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Pat Metheny and Norah Jones: VINDICATION   Message List  
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Re: [Pat Metheny] Re: Pat Metheny and Norah Jones: VINDICATION

No need to get so nasty, don't write anymore if you are going to blow a fuse
over it.

michael_crutcher2002 <Funkifized@...> wrote:--- In
patmetheny@yahoogroups.com, "munchen008" <munchen008@y...>
wrote:
> It seems Pat Metheny has no problem collaberating with Norah Jones.
> On his latest album: "One Quiet Night", he does a cover of "Don't
> Know Why". I realize this is not quite collaberation, it
definitely
> proves my point. I still would like to hear her sing while he does
> the instrumental work. So far I haven't been wrong about this.

Oh, is that so? Could you point us to the collaboration that proves
you right? Could you show me the quote from Pat Metheny that says
he'd like to play back-up musician to a pop star? Maybe something
from him that says "When I composed "First Circle" I wanted to write
something that had this 12/8 feel alternating with 10/8, with
harmonies that extend quite a bit outside one tonality. Well,
actually, what I really wanted to do was play pop music on the top 40
with a female pop star that's half my age and wouldn't stand a chance
of understanding my music."

Pat Metheny is a *jazz musician*. Norah Jones is a *pop singer*. At
times, Pat likes to do something melodic and simple, but for the
majority of what he does, he plays complex harmonies and experiments
with different textures and instrumentation. Norah Jones sings nice
melodies. Pat obviously decided to cover her tune because it's a very
strong melody and he likes it. Ever play the tune? Pat hasn't played
a tune with such simple changes, probably ever. Why is that? Because
he's a *jazz musician*. You may also notice that he covered "Ferry
Across The Mersey". Does that mean he should, or wants to,
collaborate with Gerry & The Pacemakers?

Let's put this in context: Pat has publicly declared that he wouldn't
do a project like the Joni Mitchell tour/recording ever again. He
obviously has no desire to "back up" a pop singer. What is this
obsession with putting him into an unfamiliar, uncomfortable
situation?

Herbie Hancock covered a Kurt Cobain tune, on his "New Standard"
disc. Would you like to make a case that Herbie should have
collaborated with Cobain? George Benson covered "California
Dreaming", as did Wes Montgomery. Are you picturing them getting
onstage with the Mamas & The Papas? Jimi Hendrix
covered "Daytripper". Oh, yeah, Hendrix was certainly the 5th Beatle,
wasn't he?

Hmmm, Pat's guitar sound was particularly heavy and distortion-driven
on "Half Life Of Absolution". Maybe he should think about
collaborating with Metallica, no?

Norah Jones sings and plays some beautiful tunes. However, she's not
on Pat Metheny's level. Deal with it.

Vindication, my ass.


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Wed Jul 9, 2003 5:41 pm

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It seems Pat Metheny has no problem collaberating with Norah Jones. On his latest album: "One Quiet Night", he does a cover of "Don't Know Why". I realize...
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... definitely ... Oh, is that so? Could you point us to the collaboration that proves you right? Could you show me the quote from Pat Metheny that says he'd...
michael_crutcher2002
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Jul 9, 2003
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No need to get so nasty, don't write anymore if you are going to blow a fuse over it. michael_crutcher2002 <Funkifized@...> wrote:--- In...
Bruce Owens
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Jul 9, 2003
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I don't get this Norah Jones/Pat Metheny fixation? Who gives a shit? If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Why waste so much time...
John
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Jul 9, 2003
6:14 pm

I don't understand it, either. It's about as likely as a Metheny/Metallica collaboration. along with being a seasoned Metheny fan, I happen to be a big fan of...
michael_crutcher2002
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Jul 9, 2003
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Perhaps people have short memories; what about the collaboration with Isreali singer Noa? http://www.ondarock.it/Noa_eng.html Sppoky resemblence to Norah...
Ben Ward
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Nov 8, 2004
12:55 pm

I ran out and bought the new cd after hearing "Ferry cross the merise" (sp?), because I always liked that silly song. I have to admit the rest of the cd, was...
PAM HENDERSON
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Jul 9, 2003
11:03 pm

Thank you, to be honest I have no idea why some of the people in this club are getting so upset about my mentioning Norah Jones. I brought it up as just a...
Bruce Owens
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Jul 14, 2003
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No worries, Dude. John ... From: Bruce Owens To: patmetheny@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Pat Metheny] Pats new cd (was...
John
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Jul 16, 2003
9:46 pm

Anyone have an opinon of this cd? I never really liked it, eexcept for the first song. I thought I had lost it, but recently found it when I was cleaning out...
PAM HENDERSON
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Jul 16, 2003
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Thank you. John <soulfulnotes@...> wrote:No worries, Dude. John ... From: Bruce Owens To: patmetheny@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:43...
Bruce Owens
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Jul 17, 2003
2:27 pm

No need to tell me what to do. Don't read the e-mail if you don't like what I've got to say. If you're going to keep pushing asinine ideas and claim that you...
michael_crutcher2002
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Jul 9, 2003
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One of the things that I have always admired about musicians like Pat is that he is not afraid to go into non-purist territory. I always really liked his...
John
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Jul 11, 2003
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I actually really like his acoustic playing, too. I actually like some of the music on this disc quite a bit, in a way. I just don't think it's worthy of a...
michael_crutcher2002
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Jul 11, 2003
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For those of you who have been listening to Pat Metheny since the very beginning (at least his days with Gary Burton), you'll probably recognize something...
jrcheek
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Jul 14, 2003
3:43 pm

I haven't heard it. I'll look into it. I have liked almost all of Lyle's solo work, as well as his playing with others. He has played on several of Eberhard...
John
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