Is there more than one cover to this book?? I've seemed to have seen two
very slightly different covers so far. Thanks.


  Kevin

I just received this book yesterday. And I just got Magnification last
week. (neither of which is yet avaiable in the U.S. of course & the book
at this point may never be!) So suffice it to say it was a good week!
LOL This is the fourth or fifth Yesbook I have. The others are Yes, But
What Does It Mean, Yesstories & Close To the Edge. I might be leaving
one out. And it's only the second Yesbook I've ever seen with the
original Yeslogo on the cover too. I also can't believe that ths big
book with all the pics & reading is cheaper than one of their tour
programs; pretty ironic. LOL My only complaint is that not more color
photos, but regardless, there's a ton. And it looks like Wakeman himself
highly endorses this book too. Hope everybody's having a nice weekend.


                                           Kevin

No,  the last we got from the publishers was "4-8" weeks or some similar
answer but that was about four weeks ago . . .

I have e-mailed them again this morning and I'll let everyone know what
I get back.  It really is purely in their hands now.

Simon.

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Hello, does anyone one know if David Watkinson's book "Perpetual Change" has
been released yet in the USA?

Thanks,
John

An update from David . . .

November update
Hi everyone, well its good to see all the kind reviews coming in about
the book and thank you for your telephone calls as well. After all the
hard work its comforting to know that I achieved my aim in creating what
I believe is the best Yes book to date, thanks. Well flyers were given
out at the Sweden Yes fan gathering on 6th NOVEMBER event out there.
If you would like me to sign your copy of your book I shall be at the
following UK events:-

THE ROGER DEAN EXHIBITION, 12 NOVEMBER (London)
(I recently visited the Anne Sudworth's art exhibition (artist for
Rick's son's album cover) and urge you to check out her work, she is
very talented)

BILL BRUFORD, 15 NOVEMBER Brighton gig

UK YES TOUR
I will be handing out flyers for the book at these gigs in December,
signing copies if you see me and possibly signing copies in the various
book shops in each town:-

BRIGHTON 1 DEC
BIRMINGHAM 2 DEC
LONDON  4 / 5 DEC (Tower Records - wait for the times)
CARDIFF  7 DEC
NOTTINGHAM 8 DEC

Yescapade is OFF, not enough fans signed up for it, big shame I was
looking
forward to it. Are there any fans for the gigs up north willing to hand
out
flyers for me at the gigs, the ones I cant get to?

I am looking into selling copies that are signed through the web site,
will
keep you informed.

The proposed US Tower signing events don't look on anymore which is a
shame as I have always wanted to meet the Yes fans out there.  Well
after many years of trying you wont be able to buy the book on the Yes
tour either here in the UK or in the US, sorry, I did try.

I visited Roger Dean this week to give him his copy of the book and to
return to him his huge collection of negatives he kindly loaned to me, I
was privileged to have had these in my possession for so long it was
exciting to see them all, mainly Yes in 1973 on Tour in Japan. Roger
said he was very busy with many projects on the go and was preparing for
the exhibition which is the first one in London since about 1975.
I am again selling some of my music collection on Ebay.com so if you are
interested in memorabilia by Yes and other bands please do check the
collectibles section out, you may like something. Enjoy the book, see
you soon oh soon.
David Watkinson
--
Fragile - The UK's Yes Tribute Band
http://www.yestribute.com/

I just wanted to say I have gotten the book and I think it is excellant. My only
wish is that there were more color photos...especially the live shots.

Dave

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Me to but if you are selling it how much

--- In perpetualchange@y..., Steven Sullivan <sullivan@g...> wrote:
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> You're giving them away?  Sure, send me one.
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Greetings!
Sorry to trouble you guys (& gals?),
but can you tell me if there any Yes Yahoo
(or other) groups/mail-lists???

(I used to work for Worldwide,
Yes's management - in 1972-74)

MTIA

Bill Turner.
London, UK.

You're giving them away?  Sure, send me one.


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Incredible show
Re-equalized and remastered
Interested?

When is this book coming out?

Diane Swible


-----Original Message-----
From: STuPiD [mailto:ycantibu@...]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:57 AM
To: perpetualchange@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [perpetualchange] trevor rabin


Just a quick question about the book: is it going to basically gloss
over the Trevor Rabin era?  I need this information before I buy the
book.



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Just a quick question about the book: is it going to basically gloss
over the Trevor Rabin era?  I need this information before I buy the
book.

Lots of news in this update!

	 - UK release in September
	 - Competition deadline extended
	 - Foreword written by Rick Wakeman
	 - Book launch at Yescapade

UK Release in September
=======================

The latest and exciting news that we have from the publishers Plexus is
that the printers are now officially booked! Apparently the earliest
that they could be scheduled was late in August so all being well it
looks as though Perpetual Change will hit the UK bookstores in the first
week of September!! It's not clear how long it will be for the US
release after that but as soon as we have some news we will let you
know.

Competition Deadline Extended
=============================

To celebrate we have extended the closing date for the competition until
the end of August. The quality of the answers coming back has taken us
by surprise with far more people finding fifty tracks than we had
envisaged. Some have even found the "extras" in there! However, the test
was to find fifty unique tracks so anyone with that number or more
correct answers will be entered into the final draw!

Foreword by Rick Wakeman
=========================

From David . . .

Hello everyone I have some great news that I am very excited about, yet
another of my long-term goals for the book has been achieved. I have an
exclusive, Rick Wakeman has supplied the foreword for it. You will have
to wait to see it for your self but it's a good one and unmistakably by
Rick!

Book to feature at Yescapade
============================

From David . . .

The official book launch release party in the US will be on July 28TH at
'Yescapade', I will be sending them a copy of the cover, promotional
flyers that are pre-order forms too, a photo and a tape of myself
talking about the book. I don't think the book will get there in time
but at least everyone will be up to date with the contents. It sounds
like a great event I'm sorry I cant be with everyone.

Cheers, Simon.

Good luck! Simon.
--
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http://www.yestribute.com/

Latest from David . . . it's getting close now . . .

Simon.

Hello all, Well it's looking just great, the bulk of the book is in
black &
white with a colour section in the middle, it is right up to date with
2001
tour dates and the new album cover coming any day now, we may call it
YES-PERPETUAL CHANGE 1968-2001. It has nearer 200 pages and is much
bigger
than we planned content wise. Full of images.....WOW just as I had
imagined
it, it's a book you will pick up all the time and read or just skip
through
to your fave year. Well I'm off to Plexus today to chat and sort this
and
that out, it's funny seeing it as a book at last.it's been so long to
put
together but at the end of the day I did it for all you fans out there
who
love this band.

I went to see Roger Dean on monday to show him the book and he is about
to
start an exhibition in New York soon, details to follow, a Yes EP will
be
coming out soon as well.

I do hope you have a go at the new quiz it's a bit of fun and you do get
some good stuff for nowt (nothing) sorry the Bolton twang was coming out
then. End of July is the date of release.

Cheers

David Watkinson
--
Fragile - The UK's Yes Tribute Band
http://www.yestribute.com/

To celebrate the forthcoming release of "Perpetual Change" David
Watkinson has decided to give away a personally signed copy of the book
as well as a number of items of Yes memorabilia.  All you have to do to
win them is find fifty Yes related tracks horizontally in a word grid
which can be found on the book's website;

http://www.yesbook.net/

The lucky winner, to be drawn at random, will receive not only the
signed copy of the book but also the following Yes related items from
David's collection;

  - Yes The Ladder enhanced CD with demo's, PC game, Screensaver and
interview, still sealed.
  - Yes Open Your Eyes flyer
  - Yes Homeworld tour flyer
  - Yes The Ladder flyer
  - Steve Howe CD Quantum Guitar, as new
  - Original full page B/W add for Chris Squires house for sale where
Relayer was recorded
  - Rick Wakeman 7" singles Julia & I'm So Straight I'm A Weirdo + an 8
track cassette of White Rock
  - A quality colour copy of an Japanese add for CTTE album 1970's

The competition is open to everyone regardless of where they live!

Cheers, Simon.

PS The publisher tells us that the book is likely out in July!
--
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http://www.yestribute.com/

Click on the link for more information

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1439589413

Andy

After all this time it looks very positively as if the book could be
hitting the bookshelves this July so that it is available for the
planned US tour - let's keep our fingers crossed :-)

I have just put a couple of updates from David on the website
including the latest on the book publication and for anyone who hasn't
heard, news of a new Asia biography which is now for sale by Dave
Gallant.

Waiting for the moment . . .

Simon.

Hi everyone!

I've just posted the latest from David up on the website.  The long
and short of it is that the book isn't progressing through the
publishers anything like as fast as anyone would like.  Unfortunately
a lot of places indicate the book as being available which is still
misleading.

The publishers themselves have been distracted by some major book
fairs recently but one poor soul has spent some considerable time
scanning in no less than 400 items (photos and memorabilia) from
David's collection ready for the book.

The current plan direct from Plexus is that they intend to make the
book ready in time for the Yes tour of the States which of course
would mean July being the release date.  We'll keep you posted.

As you may have seen on the website David has decided to auction off
parts of his collection through eBay.  The items will flow gradually
for the rest of this year, there is a link to David's auctions on the
book website if you are interested. http://www.yesbook.net/

In the meantime for those of you lucky enough to be able to attend a
show or two this Summer please raise a cheer for me and I hope that
they finally start playing "South Side of the Sky"!

Take care, Simon.
Fragile - The UK's Yes Tribute Band
http://www.yestribute.com/

Hi everyone!

Slightly later than promised I have updated the website with some great
new details about the book.  I have taken advantage of some spare time
that I had to outline the structure of the book including a description
of each of the three main sections; Yes History, Yes Live and Yes
Collectables.  You can now get a much better idea of what the book is
all about.

David has asked me to pass on his best wishes for the New Year and
thanks for your continuing interest in the book.

In case you've lost the site address here it is; http://www.yesbook.net/

Cheers, Simon.
--
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http://www.yestribute.com/

The StupidFrog
"One Minute Movie Review #4"
http://www.stupidfrog.com/Galleries/FrogLickers/OneMinute4.HTM

This week of reviews include:
"The Grinch"
"102 Dalmatians"
"Unbreakable"

For all you YES and Rick Wakeman fans out there... a VERY SPECIAL
holiday review:
On Video
"Lisztomania!"  (Rated R)

Also....
A Longer Than One Minute Editorial on Movie Etiquette:  "Shut The Hell
Up!"

Very Unique. I'm a chronic Yes-head and their shows
are always great. Thanks for lettin' me take a peek!

Perpetual Change, Indeed,
     ari
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> able to snap off a
> couple of pictures of Steve if anyone wants to take
> a look.
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Last Friday night was a wonderful concert! I was able to snap off a
couple of pictures of Steve if anyone wants to take a look.

http://www.stupidfrog.com/Galleries/HipHop/SteveHowe.HTM

Hi Everyone, I tried to put this update out last week but failed somehow
. . . anyway here it is!

I have just put the latest news on the book from David up on the
website, it's been hard work but the text has gone on time to the
publishers which I think shocked them a bit.  In fact the band
themselves have been spotted reading the book on the current tour we're
told.

I think that now comes the really hard part as David has to choose which
pictures he's going to include AND of course gets to make the changes
that the publisher requests to the text!

Cheers, Simon.
--
Fragile - The UK's Yes Tribute Band
http://homepages.which.net/~simon.arnold1/fragile.htm

Hi Everyone!

I have just put the latest news on the book from David up on the
website. The latest is that it's been hard work but the text has gone
on time to the publishers which I think shocked them a bit.  In fact
the band themselves have been spotted reading the book on the current
tour we're told.

I think that now comes the really hard part as David has to choose
which pictures he's going to include AND of course gets to make the
changes that the publisher requests to the text!

Cheers, Simon.

Fragile, The UK's Yes tribute Band
http://www.yestribute.com/

Hi again everyone, and welcome to those who have joined since the
last
update.

I have just posted the latest message from David to the website about
the progress on the book.  Time is certainly tight at the moment but
from what I have seen of the book to date it is going really well.
It's a nerve-wracking time as the publishers will soon give their
feedback on the work in progress . . .

David has completed a number of interviews with band members, current
and past and there are some very interesting snippets in them.  The
only problem is that the work on the book is precluding us from
flying
over to see the Masterworks tour.  We hope those of you that have the
chance to go have a fantastic time!

Cheers, Simon.

Hi all,

Thanks again for showing your interest in the book, David sent me the
following update to share with you...  Cheers, Simon.

Hi,

Thank you for your interest in the book I'm still working hard on the
project, surrounding myself in this Yesworld every day for as many hours
I can. After a long period of tracking down material, this week I pulled
together a whole section on Yes collectables. This shows various pieces
of information with comments and facts on areas such as merchandise
bootlegs, radio shows and more. Only the other day I had a call giving
me details about pre -Yes gig dates, as someone found 50 + marquee
flyers, previously undocumented they will be added to the pre - Yes gig
listings I have compiled that haven't been seen before. I received a
great parcel today containing picture negatives from a keen admirer of
Yes for many years. Negatives of gigs and rehearsals from the years
1978, 80, 84, 89 and 91.

Contributions this month came from some key Yes associates. Michael Tait
the Yes lighting supremo for 15 years, comments on Yesshows, a roady
from the great 1973-4 tour of the UK gives insights into Rick's
Topographic era, Steve Howe chatted about Yes in 2000 and Geoff Downes
gave some feedback from his time in the band.

Don't forget to pick up your copy of the Record Collector magazine out
this week in the UK with the big Yes feature in it. I am still looking
for very good photographs of Yes from any era, plus interesting
memorabilia can you help me?

That's about it for now, keep Yessing.

David Watkinson

--
Fragile - The UK's Yes Tribute Band
http://yestribute.com/
Perpetual Change - A Visual History of Yes
http://yesbook.net/

Hi everyone,

Thanks for showing your interest in the book by signing up to this
mailing list!  I have put the following message up on the website today
from David...  Cheers, Simon.

---

The book is progressing slowly but to time at the moment, interest is
coming in from all over the world with particular attention from the US.
I would like to thank all the fans those have contacted me so far with
offers of photographs; I may use some of them offered, I will assess all
these at a later stage.

Well I have had an interesting couple of weeks with new information
coming in on some of the earlier bands before Yes became Yes, such as
the Warriors and Syn. I aim to briefly cover these pre - Yes bands, just
those involving Jon and Chris as they were the two founding members.

Exclusive interviews have also been carried out with Bill Bruford (Yes),
Dave Foster (Warriors / writing with Yes), Rob Hill (Warriors) and the
extremely elusive vanishing drummer with Mabel Greer's Toyshop, Bob!

Some rare photographs have also come my way, which should see there way
into the book to, If you have any PLEASE contact, me.

That's about it for now, keep Yessin.

David Watkinson

--
Fragile - The UK's Yes Tribute Band
http://homepages.which.net/~simon.arnold1/fragile.htm

I am awaiting the new book Perpetual Change.  Keep me informed of when
it is complete and where to purchase.  Maybe I can use it as a
reference in my next paper.

Peace and Light,

Key2ascension

Hi,

Perpetual change is the mailing list for the visual history book of the same
name being written by David Watkinson.  This list will keep you bang up to date
with news about the book as it moves towards publication.

Written by David Watkinson Perpetual Change will add to the genre of Yes books
by providing a visual history of the band with many photos and memorabilia that
have not been see by the public before.

Cheers,

Simon Arnold