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Re: General comments about my NEW(old) Z1

Gabriel,

I am using the MOTU MIDI Express with the USB interface. I attempted
again to load patches to my JD-800 this weekend and was unable to
through the MOTU unit, but again had no problem loading these
through my MIDI cables that plug into the game port on the back of
my PC. I needed to plug both the MIDI In and MIDI Out cables into
the JD-800 in order to swap patches. I'll try this soon with my Z1
and see how this goes.

As for the Z1, I did spend some time digging into the parameters
while modifying a number of existing patches and again liked the end
results. While the EP patches are what I primarily purchased the Z1
for, I'm finding a number of uses for the other patches and arps.

Best ~ sf_user






--- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel G. de la Torre B."
<psigabriel71@y...> wrote:
>
> the motu midi interface you are using is paralell or usb ? how it
> goes?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gabriel
>
> --- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "sf_user" <SF_USER@m...> wrote:
> >
> > Joel,
> >
> > I agree with you that the Z1 is a fantastic synth and, I too,
have
> > found programming it a bit easier than I had thought I would. I
> have
> > a similar set up where I am running my Z1 and other syths though
a
> > MOTU Micro Express into a PC. I'm also using a free Z1 editor
(I'm
> > not in front of it at the moment) as well as other editing
> programs
> > for my other synths. I also see that the Z1 editor is receiving
a
> > MIDI signal and looks like it should operate correctly. When
using
> > Sonar, I can record and play back MIDI data, so I know my
comptuer
> > and synth are communicating correctly.
> >
> > The issue that you are experiencing between the PC and the Z1 I
> see
> > as well. Some of my older synths (Kawai K5 in particular)
require
> > both the MIDI IN and OUT cables to be connected to my PC
through
> > the Micro Express so a 'handshaking' session can be established.
> Th
> > IN/OUT type Midi connection does not need to be established with
> my
> > newer equipment (Roland JV-90/XP-80), and I am going to guess is
> the
> > same with the Z1.
> >
> > What I've read on the web (and I think Keyboard Magazine),
> however,
> > is that there can be a timing issue when connecting some synths
to
> a
> > computer. I'm still not completely clear on this, but it appears
> > that the data from the computer is moving too quickly and, to
> > correct this, the user needs to include a timing delay in the
MIDI
> > signal (from the PC to the synth). When I connect an older
serial
> > MIDI connector to my comptuer and then plug the In/Out ports to
my
> > various machines, I do not expreince this problem.. When I use
> this
> > older connector, I can easily upload and move patches between my
> > computer and synth. I believe in the MOTU Micro Express manual
> there
> > is a section that describes the time adjustments (time delay)
when
> > sending patch information. The need then to 'slow up' the MIDI
> data
> > may be the issue. While I have not yet found a solution, I've
> tried
> > multiple times to correct this and have not had any luck. In the
> > end, it is easier for me to simply connect my serial MIDI cable
> > connector, transfer my patches and move on. Since you've brought
> > this up, I am going to try again in the next couple of days to
try
> > and correct this issue by adjusting the MIDI delay timing and
see
> if
> > I'm able to transfer data.
> >
> > As for programing the synth, I've been very happy with the types
> of
> > sounds/patches I am able to create. I primarily use the Z1 in
> > conjunction with my JD-800 and have found both to work nicely
> > together. I'm not as familar with soft synths (the only one I
use
> is
> > NI's B4 organ) and like the organ tones the B4 produces. The
rest
> > are a bit over my head, so I'm sticking with the hardware synths
> for
> > now.
> >
> > If I find a work around or read about one, I'll be sure to email
> you
> > back.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > sf_user
> >
> > sf_user@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "joel_cameron33"
> > <joel_cameron33@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well a few things I've noticed in particular.
> > > There is one key that sounds like loud plastic on plastic
every
> > time
> > > it is struck. The sound comes throug the output normally
though
> > so I
> > > am not too worried. Maybe the padding came loose under the
key??
> > >
> > > From what I saw in the manual, you cannot control every
> parameter
> > on
> > > the Z1 with MIDI CC#'s. Only the ones that have designated
> > controls
> > > already. Is this true? It would have been nice to hook my
MIDI
> > > knob-box up to the Z1 and have it controlling all of the
> parameters
> > > that do not have controls. Did I miss something or is this
true?
> > >
> > > I can't figure out what all of the rumours about this being a
> hard
> > > synth to program were all about. I find programming this beast
> > > similar to cutting through butter.
> > >
> > > I am not so hot on assigning the knobs though but I am sure I
> will
> > get
> > > used to it once I really dig in to the manual and have some
time
> > for
> > > it all to fully settle in.
> > >
> > > I can't believe I ever lived without this synth!
> > > Best purchase ever except maybe my V-synth. But at a fraction
> of
> > the
> > > cost of the V-synth, I'm thinking the value for $$ is #1.
> > >
> >
>








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Well a few things I've noticed in particular. There is one key that sounds like loud plastic on plastic every time it is struck. The sound comes throug the...
joel_cameron33
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Dec 24, 2005
7:45 pm

Joel, Agree with you 100% about the power of this beast. I have the 18-voice version (Z1 with a 6-voice MOSS expansion card), it cost me $600 a couple years...
Glen Stegner
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Dec 27, 2005
6:38 pm

Joel, I agree with you that the Z1 is a fantastic synth and, I too, have found programming it a bit easier than I had thought I would. I have a similar set up...
sf_user
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Dec 29, 2005
6:56 pm

the motu midi interface you are using is paralell or usb ? how it goes? Thanks Gabriel ... have ... programs ... see ... Th ... my ... the ... however, ... a ...
Gabriel G. de la Torr...
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Jan 4, 2006
12:49 pm

Gabriel, I am using the MOTU MIDI Express with the USB interface. I attempted again to load patches to my JD-800 this weekend and was unable to through the...
sf_user
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Jan 5, 2006
5:46 am

Hey SF It is officially an issue with the MOTU. I found a message in the archives here where someone else mentioned that they were having all sorts of sysex...
joel_cameron33
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Jan 5, 2006
9:56 am

Joel, Thanks for the details on the MOTU. For the most part, my Micro Express USB has worked flawlessly as a MIDI interface. However, not having the ability to...
sf_user
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Jan 5, 2006
10:16 pm

Try the ZED program. It is by a defunct company called nooloop. at lfo4.com , you can download the program and they have serial numbers up with a tongue in...
joel_cameron33
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Jan 6, 2006
9:14 am

No apologies needed, Joel. I will resist the temptation to list all the differences between the 2004 Z1 Editor and the 1999 Nooloop Zed program. All I will say...
Ian Clark
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Jan 6, 2006
11:15 pm

Hey Ian, Don't resist, I am very curious... It would be a great help if you could shed some light on the subject. And who else would be better to do so???...
joel_cameron33
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Jan 7, 2006
7:29 am

Good of you to say so, Joel. Some of the experienced group members, such as Pete, Greg, Marco or Nathan, might be better placed. I am a bit too close to one...
Ian Clark
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Jan 7, 2006
9:26 pm

... i also had some issues with the MOTU especially with regards to sysex. when i did a software update to my Johson J-station it just froze halfway through...
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