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[Ludwig Vistalites] Re: Correct bearing edge profile?

C-c-confidence Jamie,
I'm really not t-t-too sure about that ;-)
I even hate it when they put really bright stage lights on !
Hey a shy drummer, it had to happen one day!!
Although nowadays at my advanced age in the shoddy little pubs we now
play in, I really don't 'give one' anymore ;-)
So I've just checked me angles and guess what... Pretty-well bang-
onish, close enough for Jazz anyway.
So now I am now wondering what the hell was I flapping about, oh yeah
my main concern was confirmation of the 35 degree issue.
So job done, thanks guys for all your help.
John H.


--- In ludwigvistalites@yahoogroups.com, Jamie Canfield
<flashbackcoverband@...> wrote:
>
> don't be scared. confidence is the key to all lifes hurdles.
just don't forget to use tape on both sides of the shell. and keep a
steady flow. let the router do the work. trust me on this. if
vistalites are rare but cheap,? then start buying em. i'll take all
the green ones ya find?
>
> jonnybeharveyuk <johnharvey-@...> wrote: Ah
brilliant! 35 it is then Jamie!
> Yes these drums seem to be as rare as hen's teeth over here mate!
> Yet oddly they do not seem to be as valued 'on the market' as in
> America, maybe they are too rare thus nobody knows or appreciates
> them?
> Oo-err I don't trust a router with me in charge! I will rub em down
> by hand, maybe it sounds crude but I have a little system that I
have
> used before, it's gradual and reasonably idiot proof ;-)
> Thanks again fellers, 'a problem shared is a problem halved' eh?
> John H
> PS How the hell does one do degrees on a keyboard? You know, that
> little 'O' job...
>
> --- In ludwigvistalites@yahoogroups.com, Jamie Canfield
> <flashbackcoverband@> wrote:
> >
> > yeah. what i did on the one drum i cut. all that was available
> from the local hardware store was the standard 45 degree router
bit.
> so i set up on my router table, used 2 blocks aprox 3 inches high
to
> bring the cut angle back to aprox 35 degrees. just go real slow.
> don't let it chatter or it'll break the shell. and use 2 inch wide
> masking tape inside and out. i'm sure vistalite shells are hard to
> come by in the U.K. even here in the U.S. it took me around 2
> years to collect 9 pieces of red. now i'm gonna start a green kit.
> that'll take even longer... if ya run into trouble. look up a
> company called R.C.I. starlite. they sell shells. most colors and
> fairly cheap..
> >
> > jonnybeharveyuk <johnharvey-@...> wrote: Ta for
> reply,
> > You may well be right there with the 35 degrees, even that is
good
> > news as even that angle would save me a lot of work if any.
> > I hope someone will advise on the correct profiles & angles all
in
> > good time ;-)
> > Boy they were poorly made these old 70's placcy drums were they
not.
> > Great sound though... Odd eh!
> > John H
> >
> > --- In ludwigvistalites@yahoogroups.com, "flashbackcoverband"
> > <flashbackcoverband@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think it's all of 45 degrees. i'm not an expert but as
i
> > > recall it's more like 35 degrees.. allthough the common router
> > bit
> > > is no doubt 45 degrees. again. not sure. but i have just sanded
> > > the edge by hand to smooth out that rough factory edge.. worked
> > > best for my taiste...just use alot of masking tape to protect
the
> > > area you dont want to scratch...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ludwigvistalites@yahoogroups.com, "jonnybeharveyuk"
> > > <johnharvey-@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Folks,
> > > > I am re-furbing my 70's clear Vistas again.
> > > > What is the original bearing edge profile for these old toms?
> > > > Over 20 years ago! I reformed the usual 'wobbly' Vista
bearing
> > > edges
> > > > and re-cut the edges to two 45 degrees with the high point or
> > > actual
> > > > bearing edge in the center of the plastic, like this /\ if
you
> > get
> > > me
> > > > drift.
> > > > I have convinced myself over the years that the original
> profile
> > > should
> > > > actually be with one single 45 degree angle rising from the
> inner
> > > > circumference to the actual bearing edge 'point' around the
> outer
> > > > circumference of the shell, and that I had 'buggered 'em up'!
> > > > I've just seen an acrylic drum repair site I think by
Griptoad?
> > And
> > > I
> > > > think I can just make out the two 45 degree profile on the
drum
> > > being
> > > > repaired. So maybe I aint 'cocked-up' after all!
> > > > Any advice chaps?
> > > > John H
> > > >
> > >
> >
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I don't think it's all of 45 degrees. i'm not an expert but as i recall it's more like 35 degrees.. allthough the common router bit is no doubt 45 degrees....
flashbackcoverband
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Feb 15, 2008
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yeah. what i did on the one drum i cut. all that was available from the local hardware store was the standard 45 degree router bit. so i set up on my router...
Jamie Canfield
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Feb 15, 2008
8:33 pm

don't be scared. confidence is the key to all lifes hurdles. just don't forget to use tape on both sides of the shell. and keep a steady flow. let the...
Jamie Canfield
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Feb 15, 2008
9:05 pm

C-c-confidence Jamie, I'm really not t-t-too sure about that ;-) I even hate it when they put really bright stage lights on ! Hey a shy drummer, it had to...
jonnybeharveyuk
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Feb 15, 2008
9:31 pm

Hi Guys, So that's good news about my 12, 13 & 16" tom bearing edges, thanks to all for your help and reassurance. But did Ludwig ever put a single 35 degree...
jonnybeharveyuk
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Feb 16, 2008
12:31 pm

I'm not at home right now, but mine are original. I found head selection critical in the seating process........... I'll repley again when I have time.--- In ...
vista1868
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Feb 15, 2008
9:01 pm

Hi Vista, Big thanks for your reply but I seem to have done an ok job all those years back and did in fact merely improve the bearing edges rather than...
jonnybeharveyuk
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Feb 15, 2008
9:45 pm

Me personally i leave that to those who do it best.there are some people who offer that service. ... those ... better ... profile ... inner ... outer...
Russell
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