hi list:
Either me, or my Xbase is ill.

I'm having a small 'creeping' timing error in the Xbase's midi
output. I'm sorry if this has been covered here already,
If you can forward me to the correct archives it would be very
helpful.

Why does the Xbase(ROMv2.09) seem to feed MIDI clock that causes a
'creeping ahead' of the tempo into my sequencer's time base? Is this a
design flaw, or a feature?

The Xbase's internal sequencer's performance, does not
stay in time with the sequencer/sequence driven from it. I'm using Doepfer
Schaltwerk slave'd to the Xbase's midi clock. The error is very slight, about
5milliseconds (.005sec) every 4 minutes or so. I can fix it by stopping
and starting, but that gets old fast...

When I slave the Xbase's timebase to Schaltwerk's midi timing clock,
everything is fine. Even running all day.

The hard part is, I don't know whats wrong. I *really* like the
Xbase, and don't want to give it up as master tempo controller for the rig.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for your input,
/jk

jk, are you able to test your xbase out with something else? Are you sure
it's not the Schaltwerk or a bad midi chord?

Brana

----- Original Message -----
From: "jk" <selsyn@...>
To: <jomox@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:14 PM
Subject: [jomox] Xbase midi lag?


> hi list:
> Either me, or my Xbase is ill.
>
> I'm having a small 'creeping' timing error in the Xbase's midi
> output. I'm sorry if this has been covered here already,
> If you can forward me to the correct archives it would be very
> helpful.
>
> Why does the Xbase(ROMv2.09) seem to feed MIDI clock that causes a
> 'creeping ahead' of the tempo into my sequencer's time base? Is this a
> design flaw, or a feature?
>
> The Xbase's internal sequencer's performance, does not
> stay in time with the sequencer/sequence driven from it. I'm using Doepfer
> Schaltwerk slave'd to the Xbase's midi clock. The error is very slight,
about
> 5milliseconds (.005sec) every 4 minutes or so. I can fix it by stopping
> and starting, but that gets old fast...
>
> When I slave the Xbase's timebase to Schaltwerk's midi timing clock,
> everything is fine. Even running all day.
>
> The hard part is, I don't know whats wrong. I *really* like the
> Xbase, and don't want to give it up as master tempo controller for the
rig.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks in advance for your input,
> /jk
>
>
>
>
>

Hi--

I should be FINALLY picking up the airbase within a few weeks.  But
then the question comes to controlling it.  Does anyone have a
recommendation?  At home i plan to begin working with Logic, so it
shouldn't be a big deal there, but live i don't want a computer.

Currently i just have a mc-5o5 and a cheapy controller key.  But i'm
thinking something with lots of knobs would be good for the airbase
paramaters eh?  Love to hear what you guys use.  Thanks!

{mr}klown
http://www.mp3.com/mrklown/

----- Original Message -----

From: Mr Klown

To: jomox@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 11:28 AM

Subject: [jomox] Controller

Hi--

I should be FINALLY picking up the airbase within a few weeks.  But
then the question comes to controlling it.  Does anyone have a
recommendation?  At home i plan to begin working with Logic, so it
shouldn't be a big deal there, but live i don't want a computer.

Currently i just have a mc-5o5 and a cheapy controller key.  But i'm
thinking something with lots of knobs would be good for the airbase
paramaters eh?  Love to hear what you guys use.  Thanks!

{mr}klown
http://www.mp3.com/mrklown/

----- Original Message -----

From: Martijn

To: jomox@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jomox] Controller

The IBK10 seems to be great.

 

Gr.

 

Martijn

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mr Klown

To: jomox@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 11:28 AM

Subject: [jomox] Controller

Hi--

I should be FINALLY picking up the airbase within a few weeks.  But
then the question comes to controlling it.  Does anyone have a
recommendation?  At home i plan to begin working with Logic, so it
shouldn't be a big deal there, but live i don't want a computer.

Currently i just have a mc-5o5 and a cheapy controller key.  But i'm
thinking something with lots of knobs would be good for the airbase
paramaters eh?  Love to hear what you guys use.  Thanks!

{mr}klown
http://www.mp3.com/mrklown/

----- Original Message -----

From: Todd Wollons

To: jomox@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 11:45 PM

Subject: Re: [jomox] Controller

Who makes the IBK10?

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Martijn

To: jomox@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:52 PM

Subject: Re: [jomox] Controller

The IBK10 seems to be great.

 

Gr.

 

Martijn

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mr Klown

To: jomox@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 11:28 AM

Subject: [jomox] Controller

Hi--

I should be FINALLY picking up the airbase within a few weeks.  But
then the question comes to controlling it.  Does anyone have a
recommendation?  At home i plan to begin working with Logic, so it
shouldn't be a big deal there, but live i don't want a computer.

Currently i just have a mc-5o5 and a cheapy controller key.  But i'm
thinking something with lots of knobs would be good for the airbase
paramaters eh?  Love to hear what you guys use.  Thanks!

{mr}klown
http://www.mp3.com/mrklown/

My Xbase, now 3 months old, is malfunctioning.  Approx. 15 minutes after
powering up and running the sequencer, I hear a small 'pop' and then the
audio drops out.  The sequencer keeps running and I can access all of it's
various functions, but I get no sound.  If I power the unit down and then
back up again (waiting a full 30 seconds in between) the unit performs
normally for about 2 minutes before the problem resurfaces.  I have repeated
this process several times, each time with the same results.

Any ideas as to the source of my problem?  It sounds to me like a hardware
issue.  If so, what is my best recourse for having the unit repaired or
replaced?

Thanks.
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>From: "Doug Singer" <dougpsinger@...>
>Reply-To: jomox@egroups.com
>To: jomox@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [jomox] Just got Xbase, have a question
>Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:58:59 GMT
>
>My Xbase, now 3 months old, is malfunctioning.  Approx. 15 minutes after
>powering up and running the sequencer, I hear a small 'pop' and then the
>audio drops out.  The sequencer keeps running and I can access all of it's
>various functions, but I get no sound.  If I power the unit down and then
>back up again (waiting a full 30 seconds in between) the unit performs
>normally for about 2 minutes before the problem resurfaces.  I have
>repeated
>this process several times, each time with the same results.
>
>Any ideas as to the source of my problem?  It sounds to me like a hardware
>issue.  If so, what is my best recourse for having the unit repaired or
>replaced?
>
>Thanks.

when i first got my xbase09 it was shipped to my work and i then immediately
left with it for a trip- i had no way of hearing it without headphones, and
even though it didn't have a headphone out, i must confess i plugged a pair
into the main mono out just to hear it on one side... :)

the point is, i had this same problem with the sound dropping out of it when
i did this with headphones... it would play for awhile... then "pop!" and no
sound, but everything would function... repower, sound for a few minutes and
"pop!" no sound.

i quickly stopped plugging these headphones into the output where they had
no place to be in the first palce, brought it home, cabled it up to my mixer
and everything has been fine since.

so i have to ask how you are listening to your jomox. i know that you can
clip an output if your are interfacing it with a device that is looking for
a lower or hotter voltage.

r.

i then stopped using headphones
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Looked it over and it does seem interesting, but do you know for how much,
and where i could find one?

klown

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I looked into the 10Control before I chose the Xbase over the RBase.  You
can order directly from IBK in Germany.  There's no North American
distributor, unless you're interested in the 4Control (4 knobs, not 10).
Native Instruments is reselling that one.

The price for the 10Control is $649 USD, but they will probably waive the
duty, so it should come to about $618.  The web address (if you don't
already have it) is www.ibk-midi.de.  I was corresponding with Uwe Keinki
about availability and pricing.

----Original Message Follows----
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To: jomox@egroups.com
Subject: [jomox] ibk-10
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:37:31 CST

Looked it over and it does seem interesting, but do you know for how much,
and where i could find one?

klown

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Hmm, that seems pretty steep for me right now.  I guess i'll just play with
my mc-5o5 and see how i can get the two to work ok.  Thanks for the info
though.  At that price i'd almost be better picking up an xbase and using it
to control the airbase ;)

{mr}klown

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----Original Message Follows----
From: "Doug Singer" <dougpsinger@...>
Reply-To: jomox@egroups.com
To: jomox@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [jomox] ibk-10
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:32:30 GMT

I looked into the 10Control before I chose the Xbase over the RBase.  You
can order directly from IBK in Germany.  There's no North American
distributor, unless you're interested in the 4Control (4 knobs, not 10).
Native Instruments is reselling that one.

The price for the 10Control is $649 USD, but they will probably waive the
duty, so it should come to about $618.  The web address (if you don't
already have it) is www.ibk-midi.de.  I was corresponding with Uwe Keinki
about availability and pricing.

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Ryan,

Oddly enough, I was routing through the front video/aux jacks of my TV to my
home receiver (as my mixer was unavailable at the time and front inputs are
easier to access).  While the TV inputs are standard RCA, I will try your
suggestion and plug it back into my mixer when I have a chance.  I doubt
this is the problem, though, as my mixer also accepts standard RCA (I use
the same cable in both instances, with one 1/4" plug and one RCA connection,
sometimes with an additional Y-splitter).

Thanks,
Doug

----Original Message Follows----
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To: jomox@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [jomox] Just got Xbase, have a question
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:26:38 GMT

so i have to ask how you are listening to your jomox. i know that you can
clip an output if your are interfacing it with a device that is looking for
a lower or hotter voltage.

r.
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Doug,

Did you get my earlier note to help you?  I need your:

Full Name
Address
Phone number
Serial Number
Place of Purchase
Approx date of purchase

I think I'll be able to help you...

John

> From: "Doug Singer" <dougpsinger@...>
> Reply-To: jomox@egroups.com
> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:54:24 GMT
> To: jomox@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [jomox] Just got Xbase, have a question
>
> Ryan,
>
> Oddly enough, I was routing through the front video/aux jacks of my TV to my
> home receiver (as my mixer was unavailable at the time and front inputs are
> easier to access).  While the TV inputs are standard RCA, I will try your
> suggestion and plug it back into my mixer when I have a chance.  I doubt
> this is the problem, though, as my mixer also accepts standard RCA (I use
> the same cable in both instances, with one 1/4" plug and one RCA connection,
> sometimes with an additional Y-splitter).
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Ryan McWhorter" <ryanmcwhorter@...>
> Reply-To: jomox@egroups.com
> To: jomox@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [jomox] Just got Xbase, have a question
> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:26:38 GMT
>
> so i have to ask how you are listening to your jomox. i know that you can
> clip an output if your are interfacing it with a device that is looking for
> a lower or hotter voltage.
>
> r.
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Doug Singer wrote:

> I looked into the 10Control before I chose the Xbase over the RBase.  You
> can order directly from IBK in Germany.  There's no North American
> distributor, unless you're interested in the 4Control (4 knobs, not 10).
> Native Instruments is reselling that one.
>
> The price for the 10Control is $649 USD, but they will probably waive the
> duty, so it should come to about $618.  The web address (if you don't
> already have it) is www.ibk-midi.de.  I was corresponding with Uwe Keinki
> about availability and pricing.
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "mr klown" <klown_mr@...>
> Reply-To: jomox@egroups.com
> To: jomox@egroups.com
> Subject: [jomox] ibk-10
> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:37:31 CST
>
> Looked it over and it does seem interesting, but do you know for how much,
> and where i could find one?
>
> klown
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That's why I ended up with the xBase.  All that extra $$$ for 3 toms seemed
silly.  With the Ramp page, I can sequence 3 addt'l. voices anyway.  The
10Control is an extremely versatile controller, though, and worth the cash
if you can spend it.

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To: jomox@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [jomox] ibk-10
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:48:43 CST

Hmm, that seems pretty steep for me right now.  I guess i'll just play with
my mc-5o5 and see how i can get the two to work ok.  Thanks for the info
though.  At that price i'd almost be better picking up an xbase and using it
to control the airbase ;)

{mr}klown

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----Original Message Follows----
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Reply-To: jomox@egroups.com
To: jomox@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [jomox] ibk-10
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:32:30 GMT

I looked into the 10Control before I chose the Xbase over the RBase.  You
can order directly from IBK in Germany.  There's no North American
distributor, unless you're interested in the 4Control (4 knobs, not 10).
Native Instruments is reselling that one.

The price for the 10Control is $649 USD, but they will probably waive the
duty, so it should come to about $618.  The web address (if you don't
already have it) is www.ibk-midi.de.  I was corresponding with Uwe Keinki
about availability and pricing.

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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:37 PM

Subject: [jomox] ibk-10

Looked it over and it does seem interesting, but do you know for how much,
and where i could find one?

klown

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I'd like to say, I was probably one of the happiest drum programmers when I
first got my xbase09.   There was a problem with the Hi-Hat output where it
would cut in and out and I would have to finagle with the plug to get it hot
again.  This finally got to the point where the box was unusable and on top
of that, I now get an annoying hum out of the it.  After sending the unit
BACK TO GERMANY for repair (which took about 3 months btw), I still have a
horrible hum/feedback sound coming out of the box.  It's actually WORSE than
it was when I sent it back.  Jomox owes me big fuckin' time.  I'm quickly
becomeing ANTI-FUCKIN'-JOMOX.  I'd like to also make it clear that I am in
no way putting any of this blame on John Van Nest.  He did his best to help
me get it fixed.

Fuckin pissed,

Todd Wollons
dot w productions

I did see it.  I'm at the office currently (though I don't seem to  be
getting anything done this morning).  I'll get you all the info this
evening.  Thanks!
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Todd,

A couple of quick questions...is the hum coming out of all outputs?  Is it
there at any volume level?  Have you tried plugging the unit in elsewhere to
see if it is some interference with another piece of gear?  I presume you've
flipped the plug over?  Let me know and we'll continue to make yours a
positive experience!

JVN

> From: Todd Wollons <twollons@...>
> Reply-To: jomox@egroups.com
> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:41:00 -0800
> To: jomox@egroups.com
> Subject: [jomox] I hate to be Mr. Negative, but........
>
> I'd like to say, I was probably one of the happiest drum programmers when I
> first got my xbase09.   There was a problem with the Hi-Hat output where it
> would cut in and out and I would have to finagle with the plug to get it hot
> again.  This finally got to the point where the box was unusable and on top
> of that, I now get an annoying hum out of the it.  After sending the unit
> BACK TO GERMANY for repair (which took about 3 months btw), I still have a
> horrible hum/feedback sound coming out of the box.  It's actually WORSE than
> it was when I sent it back.  Jomox owes me big fuckin' time.  I'm quickly
> becomeing ANTI-FUCKIN'-JOMOX.  I'd like to also make it clear that I am in
> no way putting any of this blame on John Van Nest.  He did his best to help
> me get it fixed.
>
> Fuckin pissed,
>
> Todd Wollons
> dot w productions
>
>
>
>
>
>

This drum machine looks like it would make a great controller and might
compliment the 5o5 and airbase sounds well to give me a complete drum
package.  I know qm is dead, so anyone know where i can scrounge one of
these up off hand?  A store with some old stock perhaps???

{mr}klown

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Any luck with that info I sent?

Thanks.
doug
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Well i got the airbase yesterday.  Can't wait to start getting deep into it.
   Anyone have any useful tricks or tips for this bad boy???  Thanks!

{mr}klown

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On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, NAPALMS-FAMILY wrote:

> ps:the latest version..is this the 2.09???thank for an answer....
>
Yes, 2.09 is the latest OS. You can purchase just the ROM from several
places, non of which I have handy at the moment. Anyhow, it's something to
look into.



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	 He was Crazy Hoarse!

			 Mii'iw. Miigwech.

Before I post it on eBay I thought I'd let people know here that I'm selling
my Xbaseo9.  I absolutely love it to death, but it's a bit more specialized
than I need right now.  I'll no doubt get another one later, but for now I'm
going to get an RM1x to have a hardware sequencer and it can still be my
drums.  Yeah the drums of the RM suck when comparing the quality to the
Xbase, but for where I am at it would be better for me... I can't afford to
have the two machines or I would... it's rather painful to see this bad boy
go.

It's got the latest 2.09 on it.  And for what it's worth I've not had any
problems out of it (excluding my own misunderstanding haha).  I still have
the warrentee card, the original box all that stuff... hell I think I even
have the rubber band that when around the cord :-)  Needless to say it's in
mint condition, it's only 3 months old, and I don't smoke or gig so it's in
the same exact shape as when I bough it.

The musicians at my work have all commented that my drum sounds are killer
in the stuff I've done thanks to this box.  The punch this thing has in
sooooo incredible.

You guys already have a Jomox drum machine no doubt, but rather than auction
it at evil-Bay where prices get out of hand I wanted to see if any of you
wanted it because you've been helpful.

Send me an Email (listed below) if you want it.

Oh and the price is $649 o.b.o. which is $100 less than any new price I've
seen.

No flames about me selling it for an RM please. :-)  I REALLY am going to
get another xbase later.  Unless they make a new x0x style machine that is
somehow better and sounds at least this good. :-)

Have Fun,
James
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Can somebody please turn off the retarded "reply-to"?

I think all of us know how to use "reply" and "reply to all"..

kintama wrote:

> Before I post it on eBay I thought I'd let people know here that I'm selling
> my Xbaseo9.  I absolutely love it to death, but it's a bit more specialized
> than I need right now.  I'll no doubt get another one later, but for now I'm
> going to get an RM1x to have a hardware sequencer and it can still be my
> drums.  Yeah the drums of the RM suck when comparing the quality to the
> Xbase, but for where I am at it would be better for me... I can't afford to
> have the two machines or I would... it's rather painful to see this bad boy
> go.
>
> It's got the latest 2.09 on it.  And for what it's worth I've not had any
> problems out of it (excluding my own misunderstanding haha).  I still have
> the warrentee card, the original box all that stuff... hell I think I even
> have the rubber band that when around the cord :-)  Needless to say it's in
> mint condition, it's only 3 months old, and I don't smoke or gig so it's in
> the same exact shape as when I bough it.
>
> The musicians at my work have all commented that my drum sounds are killer
> in the stuff I've done thanks to this box.  The punch this thing has in
> sooooo incredible.
>
> You guys already have a Jomox drum machine no doubt, but rather than auction
> it at evil-Bay where prices get out of hand I wanted to see if any of you
> wanted it because you've been helpful.
>
> Send me an Email (listed below) if you want it.
>
> Oh and the price is $649 o.b.o. which is $100 less than any new price I've
> seen.
>
> No flames about me selling it for an RM please. :-)  I REALLY am going to
> get another xbase later.  Unless they make a new x0x style machine that is
> somehow better and sounds at least this good. :-)
>
> Have Fun,
> James
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Hey!

Hmmm what do you think about trading for my RM1x?

kintama wrote:

> Before I post it on eBay I thought I'd let people know here that I'm selling
> my Xbaseo9.  I absolutely love it to death, but it's a bit more specialized
> than I need right now.  I'll no doubt get another one later, but for now I'm
> going to get an RM1x to have a hardware sequencer and it can still be my
> drums.  Yeah the drums of the RM suck when comparing the quality to the
> Xbase, but for where I am at it would be better for me... I can't afford to
> have the two machines or I would... it's rather painful to see this bad boy
> go.
>
> It's got the latest 2.09 on it.  And for what it's worth I've not had any
> problems out of it (excluding my own misunderstanding haha).  I still have
> the warrentee card, the original box all that stuff... hell I think I even
> have the rubber band that when around the cord :-)  Needless to say it's in
> mint condition, it's only 3 months old, and I don't smoke or gig so it's in
> the same exact shape as when I bough it.
>
> The musicians at my work have all commented that my drum sounds are killer
> in the stuff I've done thanks to this box.  The punch this thing has in
> sooooo incredible.
>
> You guys already have a Jomox drum machine no doubt, but rather than auction
> it at evil-Bay where prices get out of hand I wanted to see if any of you
> wanted it because you've been helpful.
>
> Send me an Email (listed below) if you want it.
>
> Oh and the price is $649 o.b.o. which is $100 less than any new price I've
> seen.
>
> No flames about me selling it for an RM please. :-)  I REALLY am going to
> get another xbase later.  Unless they make a new x0x style machine that is
> somehow better and sounds at least this good. :-)
>
> Have Fun,
> James
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>


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The following jomox poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Which Jomox units do you own/use?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- XBase 09, 10 votes, 76.92%
- Airbase 99, 3 votes, 23.08%

INDIVIDUAL VOTES
- XBase 09
      - NAPALMS-FAMILY@...
      - soc@...
      - klegov@...
      - mr_kkbb@...
      - benny@...
      - tahini7@...
      - dbivins@...
      - vgavrilo@...
      - jesse.de.paauw@...
      - mishagattengo@...
- Airbase 99
      - arosenberg@...
      - mr_kkbb@...
      - vgavrilo@...


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Thanks!

on 11/10/00 1:11 PM, Ras-Sol at Ras-Sol@... wrote:

> Ooops sorry jomox-list
>
> Can somebody please turn off the retarded "reply-to"?
>
> I think all of us know how to use "reply" and "reply to all"..

I'd like to see what others think before I do this...

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thanks!
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