David and Nolan, You are both "pit-bulls" of research. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'd have to agree with David on his being dumbfounded at the lack of...
... "attack points" while Western art music definitions usually only talk about duration. Hi Nolan, Yes, that's the gist of my point. I'm speaking about the...
... concerned with "attack points" while Western art music definitions usually only talk about duration." Allow me to amend this - Western art music...
Strictly speaking,clave is derived from the phrase shave/hair/cut, two/bits, note the syllable count. I am not sure of the date, but it goes way back, in Spain...
If you take a look at the (sometimes hard to find) work of Olavo Alen Rodriguez on tumba francesa, you will see a strong focus on the study of micro-timing...
... Rodriguez on tumba francesa, you will see a strong focus on the study of micro-timing (i.e., time elapsed between sounds or "attacks"). This is in his book...
When I would program music on my midi set up with a sequencer you could divide the "clock" in the quantize mode. you could divide a beat into 256 or maybe it...
I was woundering if there are any timbale players on the list that use cymbals, if so what are you happy with. I put together a drum set using bass, snare and ...
Nolan, ... Rodriguez on tumba francesa, you will see a strong focus on the study of micro-timing (i.e., time elapsed between sounds or "attacks"). This is in...
... I selected the same version as the closest to the correct "feel" of the part. That version was at the same quantized setting as the hip-hoppers use. -David...
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Hi Ray, I talked with Kevin, who said that different programs divided up musical time in different ways. He uses Vision, which is primarily for midi...
... is exactly in-between the triple and duple "ah" offbeats, so 59-60% is an offset that is slightly closer to the triplet than the duplet. " Sorry. I meant...
Thanks Dave, I neglected to fully explain that. If you evenly divide the time between each main beat, you generate the 4/4 "and", or what's erroneously known...
David: Sorry. I meant to say that 58% is exactly in-between the duple "and" and the triple and "ah" offbeats. Anybody with me here? -David Ray: Yes, I am with...
Ray, A lot of what you might call "fixed" patterns are actually within the grid of double-time triplets (six subdivisions per beat), or they are almost within...
... the grid of ... almost within the ... Brazilian and ... Ray: True, the off beat of 6 is a way to "stretch" many patterns in 4. One of the most common: x |...
... most common: x | - X X - | becomes - X | - X - X - - | << me: Yes, that's what I'm talking about ... into | X X X | but could keep a hint of the 4 pattern...
... morph ... out toward ... Ray: In this case, it is not double time, probably more like your example of not having perfect triplets. You showed a ratio that...
... measured the peaks to try and understand this.<< ... before I say "what's the point?"<< me: (I suspect that we may have cleared the room Ray). Have you...
I'm still with you. I haven't done actual computer analysis of "feel" before, but I know exactly what you're talking about. The comparison of the hip-hop and...
... pitches ... lineage/tradition. ... like that ... analyze ... well ... Western music deals with a tempered scale and modulation so it's notation does a good...
David: (I suspect that we may have cleared the room Ray). Have you experimented with trying to replicate some of these displaced pulses through midi ...
Hello David & Ray, I've been following this thread for awhile now. I'm a little confused as to why you would want to move a note with the quantize function or...
I for one would like to hear your files Ray...Max ... From: "Ray Sussman" <rays@...> To: <latinperc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:59...
Hi Max, I may be using the term "quantize" incorrectly here. I think Ray would be the man to answer your question. I only took part in a "blindfold test",...
... Western music for the most part says it has to be in 3 or in 4 or whatever. I am sensing that rumba and other Caribbean music say it can be in between ...
How are you David. First of all let me say you did a great job on Conor's book. Outstanding! Ok Ray just got back to me. Said he liked my track. You should...
Hi Max, Thanks for your kind words. It was Conor's work of genius. I liked your track. It didn't sound stiff over overly quantized. Along similar lines, ...