Jos, is there a logical reason to have "patch mode" without correct order. What
is the purpose to have patch mode if the instruments are mixed?
How can one sort 1300 voices?

Please let me know if you plan to have sorting of instruments by type in your
next update of the program or not.

I am extremely surprised that nobody in this forum mentioned this. Anybody has a
similar opinion?

Thank you
Mike.
--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@...> wrote:
>
> As I said before: that is not going to happen.
>
> Jos
>
> --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "mikeber@" <mikeber@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Jos.
> >
> > The patches are mixed because they are sorted by patch number  in patch
> > mode, They should sort by Patch name, after the "=" sign
> >
> > This is a part of your help file:
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------\
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > The number before the = sign is the patchnumber and is always numbered
> > from 0 to 127. Omissions of numbers are of course possible if your synth
> > does not have all the patches filled in this bank. The text after the
> > description is the name of the patch that will be visible in the patch
> > list in OMB. If the patches in your synth are numbered 1 to 128 then you
> > could define them as follows:
> >
> > 0=1 GrandPno
> > 1=2 BritePno
> > 2=3 E.Grand
> > 3=4 HnkyTonk
> > 4=5 E.Piano1
> > 5=6 E.Piano2
> > 6=7 Harpsi.
> > 7=8 Clavi.
> > 8=9 Celesta
> >
> > Now the text "1 GrandPno" etc. will be shown in OMB
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------\
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> > Righ now OMB sorts by patch number, before the "=" sign. That is why
> > instruments are mixed. What can I do to have instruments sorted by what
> > is after the "=" sign?
> >
> > Most of Yamaha instrument definitions look like that:
> >
> > 107=Or:Medieval Where "Or:" is the instrument type.
> >
> > Please let me know. I have spent many hours on this issue and would like
> > an answer very much.
> >
> > P.S. I am not a programmer, but I assume to change what I am asking for
> > is a one oe two lines of code. If resonable, I can pay to change that.
> >
> > �@
> >
> > Please let me know.
> >
> > �@
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Michael.
> >
> > --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > In patch mode they are sorted by patch first and then by bank.
> > > In bank mode they are sorted by bank first and then by patch.
> > >
> > > If you want to sort hem in another way, well that is not going to
> > happen. It may be an option in Cakewalk but it is not in OMB.
> > >
> > > Jos
> > >
> > > --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "mikeber@" mikeber@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jos.
> > > > Thank you for the reply, but I do not believe it answered my
> > question.
> > > > What exactly I should change in the file so that OMB reads patches
> > in instrument type order, In the patch selection menu, not the bank
> > selection menu?
> > > >
> > > > Banks displayed correctly in "BANKS" mode but when I switch to
> > "PATCHES" mode instruments are not sorted by type, they are mixed.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a photo, how they look like:
> > > >
> > > > http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu340/st2300/omb.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Here is a small part of my ins file. I would appriciate info on what
> > exactly I have to change to make patches be sorted by type.
> > > >
> > > > 124=Se:Telephone
> > > > 125=Se:Helicopter
> > > > 126=Se:Applause
> > > > 127=Se:Gunshot
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ;
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > .Note Names
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ;
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > .Instrument Definitions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [MotifRackESAll]
> > > > Patch[0]=Motif ES GM
> > > > Patch[8064]=Motif Rack ES Pre 1
> > > > Patch[8065]=Motif Rack ES Pre 2
> > > > Patch[8066]=Motif Rack ES Pre 3
> > > > Patch[8067]=Motif Rack ES Pre 4
> > > > Patch[8068]=Motif Rack ES Pre 5
> > > > Patch[8069]=Motif Rack ES Pre 6
> > > > Patch[8072]=Motif Rack ES User 1
> > > > Patch[8073]=Motif Rack ES User 2
> > > > Patch[8074]=Motif Rack ES User 3
> > > > Patch[8096]=Motif Rack ES Pre Drums
> > > > Patch[8104]=Motif Rack ES User Drums
> > > > Patch[16256]=Motif Rack ES GM Drums
> > > > Patch[*]=1..128
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Mikhail.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Patchrnr IS instrumenttype. That is the General MIDI standard (GM). The numbers
are assigned to 128 instruments and if you have more instruments in different
banks then they should always have the patchnumber thats is closest to its type.

If in your synth, completely different instruments have the same patchnumber,
then your synthesizer manufacturor has made a mess of this.

Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "mikeber@..." <mikeber@...> wrote:
>
> Jos, is there a logical reason to have "patch mode" without correct order.
What is the purpose to have patch mode if the instruments are mixed?
> How can one sort 1300 voices?
>
> Please let me know if you plan to have sorting of instruments by type in your
next update of the program or not.
>
> I am extremely surprised that nobody in this forum mentioned this. Anybody has
a similar opinion?
>
> Thank you
> Mike.
> --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@> wrote:
> >
> > As I said before: that is not going to happen.
> >
> > Jos
> >
> > --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "mikeber@" <mikeber@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Jos.
> > >
> > > The patches are mixed because they are sorted by patch number  in patch
> > > mode, They should sort by Patch name, after the "=" sign
> > >
> > > This is a part of your help file:
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------\
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > The number before the = sign is the patchnumber and is always numbered
> > > from 0 to 127. Omissions of numbers are of course possible if your synth
> > > does not have all the patches filled in this bank. The text after the
> > > description is the name of the patch that will be visible in the patch
> > > list in OMB. If the patches in your synth are numbered 1 to 128 then you
> > > could define them as follows:
> > >
> > > 0=1 GrandPno
> > > 1=2 BritePno
> > > 2=3 E.Grand
> > > 3=4 HnkyTonk
> > > 4=5 E.Piano1
> > > 5=6 E.Piano2
> > > 6=7 Harpsi.
> > > 7=8 Clavi.
> > > 8=9 Celesta
> > >
> > > Now the text "1 GrandPno" etc. will be shown in OMB
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------\
> > > ---------------------------------
> > >
> > > Righ now OMB sorts by patch number, before the "=" sign. That is why
> > > instruments are mixed. What can I do to have instruments sorted by what
> > > is after the "=" sign?
> > >
> > > Most of Yamaha instrument definitions look like that:
> > >
> > > 107=Or:Medieval Where "Or:" is the instrument type.
> > >
> > > Please let me know. I have spent many hours on this issue and would like
> > > an answer very much.
> > >
> > > P.S. I am not a programmer, but I assume to change what I am asking for
> > > is a one oe two lines of code. If resonable, I can pay to change that.
> > >
> > > �@
> > >
> > > Please let me know.
> > >
> > > �@
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Michael.
> > >
> > > --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In patch mode they are sorted by patch first and then by bank.
> > > > In bank mode they are sorted by bank first and then by patch.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to sort hem in another way, well that is not going to
> > > happen. It may be an option in Cakewalk but it is not in OMB.
> > > >
> > > > Jos
> > > >
> > > > --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "mikeber@" mikeber@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jos.
> > > > > Thank you for the reply, but I do not believe it answered my
> > > question.
> > > > > What exactly I should change in the file so that OMB reads patches
> > > in instrument type order, In the patch selection menu, not the bank
> > > selection menu?
> > > > >
> > > > > Banks displayed correctly in "BANKS" mode but when I switch to
> > > "PATCHES" mode instruments are not sorted by type, they are mixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a photo, how they look like:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu340/st2300/omb.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a small part of my ins file. I would appriciate info on what
> > > exactly I have to change to make patches be sorted by type.
> > > > >
> > > > > 124=Se:Telephone
> > > > > 125=Se:Helicopter
> > > > > 126=Se:Applause
> > > > > 127=Se:Gunshot
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ;
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > .Note Names
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ;
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > .Instrument Definitions
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [MotifRackESAll]
> > > > > Patch[0]=Motif ES GM
> > > > > Patch[8064]=Motif Rack ES Pre 1
> > > > > Patch[8065]=Motif Rack ES Pre 2
> > > > > Patch[8066]=Motif Rack ES Pre 3
> > > > > Patch[8067]=Motif Rack ES Pre 4
> > > > > Patch[8068]=Motif Rack ES Pre 5
> > > > > Patch[8069]=Motif Rack ES Pre 6
> > > > > Patch[8072]=Motif Rack ES User 1
> > > > > Patch[8073]=Motif Rack ES User 2
> > > > > Patch[8074]=Motif Rack ES User 3
> > > > > Patch[8096]=Motif Rack ES Pre Drums
> > > > > Patch[8104]=Motif Rack ES User Drums
> > > > > Patch[16256]=Motif Rack ES GM Drums
> > > > > Patch[*]=1..128
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Mikhail.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it and send me
back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard).

Would appreciate it,
Jos

just add I already did some testing for OMB originals and essential in windows
7, minor stability issues, but so far they are working.

Bye

Pedro Rozo.

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@...> wrote:
>
> Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
> The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it and send
me back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard).
>
> Would appreciate it,
> Jos
>

Joos,

I am playing with windows 7 and OMB since 2 weeks ago ... so I can help you,
just let me know what you need..  I will have some extra time for this topic in
this Christmas season

Bye,


Pedro Rozo.

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@...> wrote:
>
> Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
> The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it and send
me back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard).
>
> Would appreciate it,
> Jos
>

josmaas wrote:
>
>
> Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
> The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it
> and send me back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow
> Leopard).
>
> Would appreciate it,
> Jos
>
>
I've got snow leopard installed in my Mac and I'd be happy to test
whatever you like.

Vonvegas

Vonvegas,

Please send screenshot of the live window and the sequencer window to
josmaas@....

Thanks,
Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, vonvegas <vonvegas@...> wrote:
>
> josmaas wrote:
> >
> >
> > Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
> > The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it
> > and send me back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow
> > Leopard).
> >
> > Would appreciate it,
> > Jos
> >
> >
> I've got snow leopard installed in my Mac and I'd be happy to test
> whatever you like.
>
> Vonvegas
>

Thanks Pedro, I will send you a testset.

Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "pedrohrozo" <mail@...> wrote:
>
> Joos,
>
> I am playing with windows 7 and OMB since 2 weeks ago ... so I can help you,
just let me know what you need..  I will have some extra time for this topic in
this Christmas season
>
> Bye,
>
>
> Pedro Rozo.
>
> --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@> wrote:
> >
> > Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
> > The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it and
send me back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard).
> >
> > Would appreciate it,
> > Jos
> >
>

Is it possible to convert Yamaha PSR or Tyros styles to Motif ES. Anyone know of
any utility program to do this.  Or someone could provide file format layout of
Motif ES pattern file I could perhaps look into converting it myself.
Any help or comments will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

If you want to negotiate a business deal, the proper way to do that would be
outside this public forum.

Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, Mike Ber <mikeber@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jos.
> How much do you want to make this minor adjustment so program sorts
instruments by what comes after the "=" sign?
>
> Regards,
> Mike.
>
>  
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: josmaas <josmaas@...>
> To: onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 3:54:10 AM
> Subject: [onemanbandgroup] Re: Instrument definition file Cakewalk vs OMB need
help.
>
>  
> Patchrnr IS instrumenttype.. That is the General MIDI standard (GM). The
numbers are assigned to 128 instruments and if you have more instruments in
different banks then they should always have the patchnumber thats is closest to
its type.
>
> If in your synth, completely different instruments have the same patchnumber,
then your synthesizer manufacturor has made a mess of this.
>
> Jos
>
> --- In onemanbandgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "mikeber@ " <mikeber@ > wrote:
> >
> > Jos, is there a logical reason to have "patch mode" without correct order.
What is the purpose to have patch mode if the instruments are mixed?
> > How can one sort 1300 voices?
> >
> > Please let me know if you plan to have sorting of instruments by type in
your next update of the program or not.
> >
> > I am extremely surprised that nobody in this forum mentioned this. Anybody
has a similar opinion?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Mike.
> > --- In onemanbandgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "josmaas" <josmaas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As I said before: that is not going to happen.
> > >
> > > Jos
> > >
> > > --- In onemanbandgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "mikeber@" <mikeber@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jos.
> > > >
> > > > The patches are mixed because they are sorted by patch number in patch
> > > > mode, They should sort by Patch name, after the "=" sign
> > > >
> > > > This is a part of your help file:
> > > >
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------
> > > >
> > > > The number before the = sign is the patchnumber and is always numbered
> > > > from 0 to 127. Omissions of numbers are of course possible if your synth
> > > > does not have all the patches filled in this bank. The text after the
> > > > description is the name of the patch that will be visible in the patch
> > > > list in OMB. If the patches in your synth are numbered 1 to 128 then you
> > > > could define them as follows:
> > > >
> > > > 0=1 GrandPno
> > > > 1=2 BritePno
> > > > 2=3 E.Grand
> > > > 3=4 HnkyTonk
> > > > 4=5 E.Piano1
> > > > 5=6 E.Piano2
> > > > 6=7 Harpsi.
> > > > 7=8 Clavi.
> > > > 8=9 Celesta
> > > >
> > > > Now the text "1 GrandPno" etc. will be shown in OMB
> > > >
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -\
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---
> > > >
> > > > Righ now OMB sorts by patch number, before the "=" sign. That is why
> > > > instruments are mixed. What can I do to have instruments sorted by what
> > > > is after the "=" sign?
> > > >
> > > > Most of Yamaha instrument definitions look like that:
> > > >
> > > > 107=Or:Medieval Where "Or:" is the instrument type.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know. I have spent many hours on this issue and would like
> > > > an answer very much.
> > > >
> > > > P.S. I am not a programmer, but I assume to change what I am asking for
> > > > is a one oe two lines of code. If resonable, I can pay to change that.
> > > >
> > > > 　
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > 　
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Michael.
> > > >
> > > > --- In onemanbandgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "josmaas" <josmaas@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In patch mode they are sorted by patch first and then by bank.
> > > > > In bank mode they are sorted by bank first and then by patch.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want to sort hem in another way, well that is not going to
> > > > happen. It may be an option in Cakewalk but it is not in OMB.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jos
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In onemanbandgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "mikeber@" mikeber@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jos.
> > > > > > Thank you for the reply, but I do not believe it answered my
> > > > question.
> > > > > > What exactly I should change in the file so that OMB reads patches
> > > > in instrument type order, In the patch selection menu, not the bank
> > > > selection menu?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Banks displayed correctly in "BANKS" mode but when I switch to
> > > > "PATCHES" mode instruments are not sorted by type, they are mixed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is a photo, how they look like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://i661. photobucket. com/albums/ uu340/st2300/ omb..jpg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is a small part of my ins file. I would appriciate info on what
> > > > exactly I have to change to make patches be sorted by type.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 124=Se:Telephone
> > > > > > 125=Se:Helicopter
> > > > > > 126=Se:Applause
> > > > > > 127=Se:Gunshot
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ;
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .Note Names
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ;
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .Instrument Definitions
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [MotifRackESAll]
> > > > > > Patch[0]=Motif ES GM
> > > > > > Patch[8064]= Motif Rack ES Pre 1
> > > > > > Patch[8065]= Motif Rack ES Pre 2
> > > > > > Patch[8066]= Motif Rack ES Pre 3
> > > > > > Patch[8067]= Motif Rack ES Pre 4
> > > > > > Patch[8068]= Motif Rack ES Pre 5
> > > > > > Patch[8069]= Motif Rack ES Pre 6
> > > > > > Patch[8072]= Motif Rack ES User 1
> > > > > > Patch[8073]= Motif Rack ES User 2
> > > > > > Patch[8074]= Motif Rack ES User 3
> > > > > > Patch[8096]= Motif Rack ES Pre Drums
> > > > > > Patch[8104]= Motif Rack ES User Drums
> > > > > > Patch[16256] =Motif Rack ES GM Drums
> > > > > > Patch[*]=1.. 128
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > Mikhail.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi,

I got the OMB just few days ago. I try to use the tone directly from Roland
keyboard and wonder how to do it.

Thanks!

Charles

Hi Alberto, I'll send you a testset.

Jos


--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Alberto Odor" <alberto@...> wrote:
>
> I do have windows 7. I can help you if you still need help.
>
>
>
> Alberto Odor
>
>
>
> From: josmaas [mailto:josmaas@...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:06 AM
> To: onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [onemanbandgroup] Windows 7 and OMB
>
>
>
>
>
> Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
> The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it and
> send me back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard).
>
> Would appreciate it,
> Jos
>

I'll send you the testset too.

Thanks,
Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, Charles Kung <ckung@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have Windows 7 also. Please let me know if I can be any help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Charles
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "josmaas" <josmaas@...>
To: <onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [onemanbandgroup] Windows 7 and OMB


> Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
> The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it and
> send me back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard).


If you should still need testing help:

I have just bought a computer with 64-bits Windows 7 (EN).
Note: this computer is to be my graphics screamer, so no other MIDI stuff
will be installed.

--
Chris Laarman

Still need all the help I can get on Windows 7.

Thanks,
Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Laarman" <v.c.laarman@...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "josmaas" <josmaas@...>
> To: <onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:06 PM
> Subject: [onemanbandgroup] Windows 7 and OMB
>
>
> > Who has Windows 7 (I don't) and is willing to help me with some tests?
> > The tests would involve installing some software that I send, run it and
> > send me back the result. Same request for Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard).
>
>
> If you should still need testing help:
>
> I have just bought a computer with 64-bits Windows 7 (EN).
> Note: this computer is to be my graphics screamer, so no other MIDI stuff
> will be installed.
>
> --
> Chris Laarman
>

Hi, everyone, and happy new 2010 !

For the first time, I am experimenting with using 2 input keyboards at the same
time, with a third keyboard acting as output hard-synth.

At the moment, I'm working in the classic OMB, and its sequencer window - my
first objective would be to 'duet' the two input keyboards with different sounds
assigned to each. So far, I've got both keyboards working as simultaneous
inputs, but obviously both are 'voicing' as the same sound/combination of sounds
set up in the sequencer.

http://www.1manband.nl/tutorials2/setting.htm  says: "You can select more than
one MIDI In port, all MIDI messages from different ports will be merged."
That's what I've got at the moment.

Is there any means, within the whole range of 'Maas' softwares, of separating
the inputs from the two input keyboards, and assigning them to different
tracks/channels/patches for the output synth ?

Hoping......

Ian G.

Hi Ian,

Have the two input keyboards send on different channels, that should do the
trick.

Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ian781614" <idgraham@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, everyone, and happy new 2010 !
>
> For the first time, I am experimenting with using 2 input keyboards at the
same time, with a third keyboard acting as output hard-synth.
>
> At the moment, I'm working in the classic OMB, and its sequencer window - my
first objective would be to 'duet' the two input keyboards with different sounds
assigned to each. So far, I've got both keyboards working as simultaneous
inputs, but obviously both are 'voicing' as the same sound/combination of sounds
set up in the sequencer.
>
> http://www.1manband.nl/tutorials2/setting.htm  says: "You can select more than
one MIDI In port, all MIDI messages from different ports will be merged."
> That's what I've got at the moment.
>
> Is there any means, within the whole range of 'Maas' softwares, of separating
the inputs from the two input keyboards, and assigning them to different
tracks/channels/patches for the output synth ?
>
> Hoping......
>
> Ian G.
>

LiveWhat?

;)

Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, Johnny Banco <johnny.banco@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone comment on why someone should by OneManBand verses a similar style
playing product called LiveStyler.  There seems to more features in OMB but am
looking for a one very strong reason to buy one over the other. 
> Josmaas, you could perhaps comment as well as it is your product and provide
one heavy reason to tip the scale.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>  
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: josmaas <josmaas@...>
> To: onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 2:19:04 AM
> Subject: [onemanbandgroup] Re: Is it possible to use 2 input keyboards
independently of each other ?
>
>  
> Hi Ian,
>
> Have the two input keyboards send on different channels, that should do the
trick.
>
> Jos
>
> --- In onemanbandgroup@ yahoogroups. com, "ian781614" <idgraham@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, everyone, and happy new 2010 !
> >
> > For the first time, I am experimenting with using 2 input keyboards at the
same time, with a third keyboard acting as output hard-synth.
> >
> > At the moment, I'm working in the classic OMB, and its sequencer window - my
first objective would be to 'duet' the two input keyboards with different sounds
assigned to each. So far, I've got both keyboards working as simultaneous
inputs, but obviously both are 'voicing' as the same sound/combination of sounds
set up in the sequencer.
> >
> > http://www.1manband.nl/tutorials2/setting.htm says: "You can select more
than one MIDI In port, all MIDI messages from different ports will be merged."
> > That's what I've got at the moment.
> >
> > Is there any means, within the whole range of 'Maas' softwares, of
separating the inputs from the two input keyboards, and assigning them to
different tracks/channels/ patches for the output synth ?
> >
> > Hoping......
> >
> > Ian G.
> >
>

Jos
I was grateful for your reply, but I've had to dig our the manuals for the two
(both rather elderly) keyboards in question to see if I could do what you
advised. That's why I haven't replied sooner.

The case seems to be that on one I can't, but on the other I can, and one
presumably should be enough.
So I've got one sending on Channel 1 and the other on Channel 3 (but it could be
any, if it made a difference). In OMB, the 'View Midi In' screen is confirming
that is happening.

Now, I want to use (output) sounds from a third keyboard. As you know, from the
Sequencer window, it's easy to set up layered/blended patches, and that is still
working OK.
But I still have no separation between the two input keyboards. If I have
patches set and active on say tracks 1, 2 and 3 of the Sequencer, input from
either/both keyboards both sounds all three.

Is there anything I can do in OMB to separate and duet the two inputs? Or if
not, in any of your other softwares ?

Sincerely


Ian G.

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Have the two input keyboards send on different channels, that should do the
trick.
>
> Jos
>
> --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ian781614" <idgraham@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, everyone, and happy new 2010 !
> >
> > For the first time, I am experimenting with using 2 input keyboards at the
same time, with a third keyboard acting as output hard-synth.
> >
> > At the moment, I'm working in the classic OMB, and its sequencer window - my
first objective would be to 'duet' the two input keyboards with different sounds
assigned to each. So far, I've got both keyboards working as simultaneous
inputs, but obviously both are 'voicing' as the same sound/combination of sounds
set up in the sequencer.
> >
> > http://www.1manband.nl/tutorials2/setting.htm  says: "You can select more
than one MIDI In port, all MIDI messages from different ports will be merged."
> > That's what I've got at the moment.
> >
> > Is there any means, within the whole range of 'Maas' softwares, of
separating the inputs from the two input keyboards, and assigning them to
different tracks/channels/patches for the output synth ?
> >
> > Hoping......
> >
> > Ian G.
> >
>

Ian,

Check the Multi option in the sequencer window. Now each channel will only play
the instrument listed on the corresponding line.

Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ian781614" <idgraham@...> wrote:
>
> Jos
> I was grateful for your reply, but I've had to dig our the manuals for the two
(both rather elderly) keyboards in question to see if I could do what you
advised. That's why I haven't replied sooner.
>
> The case seems to be that on one I can't, but on the other I can, and one
presumably should be enough.
> So I've got one sending on Channel 1 and the other on Channel 3 (but it could
be any, if it made a difference). In OMB, the 'View Midi In' screen is
confirming that is happening.
>
> Now, I want to use (output) sounds from a third keyboard. As you know, from
the Sequencer window, it's easy to set up layered/blended patches, and that is
still working OK.
> But I still have no separation between the two input keyboards. If I have
patches set and active on say tracks 1, 2 and 3 of the Sequencer, input from
either/both keyboards both sounds all three.
>
> Is there anything I can do in OMB to separate and duet the two inputs? Or if
not, in any of your other softwares ?
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> Ian G.
>
> --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "josmaas" <josmaas@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ian,
> >
> > Have the two input keyboards send on different channels, that should do the
trick.
> >
> > Jos
> >
> > --- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "ian781614" <idgraham@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, everyone, and happy new 2010 !
> > >
> > > For the first time, I am experimenting with using 2 input keyboards at the
same time, with a third keyboard acting as output hard-synth.
> > >
> > > At the moment, I'm working in the classic OMB, and its sequencer window -
my first objective would be to 'duet' the two input keyboards with different
sounds assigned to each. So far, I've got both keyboards working as simultaneous
inputs, but obviously both are 'voicing' as the same sound/combination of sounds
set up in the sequencer.
> > >
> > > http://www.1manband.nl/tutorials2/setting.htm  says: "You can select more
than one MIDI In port, all MIDI messages from different ports will be merged."
> > > That's what I've got at the moment.
> > >
> > > Is there any means, within the whole range of 'Maas' softwares, of
separating the inputs from the two input keyboards, and assigning them to
different tracks/channels/patches for the output synth ?
> > >
> > > Hoping......
> > >
> > > Ian G.
> > >
> >
>

Ian,

You'll have two choose between single with layers or multi without layers. You
might experiment with three instances of OMB where the first (multi) instance
has the MIDI-out for two channels connected thru MidiYoke or LoopBe with the
MIDI-in of each of the other (single) instances. Specify no instrument on the
first instance. It's a complicated setup but it might work.

Jos

--- In onemanbandgroup@yahoogroups.com, "IAN GRAHAM" <idgraham@...> wrote:
>
> Jos and all
>
> Duh! I missed an obvious control with the multi-check box. So maybe I'm still
missing something else ?
>
> OK, so I set one keyboard to send on a channel other than 1.
> I open OMB Original in the Sequencer window.
> I set Midi-in to use both keyboards, and check 'multi'.
> I set a patch for channel one (one keyboard in) and another for the other
channel in (other keyboard in).
> And bingo! I have two keyboards duetting. Thanks, Jos !
>
> BUT
> maybe I'm not getting how the TO column (with 'Multi' checked) works.
> I figured that in order to layer patches, I need to pass (say) the signal from
channel 1 through to other channels.
> So I set 'To' on the channel 1 row to 2.
> On the channel two row I set a different patch.
> Obviously I've got something right, because now I hear the patch on set on
channel 2 - but no longer that set on channel 1.
> Channel 1 is no longer speaking ?
>
> Is it possible to layer, or can I have only one patch per midi-in ? Would MPL
help me here ? Or Midi-Yoke?
>
> Sincerely
>
> Ian G.
>

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