Dear Cedric,
They are the same . I could talk to the collectors but they told me that they
did not remember exactly . Any how , it is good to know that overtone singing is
practised by one population in New Guinea .
Best,
tran quang hai

TRAN QUANG HAI

12 RUE GUTENBERG

94450 LIMEIL BREVANNES- FRANCE

Tel & Fax : (33-1) 4569 5577

Email: tranquanghai2001@...

Websites: http://tranquanghai.info

Blog: http://tranquanghai.multiply.com

--- On Sun, 15/3/09, Cedric Roux <seddata@...> wrote:

From: Cedric Roux <seddata@...>
Subject: Re: [KHOOMEI] Khoomei resources
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 8:42 AM














----- "Hai tran" <tranquanghai2001@ yahoo.com> wrote:



> I have uploaded several recordings of Dani's khoomei on my blog:

> http://tranquanghai .multiply. com/music/ item/164/ DANI_TRIBE_ Overtone_
Singing_Style_ Irian_Jaya_ INDONESIA



You probably don't remember but we met once

in Paris and you gave me an audio CD with

some samples, some of them being Dani's sound.

Are these different samples? The one you gave

me were from french ethnologists or something

if I remember well (they made a CD of their trip).

By the way, are you in contact with them?

Maybe they could tell us if Dani's people sing with or

without external devices close to their mouth...



Thanks for sharing your knowledge,

take care,

Cedric.





























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----- "Hai tran" <tranquanghai2001@...> wrote:

> I have uploaded several recordings of Dani's khoomei on my blog:
>
http://tranquanghai.multiply.com/music/item/164/DANI_TRIBE_Overtone_Singing_Styl\
e_Irian_Jaya_INDONESIA

You probably don't remember but we met once
in Paris and you gave me an audio CD with
some samples, some of them being Dani's sound.
Are these different samples? The one you gave
me were from french ethnologists or something
if I remember well (they made a CD of their trip).
By the way, are you in contact with them?
Maybe they could tell us if Dani's people sing with or
without external devices close to their mouth...

Thanks for sharing your knowledge,
take care,
Cedric.

About Concert Performances...

I found out that Tyva Kyzy "Daughters of Tuva" performed at the Chicago Cultural
Center not that long ago  on US Tour.

If I was still in Chicago I would have liked to have seen this performance.
But I happen to be in Tennessee at the moment.
It would be quite rare if there would ever be a Khoomei performance here.
Or a workshop for me to learn Khoomei better and have a better understanding of
it.

Hoping,

Mark Magyar


--- On Sat, 3/14/09, grover <imnotelmo@...> wrote:
From: grover <imnotelmo@...>
Subject: [KHOOMEI] (unknown)
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 11:17 AM












             cool enrique.



its a bit far from chicago, hope you have a great show.






























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About Concert Performances...

I found out that Tyva Kyzy "Daughters of Tuva" performed at the Chicago Cultural
Center not that long ago  on US Tour.

If I was still in Chicago I would have liked to have seen this performance.
But I happen to be in Tennessee at the moment.
It would be quite rare if there would ever be a Khoomei performance here.
Or a workshop for me to learn Khoomei better and have a better understanding of
it.

Hoping,

Mark Magyar


--- On Sat, 3/14/09, grover <imnotelmo@...> wrote:
From: grover <imnotelmo@...>
Subject: [KHOOMEI] (unknown)
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 11:17 AM












             cool enrique.



its a bit far from chicago, hope you have a great show.






























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cool enrique.

its a bit far from chicago, hope you have a great show.

Hi,
I have uploaded several recordings of Dani's khoomei on my blog:
http://tranquanghai.multiply.com/music/item/164/DANI_TRIBE_Overtone_Singing_Styl\
e_Irian_Jaya_INDONESIA

But if you want to download these recordings or listen to them , you must be a
member of this server multiply.com
As soon as you are a member , you can download recordings of Dani tribe from my
blog.
If you are interested in overtones , you can go to my blog:
http://tranquanghaisworld.blogspot.com
and
http://www.overtone-network.org/profile/TRANQUANGHAI

Hope that you can enjoy .
I have posted several clips on youtube
visit my link : http://youtube.com/tranquanghai
Best,
Tran Quang Hai


--- On Fri, 27/2/09, John Pascuzzi <johnp@...> wrote:

From: John Pascuzzi <johnp@...>
Subject: Re: [KHOOMEI] Khoomei resources
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 27 February, 2009, 6:36 PM












             Alive and well at http://khoomei. com/forum



At 12:47 AM 2/27/2009, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I sometimes receive emails from people who visit my webpage

>about khoomei.

>

>I would like to know where I should redirect them to

>get in contact with regular practitioners, since I

>don't do much khoomei anymore (I sometimes struggle

>to find the New Guinea technique, Dani tribe, if

>someone has some info on that by the way, I'm almost

>sure we can do it without external devices...).

>

>Is the forum at http://khoomei. com alive?

>Should I point them to this current mailing list?

>

>Take care,

>Cédric.

>http://sed.free. fr/khoomei































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How are you my Khoomeigie brothers and sisters! My name's Soriah and I'm a
throat singer from Portland,
Oregon and third place winner in the International Khoomei Symposium in Kyzyl,
Tuva. Just a personal note to let you know about my performance at
the Steve Allen Theater in Hollywood on the 19th. I hope you will
venture out and experience a breed of shamanic ambience you might not
have experienced. Hope to see you there!
Yours in Xaos,
E(:+O<-


  www.myspace.com/soriahmusic
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Go to youtube and you will discover many clips I have posted recently with Jew's
harp and overtone singing .
http://youtube.com/tranquanghai

Best,
Tran Quang Hai

TRAN QUANG HAI

12 RUE GUTENBERG

94450 LIMEIL BREVANNES- FRANCE

Tel & Fax : (33-1) 4569 5577

Email: tranquanghai2001@...

Websites: http://tranquanghai.info

Blog: http://tranquanghai.multiply.com

--- On Thu, 26/2/09, Markus Magyar <bro_markus@...> wrote:

From: Markus Magyar <bro_markus@...>
Subject: [KHOOMEI] Re:Khoomei and Dan Moi
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 8:20 PM

Thank you for bringing this to my attention about handle side being thicker.
When first watching video I couldn¢t tell. I thought it was just one card.
Now when watching video I did happen to notice the extra piece of card by handle
area.
I added this part to the part of the Jew¢s Harp card that I made earlier and it
has improved the sound, volume and it boings easier now as well.  Sounds like
the one on the video now.. To attach extra plastic card piece I used super glue
gel.

 
Thanks once again.


Mark Spotted Deer


The French Phone Card Jew¢s Harp video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=137NFiEV5mM

and Also just to add:
Jonny Cope attempting Khoomei and playing the Jew¢s Harp at the same time
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROFwJWLQAcc
Plus 2 more videos from others
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW1pdbs5hU4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R5n2ZzFALs

and If the Jew¢s Harp plans attachment didn¢t show Please let me know.
 

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, John Schucker <gwynn@...> wrote:
From: John Schucker <gwynn@...>
Subject: Re: [KHOOMEI] Re:Slightly off topic, but I gotta know!
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:19 AM











   
            The part we couldn't figure out is that it looks like the part where
you

hold the card has extra thickness of card.  Was that just glued in place

or what?  I should pester somebody who knows French and see if a

translation helps.



joe wolfcastel wrote:

> >From this video:

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=137NFiEV5mM

>

> (Which I think you got the idea from) It looks like he took half of a plastic
card (The half without bubbled numbers) and then cut a long "V" about 3/4 the
length of the card. The V is cleared out a little bit, maybe 1-1.5 mm. To play
it, he is hitting the top of the V.

>

> If you have a few cards laying around I would like to hear if this is actually
how it's done.

> I hope this helps.

>




     

   
   

             
   
   
             
         
       
         
     
   
   
     
     
     

     
   
   








   


   
   


     

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I live in Columbus Ohio these days.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:28 PM, grover <imnotelmo@...> wrote:
>
> where do you live these days Steve.
>
> perhaps some sort of workshop or lesson can be arranged.
>
> i know Alash Ensemble is about to start their next
> US tour and they often do workshops and lessons.
>
>



--
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers"
-- Pablo Picasso

where do you live these days Steve.

perhaps some sort of workshop or lesson can be arranged.

i know Alash Ensemble is about to start their next
US tour and they often do workshops and lessons.

--- In khoomei@yahoogroups.com, "xsundeep" <xsundeep@...> wrote:
>
>
> I think this group would enjoy this...
>
> http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/27/sevenbladed-jaw-harp.html
>
> -sundeep
>

pretty cool.

though i'd like to hear it without the backing tracks and FX.

This group and the khoomei.com forum
are both active and both great resources
for folks learning various types of throatsinging.

this group tends to focus more on the
traditional Central Asian music forms,
the khoomei.com forum is a bit more all encompassing.

i don't anything about the New Guinea styles.

grover

Hello all -

I've been doing some variation of kargyraa for some years now, and
I've recently begun to hear that I haven't quite got the technique
down yet. I think the main problem for me is that I'm using my false
vocal chords for the guttural sounds. So now not only do I have to
figure out the right technique, I also have to unlearn bad habits...
any advice?

Brian, I checked out you audio workshops, and they confirmed for me
that I'm doing it wrong, but I can't see the way forward.

Is it time for another workshop for me :) ?

Steve Lefevre


--
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers"
-- Pablo Picasso

I think this group would enjoy this...

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/27/sevenbladed-jaw-harp.html

-sundeep

Alive and well at http://khoomei.com/forum


At 12:47 AM 2/27/2009, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I sometimes receive emails from people who visit my webpage
>about khoomei.
>
>I would like to know where I should redirect them to
>get in contact with regular practitioners, since I
>don't do much khoomei anymore (I sometimes struggle
>to find the New Guinea technique, Dani tribe, if
>someone has some info on that by the way, I'm almost
>sure we can do it without external devices...).
>
>Is the forum at http://khoomei.com alive?
>Should I point them to this current mailing list?
>
>Take care,
>Cédric.
>http://sed.free.fr/khoomei

Hi,

I sometimes receive emails from people who visit my webpage
about khoomei.

I would like to know where I should redirect them to
get in contact with regular practitioners, since I
don't do much khoomei anymore (I sometimes struggle
to find the New Guinea technique, Dani tribe, if
someone has some info on that by the way, I'm almost
sure we can do it without external devices...).

Is the forum at http://khoomei.com alive?
Should I point them to this current mailing list?

Take care,
Cédric.
http://sed.free.fr/khoomei

That was probably my fault.  I've been approving your posts.  We have
the group set to moderate for first-time members as a spammer
deterrent and you probably posted twice because you didn't see your
first post show up.  I've changed your group membership settings so
your posts are no longer moderated.

--- In khoomei@yahoogroups.com, Markus Magyar <bro_markus@...> wrote:
>
> Somehow what I posted was sent twice.
>
> Apologies.
>
>
> Mark Spotted Deer 

Thank you for bringing this to my attention about handle side being thicker.
When first watching video I couldn¢t tell. I thought it was just one card.
Now when watching video I did happen to notice the extra piece of card by handle
area.
I added this part to the part of the Jew¢s Harp card that I made earlier and it
has improved the sound, volume and it boings easier now as well.  Sounds like
the one on the video now..
To attach extra plastic card piece I used super glue gel.

 
Thanks once again.


Mark Spotted Deer


The French Phone Card Jew¢s Harp video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=137NFiEV5mM

and Also just to add:
Johnny Cope attempting Khoomei and playing the Jew¢s Harp at the same time
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROFwJWLQAcc
Plus 2 more videos from others
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW1pdbs5hU4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R5n2ZzFALs

and If the Jew¢s Harp plans attachment didn¢t show Please let me know.
 

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, John Schucker <gwynn@...> wrote:
From: John Schucker <gwynn@...>
Subject: Re: [KHOOMEI] Re:Slightly off topic, but I gotta know!
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:19 AM












             The part we couldn't figure out is that it looks like the part where
you

hold the card has extra thickness of card.  Was that just glued in place

or what?  I should pester somebody who knows French and see if a

translation helps.



joe wolfcastel wrote:

> >From this video:

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=137NFiEV5mM

>

> (Which I think you got the idea from) It looks like he took half of a plastic
card (The half without bubbled numbers) and then cut a long "V" about 3/4 the
length of the card. The V is cleared out a little bit, maybe 1-1.5 mm. To play
it, he is hitting the top of the V.

>

> If you have a few cards laying around I would like to hear if this is actually
how it's done.

> I hope this helps.

>



















      























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thank you for bringing this to my attention about handle side being thicker.
When first watching video I couldn¢t tell. I thought it was just one card.
Now when watching video I did happen to notice the extra piece of card by handle
area.
I added this part to the part of the Jew¢s Harp card that I made earlier and it
has improved the sound, volume and it boings easier now as well.  Sounds like
the one on the video now.. To attach extra plastic card piece I used super glue
gel.

 
Thanks once again.


Mark Spotted Deer


The French Phone Card Jew¢s Harp video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=137NFiEV5mM

and Also just to add:
Johnny Cope attempting Khoomei and playing the Jew¢s Harp at the same time
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROFwJWLQAcc
Plus 2 more videos from others
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW1pdbs5hU4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R5n2ZzFALs

and If the Jew¢s Harp plans attachment didn¢t show Please let me know.
 

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, John Schucker <gwynn@...> wrote:
From: John Schucker <gwynn@...>
Subject: Re: [KHOOMEI] Re:Slightly off topic, but I gotta know!
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:19 AM












             The part we couldn't figure out is that it looks like the part where
you

hold the card has extra thickness of card.  Was that just glued in place

or what?  I should pester somebody who knows French and see if a

translation helps.



joe wolfcastel wrote:

> >From this video:

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=137NFiEV5mM

>

> (Which I think you got the idea from) It looks like he took half of a plastic
card (The half without bubbled numbers) and then cut a long "V" about 3/4 the
length of the card. The V is cleared out a little bit, maybe 1-1.5 mm. To play
it, he is hitting the top of the V.

>

> If you have a few cards laying around I would like to hear if this is actually
how it's done.

> I hope this helps.

>



















      























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thank you for bringing this to my attention about handle side being thicker.
When first watching video I couldn¢t tell. I thought it was just one card.
Now when watching video I did happen to notice the extra piece of card by handle
area.
I added this part to the part of the Jew¢s Harp card that I made earlier and it
has improved the sound, volume and it boings easier now as well.  Sounds like
the one on the video now.. To attach extra plastic card piece I used super glue
gel.

 
Thanks once again.


Mark Spotted Deer


The French Phone Card Jew¢s Harp video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=137NFiEV5mM

and Also just to add:
Jonny Cope attempting Khoomei and playing the Jew¢s Harp at the same time
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROFwJWLQAcc
Plus 2 more videos from others
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW1pdbs5hU4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R5n2ZzFALs

and If the Jew¢s Harp plans attachment didn¢t show Please let me know.
 

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, John Schucker <gwynn@...> wrote:
From: John Schucker <gwynn@...>
Subject: Re: [KHOOMEI] Re:Slightly off topic, but I gotta know!
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:19 AM












             The part we couldn't figure out is that it looks like the part where
you

hold the card has extra thickness of card.  Was that just glued in place

or what?  I should pester somebody who knows French and see if a

translation helps.



joe wolfcastel wrote:

> >From this video:

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=137NFiEV5mM

>

> (Which I think you got the idea from) It looks like he took half of a plastic
card (The half without bubbled numbers) and then cut a long "V" about 3/4 the
length of the card. The V is cleared out a little bit, maybe 1-1.5 mm. To play
it, he is hitting the top of the V.

>

> If you have a few cards laying around I would like to hear if this is actually
how it's done.

> I hope this helps.

>



















      























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Somehow what I posted was sent twice.

Apologies.


Mark Spotted Deer 





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The part we couldn't figure out is that it looks like the part where you
hold the card has extra thickness of card.  Was that just glued in place
or what?  I should pester somebody who knows French and see if a
translation helps.

joe wolfcastel wrote:
> >From this video:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=137NFiEV5mM
>
> (Which I think you got the idea from) It looks like he took half of a plastic
card (The half without bubbled numbers) and then cut a long "V" about 3/4 the
length of the card. The V is cleared out a little bit, maybe 1-1.5 mm. To play
it, he is hitting the top of the V.
>
> If you have a few cards laying around I would like to hear if this is actually
how it's done.
> I hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

From this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=137NFiEV5mM

(Which I think you got the idea from) It looks like he took half of a plastic
card (The half without bubbled numbers) and then cut a long "V" about 3/4 the
length of the card. The V is cleared out a little bit, maybe 1-1.5 mm. To play
it, he is hitting the top of the V.

If you have a few cards laying around I would like to hear if this is actually
how it's done.
I hope this helps.





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47906, Lafayette IN


--- In khoomei@yahoogroups.com, jdrunge@... wrote:
>
> Where would this be shipping from?
>

you can also play almost anything
in the manner of a jew's harp.

a section of a paper or styro cup
can be held in such a way as to
resonate enough to get some decent
staccato tones from it.

so experiment around.

if i remember my Danmoi correctly.

the 'tip' end is about 1/3 of the
way in and the 'base' starts in
about 1/4 of the way on the other
side. you hold the remaining 1/3
beyond the tip and pluck on the
base end. the 'tongue' takes up
about 1/2 the width (a 1/4 of the
way in from each edge). there should
only be enough space at the cut for
the tongue to move freely, to large
a gap will adversely affect the tone.

have fun.

grover

Hi Brian,
It's a long time I didn't hear from you . In France , every year there is a
festival combining didge, khoomei and jew's harp which takes place in mid July.
I was the guest of this festival some years ago .
In April, I 'll go to Canada (Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa) for 2 weeks to give
lectures at the universities and concerts (on Vietnamese music this time).
You can visit my link on youtube.com/tranquanghai
I have a blog focused on overtones
http://tranquanghaisworld.blogspot.com
a blog on Jew's harps
http://haidanmoi.multiply.com

Yours lessons on khoomei are always the reference for anyone who wants to
acquire overtone techniques .
Best,
Tran Quang Hai

TRAN QUANG HAI

12 RUE GUTENBERG

94450 LIMEIL BREVANNES- FRANCE

Tel & Fax : (33-1) 4569 5577

Email: tranquanghai2001@...

Websites: http://tranquanghai.info

Blog: http://tranquanghai.multiply.com

-

Where would this be shipping from?

Quoting xsundeep <xsundeep@...>:

> So...
>
> I have a Seth Augustus igil, signed by him, potentially available for
> sale.
>
> Oh, I forgot to mention, it is signed by Huun Huur Tu. They seemed to
> think it was a very nice instrument, or so I gathered when they
> stopped eating their dinner to each play it.
>
> I have a nice semi-rigid banjo case and two bows, one viola and one
> erhu. Good rosin too. They're all included.
>
> I'm not *really* willing to part with it at all, but might for the
> right price and guarantee of a good home.
>
> I'm thinking $450, + actual shipping.
>
> Pics available.

So...

I have a Seth Augustus igil, signed by him, potentially available for
sale.

Oh, I forgot to mention, it is signed by Huun Huur Tu. They seemed to
think it was a very nice instrument, or so I gathered when they
stopped eating their dinner to each play it.

I have a nice semi-rigid banjo case and two bows, one viola and one
erhu. Good rosin too. They're all included.

I'm not *really* willing to part with it at all, but might for the
right price and guarantee of a good home.

I'm thinking $450, + actual shipping.

Pics available.

-Sundeep

Much Appreciated.
I really now have a much better understanding of how Sygyt is achieved.
Even though I really do like the sound of Sygyt a whole lot and would like to
add it to the music that I do, I¢ll try not to become too impatient while trying
to learn it and stick with practicing on getting a really strong Khoomei voice
for right now.
Thank you very much for the information though.
Very Helpful.

Give Thanks,
Mark Spotted Deer  


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, John Schucker <gwynn@...> wrote:
From: John Schucker <gwynn@...>
Subject: Re: [KHOOMEI] Re: Thanks Imnotelmo and also Tran Quang Hai
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 2:24 AM












             IIRC, you don't really cup your tongue for sygyt.  Take the tip of
your

tongue and put it up against the roof of your mouth, just behind your

teeth.  You can do this other ways but just try this for now.  OK, now

sort of push so that your tongue flattens out along the roof of your

mouth, so your tongue will sort of slant up to where it hits the roof of

your mouth.  Then it will be flat from one side of your mouth to the

other.  Try to breathe, notice you can't because, well, your tongue's

blocking the air from coming out of your mouth.  Now here's the tricky

part.  Unflatten your tongue slightly so that you have a small hole.

This can be in the center, which is easiest, but preferrably you want to

get it on one side or the other, by your teeth along the side of the

roof of your mouth.  Now if you breathe in and out of your mouth you'll

make a whacky hissing noise, yay!  Once you have said whacky hissing

noise, ry sygyt.



It's still hard, yeah.  Sygyt is tricky.  And this doesn't even get into

anything about how to make the sound better.  Good luck because I'm

working on that myself, heh!  Once you get this down you can experiment

with things that come right out of a phonology lecture, like a

retroflexed tongue, doesn't that sound fun?  Tuvans don't do that one

much IIRC, but it's fairly popular in Mongolia, from what I'm led to

understand.



Hope that helps.  Let the corrections begin! :)




























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I received more of an interest in that of Jew's Harp after hearing Sean P. Quirk
and others of Alash Ensemble play them.
The "Phone Card" Jew's Harp is designed after the Vietnamese Dan Moi Jew's Harp.
I don't happen to have a Dan Moi as of yet, So the Jew's Harp I made was just
from me eyeballing the videos trying to get the measurements right. When making
Jew's Harp any plastic card will do. Phone Card, Credit Card, Gift Card, etc. As
long as the card flexes well and snaps back to its original shape it should be
fine. The measurements for the first Jew's Harp I made is 3/4 wide and 3 3/8 in
length. The normal length for US card. As far as the V cut for the middle of the
card, I'm still trying to figure out the measurements for that. The card Jew's
Harp I made still has an okay boing to it though.
If Tran Quang Hai could
  give us the measurements of his card Jew's Harp it would be most appreciated...

Mark Spotted Deer       

--- On Tue, 2/24/09, John Schucker <gwynn@...> wrote:
From: John Schucker <gwynn@...>
Subject: [KHOOMEI] Slightly off topic, but I gotta know!
To: khoomei@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 8:14 PM












             So how *do* you make a phone card jew's harp?  Does it have to be a

phone card, can you use an old credit card or such?  I got my fiance,

who can actually see, to look at the video and I get the idea, kind of,

but if anybody happens to have a set of instructions laying around they

can share, I'd really appreciate it.  I'm terrible at figuring these

things out myself, heh.  But I really want to make one.





























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