Gene Gaudette discusses with Henry-Louis de La Grange the fourth volume of the author's ground-breaking biography of Gustav Mahler – discovering some...
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Amazing how I've managed to miss it for so long but it was only when I came across Schwartz/LSO/Everest (which makes this so prominent) that I realised M5 is...
Hi, ... I didn't know about the name until I read your mail. But then, until three or four years ago I didn't know about the "Song of the Night" either. Not...
... I've done my share of reading and writing about Mahler, and I'll be happy to unequivocally state complete and utter ignorance of this name. "Die Grosse"...
In a message dated 6/5/2008 12:33:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... FWIW, the Everest LP issue(s) offered no such identification. Certainly I've never heard the...
My memory is that the liner notes for the Walter recording when it was on Odyssey LPs mentioned something about a title by which the symphony was sometimes...
Really, adagietti is a word? I thought I remember Mahler as someone who rejected titles. What are the titles that were approved? Was 'Tragic' approved? Titan?...
Mahler's Fifth is a great symphony. Maybe the word Great was just capitalized for emphasis because it is the author's favorite of all of Mahler's great...
Am I correct in recalling that in the 'bad old days' the Fifth was sometimes called 'The Giant'? This, rather than 'The Great' is cited in Chwialkowski's 1996...
Great, isn't it? Well, no, actually. Joel Lazar is correct: the Everest says "The Giant", not "The Great." cheers paul [Non-text portions of this message have...
... No, it's the Italian plural and it's an adjective. If a musical term has become commonplace in English then it should be 'pluralised' as English words. I...
No? an adjective is not a word? Pluralised as English words would be 'adagiettos' or 'adagiettoes'? I'm just asking :) I prefer Sonaten myself On Fri, Jun 6,...
Want to bet there are some who call them "adagietti"? Maybe "adagietorum" is better. -Larry _____ From: mahler@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mahler@yahoogroups.com]...
Hi ... This morning I'm in a practical mood: Is there another Adagietto beside Mahler's? If not, there's no need for a plural, we can simply talk about our...
... I agree in principle... but then I find it often difficult to figure out just when a term should be considered "commonplace". I'll write "Sonatas" without...
... And if one is thinking in German, the error could occur easily -- depending on the context, couldn't "Die Grosse" be translated either way? I could see a...
<<I have, for example, seen people refer to sonatas as sonate, which might be a valid Italian plural but IMHO appears pretentious, not to mention confusing.>> ...
... is better.<< But, Larry, that'd be Genitive case -- "of the Adagiettos" (or, "of the Adagietti," I suppose)! SFV ... From: mahler@yahoogroups.com To:...
Hmmm, Schubert was a giant but I've never seen Schubert's The Giant. Is M5 a giant in some way his others aren't? cheers paul in london. [Non-text portions of...
I'll bet you a tomatoe to a potatoe he's right (Not!). _____ From: mahler@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mahler@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Trevor Sent: Saturday,...
... depending on the context, couldn't "Die Grosse" be translated either way? I could see a record producer -- particularly from a "quickie/budget" firm like...
Am I correct in recalling that in the 'bad old days' the Fifth was sometimes called 'The Giant'. The notes by Paul Affelder on the original LP set (Everest...
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