Hi, I have worried about this for a long time. HLdLG in vol II, p.818 refers to two Mengelberg recordings of the Adagietto, the well-known 1926 one at 7 mins....
In all the discography lists of Mengelberg that I have seen, there has only been mention of the one 1926 version. I have never seen another one listed. Perhaps...
It would really be interesting to hear what H-L has to say about the second Adagietto recording. I have got several Mengelberg discographies and none of it...
... Thanks for the research. In the seemingly well-informed notes in the Naxos issue there is wailing and gnashing of the teeth at the fact that the 1926...
I think that we must make the distinction between a recording that was made with the intention to commercialise it (adagietto) and a recording that was made...
... I beg the court for the opportunity to emend my impression. The M4, more precisely, is no "air-check" or such but a professionally made recording by the ...
AVRO was broadcasting and recording Mengelberg concerts from 1935 to 1941. It has been fortunate that they were not just broadcasting them as was the case with...
In a message dated 3/8/2009 7:26:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ... whatever music playing with incessant portamento? If this is so, we are fooling ourselves.<< ...
Steve, The EMI disc stinks ! It's the worst Mengelberg transfer I have ever heard. A travesty of the Mengelberg sound and not only in the adagietto. If you...
George and all interested, I have not read the responses today and probably won't until tomorrow. I have just been listening to the devastating 1941 Tch 6. The...
Yoel, Â They used to be available on CD, all three of them plus some excerpts. No idea if they still are. Â Regarding the adagietto, I got an interesting...
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Today is the anniversary of the marriage of Gustav Mahler to Alma Schindler. They married on this date in Vienna in 1902. After the marriage, Mahler wrote M5...
... Mengelberg wrote it into his score of the Fifth. Not sure where I read it first, but a search brought me Donald Mitchell's book as a result See here:...
... George, I just checked. Music&Arts has a two CD set (from sellers at this point) with 4, 5, 6, but doesn't say which 6. Also Archipel has the 4 and the 5...
Yoel, Â First of all, I should make a correction. I should have written "all four of them" instead of "all three of them". If the M&A is the CD-809(2) one,...
... Maybe, George, we should be writing all 3 &1/2 of them or whatever. I have lost track already. 1937 or 1938 and 1941 (on Naxos and superb, highly...
Yoel, Â IThe situation regarding the Mengelberg Tchaikovsky 5ths is further complicated by the fact that there are alternate takes of the first two movements...
... Dear All, Following the advice of participants here, I have corresponded with Prof. Henry-Louis de La Grange (sorry, I never divide his name correctly). A...
The Tchaicovsky 6 in the Music & Arts set (809) is listed as being the one from 1937. Best, Gonzalo ... From: Malvenuto To: mahler@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
... I would expect, as I was implying, George, the other day, that the Pearl is OOP. That often happens. And, sigh, the many Pearls of various treasures which...
Dear Yoel, Â I checked the site of Arkivmusic and found the Pearl Mengelberg Columbia still available. No idea how different takes were allocated to various...
... George, Probably the Arkivmusic is their own CD-R. Almost everything, well many things OOP Arkivmusic offers their own CD-R with NO DOCUMENTATION and for ...