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Reply | Forward Message #1092 of 1981 |
computer editors for Z1

Try the ZED program. It is by a defunct company called nooloop.
at lfo4.com , you can download the program and they have serial
numbers up with a tongue in cheak "i wonder what these codes do?"
message. I find the layout much nicer and easier on the eyes than
that of the 2004 program (my apologies to Ian who regularly posts
here). Also apologies in advance for possibly cuttin' in on your
sales. I have, however, only had the Z1 for a little over a week now
and have not fully explored both programs. I think the arpeg section
of the program looks more advanced on the 2004 program. If anyone
could shed some light on the differences/advantages between the ZED
and IAX programs, that would be a big help.


--- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "sf_user" <SF_USER@m...> wrote:
>
> Joel,
>
> Thanks for the details on the MOTU. For the most part, my Micro
> Express USB has worked flawlessly as a MIDI interface. However, not
> having the ability to move patch data from my comptuer, through the
> MOTU and into my synths is frustrating for sure. Another work around
> that I thought of when you mentioned using your Keystation is that
> I've moved sysex data from my comptuer into a sequencer track of my
> Roland XP-80 and then transfered the data into the various synths.
> This method is certainly not idea, but it does work. I was planning
> on looking to add another larger MOTU interface so I do not daisy
> chain as many untis together. I've seen the MOTU MIDI devices (USB)
> for quite a bit less on sites like Ebay. I think as more musicians
> move to virtual instruments, the need for MIDI has dwindled. Either
> way, I may hold off purchasing another MOTU unit until I can find a
> fix for the current MOTU patch management problem.
>
> Getting back to the Z1, for sound/patch creation management I looked
> today at both the Korg Z1 Editor 2004 from IAX Software as well as
> MIDI Quest XL from Sound Quest. Both products look good, but I'm
> leaning towards MIDI Quest XL as it provides a Universal
> Editor/Libraian rather than the single instrument E/L. For many of
> the Sound Quest instruments, they contian extra patches, but this is
> not the case for the Z1. Tweaking the controllers on the Z1 itself
> has worked well, but I do like seeing the various parameters grouped
> togeter on a computer screen. I have an editor program for my
> Wavestation SR which helps.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "joel_cameron33"
> <joel_cameron33@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hey SF
> >
> > It is officially an issue with the MOTU.
> > I found a message in the archives here where someone else mentioned
> > that they were having all sorts of sysex troubles with their micro
> > express and when they switched to another device, everything worked
> > fine. I used the MIDI I/O on my keystation pro-88 and the problems
> > disappeared. Still no luck with those .mid files yet. I tried
> > playing them with both devices in Cubase and Sonar and various
> other
> > programs as well. It appears to be working but then freezes
> partway
> > through and crashes the Z1.
> >
> > --- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "sf_user" <SF_USER@m...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gabriel,
> > >
> > > I am using the MOTU MIDI Express with the USB interface. I
> attempted
> > > again to load patches to my JD-800 this weekend and was unable
> to
> > > through the MOTU unit, but again had no problem loading these
> > > through my MIDI cables that plug into the game port on the back
> of
> > > my PC. I needed to plug both the MIDI In and MIDI Out cables
> into
> > > the JD-800 in order to swap patches. I'll try this soon with my
> Z1
> > > and see how this goes.
> > >
> > > As for the Z1, I did spend some time digging into the parameters
> > > while modifying a number of existing patches and again liked the
> end
> > > results. While the EP patches are what I primarily purchased the
> Z1
> > > for, I'm finding a number of uses for the other patches and
> arps.
> > >
> > > Best ~ sf_user
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriel G. de la Torre B."
> > > <psigabriel71@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > the motu midi interface you are using is paralell or usb ? how
> it
> > > > goes?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Gabriel
> > > >
> > > > --- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "sf_user" <SF_USER@m...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Joel,
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with you that the Z1 is a fantastic synth and, I
> too,
> > > have
> > > > > found programming it a bit easier than I had thought I
> would. I
> > > > have
> > > > > a similar set up where I am running my Z1 and other syths
> though
> > > a
> > > > > MOTU Micro Express into a PC. I'm also using a free Z1
> editor
> > > (I'm
> > > > > not in front of it at the moment) as well as other editing
> > > > programs
> > > > > for my other synths. I also see that the Z1 editor is
> receiving
> > > a
> > > > > MIDI signal and looks like it should operate correctly. When
> > > using
> > > > > Sonar, I can record and play back MIDI data, so I know my
> > > comptuer
> > > > > and synth are communicating correctly.
> > > > >
> > > > > The issue that you are experiencing between the PC and the
> Z1 I
> > > > see
> > > > > as well. Some of my older synths (Kawai K5 in particular)
> > > require
> > > > > both the MIDI IN and OUT cables to be connected to my PC
> > > through
> > > > > the Micro Express so a 'handshaking' session can be
> established.
> > > > Th
> > > > > IN/OUT type Midi connection does not need to be established
> with
> > > > my
> > > > > newer equipment (Roland JV-90/XP-80), and I am going to
> guess is
> > > > the
> > > > > same with the Z1.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I've read on the web (and I think Keyboard Magazine),
> > > > however,
> > > > > is that there can be a timing issue when connecting some
> synths
> > > to
> > > > a
> > > > > computer. I'm still not completely clear on this, but it
> appears
> > > > > that the data from the computer is moving too quickly and,
> to
> > > > > correct this, the user needs to include a timing delay in
> the
> > > MIDI
> > > > > signal (from the PC to the synth). When I connect an older
> > > serial
> > > > > MIDI connector to my comptuer and then plug the In/Out ports
> to
> > > my
> > > > > various machines, I do not expreince this problem.. When I
> use
> > > > this
> > > > > older connector, I can easily upload and move patches
> between my
> > > > > computer and synth. I believe in the MOTU Micro Express
> manual
> > > > there
> > > > > is a section that describes the time adjustments (time
> delay)
> > > when
> > > > > sending patch information. The need then to 'slow up' the
> MIDI
> > > > data
> > > > > may be the issue. While I have not yet found a solution,
> I've
> > > > tried
> > > > > multiple times to correct this and have not had any luck. In
> the
> > > > > end, it is easier for me to simply connect my serial MIDI
> cable
> > > > > connector, transfer my patches and move on. Since you've
> brought
> > > > > this up, I am going to try again in the next couple of days
> to
> > > try
> > > > > and correct this issue by adjusting the MIDI delay timing
> and
> > > see
> > > > if
> > > > > I'm able to transfer data.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for programing the synth, I've been very happy with the
> types
> > > > of
> > > > > sounds/patches I am able to create. I primarily use the Z1
> in
> > > > > conjunction with my JD-800 and have found both to work
> nicely
> > > > > together. I'm not as familar with soft synths (the only one
> I
> > > use
> > > > is
> > > > > NI's B4 organ) and like the organ tones the B4 produces. The
> > > rest
> > > > > are a bit over my head, so I'm sticking with the hardware
> synths
> > > > for
> > > > > now.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I find a work around or read about one, I'll be sure to
> email
> > > > you
> > > > > back.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > sf_user
> > > > >
> > > > > sf_user@m...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In korgz1@yahoogroups.com, "joel_cameron33"
> > > > > <joel_cameron33@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well a few things I've noticed in particular.
> > > > > > There is one key that sounds like loud plastic on plastic
> > > every
> > > > > time
> > > > > > it is struck. The sound comes throug the output normally
> > > though
> > > > > so I
> > > > > > am not too worried. Maybe the padding came loose under
> the
> > > key??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From what I saw in the manual, you cannot control every
> > > > parameter
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the Z1 with MIDI CC#'s. Only the ones that have
> designated
> > > > > controls
> > > > > > already. Is this true? It would have been nice to hook
> my
> > > MIDI
> > > > > > knob-box up to the Z1 and have it controlling all of the
> > > > parameters
> > > > > > that do not have controls. Did I miss something or is
> this
> > > true?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't figure out what all of the rumours about this
> being a
> > > > hard
> > > > > > synth to program were all about. I find programming this
> beast
> > > > > > similar to cutting through butter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not so hot on assigning the knobs though but I am
> sure I
> > > > will
> > > > > get
> > > > > > used to it once I really dig in to the manual and have
> some
> > > time
> > > > > for
> > > > > > it all to fully settle in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't believe I ever lived without this synth!
> > > > > > Best purchase ever except maybe my V-synth. But at a
> fraction
> > > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > cost of the V-synth, I'm thinking the value for $$ is #1.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>







Fri Jan 6, 2006 9:13 am

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Well a few things I've noticed in particular. There is one key that sounds like loud plastic on plastic every time it is struck. The sound comes throug the...
joel_cameron33
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Dec 24, 2005
7:45 pm

Joel, Agree with you 100% about the power of this beast. I have the 18-voice version (Z1 with a 6-voice MOSS expansion card), it cost me $600 a couple years...
Glen Stegner
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Dec 27, 2005
6:38 pm

Joel, I agree with you that the Z1 is a fantastic synth and, I too, have found programming it a bit easier than I had thought I would. I have a similar set up...
sf_user
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Dec 29, 2005
6:56 pm

the motu midi interface you are using is paralell or usb ? how it goes? Thanks Gabriel ... have ... programs ... see ... Th ... my ... the ... however, ... a ...
Gabriel G. de la Torr...
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Jan 4, 2006
12:49 pm

Gabriel, I am using the MOTU MIDI Express with the USB interface. I attempted again to load patches to my JD-800 this weekend and was unable to through the...
sf_user
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Jan 5, 2006
5:46 am

Hey SF It is officially an issue with the MOTU. I found a message in the archives here where someone else mentioned that they were having all sorts of sysex...
joel_cameron33
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Jan 5, 2006
9:56 am

Joel, Thanks for the details on the MOTU. For the most part, my Micro Express USB has worked flawlessly as a MIDI interface. However, not having the ability to...
sf_user
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Jan 5, 2006
10:16 pm

Try the ZED program. It is by a defunct company called nooloop. at lfo4.com , you can download the program and they have serial numbers up with a tongue in...
joel_cameron33
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Jan 6, 2006
9:14 am

No apologies needed, Joel. I will resist the temptation to list all the differences between the 2004 Z1 Editor and the 1999 Nooloop Zed program. All I will say...
Ian Clark
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Jan 6, 2006
11:15 pm

Hey Ian, Don't resist, I am very curious... It would be a great help if you could shed some light on the subject. And who else would be better to do so???...
joel_cameron33
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Jan 7, 2006
7:29 am

Good of you to say so, Joel. Some of the experienced group members, such as Pete, Greg, Marco or Nathan, might be better placed. I am a bit too close to one...
Ian Clark
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Jan 7, 2006
9:26 pm

... i also had some issues with the MOTU especially with regards to sysex. when i did a software update to my Johson J-station it just froze halfway through...
eugenecanady
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Feb 4, 2006
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