HELTER STUPID: Rev. Estus Pirkle, who died last year, was the preacher
of course who kept saying "Christianity is Stupid, Communism is Good".
Wonder where N-land got that clip from? It was from a cult movie
that would put Ed Wood to shame, from what I've read of it:
If Footmen Tire You, What Would Horses Do?

interesting...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0336618/

THE PERFECT CUT: I haven't downloaded this yet, but the following site
apparently has the "Winning Score" radio jingle "selling" package that
N-land used. Listen on your comp. or download to mp3 player if you
have one:

http://www.reelradio.com/gifts/tmws77.html

Finally, on some Negativland shows you hear a KPFA newsreader named
Paula Nelson. Whatever happened to her? Lately, she's been one of
the people trying to get their money back from a certain bankrupt
radio network. (If it's the same Paula Nelson...) From the Sacramento
Bee: "Local broadcasting owner Paula Nelson just wants her money,
close to $1 million by her estimate. How much she'll get -- or whether
she'll be paid at all -- in the Air America Radio bankruptcy
reorganization case remains to be seen.

"Nelson is chief executive officer and president of Sacramento-based
Diamond Broadcasting, which owns radio station Talk City KSAC, 1240
AM. She was named Tuesday as part of a trio representing unsecured
creditors in bankruptcy proceedings involving the liberal-leaning
radio network. Air America filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
Oct. 13 in U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York.

"I hope we can get what's owed to us, so we can move forward," Nelson
said.

(AAR took their network to another station, then...)

"I put a tremendous amount of resources building up their profile in
Sacramento," Nelson said then. "I convinced them they could get a
following. Now, they snub their noses at us and go to another station."

(Paula Nelson can be heard on some Dick Vaughn stuff...like when she's
reading some news items and funny sound effects show up...)

--- In negativlandland@yahoogroups.com, "kayarna-lopez423@s..."
<kayarna-lopez423@s...> wrote:
>
> Well I just got engaged! I can't believe it, just last year I was
beginning to think i would never meet anyone.

Must be desperate, to want to marry a spam-monger.  Especially one who
doesn't have the good sense to avoid Yahoo Groups with too many people
of above-average intelligence, and/or have been inactive for two years,
and/or both.  Go bug some Nigerian heirs instead....

--- In negativlandland@yahoogroups.com, "kayarna-lopez423@s..."
<kayarna-lopez423@s...> wrote:
>
> Yeah I know, I never really thought this stuff would work either, but
honestly I stand totally corrected.

You know, I thought spammers were obnoxious assholes.  Hey, once again
I was proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I was RIGHT!

Yeah I know, I never       really thought this stuff would work either, but
honestly I stand totally corrected. This place
http://www.hookupbaronline.info/zpgr is actually very awesome. I hooked mycam up
and within no time at all I was talking to a few great ladies over it. Anyway, I
recommend it to everyone here!

Well I just got engaged! I can't believe it, just last year I was beginning to
think i would never meet anyone. I'm 25 already and I   thought it was all over.
After some recommendations from a buddy I joined up here:
http://www.browsepictureshere.info/uzxm and after 2 weeks I was already meeting
up with a  beauty. Well, 14 months later and where still together and planning
our marriage for later this year =)

I went to negativland.com and the site seemed to be down. Anyone
know what's going on? Please let me know.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radiofreeradio/

>  The bathroom in the
> basement of the Disneyland Hotel was playing the Love Theme from the
> Enchanted Tiki Room on the sound system...I'm told the Tiki Room is
> still in operation, so I may just go to Disneyland soon after all.

Have since been, twice.  Strange sense of deja vu on some of the
rides, especially the "Pirates of the Caribbean", thanks to my
previous listens to "A Piddle Diddle Disneyland".

Anyone else out there?  I'm surprised this "group" is still open, as
Yahoo has been starting to shut down inactive ones (not enough hits on
their ads I gue

--- In negativlandland@y..., zineland <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Anyhoo, I really enjoyed the Ride Thoery show, as well as the also-
> mentioned "A Piddle Diddle Disneyland".  On a clear night I can see
> the Disneyland fireworks show from up here, but I have still not
> set foot in the place...

Slight update...I got as near as the front gate the other evening,
but this was after Dizzyland had closed for the day.  The nearly-new
Downtown Disney area was open however, and my friend wanted to go for
some snack food at their pseudo-Cajun restaurant.  The place is not
unlike other recent new malls in Orange County, with an outdoor faux-
downtown style.  Free admission, and free parking (for 2 hours or
less), but expensive food and souvenirs.  The bathroom in the
basement of the Disneyland Hotel was playing the Love Theme from the
Enchanted Tiki Room on the sound system...I'm told the Tiki Room is
still in operation, so I may just go to Disneyland soon after all.

--- In negativlandland@y..., "shrinkingman" <anthrocoon@a...> wrote:
> Is it possible nobody has posted on this group since January?

Looks like a yes.  This would be my first chance to check some of
my "groups" since December!  Hope my time does not run out before my
reply typing does?

Anyhoo, I really enjoyed the Ride Thoery show, as well as the also-
mentioned "A Piddle Diddle Disneyland".  On a clear night I can see
the Disneyland fireworks show from up here, but I have still not set
foot in the place...no time, and things I'd rather be doing with the
$42 or whatever it costs this year.

-- MarkTime

More info: I DID find an OTE show on negland's site, the one this CD
probably came from. What I got was an hour long tape dubbed from a CD
but here's the original show:

The Radio Journal Of Ride Theory I
(Nov. '00)
Dan Howland, Don, Ignatz Topo, Crosley Bendix

Two 90 cassettes. No N.R. $20.00
    Ignatz Topo, editor of The Journal Of Ride Theory, joins Crosley
Bendix for a show all about amusement park rides and Mr. Ignatz's
insightful zine on the subject. After a disagreeable phone call from
Michael Eisner himself concerning the content of Ignatz's journal, we
mix a lot of material on all kinds of rides, especially the roller
coasters of America and the theme rides of Disneyland. Regular
features include the White Knuckle News Ride with topical reports
about the darker side of amusement, and Ride Quest in which phone
callers are quized about the world of rides in order to win a free
spin on our radio roller coaster. Nice stuff and a very packed and
focused production.

Is it possible nobody has posted on this group since January? Anyway,
a friend mailed me a dub of a CD that sounded like it was an OTE
show, featuring Don Joyce as Crosley Bendix and at least one guy who
does the zine "Journal of Ride Theory" and there was a lot of stuff
related to Disney on it...great found sound stuff! For some strange
reason I don't see it listed on negland's site (maybe it's available
only from Journal of Ride Theory?)

Some of the stuff on it: a guy making a tape for Ford and he keeps
screwing up; the real reason why they changed the name of EuroDisney;
Crosley "interviewing" Michael Eisner, old tours of Disneyland (OTE
did a great show about 10 yrs ago, "A Piddle Diddle Disneyland", which
was similar...

I think Jamcon 84 has C. Elliot doing a campaign
speech ("remember, a bird has a left wing and a right
wing. The bird brain is in the middle") but that's just
very brief. Other than that, there's not much in my
own collection dealing with those;<br>but go to
<a href=http://www.negativland.com target=new>http://www.negativland.com</a> and
check out<br>their OTE tape section and I
think you'll see more.<br>(Though the prices they
charge are a bit much...<br>although helping out
Negativland _is_ a pretty<br>good cause. At least the money
wouldn't be going to a big corporation like Island Records
&gt;&gt;&gt;)

Hey Shrinkingman, does the C. Elliot Friday
"theme", or whatever you want to call it, show up in other
OTEs? That whole Howland Island bit, and Fridatronics,
etc.. Just wondering, since the only two I have are
Time Zones & Willsaphone Stupid Show. I can't believe
that I haven't been able to budget sending you the
blanks yet..everybody has been shoving their hands in my
face, palm up, but I'm still planning on it..maybe
after my NEXT paycheck. . I hate this money-driven
society...it's VERY STUPID and DUMB. ..but it could ALWAYS be
worse, eh?<br><br> MoeLeom

Thanks! I'll try to get them in the mail sometime
this week. I'm anxious to hear them...I guess I've
been working on my slack-skills lately! But I did
order myself a neato Dis-Pepsi t-shirt, a big green NO
OTHER POSSIBILITY sticker and a couple of Negativland
is STUPID buttons from the www.negativland.com. I'm
trying hard to spread the word...but most people I try
to turn on are too STUPID to understand the big
N.<br><br> MoEL

themoleman: have been waiting for you to send those blanks so I can tape the
OTEs for you.<br>Send em when you can & I'll dub right
away<br>shrinkingman@...

Speaking of numbers, my 40th birthday will fall on 02/02/02. :)

The time is drawing near for the countdown to
begin. Countdown to 2002, the year of the palindrome.
The last palindrome year was 1991, but the next one
won't be rolling around until 2112, when the meek
inherit the earth. What does it all mean? Well, hopefully
it means another release from the boys in
Negativland. Their website says "DEATHSENTENCES OF THE
POLISHED AND STRUCTURALLY WEAK" might be out in 2002; I'm
keeping MY fingers crossed, palindromatically, of course.
<br> Have a New Year, I will.<br><br> Moel Leom

This is ponderous man, fuckin' ponderous...<br><br><a
href=http://www.shockcomics.com/kc/
target=new>http://www.shockcomics.com/kc/</a>

Have a VERY STUPID Christmas and a SEAT BEE
SATE<br>New Year! These thoughts now from John
Waters'<br>book "Crackpot" (both that and his "Shock Value" are
hilarious...)<br><br>"Of course you must MAKE your own cards by
hand.<br>'I don't have time,' you may whine, but since
the<br>whole purpose of life is Christmas, you better MAKE
time, buster. We Christmas zealots are
rather<br>demanding...One year I had a real cute idea. I bought a cheap
generic card of Joseph and Mary holding the Baby Jesus
and superimposed Charles Manson's face in place of
the homeless infant's. Inside I kept the message: 'He
is Born'."<br><br>--John Waters, "CRACKPOT"

Good day,<br>The newest issue of Psionic Plastic
Joy is now out. Featured in it's pages
are-<br><br>Interviews with-<br><br>our own Roscoe 235, rambling on
about interesting topics such as sound collage,
christianity, Discordia, tattooing, xerox, and mind
control.<br><br> Pine Tree State Mind Control (Noise group
specializing in subliminal manipulation in order to create
more productive workers)<br><br>Articles on-<br><br>
Thelema TV (The ultimate battle to decide who shall lead
humanity into the new aeon of the Crowned and conquering
Child, Horus! *cheers*)<br><br> Blind Authority
Manipulation Corporation (Neoist art distractions and fun with
the concept of individuality)<br><br>and Reviews of
Zines and Music<br>This rag can be had for
$1/stamps/trade<br><br>PO Box 138<br>Wilton, NH 03086

In case anyone's curious:<br>--the disco-ish
backing music heard during<br>"Helter Stupid" was a 1977
top 40 hit by<br>Sylvetti, "Spring Rain". It was
recently played during the syndicated "Lost 45s" radio
show<br>(<a href=http://www.lost45.com target=new>http://www.lost45.com</a>
--"Moribund Music of the<br>70s" or
what!)<br><br>--the opening Over the Edge theme is called<br>"12
O'Clock", by Vangelis<br><br>--the music that opens Crosley
Bendix's segments<br>is by Gershwin (forget
title)<br><br>--Some of the songs played by Pastor Dick
were<br>legitimate Christian records. "It's Contagious",<br>for
example, was by a group called H.I.S. Kids<br>(a
tape-trading service called the Mofo Outreach Ministry used to
offer it...they also did songs<br>like "When I Saw God
He Was A Vending Machine").<br><br>--The preacher
sampled during "Christianity is<br>Stupid" was Rev. Estus
Perkle (now deceased),<br>who talked in '68 of being
imprisoned during<br>the Korean War. "17 hours a day, from 5
O'clock<br>in the morning till ten o'clock at night...in<br>our
dreams we would hear, 'Christianity it<br>stupid,
Communism is good. Give up'."

Well, I can dub my OTE shows "at cost". It would
be 2 C90s (or maybe 3 C100s) per show, and
each<br>"show" would be $4 or $5...am not making a
profit,<br>just recouping my postage/tape/mailing
costs.<br>Contact me at shrinkingman@... if<br>interested.

I guess I'm just out of luck, because like I said, I only have TWO: Willsaphone,
and TZEP.

I already have Time Zones Exchange Project
CD,<br>as well as the OTE CDs Pastor Dick
(Muriel's<br>Purse Fund), The Starting Line, Willsaphone<br>Stupid
Show, and Jamcon 84...maybe you may have some OTEs I
don't have (again consult list, please)

The "N.W.W.S.S." (New Weird Willsaphone Stupid
Show) is one of the two OTE volumes that I have, so I
was happily surprised when I threw on my copy of "The
Weathermen" for the first time. I hadn't even thought about
it being the record they used, I just thought it
looked like a good one to sample from, and OBVIOUSLY I
was right! <br> I have Over the Edge volume 7, the
Time Zones Exchange Project and would be interested in
trading that for something you have (I didn't see it on
your list). <br><br> moel

>>Especially wacky for me was their dead-on
parody of a real radio character, Harold
Camping<br><br>On the OTE show "The J Brigade" (and also,
I<br>think, on their OTE CD "Pastor Dick: Muriel's<br>Purse
Fund"), there's a segment of Camping's<br>show where
Richard Lyons called up as Pastor<br>Dick and asked for
Camping's advice: should he<br>buy a "Hell Car" (a Dodge
Demon)? Don Joyce's<br>impersonation of Camping was right
on target.

May be interested in dubbing Over the Edge shows
from my collection in exchange for dubs of<br>whatever
you have (OTE shows). I have lots of<br>OTE shows,
plus stuff like the U2 single<br>and tapings of
Negland in Boston and Chicago.<br><br>OTEs I have:
Celebrity Night, Christianity is Stupid, Death Metal, Dick
Goodbody's Auto Party,<br>Dick Vaughn (orig. cass.), Fake
Bacon Society,<br>Helter Stupid, I'm Not Sure, J
Brigade, Lazy Weatherman, Let's Review, Let's Scare
Weatherman,<br>Music For Lawyers (I and II), Music is a
Crime,<br>Pastor Dick (orig. cass.), Piddle Diddle Disneyland,
Radio Wars, Sample Show, Weatherman<br>(orig. cass.),
Weatherman's Blind Date, Weatherman Was Here, We Are Driven,
Where Are We Now, Willsaphone Release Party, Year in
Review, <br>Personal Hygiene (Weatherman &
Silica-Gel)<br><br>shrinkingman@...

>>I came across a childrens' record in a
thrift store a couple of months ago called "The
Weathermen". <br><br>Someone in Negland must have it, too, as
this popped up on "The Willsaphone Stupid
Show"<br>("We Make Weather...") There have been other<br>song
tributes to the Weatherman, too, ranging<br>from the one
sung to the tune of "The Candy<br>Man" to the song
played over the credits of<br>the movie "Groundhog Day"
("...'cause I'm<br>your weatherman..."), which has also
gotten<br>played on Over the Edge

The ABCs of Anarchy (with Chumbawamba)<br>Happy
Heros (just for the OJ simpson samples alone!)<br>OTE -
Pastor Dick: Muriel's Purse Fund<br>OTE - Dick Vaughn's
moribund music of the 70s<br><br>If you can find "Fair
Use: The story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2" book
you'll have the history of the "U2 - Negativland" album
and why it was banned. It also comes with a full
length CD of original Negativland music. <br><br>Their
first self-titled album "Negativland" is pretty good,
but expect nothing like their music of later years.
Just alot of experimental noise.<br>"Points" isn't
that great (more noise). "Guns" is alright but nothing
too exciting. <br><br>Negativ(e)land (the live album)
is great, but their former label SST records put
this out without their permission, so I understand
that it's not something they like for that reason.