I am surprised more are not commenting and using play.it, which is also owned by

CBS.  After really working with it, I find it rather similar to Launchcast, and

in fact offers a greater deal of control than the LC algorithm did.   Thus I do

not understand why this was not promoted or modified as a replacement for the

Launchcast stations.



Here is how it works:  You have a target where you can place items closer to if

you want them to play more.  This would be analagous to the old LC rating

system.  Now there is only space for maybe 36 items on the screen.  But you can

use folders to arrange the music more.  And folders within folders.   You can

also choose equal weight and the setting for music discovery.



Here is what I have done:  I have taken a list of classic rock tracks and

created a folder (or sometimes two) for each year.   Choosing equal weight and

adventurousness to 'the hits'.  I was able to find nearly every track I was

looking for in their catalog (sometimes you have to pick from obscure

compilations but they are there).   If you choose enough different artists and

tracks, you get a station that plays nearly all music you selected.  58

different artists and 187 different tracks added so far from 1964-1971.   You

couldn't do that with Launchcast.  (Well you could several years ago before they

changed  the algorithm).   I think there is potential to modify this product to

replace the old Launchcast.



my station:

http://play.it/stations/Classic+Rock+JWD

Hi,Jerry!

 

Rev. Bear here.

 

Don't the ads on play.it drive you nuts?

 

I'm back to listening to my newly created David Arkenstone Radio on last.fm.

 

Can't deal with loud,obnoxious ads like they have on play.it and

GotRadio . . .

 

http://www.gotradio.com/

 

Listen to ambient/new age radio nearly 24/7 while i'm at home.

 

I'm retired/disabled.

 

::HUGS::

 

Rev. Bear

SUGAR DANCE

http://sugardance.bearybipolar.com/





--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Jerry <jderr@...> wrote:





From: Jerry <jderr@...>

Subject: [LAUNCHcast] play.it

To: launchcast@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:29 AM





I am surprised more are not commenting and using play.it, which is also owned by

CBS.  After really working with it, I find it rather similar to Launchcast, and

in fact offers a greater deal of control than the LC algorithm did.   Thus I do

not understand why this was not promoted or modified as a replacement for the

Launchcast stations.



Here is how it works:  You have a target where you can place items closer to if

you want them to play more.  This would be analagous to the old LC rating

system.  Now there is only space for maybe 36 items on the screen.  But you can

use folders to arrange the music more.  And folders within folders.   You can

also choose equal weight and the setting for music discovery.



Here is what I have done:  I have taken a list of classic rock tracks and

created a folder (or sometimes two) for each year.   Choosing equal weight and

adventurousness to 'the hits'.  I was able to find nearly every track I was

looking for in their catalog (sometimes you have to pick from obscure

compilations but they are there).   If you choose enough different artists and

tracks, you get a station that plays nearly all music you selected.  58

different artists and 187 different tracks added so far from 1964-1971.   You

couldn't do that with Launchcast.  (Well you could several years ago before they

changed  the algorithm).   I think there is potential to modify this product to

replace the old Launchcast. 



my station:

http://play.it/stations/Classic+Rock+JWD













[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Rev. Bear:

No the ads really don't drive me nuts.  I think if there were more real ads it

would bother me more as most just seem to be promos for other CBS stations.  I

actually like the feature-ettes.  I do not understand why CBS does not promote

this more, or promote this as a viable alternative for former Launchcast

subscribers, instead of forcing canned stations down our throats over which we

have no control over the content whatsoever.



Does anyone from Yahoo even read this group anymore?  Or was a new one started

to discuss the new Yahoo radio??



For the kind of music you listen to; play.it might not be a good choice.  I like

that I am able to control exactly what I will hear and what I will not.  I

always wished Launchcast would have given us that capability within their

ratings scheme.



Never tried gotradio.com but since it costs for the customization features

probably will not.



--- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, "Rev. Bear" <byanymeasure@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,Jerry!

>  

> Rev. Bear here.

>  

> Don't the ads on play.it drive you nuts?

>  

> I'm back to listening to my newly created David Arkenstone Radio on last.fm.

>  

> Can't deal with loud,obnoxious ads like they have on play.it and

> GotRadio . . .

>  

> http://www.gotradio.com/

>  

> Listen to ambient/new age radio nearly 24/7 while i'm at home.

>  

> I'm retired/disabled.

>  

> ::HUGS::

>  

> Rev. Bear

> SUGAR DANCE

> http://sugardance.bearybipolar.com/

>

>

> --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Jerry <jderr@...> wrote:

>

>

> From: Jerry <jderr@...>

> Subject: [LAUNCHcast] play.it

> To: launchcast@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:29 AM

>

>

> I am surprised more are not commenting and using play.it, which is also owned

by CBS.  After really working with it, I find it rather similar to Launchcast,

and in fact offers a greater deal of control than the LC algorithm did.   Thus I

do not understand why this was not promoted or modified as a replacement for the

Launchcast stations.

>

> Here is how it works:  You have a target where you can place items closer to

if you want them to play more.  This would be analagous to the old LC rating

system.  Now there is only space for maybe 36 items on the screen.  But you can

use folders to arrange the music more.  And folders within folders.   You can

also choose equal weight and the setting for music discovery.

>

> Here is what I have done:  I have taken a list of classic rock tracks and

created a folder (or sometimes two) for each year.   Choosing equal weight and

adventurousness to 'the hits'.  I was able to find nearly every track I was

looking for in their catalog (sometimes you have to pick from obscure

compilations but they are there).   If you choose enough different artists and

tracks, you get a station that plays nearly all music you selected.  58

different artists and 187 different tracks added so far from 1964-1971.   You

couldn't do that with Launchcast.  (Well you could several years ago before they

changed  the algorithm).   I think there is potential to modify this product to

replace the old Launchcast. 

>

> my station:

> http://play.it/stations/Classic+Rock+JWD

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

I still read this board every week or two. Unfortunately my comments get modded

out more often than not, and so I find it hard to contribute to the

conversation.



But I check in to see if anyone's found anything new worth trying. I'm using

Pandora now, but getting extremely tired of the repetition. I've got hundreds of

seeds and thumbed-up songs, but I hear certain songs 2 or 3 times a day and it's

driving me nuts.



--- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry" <jderr@...> wrote:

>

> Rev. Bear:

> No the ads really don't drive me nuts.  I think if there were more real ads it

would bother me more as most just seem to be promos for other CBS stations.  I

actually like the feature-ettes.  I do not understand why CBS does not promote

this more, or promote this as a viable alternative for former Launchcast

subscribers, instead of forcing canned stations down our throats over which we

have no control over the content whatsoever.

>

> Does anyone from Yahoo even read this group anymore?  Or was a new one started

to discuss the new Yahoo radio??

>

> For the kind of music you listen to; play.it might not be a good choice.  I

like that I am able to control exactly what I will hear and what I will not.  I

always wished Launchcast would have given us that capability within their

ratings scheme.

>

> Never tried gotradio.com but since it costs for the customization features

probably will not.

>

> --- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, "Rev. Bear" <byanymeasure@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,Jerry!

> >  

> > Rev. Bear here.

> >  

> > Don't the ads on play.it drive you nuts?

> >  

> > I'm back to listening to my newly created David Arkenstone Radio on last.fm.

> >  

> > Can't deal with loud,obnoxious ads like they have on play.it and

> > GotRadio . . .

> >  

> > http://www.gotradio.com/

> >  

> > Listen to ambient/new age radio nearly 24/7 while i'm at home.

> >  

> > I'm retired/disabled.

> >  

> > ::HUGS::

> >  

> > Rev. Bear

> > SUGAR DANCE

> > http://sugardance.bearybipolar.com/

> >

> >

> > --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Jerry <jderr@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > From: Jerry <jderr@>

> > Subject: [LAUNCHcast] play.it

> > To: launchcast@yahoogroups.com

> > Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:29 AM

> >

> >

> > I am surprised more are not commenting and using play.it, which is also

owned by CBS.  After really working with it, I find it rather similar to

Launchcast, and in fact offers a greater deal of control than the LC algorithm

did.   Thus I do not understand why this was not promoted or modified as a

replacement for the Launchcast stations.

> >

> > Here is how it works:  You have a target where you can place items closer to

if you want them to play more.  This would be analagous to the old LC rating

system.  Now there is only space for maybe 36 items on the screen.  But you can

use folders to arrange the music more.  And folders within folders.   You can

also choose equal weight and the setting for music discovery.

> >

> > Here is what I have done:  I have taken a list of classic rock tracks and

created a folder (or sometimes two) for each year.   Choosing equal weight and

adventurousness to 'the hits'.  I was able to find nearly every track I was

looking for in their catalog (sometimes you have to pick from obscure

compilations but they are there).   If you choose enough different artists and

tracks, you get a station that plays nearly all music you selected.  58

different artists and 187 different tracks added so far from 1964-1971.   You

couldn't do that with Launchcast.  (Well you could several years ago before they

changed  the algorithm).   I think there is potential to modify this product to

replace the old Launchcast. 

> >

> > my station:

> > http://play.it/stations/Classic+Rock+JWD

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

If you haven't already, I reccomend going to the yahoo music page, scolling to

the bottom and click on worlwide. The choose AUS NZ and enjoy your old station

without commercials.



--- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Rollins" <TreeRol@...> wrote:

>

> I still read this board every week or two. Unfortunately my comments get

modded out more often than not, and so I find it hard to contribute to the

conversation.

>

> But I check in to see if anyone's found anything new worth trying. I'm using

Pandora now, but getting extremely tired of the repetition. I've got hundreds of

seeds and thumbed-up songs, but I hear certain songs 2 or 3 times a day and it's

driving me nuts.

>

> --- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry" <jderr@> wrote:

> >

> > Rev. Bear:

> > No the ads really don't drive me nuts.  I think if there were more real ads

it would bother me more as most just seem to be promos for other CBS stations. 

I actually like the feature-ettes.  I do not understand why CBS does not promote

this more, or promote this as a viable alternative for former Launchcast

subscribers, instead of forcing canned stations down our throats over which we

have no control over the content whatsoever.

> >

> > Does anyone from Yahoo even read this group anymore?  Or was a new one

started to discuss the new Yahoo radio??

> >

> > For the kind of music you listen to; play.it might not be a good choice.  I

like that I am able to control exactly what I will hear and what I will not.  I

always wished Launchcast would have given us that capability within their

ratings scheme.

> >

> > Never tried gotradio.com but since it costs for the customization features

probably will not.

> >

> > --- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, "Rev. Bear" <byanymeasure@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,Jerry!

> > >  

> > > Rev. Bear here.

> > >  

> > > Don't the ads on play.it drive you nuts?

> > >  

> > > I'm back to listening to my newly created David Arkenstone Radio on

last.fm.

> > >  

> > > Can't deal with loud,obnoxious ads like they have on play.it and

> > > GotRadio . . .

> > >  

> > > http://www.gotradio.com/

> > >  

> > > Listen to ambient/new age radio nearly 24/7 while i'm at home.

> > >  

> > > I'm retired/disabled.

> > >  

> > > ::HUGS::

> > >  

> > > Rev. Bear

> > > SUGAR DANCE

> > > http://sugardance.bearybipolar.com/

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Jerry <jderr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > From: Jerry <jderr@>

> > > Subject: [LAUNCHcast] play.it

> > > To: launchcast@yahoogroups.com

> > > Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:29 AM

> > >

> > >

> > > I am surprised more are not commenting and using play.it, which is also

owned by CBS.  After really working with it, I find it rather similar to

Launchcast, and in fact offers a greater deal of control than the LC algorithm

did.   Thus I do not understand why this was not promoted or modified as a

replacement for the Launchcast stations.

> > >

> > > Here is how it works:  You have a target where you can place items closer

to if you want them to play more.  This would be analagous to the old LC rating

system.  Now there is only space for maybe 36 items on the screen.  But you can

use folders to arrange the music more.  And folders within folders.   You can

also choose equal weight and the setting for music discovery.

> > >

> > > Here is what I have done:  I have taken a list of classic rock tracks and

created a folder (or sometimes two) for each year.   Choosing equal weight and

adventurousness to 'the hits'.  I was able to find nearly every track I was

looking for in their catalog (sometimes you have to pick from obscure

compilations but they are there).   If you choose enough different artists and

tracks, you get a station that plays nearly all music you selected.  58

different artists and 187 different tracks added so far from 1964-1971.   You

couldn't do that with Launchcast.  (Well you could several years ago before they

changed  the algorithm).   I think there is potential to modify this product to

replace the old Launchcast. 

> > >

> > > my station:

> > > http://play.it/stations/Classic+Rock+JWD

> > >

"I check in to see if anyone's found anything new worth trying. I'm using

Pandora now, but getting extremely tired of the repetition. I've got hundreds of

seeds and thumbed-up songs, but I hear certain songs 2 or 3 times a day and it's

driving me nuts."



I totally agree that Pandora is very repetitious. I tried MeeMix which looked

promising. It has a -6 to 0 to +6 scale, but it doesn't seem to really follow

your ratings too well. I've been listening to Jango lately. It has "don't play",

"like it", & "love it". It has produced the most enjoyable station for me, so

that's what I'm using for now.



Tom

To minimize repetition, you "need" (may find it helpful) to work with the

stations!  At first, I heard way too much Sam Cooke, though I thought I'd never

hear myself say that ... just keep tooling with the stations.  I do not undergo

excessive repetition at Pandora anymore ... where apparently, HOPE is still in

the box!

Very respectfully

jivajiva (President Club Services)



--- On Mon, 6/22/09, vernl4 <tlohrman81@...> wrote:





From: vernl4 <tlohrman81@...>

Subject: [LAUNCHcast] Re: play.it

To: launchcast@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 2:21 PM

















"I check in to see if anyone's found anything new worth trying. I'm using

Pandora now, but getting extremely tired of the repetition. I've got hundreds of

seeds and thumbed-up songs, but I hear certain songs 2 or 3 times a day and it's

driving me nuts."



I totally agree that Pandora is very repetitious. I tried MeeMix which looked

promising. It has a -6 to 0 to +6 scale, but it doesn't seem to really follow

your ratings too well. I've been listening to Jango lately. It has "don't play",

"like it", & "love it". It has produced the most enjoyable station for me, so

that's what I'm using for now.



Tom







































[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi jivajiva,



You say that you no longer get excess repetition with Pandora.  Is that because

they re-jiggered their system, or did you remove a lot of "thumbs-up"

designations for songs?



I had started finding that my Pandora stations were playing me nearly

exclusively songs that I had thumbs-up'd. I then started removing most of those

designations so that I could get more variety.



If it's safe to thumbs-up songs again, I may tread back into those waters...



  ~ Kris





--- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, Club Services <aaaclub_services@...> wrote:

>

> To minimize repetition, you "need" (may find it helpful) to work with the

stations!  At first, I heard way too much Sam Cooke, though I thought I'd never

hear myself say that ... just keep tooling with the stations.  I do not undergo

excessive repetition at Pandora anymore ... where apparently, HOPE is still in

the box!

> Very respectfully

> jivajiva (President Club Services)

>

jivajiva - you say you're getting less repetition on Pandora now.  Have they

changed something, or did you remove a lot of "thumbs-up" designations on songs?



I was finding that Pandora played me almost exclusively songs that I'd

thumbs-up'd. While I appreciated hearing music I liked already, I was jonesing

for some variety too -- so I removed a lot of the "thumbs-up" designations.



If it's safe to thumbs-up again (and still get variety), that'd be good to know!



btw, I took a look at play.it...I listen to a lot of obscure music, and play.it

just seems to be focusing on the most popular tastes at the moment.  For me,

Last.fm has the best overall music variety, followed by Pandora.



  ~ Kris



--- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, Club Services <aaaclub_services@...> wrote:

>

> To minimize repetition, you "need" (may find it helpful) to work with the

stations!  At first, I heard way too much Sam Cooke, though I thought I'd never

hear myself say that ... just keep tooling with the stations.  I do not undergo

excessive repetition at Pandora anymore ... where apparently, HOPE is still in

the box!

> Very respectfully

> jivajiva (President Club Services)

>

I'm using it too.

But it is extremely tedious work to add music to your station,so no wonder it

wasn't advertised.

The target area can quickly get crowded,and even with folders it is difficult to

track your catalog.

I started by adding artists then noticed that adding albums and tracks really

changes the behaviour of the station.

I probably have more time than the average user to tweak things,and I think that

in some respects it is even better than my LC station was,but the organization

part of it doesn't make it userfriendly.





--- In launchcast@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry" <jderr@...> wrote:

>

> I am surprised more are not commenting and using play.it, which is also owned

by CBS.  After really working with it, I find it rather similar to Launchcast,

and in fact offers a greater deal of control than the LC algorithm did.   Thus I

do not understand why this was not promoted or modified as a replacement for the

Launchcast stations.

>

> Here is how it works:  You have a target where you can place items closer to

if you want them to play more.  This would be analagous to the old LC rating

system.  Now there is only space for maybe 36 items on the screen.  But you can

use folders to arrange the music more.  And folders within folders.   You can

also choose equal weight and the setting for music discovery.

>

> Here is what I have done:  I have taken a list of classic rock tracks and

created a folder (or sometimes two) for each year.   Choosing equal weight and

adventurousness to 'the hits'.  I was able to find nearly every track I was

looking for in their catalog (sometimes you have to pick from obscure

compilations but they are there).   If you choose enough different artists and

tracks, you get a station that plays nearly all music you selected.  58

different artists and 187 different tracks added so far from 1964-1971.   You

couldn't do that with Launchcast.  (Well you could several years ago before they

changed  the algorithm).   I think there is potential to modify this product to

replace the old Launchcast.

>

> my station:

> http://play.it/stations/Classic+Rock+JWD

>

I keep adding stations and learning about music.  I don't get much repetition,

though at first it was all (piratically Sam Cooke and Al Greene now it is "like

eclectic"  :)  Thumbs up if I like it no check if I don't like it, and don't

play again if it is Dianna Ross.  :)  Unlike old Launch Cast this no play

selection is honored.   I just sent a copy of my "quick mix" url to this group. 

I wonder how that will come across!  :)

'spectfully

jivajiva in Wheeling West Virginia



--- On Wed, 7/1/09, oztofer <oztofer@...> wrote:



From: oztofer <oztofer@...>

Subject: [LAUNCHcast] Re: play.it

To: launchcast@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 10:15 AM







































Hi jivajiva,







You say that you no longer get excess repetition with Pandora.  Is that because

they re-jiggered their system, or did you remove a lot of "thumbs-up"

designations for songs?







I had started finding that my Pandora stations were playing me nearly

exclusively songs that I had thumbs-up'd. I then started removing most of those

designations so that I could get more variety.







If it's safe to thumbs-up songs again, I may tread back into those waters...







~ Kris







--- In launchcast@yahoogro ups.com, Club Services <aaaclub_services@ ...> wrote:



>



> To minimize repetition, you "need" (may find it helpful) to work with the

stations!  At first, I heard way too much Sam Cooke, though I thought I'd never

hear myself say that ... just keep tooling with the stations.  I do not undergo

excessive repetition at Pandora anymore ... where apparently, HOPE is still in

the box!



> Very respectfully



> jivajiva (President Club Services)



>































































[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm not sure! I will send you a copy of Pandora Quick Mix I've generated ...

under separate cover ... now that I have your email address ... I could not send

same to Yahoo Group (glitches?)

Thanks

jiva



--- On Wed, 7/1/09, oztofer <oztofer@...> wrote:





From: oztofer <oztofer@...>

Subject: [LAUNCHcast] Re: play.it

To: launchcast@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:36 PM



















jivajiva - you say you're getting less repetition on Pandora now. Have they

changed something, or did you remove a lot of "thumbs-up" designations on songs?



I was finding that Pandora played me almost exclusively songs that I'd

thumbs-up'd. While I appreciated hearing music I liked already, I was jonesing

for some variety too -- so I removed a lot of the "thumbs-up" designations.



If it's safe to thumbs-up again (and still get variety), that'd be good to know!



btw, I took a look at play.it...I listen to a lot of obscure music, and play.it

just seems to be focusing on the most popular tastes at the moment. For me,

Last.fm has the best overall music variety, followed by Pandora.



~ Kris



--- In launchcast@yahoogro ups.com, Club Services <aaaclub_services@ ...> wrote:

>

> To minimize repetition, you "need" (may find it helpful) to work with the

stations!  At first, I heard way too much Sam Cooke, though I thought I'd never

hear myself say that ... just keep tooling with the stations.  I do not undergo

excessive repetition at Pandora anymore ... where apparently, HOPE is still in

the box!

> Very respectfully

> jivajiva (President Club Services)

>







































[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]