Ian must be turning in his "sad and poor grave" to be described as the "creator of the genre of 'gothic' music"! The one thing that Joy Division's music is not...
Yes, there's always that tendency to catagorize everything. I'm sure there's plenty of folks who mistakenly put JD in the goth catagory. Our local so-called ...
Audiocodes,I can get real down to the gutter on this one. He was very talented and I give him that,I'm not labling him as the creator but,others do okay....and...
"The one thing that Joy Division's music is not and that is "gothic" - perish the thought."<br><br>Yeah well maybe he wasn't gothic, but i hope he wasn't as...
"The one thing that Joy Division's music is not and that is "gothic" - perish the thought."<br><br>Yeah well maybe he wasn't gothic, but i hope he wasn't as...
I don't feel JD were gothic per se - the first Gothic group were probably Bauhaus - but those two bands, and probably later on, The Sisters Of Mercy, did ...
So what exactly does "gothic music" mean, anyway? I've always thought of it as music that draws out the beauty from dark themes. Music that mixes the sublime ...
audiocodes: this will get a lot of responses - good post.<br><br>to the group:<br><br>if you like goth, and like joy division, you'll probably so the great...
"THE DOORS WERE IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM GOTHIC, HAVE YOU GOT THAT!!!!!!!"<br><br>I hear you (no need to shout), but no I haven't quite got it. Can you answer...
Lulu<br><br>On this occasion I will not join you in the said "gutter". What I will do is further add to this debate with my opinion (I assume I'm allowed to...
>categories are bad because they make us stop thinking but if there is one 'major subcategory' of music that JD fits in best it is gothic.<<br><br>I have...
"What I will do is further add to this debate with my opinion (I assume I'm allowed to have one hyperventilate?), which will be expressed without using...
Hyperventilate you also appear to misquote! What I did write was:<br><br>'Picture some American middle-class youth who dress all in black... and go around ...
sorry about that..when all you can see is some words on a page it can be difficult to pick up the real meaning<br>good is a very interesting way to describe my...
Listen,I was merly expressing my opinion love.I did not want to start a debate with you.We both love JD's music for some reason or other,right?So listen,I ...
Lulu, please don't feel that way. I for one think it's been an interesting discussion. You should never feel reluctant to share an opinion, here or anywhere ...
Thank you JJkdc - you pretty much expressed what i think, just much more eloquently<br>lulu - if the only thing that we did in this club was talk about how ...
Mmm...comments about Kylie/Blue Monday and the Brits that immediately spring to my mind are "when the f**k are New Order gonna be recognised by the BPI and ...
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