Yoel, I take my hat off to your passion for Blumine, but only because I can only assume others in this group have their hats pulled down firmly over the ears....
I enjoy Blumine very much, in or out of context. One can hear echos of it in the last movement of Symphony No. 1. In any case, it is Mahler. Whether it...
... I think it's easy: if the performance is of the 1889 (I believe Joe Monzo is working on a reconstruction) or 1893/4 version, then Blumine should be played....
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Oct 2, 2006 8:25 pm
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... I don't want to get into an argument about what Mahler sanctioned. I do agree that M1 proper+Blumine does not make sense as they are essentially two...
... Oh, I'm not in the business of forbidding. I was merely answering the previous poster, who seemed a bit confused. I do, though, feel that record companies...
dbarker@...
Oct 3, 2006 2:21 am
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I just translated "Das Klagende Lied". Very appropriate that folks would complain about it. ...
... but the blumine thing I want. Now, apologies if this seems like a commercial but I don't really know how else to do this. The only source I know for these...
For those interested, I've uploaded this performance to Rapidshare. Here's the link. http://rapidshare.de/files/35417558/Gustav_Mahler__Symphony_No._7.zip.h ...
... I admit to not having read the whole. The song of sorrow is a very inaccurate translation of Das klagende Lied which is literally The Complaining Song and...
I always understood the DKL to be the song of lament. Stan G ... From: Yoel L. Arbeitman To: mahler@yahoogroups.com Cc: mahler@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday,...
... Let us first parse the German: klagende is a neuter active present participle (in weak declension). It modifies the neuter noun Lied. Das klagende (lower...
Yoel wrote: "The song of sorrow is a very inaccurate translation of Das klagende Lied which is literally The Complaining Song and some also see in the title...
... Hi Martin, The CDs in question here sell at jpc for c.19 Euros (= c. $24). Is that the usual price of a CD in Germany? That seems a humongous sum for a...
... Somehow (really) I knew before I read your response what you would say. I don't disagree that parsing is not translation. I also do believe that free,...
... It's black on white in my copy, Mitch, and easily readable, but yes, very fine indeed -- who is Reinhold Kublik? And they translate Das klagende Lied to...
... Reinhold Kubik is a vice president of the IGMG, the Internationale Gustav Mahler Gesellschaft. He is also editor of the Critical Editions. ... Plaintive...
... Is that the usual price of a CD in Germany? That seems a humongous sum for a single CD to me. Hi Yoel, It is not a very unusual price as jpc is usually not...
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Oct 9, 2006 12:05 am
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I am going to do my best to state what I have to state in spite of my difficulties typing. Therefore if there are dreadful errors, correct them nicely. I...
... Your typing is fine. - Have you hurt your hand(s)? ... (It doesn't matter for the translation of the title, but I feel accuse goes a bit too far in the...
... Your English is superb and you also have a great feel for the language, so I think you can make a judgement here. I just want to make a quick comment about...
In a message dated 10/7/2006 10:14:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ... They're not "good titles" - I wouldn't want to see either of them in cold print on a...
Is anyone going to be at tomorrow (Friday) night's Philadelphia Orchestra concert? If so, would you like to meet up? If interested, please let me know. Thanks,...
Nietzsche was right about the feminization of music in Wagner. And according to Zizek we get a paradoxical double surplus of the music and drama. Too much...
For a profound defense of Wagner, try Michael Tanner's biography, or Roger Scruton's pages on Wagner in his book Modern Culture. Says Scruton, "The Operas of...
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