04 PM, mrgregsully <gregsully@...> wrote:
> > Now that the production life of the Synsun is over, what was the final
> > count on the number of units made?
> >
> > Greg #82
> >
> >
>

# 0169, here.  Rui bought it in late 2006, IIRC, and I read
that the last new ones were produced in the summer of 2007.
I'll hazard to guess that we're looking at fewer than 200
units, total.

--
Yours,
Niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
Aleph Null.                             A Simple Insinuation Around Silence.
http://aleph-null.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

Hi all!

How do you build your own kits?
I mean:
If you have a kit you like but you don't like say the snare, how can
you choose another snare?
Or: if you have a snare you like, how can you include it in a
different kit?
Are there any copy/paste or scroll functions I missed?

Thank you!

hey watson...got any choonz you used it on i could hear by chance?

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:40 PM, watson <companyofquail@...> wrote:
> like mint with manual, only gigged twice with anvil case and non smoking
> areas. remained in my studio since then used a lot but with care.
> everything works fine on it. i have the original manaul, psu but no box.  i
> am the second owner, the previous owner kept it in his smoke free studio and
> never gigged it.  pics on request, check my AH references and if you would
> like to call please do  423 340 0202
>
> price 3000 plus shipping and paypal fees,  money order or bank wire is fne,
> i will ship anywhere in the world but will not lie on the customs form.
>
> watson
>
> --
> i warned you not to go out tonight...
>

I do hope we finally get a real STEREO synth!


--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, watson <companyofquail@...> wrote:
>
> i think everyone is excited.... i think it is coming in the fall or
> winter... and its gonna rule hopefully.
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:09 AM, mrgregsully <gregsully@...> wrote:
>
> >   I'm supprised there has not been more chatter about this Sunsyn 2.0
> > update? Can anyone confirm this or know the status of this final
> > "ultimate" Sunsyn update?
> >
> > Greg #82
> >
> > --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com <jomox%40yahoogroups.com>,
"slickslackcdn"
> > <slickleslack@> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2008/04/sunsyn-20-update.html
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> i warned you not to go out tonight...
>

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 02:39:48AM -0000, rouse_vision wrote:
> I do hope we finally get a real STEREO synth!

Would you please elaborate?

--
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Niall.
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http://aleph-null.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

I go for a mono synth!

----- Original Message -----
From: "rouse_vision" <rouse_vision@...>
To: <jomox@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:39 AM
Subject: [jomox] Re: SunSyn 2.0


> I do hope we finally get a real STEREO synth!
>
>
> --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, watson <companyofquail@...> wrote:
> >
> > i think everyone is excited.... i think it is coming in the fall or
> > winter... and its gonna rule hopefully.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:09 AM, mrgregsully <gregsully@...> wrote:
> >
> > >   I'm supprised there has not been more chatter about this Sunsyn 2.0
> > > update? Can anyone confirm this or know the status of this final
> > > "ultimate" Sunsyn update?
> > >
> > > Greg #82
> > >
> > > --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com <jomox%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "slickslackcdn"
> > > <slickleslack@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2008/04/sunsyn-20-update.html
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > i warned you not to go out tonight...
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi Juergen,

> I go for a mono synth!
I agree: An icepick in the forehead[*] is mono too ;-)

Florian

[*]Any similarity to some text of frank zappa is accidental

I do hope we finally get a real STEREO synth!

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, watson <companyofquail@...> wrote:
>
> i think everyone is excited.... i think it is coming in the fall or
> winter... and its gonna rule hopefully.
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:09 AM, mrgregsully <gregsully@...> wrote:
>
> > I'm supprised there has not been more chatter about this Sunsyn 2.0
> > update? Can anyone confirm this or know the status of this final
> > "ultimate" Sunsyn update?
> >
> > Greg #82
> >
> > --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com <jomox%40yahoogroups.com>,
"slickslackcdn"
> > <slickleslack@> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2008/04/sunsyn-20-update.html
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> i warned you not to go out tonight...
>

concentrate on the sole necessary:

One VCO, one VCF, one Envelope, one Output,

one ear!

...no more cry :-)



----- Original Message -----
From: "Florian Anwander" <Florian.Anwander@...>
To: <jomox@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [jomox] Re: SunSyn 2.0


> Hi Juergen,
>
> > I go for a mono synth!
> I agree: An icepick in the forehead[*] is mono too ;-)
>
> Florian
>
> [*]Any similarity to some text of frank zappa is accidental
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi Juergen,

Michaelis wrote:
> concentrate on the sole necessary:
> ...
> one ear!
> ...no more cry :-)
sounds a little bit like Vincent van Gogh :-/

Florian

Hi Juergen,

Michaelis wrote:
> concentrate on the sole necessary:
> ...
> one ear!
> ...no more cry :-)
sounds a little bit like Vincent van Gogh :-/

Florian

the true artist has to sacrifice something...

one stereo side to get the truth;)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Florian Anwander" <Florian.Anwander@...>
To: <jomox@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [jomox] Re: SunSyn 2.0


> Hi Juergen,
>
> Michaelis wrote:
> > concentrate on the sole necessary:
> > ...
> > one ear!
> > ...no more cry :-)
> sounds a little bit like Vincent van Gogh :-/
>
> Florian
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Yahoo

To: jomox@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:05 PM

Subject: Re: [jomox] Re: SunSyn 2.0

So Juergen give me one more VCO/filter /VCA cause I have 2 ears !!! Hehehe
www.myspace.com/alx002

Le 3 juin 08 à 12:17, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@...> a écrit :

Hi Juergen,

Michaelis wrote:
> concentrate on the sole necessary:
> ...
> one ear!
> ...no more cry :-)
sounds a little bit like Vincent van Gogh :-/

Florian

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the sunsyn has 2 + 2 already and a stereo output. and panning vcas for every voice.

 

and a a panning lfo for stereo sound already.

 

more stereo only if I grow another ear;)

 

JM

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Yahoo

To: jomox@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:05 PM

Subject: Re: [jomox] Re: SunSyn 2.0

So Juergen give me one more VCO/filter /VCA cause I have 2 ears !!! Hehehe
www.myspace.com/alx002

Le 3 juin 08 à 12:17, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de> a écrit :

Hi Juergen,

Michaelis wrote:
> concentrate on the sole necessary:
> ...
> one ear!
> ...no more cry :-)
sounds a little bit like Vincent van Gogh :-/

Florian

__________________________________________________
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En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Mail vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non sollicités
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Just a quick clarification...the Sunsyn 2.0 is a software upgrade for
existing SunSyns, not a new instrument, correct?

-Robbie Ryan
http://iloveanalogue.blogspot.com

1000 Pardons...I'm not a SunSyn owner (but I wish I was!)

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:39:27PM -0000, kungfugirlsclub wrote:
> Just a quick clarification...the Sunsyn 2.0 is a software upgrade for
> existing SunSyns, not a new instrument, correct?

Some hardware changes will be made to accommodate the new
software changes, IIRC.

--
Yours,
Niall.
.. .  .   .    .     .       .           .             .                 .
Aleph Null.                             A Simple Insinuation Around Silence.
http://aleph-null.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..

Just a quick clarification...the Sunsyn 2.0 is a software upgrade for
existing SunSyns, not a new instrument, correct?

-Robbie Ryan
http://iloveanalogue.blogspot.com

1000 Pardons...I'm not a SunSyn owner (but I wish I was!)

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, "edo_arengi" <edoardo.arengi@...> wrote:
>
> Same problem here. I don't know if it is related with a software
> update, since I got my XBASE999 used and I had this problem since the
> beginning. With the latest OS installed (1.31) I don't have this issue
> for now.
> BTW: the unwanted reboot reset all patterns (Banks C and D) to a
> strange default pattern with all 16ths active deleting all my work!
> But sometimes all characters still suddenly disappear from the LCD and
> I get just a green square!
>

I will try the 1.31 OS. The ChangeLog does not mention any fix
specific to crash or error, is there really a difference between 1.30
and 1.31?

If the OS is not reliable then I must sell my XBASE999. Can any
XBASE888 owners comment on the reliability of their units compared to
the XBASE999? Has anyone seen the XBASE888 crash like this?

are the crashes at random?
my 999 has 1.30 for a while now but i didn't notice it crash or reboot.
however i am not watching the 999 full time when it does not run :)

best. roel


Eric Shattow schreef:
>
> --- In jomox@yahoogroups.com <mailto:jomox%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "edo_arengi" <edoardo.arengi@...> wrote:
> >
> > Same problem here. I don't know if it is related with a software
> > update, since I got my XBASE999 used and I had this problem since the
> > beginning. With the latest OS installed (1.31) I don't have this issue
> > for now.
> > BTW: the unwanted reboot reset all patterns (Banks C and D) to a
> > strange default pattern with all 16ths active deleting all my work!
> > But sometimes all characters still suddenly disappear from the LCD and
> > I get just a green square!
> >
>
> I will try the 1.31 OS. The ChangeLog does not mention any fix
> specific to crash or error, is there really a difference between 1.30
> and 1.31?
>
> If the OS is not reliable then I must sell my XBASE999. Can any
> XBASE888 owners comment on the reliability of their units compared to
> the XBASE999? Has anyone seen the XBASE888 crash like this?
>
>
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--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
> We ALL just need to jump on board OSC already!
>

OSC on the Neuronium Resonator might have been a winner.

There is no provision in the OSC spec for timing, and no standard for
encapsulating MIDI note data... not that the Neuronium Resonator needs
this, right?

It would be a no-go for the SunSyn or other note-based synths, unless
you decided to completely ignore MIDI and trigger sounds by their
frequency in Hz. This is too radical and expensive to develop, given
the JoMoX "one man army" method.

Open Sound Control does not specify a physical transport layer nor
does it have a comparable cost of implementation. There's an example
of using OSC over UDP/IP with Ethernet as the physical transport
layer, which requires a relatively expensive micro controller and
RJ-45 socket. You would also be alienating users whose equipment is
all MIDI and USB-MIDI based. The lower cost and ubiquity of MIDI is
the reason why MIDI control is still widely used in designs.

It would be great to see Open Sound Control on any analogue synthesizer
hardware module. I just don't see how this can happen as a JoMoX
product, the way things are now.

Before OSC, we need open source licensed firmware code. That's another
topic, I will post on soon.

For reference on OSC:  http://opensoundcontrol.org/spec-1_0

1. Y! group is too time-consuming to use

2. JoMoX firmware is not improving quickly enough to meet the
community demand

3. There are no forums to report firmware bugs, write product
documentation, share tutorials, and search for existing answers to
questions.

Please, fellow people in the JoMoX community, hear me and be heard.

The Y! user interface is really bad and can't be helped. I don't think
the answer is yet another group, so what about asking Jürgen for a
forum on the jomox.com website?

I am frustrated with the XBase999 crash bugs. Jürgen cannot magically
find and fix all problems. If he could, there are only 24 hours in the
day, and so it still would never be done. I suspect that Jürgen may be
some kind of magic super hero anyways. Because I cannot change the day
to have 50 hours, I think we must ask Jürgen to re-license the
firmware source code with General Public License version 2 copyright.
The JoMoX community should be trusted to read the firmware source code
and improve it. I am certain to find an engineer who will fix problems
in exchange for beer. With the GPLv2 licensing, he would be required
by copyright law to provide the changes back to Jürgen and everyone in
this community. By trusting in a community to find and identify
problems, the firmware can improve more quickly.

JoMoX firmware releases are disappointing, and continue to disappoint
me. There must be a lot of time, effort, money, and thought going into
these releases, yet it is still not enough to meet the demand. I want
my JoMoX product to work. If there's something broken or buggy, then I
want a copy of the source code that is broken or buggy. I won't
pretend to know how to fix it, but some smart friend of mine may know
the answer.

For reference, there is a company successfully nurturing their
community with forums and open-source firmware code releases:

http://www.genoqs.net/

Also, the text of the source code license they use (GPLv2) can be read
and understood fully in one evening:

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html

These reasons show someone who has not seriously considered or
educated themselves about open source firmware code:

- Not being a DIY hobbyist
- Not being Jesus
- Spending months and writing books to explain his hardware to the
person who helps write the firmware

It sounds like JM has heard and repeated a popular misconception about
open source *software*.

I don't see how being a DIY hobbyist is related to open source
firmware code licensing.

I think that the reference to Jesus is a joke and it is unfair, the
person he responded to on this community list was offering their help
without payment. Why would you reject this person's offer of help like
this, with a joke?

The time and money needed to develop the first firmware code is a sunk
cost. This is part of firmware development and it's not something that
users can do. You have to do this whether the code is open source
licensed or kept proprietary, it's a non-event.

We're talking about *firmware* which requires hardware. Open source
firmware code development is not a charity, it is a model of
most-efficient development.

Searching for these references was no easy task by the way. Y! group
search results are difficult to navigate. That's what I'm talking
about here, the community itself is okay but our tools are kind of
lame. The joke begins when we offer to help fix firmware code, like it
is impossible.

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, Shagghie <shagghie@...> wrote:
>
> HI Eric-
> Welcome to the community. I think best thing to do off the bat is to
search
> the older threads here, as this has been discussed quite a bit in
the past.
> Juergen may choose to answer this email as well, but he's already
had to do
> so several times in the recent past.  I suggest doing a search, and then
> forming a secondary opinion based on their review, and responding
back again
> to the forum with your thoughts.  We are a very supportive, open, and
> transparent user community, and welcome your thoughts, even if JM
might in
> the end disagree, and for very good, well-stated reasons that he's
stated in
> the recent past.
> Ta!
>
> shag
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Eric Shattow <lucent@...> wrote:
>
> >   1. Y! group is too time-consuming to use
> >
> > 2. JoMoX firmware is not improving quickly enough to meet the
> > community demand
> >
> > 3. There are no forums to report firmware bugs, write product
> > documentation, share tutorials, and search for existing answers to
> > questions.
> >
> > Please, fellow people in the JoMoX community, hear me and be heard.
> >
> > The Y! user interface is really bad and can't be helped. I don't think
> > the answer is yet another group, so what about asking Jürgen for a
> > forum on the jomox.com website?
> >
> > I am frustrated with the XBase999 crash bugs. Jürgen cannot magically
> > find and fix all problems. If he could, there are only 24 hours in the
> > day, and so it still would never be done. I suspect that Jürgen may be
> > some kind of magic super hero anyways. Because I cannot change the day
> > to have 50 hours, I think we must ask Jürgen to re-license the
> > firmware source code with General Public License version 2 copyright.
> > The JoMoX community should be trusted to read the firmware source code
> > and improve it. I am certain to find an engineer who will fix problems
> > in exchange for beer. With the GPLv2 licensing, he would be required
> > by copyright law to provide the changes back to Jürgen and everyone in
> > this community. By trusting in a community to find and identify
> > problems, the firmware can improve more quickly.
> >
> > JoMoX firmware releases are disappointing, and continue to disappoint
> > me. There must be a lot of time, effort, money, and thought going into
> > these releases, yet it is still not enough to meet the demand. I want
> > my JoMoX product to work. If there's something broken or buggy, then I
> > want a copy of the source code that is broken or buggy. I won't
> > pretend to know how to fix it, but some smart friend of mine may know
> > the answer.
> >
> > For reference, there is a company successfully nurturing their
> > community with forums and open-source firmware code releases:
> >
> > http://www.genoqs.net/
> >
> > Also, the text of the source code license they use (GPLv2) can be read
> > and understood fully in one evening:
> >
> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi Eric

> It sounds like JM has heard and repeated a popular misconception
about
> open source *software*.

Lets not forget that Jurgen does not have to justify his reasons to
not adopt open source.  Simply saying "No" is sufficient; in fact, if
I were Jurgen I would struggle to find a single reason to even
consider a "Yes".

> Y! group search results are difficult to navigate.

Huh? The Yahoo interface is as simple as it gets, after all, its
designed to allow someone with very little computing experience to
navigate/search/post/etc without effort. Heck, I can even use it!

But as Mr Shaggie says, maybe Jurgen will respond in person.

Ta,

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

--- In jomox@yahoogroups.com, "edo_arengi" <edoardo.arengi@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> How do you build your own kits?
> I mean:
> If you have a kit you like but you don't like say the snare, how can
> you choose another snare?
> Or: if you have a snare you like, how can you include it in a
> different kit?
> Are there any copy/paste or scroll functions I missed?
>
> Thank you!
>


I'm sorry for this little bump...
But really anyone here? Anyone who wants to build his/her own kits and
reuse a good custom made snare in another kit?
Am I missing something?

Come on Jomoxans!