HAHA! That's crazy. But it would probably take a looooooooong time to purge
then..

--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "David Dineen-Porter" <theddp@...> wrote:

> The phrases are identical in when the notes are played, what instruments they
are, and what intervals the notes have to one another.  So if they could be
merged to 1 phrase, but then the 2nd phrase transposed by FE in the chain column
it would save a bit of space.  Probably much harder to do
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Dineen-Porter
>
>
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I just went through a song and did this method of adding 0FF to phrases I wanted
to fill in later, well 0FF, 0FE, 0FD etc.. so I didn’t’ merge all those
phrases.  And even with those ones blocked off, I cleared 45 phrases.



Yikes





An interesting feature might be , and this is probably way harder, but if two
phrases are identical, EXCEPT, the pitch of the notes.  I mean this  if a phrase
is



E5 01 --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

A5 01 --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --



Etc.. so there are only two notes

And a 2nd phrase ios



D5 01 --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

G5 01 --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

-- -- --

Etc..



The phrases are identical in when the notes are played, what instruments they
are, and what intervals the notes have to one another.  So if they could be
merged to 1 phrase, but then the 2nd phrase transposed by FE in the chain column
it would save a bit of space.  Probably much harder to do







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From: lsdj@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lsdj@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mobbbeep@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 AM
To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LSDj!] Re: v3.9.j





One of the great things about this new feature is that you can easily make new
blank or k phrases (or anyother phrases that youre not quite sure if you have
already made) anywhere at anytime, and just merge to save space. Its a real
timesaver if you get used to it.

--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com <mailto:lsdj%40yahoogroups.com> , Johan Kotlinski
<kotlinski@...> wrote:
>
> Of course it would be easy for me to change so that empty phrases aren't
merged.
>
> But how about this. What if someone (like me) doesn't use FD as
> special blank phrase, but just press A,A and then leave that phrase
> blank? Then there will be a lot of missed savings if all those blank
> phrases aren't merged.
>
> Johan
> ---
> http://www.littlesounddj.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM, David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...> wrote:
> > I only do it rarely though. Â I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command
on step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands. Â But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B. Â Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes. Â Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen.
 I guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs.  Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve.  That’s a fair solution
actually.
>





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‘Brilliant’

-          Time Magazine







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From: lsdj@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lsdj@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Johan
Kotlinski
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:30 AM
To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LSDj!] v3.9.j





Good thinking. Actually it should be enough just to put a command
value with no command, like -FF

Johan
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http://www.littlesounddj.com

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM, ichbinladin <ichbinladin@...
<mailto:ichbinladin%40yahoo.se> > wrote:
> I suppose you could put a command in you blank phrase to make it unique. Like
a P00, V00 or AFF e.g. Thus preventing it from being merged.
>
> /tRasH
>
> --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com <mailto:lsdj%40yahoogroups.com> , Ove Ridé
<nitro2k01@...> wrote:
>>
>> This is the reason I stick with old versions.
>>
>> 2009/11/30 David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...>
>>
>> > I only do it rarely though. I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command
on step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands. But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B. Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes. Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen. I
guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs. Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve. That's a fair solution actually.
>> >
>>
>> --
>> /Ove
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Good thinking. Actually it should be enough just to put a command
value with no command, like -FF

Johan
---
http://www.littlesounddj.com



On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM, ichbinladin <ichbinladin@...> wrote:
> I suppose you could put a command in you blank phrase to make it unique. Like
a P00, V00 or AFF e.g. Thus preventing it from being merged.
>
> /tRasH
>
> --- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, Ove Ridé <nitro2k01@...> wrote:
>>
>> This is the reason I stick with old versions.
>>
>> 2009/11/30 David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...>
>>
>> > I only do it rarely though. I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command
on step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands. But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B. Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes. Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen. I
guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs. Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve. That's a fair solution actually.
>> >
>>
>> --
>> /Ove
>>
>> -----BEGIN 2ROT13 MESSAGE-----
>> Blog:
>> <http://gameboygenius.8bitcollective.com/>
>> SKRIVA på Lysator. Ditt Ahrvid-fria alternativ:
>> <http://lists.lysator.liu.se/mailman/listinfo/korkek?SKRIVA?>
>> Sätt på ett par flipflops, vippa på rumpan
>> och gör det här till en minnesvärd sommar!
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>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

I suppose you could put a command in you blank phrase to make it unique. Like a
P00, V00 or AFF e.g. Thus preventing it from being merged.

/tRasH

--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, Ove Rid� <nitro2k01@...> wrote:
>
> This is the reason I stick with old versions.
>
> 2009/11/30 David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...>
>
> > I only do it rarely though. I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command on
step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands. But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B. Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes. Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen. I
guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs. Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve. That's a fair solution actually.
> >
>
> --
> /Ove
>
> -----BEGIN 2ROT13 MESSAGE-----
> Blog:
> <http://gameboygenius.8bitcollective.com/>
> SKRIVA p� Lysator. Ditt Ahrvid-fria alternativ:
> <http://lists.lysator.liu.se/mailman/listinfo/korkek?SKRIVA?>
> S�tt p� ett par flipflops, vippa p� rumpan
> och g�r det h�r till en minnesv�rd sommar!
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>

One of the great things about this new feature is that you can easily make new
blank or k phrases (or anyother phrases that youre not quite sure if you have
already made) anywhere at anytime, and just merge to save space. Its a real
timesaver if you get used to it.

--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, Johan Kotlinski <kotlinski@...> wrote:
>
> Of course it would be easy for me to change so that empty phrases aren't
merged.
>
> But how about this. What if someone (like me) doesn't use FD as
> special blank phrase, but just press A,A and then leave that phrase
> blank? Then there will be a lot of missed savings if all those blank
> phrases aren't merged.
>
> Johan
> ---
> http://www.littlesounddj.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM, David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...> wrote:
> > I only do it rarely though.  I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command
on step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands.  But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B.  Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes.  Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen.
 I guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs.  Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve.  That’s a fair solution actually.
>

Of course it would be easy for me to change so that empty phrases aren't merged.

But how about this. What if someone (like me) doesn't use FD as
special blank phrase, but just press A,A and then leave that phrase
blank? Then there will be a lot of missed savings if all those blank
phrases aren't merged.

Johan
---
http://www.littlesounddj.com



On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM, David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...> wrote:
> I only do it rarely though.  I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command on
step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands.  But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B.  Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes.  Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen.
 I guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs.  Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve.  That’s a fair solution actually.

Did you find that noise bug yet?

Johan
---
http://www.littlesounddj.com



On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Ove Ridé <nitro2k01@...> wrote:
> This is the reason I stick with old versions.
>
> 2009/11/30 David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...>
>
>> I only do it rarely though. I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command on
step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands. But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B. Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes. Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen. I
guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs. Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve. That’s a fair solution actually.
>>
>
> --
> /Ove
>
> -----BEGIN 2ROT13 MESSAGE-----
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> SKRIVA på Lysator. Ditt Ahrvid-fria alternativ:
> <http://lists.lysator.liu.se/mailman/listinfo/korkek?SKRIVA?>
> Sätt på ett par flipflops, vippa på rumpan
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This is the reason I stick with old versions.

2009/11/30 David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...>

> I only do it rarely though. I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command on
step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands. But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B. Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes. Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen. I
guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs. Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve. That�s a fair solution actually.
>

--
/Ove

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I only do it rarely though.  I use FE as a blank phrase with a K00 command on
step 1, and FD as a blank phrase, that has no commands.  But if I leave any
phrase, anywhere, blank, then when I clean song data, all my FDs are replaced
with.. say, 1B.  Then I change 1B, and all throughout my song I have all these
rogue notes.  Even if I clean the song data rarely, this is bound to happen.  I
guess I have to be much more careful in how I make my songs.  Perhaps the
solution is that I change, and improve.  That’s a fair solution actually.





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From: lsdj@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lsdj@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Johan
Kotlinski
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:55 AM
To: lsdj@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LSDj!] v3.9.j





Hi,
(I knew this feature would cause problems for someone),
could the solution be, don't clean data that often?
Regards
Johan
---
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM, David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...
<mailto:theddp%40gmail.com> > wrote:
> I have a feature request.  This has been causing me considerable problems. 
The new LSDJ merges phrases that are the same, to save space.  But because I
leave blank phrases where later I will fill in information, if I “clean song
data”, I go back and enter my music, and lo and behold, all my silent parts
now have music I nthem.  It would be really really helpful if the merging of
phrases did not include empty phrases.
>
>
>
> Does anyone else think this?  Or just me?
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Hi,
(I knew this feature would cause problems for someone),
could the solution be, don't clean data that often?
Regards
Johan
---
http://www.littlesounddj.com



On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM, David Dineen-Porter <theddp@...> wrote:
> I have a feature request.  This has been causing me considerable problems.
 The new LSDJ merges phrases that are the same, to save space.  But because I
leave blank phrases where later I will fill in information, if I “clean song
data”, I go back and enter my music, and lo and behold, all my silent parts
now have music I nthem.  It would be really really helpful if the merging of
phrases did not include empty phrases.
>
>
>
> Does anyone else think this?  Or just me?
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

I have a feature request.  This has been causing me considerable problems.  The
new LSDJ merges phrases that are the same, to save space.  But because I leave
blank phrases where later I will fill in information, if I “clean song
data”, I go back and enter my music, and lo and behold, all my silent parts
now have music I nthem.  It would be really really helpful if the merging of
phrases did not include empty phrases.



Does anyone else think this?  Or just me?



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Hi,
I am in a period of fixing very rare crash bugs.
Work is slow but making progress.
Would like to thank everyone that mails in crash reports!

Regards
Johan
-------

2009-11-30: v3.9.j

  * bugfix: fixed seemingly random crash bug related to bank switching.
  * fixed, or at least safed up, some dangerous/broken code.
  * bugfix: copy/paste problem in synth screen. copying from one row
    and pasting on another could result in invalid data.
  * added more useful info to crash screen.
  * cleaned up interrupt handling.

http://littlesounddj.com/lsd/latest/full_version/

Did anyone ever buy one of these? I was pretty intrigued, but a
combination of the manufacturer's terrible english and the rather
Stalinist removal of any discussion of the cart on 8bc meant more
details were hard to come by.



2009/11/26 Ove Rid� <nitro2k01@...>:
> 2009/11/26 Johan Kotlinski <kotlinski@...>
>> Hi,
>> has anyone tried/ordered the Smartboy cart?
>> http://www.smartboy.ugu.pl/index.html
>>
>> Would be interesting to know if its working well!
> The Smartboy cart is pretty much a ripoff of the GB cart flasher.
> (Using the same hardware layout and microcontroller firmware)
> <http://www.ziegler.desaign.de/readplus.htm#GB_Flasher>
> It's using the same flash chip as the BleepBloop cartridges. As such
> it should work the same way, assuming there are no hardware flaws that
> could degrade performance. (Too slow RAM, missing filter caps, badly
> designed PCB layout that will cause interference/leak capacitance
> problems)
> From what I hear they work pretty well, and it should be compatible
> with my mysterious LittleFM software. (Shameless self promotion)
>
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2009/11/26 Johan Kotlinski <kotlinski@...>
> Hi,
> has anyone tried/ordered the Smartboy cart?
> http://www.smartboy.ugu.pl/index.html
>
> Would be interesting to know if its working well!
The Smartboy cart is pretty much a ripoff of the GB cart flasher.
(Using the same hardware layout and microcontroller firmware)
<http://www.ziegler.desaign.de/readplus.htm#GB_Flasher>
It's using the same flash chip as the BleepBloop cartridges. As such
it should work the same way, assuming there are no hardware flaws that
could degrade performance. (Too slow RAM, missing filter caps, badly
designed PCB layout that will cause interference/leak capacitance
problems)
From what I hear they work pretty well, and it should be compatible
with my mysterious LittleFM software. (Shameless self promotion)

--
/Ove

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Hi,
has anyone tried/ordered the Smartboy cart?
http://www.smartboy.ugu.pl/index.html

Would be interesting to know if its working well!

Cheers
Johan
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--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "leedavila" <leedavila@...> wrote:
>
> Noob ?: If I'm working on a pattern way down a chain, how do I loop or
> preview just  that step of the chain along with the other patterns at
> that step of the other chains?  THX!

As I see it, you have two options.
1. Have patience and listen through the previous phrases.
2. Create temporary chains containing the phrases you're working on.

This matter has actually been discussed some time ago and if I remember
correctly a key combination to achieve what you ask for was voted down due to
inconsistencies if the different chains in a row contained different amount of
phrases.

Cheers,
t

Noob ?: If I'm working on a pattern way down a chain, how do I loop or
preview just  that step of the chain along with the other patterns at
that step of the other chains?  THX!


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2009-11-18: v3.9.i

  * make sure work/play time in project screen is displayed
    accordingly when starting/stopping song (thx Robot2037)
  * fixed some visual bugs when changing sync in project screen
    (thx Robot2037)
  * make project settings for key delay/repeat and energy save
    survive file loading (thx Robot2037)

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:O This looks like a whole lots of trouble :P :)
well, I guess I'll just go and buy one of those
smart cartridges :)

Thanx for the reply
Arni Geir


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Efni: [LSDj!] Re: Transfering to Carts Using Transferer

Unfortunately, no. Normal cartridges use ROMs for data storage, meaning they
cannot be written to, but the smart cartridges, usb, etc. use rewritable memory.
It's possible to make your own flash cartridge using a normal cart(
http://www.reinerziegler.de/readplus.htm#Home ), but unless you really want a
project, I suggest simply buying one.

--- In lsdj@yahoogroups.com, "alarusson" <smaug@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, I was wandering:
> Is it possible to transfer LSDJ and other music making programs
> via Transferer II to a normal gaming cart? or does it have to be
> the smart cart/USB cart?
>
> Cheers
> Arni Geir
>