Okay, so what I posted earlier apparently doesn't allow one to click on the
heading to access the story. If one goes to www.thenation.com they should not
have too much trouble finding it.

Ringing of Revolution,
-Don

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So love me, love me, love me...






>________________________________
>From: Donald Handy <dirhandy@...>
>To: phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:26 PM
>Subject: [phil-ochs] Re: Fw: Phil Ochs Live!
>
>If one goes to www.thenation.com...
>

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I'm sorry, but I'm done putting up with this guy's insults. It seems like all he
ever does is tear people down. Personally, I have better things to do than waste
my time on people such as this.

"Good luck to all of you,
Good luck to all of you."
      -Phil Ochs

--- In phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com, Luther Gaylord <luthergaylord@...> wrote:
>
> So love me, love me, love me...
>
>
>
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>
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> >________________________________
> >From: Donald Handy <dirhandy@...>
> >To: phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 2:26 PM
> >Subject: [phil-ochs] Re: Fw: Phil Ochs Live!
> >
> >If one goes to www.thenation.com...
> >
>
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/sep/05/joe-hill

Labor Day and the spirit of Joe Hill

Joe Hill, workers' martyr, was executed by firing squad nearly a century
ago, but his message lives on: 'Don't mourn – organise!'

Clancy Sigal
guardian.co.uk, Monday 5 September 2011 13.30 BST

l eat, bye and bye,
In that glorious land above the sky;
Work and pray, live on hay,
You'll get pie in the sky when you die

– "The Preacher and the Slave", a parody hymn written by rebel singer and
labour icon Joe Hill

Anyone who is a fan of Billy Bragg, as I am, or Bruce Springsteen, Bob
Dylan, Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie or the sixties protest singer Phil Ochs
knows that radical America's greatest songwriter-educator Joe Hill is still
alive in the young-in-heart on this besieged Labor Day.

Joe, a Swedish immigrant and wandering troubadour-troublemaker, was
a "Wobbly", an agitating member of the One Big Union, the red flag
International Workers of the World, a harum-scarum, mad-as-hell,
happy-in-fellowship bunch of hoboes and gypsy workingmen who scared the
pants off business leaders, pious church-goers, police chiefs, governors and
all right-thinking citizens in the early part of the last century.

As a just published, terrific biography of Hill, The Man Who Never Died, by
William Adler, makes clear yet again, Joe Hillström (né Joel Hägglund, his
birth name) was framed on a murder charge in Salt Lake City, Utah, strapped
into a chair and shot by a firing squad.

In my house, wherever we moved, my mother always put up two pictures, the
labour lawyer who once defended her, Clarence Darrow (after whom I'm named),
and the seditious martyr Joe Hill. As Joe may have shrewdly deduced on his
last day, when the guards came for him – and a possible reason why he
refused to testify for himself at his rigged trial – he may have been more
valuable to the movement as a bullet-punctured corpse than he would have
been alive: a reminder that the class struggle for which he was surrendering
his life was – and is – as undying as his legacy on this Labor Day, 2011.

My mother, a skilled craftswoman on a sweater-making machine, felt split
between her conservative union motto, "A fair day's wage for a fair day's
work" and the IWW's revolutionary preamble – "Abolition of the wage system
is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism." In
her lifetime – she witnessed the 1911 Triangle Fire annihilation of 146
immigrant young women – most of her co-workers took the "class war" as a
obvious fact of life; they held a consensus that, in the IWW's ringing
words, "the working class and the employing class have nothing in common."

In pre-first world war America, the employing class had no ethical problem
deploying federal and state troops to murder working people. The massacres
at Ludlow, Cripple Creek, Thibodaux, Coeur d'Alene, Pullman, Everett and so
many other bleeding grounds are burned into what's left of labour's
institutional memory. Or as a New York judge told striking female garment
workers, "You are on strike against God."

"The copper bosses killed you Joe
They shot you Joe, says I
Takes more than guns to kill a man
Says Joe I didn't die…

Joe Hill's IWW believed in head-on, confrontational direct action based on
what we now fashionably call participatory democracy or self-management.
Hence, you rolled into town in a box car and met spontaneously with other
bindlestiffs and bums like yourself, and did what had to be done on a voice
vote and no Roberts Rules of Order. You struck industrially, sabotaged when
appropriate, and constantly tested the limits of free speech laws. Arrested
en masse (and beaten, sometimes lynched), you whistled for your socialist,
anarchist, what-the-hell comrades who poured in from all corners of
the United States to fill the Podunk jails where you drove the sheriff and
his deputies nuts with your tactics. One of which was to jump up and down in
the jailhouse in unison until the flimsy wood structure broke apart around
you as in a Buster Keaton movie.

The IWW was unique in its timefor admitting African Americans, illegal
immigrants, Asians and women – an inclusiveness that was revolutionary in
its day. That's when labour really sang. Before Lieber and Stoller, before
Irving Berlin and Tin Pan Alley, there was Joe Hill, who would, when the
spirit moved him (usually in a bar or doss house), plunk-plunk a tune on his
guitar, often a witty takeoff on a religious hymn or a current popular
ditty. His verses, like "Rebel Girl", "There is Power in the Union" and
"Casey Jones: Union Scab", soon included in the IWW's bestselling
ten-cents-a-copy Little Red Songbook, became for workers – all over the
world – their version of platinum. Wherever "wheat bums" (migrant farm
workers), miners, railroad stiffs, dockers and sailors, the unemployed and
hungry gathered, they sang their hearts out from the Little Red Song Book.

To "be union" was to sing songs at the top of your voice; melody, Marxism
and militancy were braided into One Big Union.

Labour today doesn't have much to sing about. Organised labour – organised
into structured unions tied to collective bargaining contracts, that is – is
on the ropes. By all indices, Americans are working harder for less money –
that is, when they are working at all. Unemployment and under-employment
numbers at anywhere from 25 to 30 million, and the angry, unorganised
jobless have yet to fight back except for the self-destructive
manifestations of frustrated rage. Republicans in Congress hate the
unemployed. If they could, they'd get rid of unemployment insurance
altogether, whichGOP minority whip Jon Kyl sneers at as a "disincentive for
them to seek new work".

Kyl and his Republican and Blue Dog Democrat colleagues – direct descendants
of Gilded Age barons who ordered workers shot down – with an enabling
President Obama, who hasn't lifted a finger to help unions he once promised
to meet on the picket line, have united to declare old-fashioned class war
on working people. Joe Hill and his spirited IWW comrades like the "rebel
girl" Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, anarchist Emma Goldman, Big Bill Haywood and
Gene Debs would immediately get it. The same victims, same union-busting
tactics only now with $1000-per-hour billable lawyers: and the same enemy.

Except that Joe Hill didn't believe in victims, only fighters. The day
before his execution, he told friends:

"Tomorrow I expect to make a trip to the planet Mars and, if so, will
immediately commence to organise the Mars canal workers into the IWW, and we
will sing the good old songs so loud that the learned stargazers will once
and for all get positive proof that the planet Mars is really inhabited …
Don't mourn for me – Organise!"

At its peak, the IWW could count on half a million supporters in the US.
Today, albeit in the thousands, in the US, UK, Australia and Canada, they're
the fighting young, between ages 20 and 30, with websites and strong hearts.
And they're organising – New York immigrant food workers, panhandlers in
Vancouver, Chicago bike messengers, City of London cleaners – even at your
favourite Starbucks.

You can't kill the spirit of Joe Hill.


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I would not compare him to anyone, but, for modern, angsty songwriters, he is by
far the best!
 
Patrick "well over 50" Peters

However much I am at the mercy of the world I never let myself get lost by
brooding over its misery. I hold firmly to the thought that each one of us can
do a little to bring some portion of that misery to an end."
--Albert Schweitzer, French-German philosopher and physician


Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism.
- Hubert Humphrey

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This is "new" to me. Although it appears to have been on the web
since 2008, I didn't find this recording until today. It is a reasonable
quality audience recording - lo-fi but clear. 53 minutes.
Geoff
-------------------------------------------

http://vasthead.com/Radio/KPFT.html

"Added March 21, 2008
...There's no one more red, white and blue"

Phil Ochs at the Club of Our Own,
Houston, Texas, February, 1971

http://vasthead.com/RA/KPFT/Phil_Ochs_1971_80M.mp3

"Until recently, no one had ever heard this recording but me. I recorded
this in February, 1971, when Phil Ochs performed in Houston before a small
audience. The show benefited Space City News, then the local alternative
newspaper."
---------------------------------------------------------------

There is also a link on http://vasthead.com/Radio/KPFT.html
to the Studs Terkel interview with Ochs and Bob Gibson 1973

http://vasthead.com/RA/KPFT/KPFT_1971-05_terkel_ochs.mp3

Thanks Geoff.

Nejat

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Geoff <GMGough@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> This is "new" to me. Although it appears to have been on the web
> since 2008, I didn't find this recording until today. It is a reasonable
> quality audience recording - lo-fi but clear. 53 minutes.
> Geoff
> -------------------------------------------
>
> http://vasthead.com/Radio/KPFT.html
>
> "Added March 21, 2008
> ...There's no one more red, white and blue"
>
> Phil Ochs at the Club of Our Own,
> Houston, Texas, February, 1971
>
> http://vasthead.com/RA/KPFT/Phil_Ochs_1971_80M.mp3
>
> "Until recently, no one had ever heard this recording but me. I recorded
> this in February, 1971, when Phil Ochs performed in Houston before a small
> audience. The show benefited Space City News, then the local alternative
> newspaper."
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> There is also a link on http://vasthead.com/Radio/KPFT.html
> to the Studs Terkel interview with Ochs and Bob Gibson 1973
>
> http://vasthead.com/RA/KPFT/KPFT_1971-05_terkel_ochs.mp3
>
>
>




__________________________
Horas non numero nisi serenas


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Thanx, Geoff...It's always great to hear "new" Ochs...

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Geoff <GMGough@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> This is "new" to me. Although it appears to have been on the web
> since 2008, I didn't find this recording until today. It is a reasonable
> quality audience recording - lo-fi but clear. 53 minutes.
> Geoff
> -------------------------------------------
>
> http://vasthead.com/Radio/KPFT.html
>
> "Added March 21, 2008
> ...There's no one more red, white and blue"
>
> Phil Ochs at the Club of Our Own,
> Houston, Texas, February, 1971
>
> http://vasthead.com/RA/KPFT/Phil_Ochs_1971_80M.mp3
>
> "Until recently, no one had ever heard this recording but me. I recorded
> this in February, 1971, when Phil Ochs performed in Houston before a small
> audience. The show benefited Space City News, then the local alternative
> newspaper."
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> There is also a link on http://vasthead.com/Radio/KPFT.html
> to the Studs Terkel interview with Ochs and Bob Gibson 1973
>
> http://vasthead.com/RA/KPFT/KPFT_1971-05_terkel_ochs.mp3
>
>
>


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http://vasthead.com/RA/KPFT/Phil_Ochs_1971_80M.mp3

At the 31:20 mark:

Oh, the people who wear the hard hats
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
They must have believed John Wayne

(See, Pam?  What did I tell you?)


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Don't you mean, "How many times have I told you?" ;-)

Pam




>________________________________
>
>http://vasthead.com/RA/KPFT/Phil_Ochs_1971_80M.mp3
>
>At the 31:20 mark:
>
>Oh, the people who wear the hard hats
>Should all hang their heads in shame
>I can't understand how their minds work
>They must have believed John Wayne
>
>(See, Pam?  What did I tell you?)
>
>

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Hello everybody
 
I thought you may like to know that Bob Rafkin will be chatting about Phil Ochs
and playing a cover of one of his songs on the radio tomorrow. Bob played guitar
on the Phil Ochs albums "Rehearsals For Retirement" and "Greatest Hits", as well
as at the infamous "Gunfight At Carnegie Hall" concert.
 
The radio show is on at 12 noon British Summer Time this Saturday 17 September.
If you live in London, you should be able to pick it up on 104.4fm, otherwise
you can stream it at http://resonancefm.com/ Bob will be on at the beginning of
the show.
 
Bob is appearing in order to help promote the Phil Ochs tribute night taking
place at the 12 Bar Club on Wed 21 September. For more information about that,
see the links below:
 
http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=248640981834557
 
http://www.12barclub.com/gig_listings.html
 
Jack Hayter, who is one of the artists appearing at the tribute night, has
recorded two Phil Ochs covers which you can download for free:
 
http://soundcloud.com/jack-hayter/rehearsals-for-retirement-phil 
 
http://soundcloud.com/jack-hayter/ive-had-her-phil-ochs-cover
 
That's it!
 
Best wishes
 
Martin Dowsing

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> Bob Rafkin will be chatting about Phil Ochs and playing a cover of one of
> his songs on the radio tomorrow.

Martin,

Thanks for the link to Jack Hayter's covers. He performs them well. Perhaps
his slight adjustments to the lyrics of  "I've had her" somewhat change the
perspective of the song.

I missed the radio show. Will there be a podcast of the broadcast ?

Geoff
who is too damned old to stand up all night at the 12 Bar
and "walking the long miles home" (to quote RT) is no longer an option
but I hope you guys "break a leg at the show" - wish I could be there.

Hi Geoff
 
The show with Bob Rafkin should be archived online in around a week's time. I'll
forward the link on to the group when it's up.
 
If you got to the 12 Bar early you could probably get a seat in the balcony in
case that helps!
 
Thanks for your good wishes anyway.
 
All the best
 
Martin

From: Geoff <GMGough@...>
>To: phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011, 19:25
>Subject: Re: [phil-ochs] Phil Ochs covers
>
>
> 
>> Bob Rafkin will be chatting about Phil Ochs and playing a cover of one of
>> his songs on the radio tomorrow.
>
>Martin,
>
>Thanks for the link to Jack Hayter's covers. He performs them well. Perhaps
>his slight adjustments to the lyrics of "I've had her" somewhat change the
>perspective of the song.
>
>I missed the radio show. Will there be a podcast of the broadcast ?
>
>Geoff
>who is too damned old to stand up all night at the 12 Bar
>and "walking the long miles home" (to quote RT) is no longer an option
>but I hope you guys "break a leg at the show" - wish I could be there.
>
>
>
>
>

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> The show with Bob Rafkin should be archived online in around a week's
> time.
> I'll forward the link on to the group when it's up.

> If you got to the 12 Bar early you could probably get a seat in the
> balcony in case that helps!

ah yes indeed - we victor mildrews deserve a seat in the balcony !

thanks Martin

G.

I had to Google "Victor Mildrew" but as soon as his image popped up, this song
started playing in my head: http://youtu.be/cvbJtxcvGP0



>________________________________
>From: Geoff <GMGough@...>
>To: phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [phil-ochs] Phil Ochs covers
>
>ah yes indeed - we victor mildrews deserve a seat in the balcony !
>
>
>

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"Cause you can have all the riches of the golden kind
But without the riches of your peace of mind
He said you won't make old bones
You won't make old bones"

well I have peace of (personal ) mind
and I'll still fight against the injustices
in the same way as I have always done,

but if the old bones are just a little physically weak,
the mind still believes in the old values learned.

"So you people in power and position, I tell you beware, I tell you beware
Of your facts and your figures to tell you what when and where,
'Cause your facts and your figures are the likes of me,
And don't try and tell me how my life should be"

but when the time comes, "when I'm gone" would be far too generous

I was too young to be in Spain for the conflict, but I can relate to aspects
of utah phillips's "eddie's song" (not so much the first verse). I heard the
song as part of an episode of "Loafer's Glory" I was listening to earlier
this week. I love that song. - Luther you sent it to me a few years ago.

Geoff
"one hand on tomorrow reaching for the sun"

At 03:17 PM 9/18/2011, Geoff wrote:
>
>
> > The show with Bob Rafkin should be archived online in around a week's
> > time.
> > I'll forward the link on to the group when it's up.
>
> > If you got to the 12 Bar early you could probably get a seat in the
> > balcony in case that helps!
>
>ah yes indeed - we victor mildrews deserve a seat in the balcony !
>
>thanks Martin

But Geoff, I thought the Victors got the hang ups.

-Howie
piano, what piano?

OK, I know I am the absolute last person here to see the documentary but I
finally broke down and bought the film from ITunes.


Two questions unanswered by the film: What was his relationship with John and
Yoko? Was there any connection to Phil with the lyric "War is over if you want
it..." and Yoko´s annual "War is Over" poster, e.g.?


How did Ramsey Clark come to be his attorney?

Is there anyone else on this forum who lives in Argentina?

Thanks, Alan







________________________________
From: Luther Gaylord <luthergaylord@...>
To: "phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com" <phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [phil-ochs] Phil Ochs covers


 
I had to Google "Victor Mildrew" but as soon as his image popped up, this song
started playing in my head: http://youtu.be/cvbJtxcvGP0

>________________________________
>From: Geoff <GMGough@...>
>To: phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [phil-ochs] Phil Ochs covers
>
>ah yes indeed - we victor mildrews deserve a seat in the balcony !
>
>
>

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Hi All,

Alan Hirsch shared this URL with me and I thought I'd share it with you. It's a
link to a repost of the original article Phil wrote for the Voice in which he
urges everyone to declare that the Viet Nam war is over.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2010/03/phil_ochs_decla.php
Pam


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A topical song in the tradition of Phil Ochs.

http://youtu.be/CLjsU8zp644

http://youtu.be/a_jpVBMqOM8

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Hi all,

This Sunday is the presidential election in Argentina. The country is now nearly
30 years removed from its last dictatorship. If you read "There But for Fortune"
or "Death of a Rebel," you know that Phil was nearly permanently detained by the
Condor dictatorships in Argentina, Chile and Bolivia.

I want to summarize some of Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner's accomplishments
over the last four years:


  In the long and sometimes inglorious history of Latin America, she is
responsible for the only successful
prosecutions of military generals from a dictatorship (1976-1983 Bussi and
Menendez--2008 and 2009).

Argentina is now the only country in the Americas (along with Canada) where
same-sex marriage, gay adoptions and gay military service are legal (2010).

She has supported the grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo even when it was
discovered they were not squeaky clean.

She has supported indigenous causes and other marginalized groups.

She increased pensions for retired people (18% June 2011).

The poverty rate has dropped from 40% to 21% since 2007 where Argentina is now
tied with Uruguay for the lowest poverty rate in South America. There have also
been similar reductions
in infant mortality and crime rates.

In short, she has done a great deal to be a voice to those who previously did
not have a voice. She has raised the standard of living while simultaneously
growing the economy at a staggering 8% per year.

Unemployment in Argentina is 7.2% while in the USA it is festering at 9.2%.

Certainly there will be some who criticize her "left-leaning" policies but facts
are facts. Argentina is not perfect. Inflation is rampant but let's hope she
receives another four years on Sunday. A strong South America is good for
everyone.

Alan

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"Fuck you, proles!"


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/census-shows-1-2-people-103940568.html


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It's about time! We are finally on the path to get rid of this damned
greedy"middle class" and allow the government to more effectively take care
off us. Fewer smartphones and more nutritious meals for our kids.




On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Luther Gaylord <luthergaylord@...>wrote:

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> "Fuck you, proles!"
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/census-shows-1-2-people-103940568.html
>
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http://www.examiner.com/tv-in-new-york/wnet-american-masters-to-present-phil-och\
s-there-but-for-fortune

Geoff

I will be celebrating Phil's birthday this month by playing lots of his music on
my show Monday, 12-4 PM CST at http://uicradio.org/ .  You can request your
favorite songs by emailing me at rose60612@... .  I hope you can join me! 
John Rose

In case anybody missed it, Hitchens has died, aged 62

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16212418

Thought I'd give myself a birthday card from Phil,  as turnabout being fair
play.
(Another) great song more relevant even than when he wrote it.

Thanks, Phil.
You're with me every day.

Carl

Thought you may like to know that highlights of the Phil Ochs tribute concert
which took place at the 12 Bar Club in September will be broadcast at
www.resonancefm.com on Fri 30 Dec from 10pm - midnight (UK time).
 
These recordings are by Ed Baxter from Resonance who has also put the radio
programme together. (I also have my own seperate recordings).
 
Sorry for the short notice - Ed's only just emailed me today about this!
 
Best wishes
 
Martin Dowsing

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> www.resonancefm.com on Fri 30 Dec from 10pm - midnight

I joined late

23.20 UK time Friday
wonderful version of Bwatue performed

hope there will be a podcast
Martin ?

as I listen -
next up is Flower Lady and Tape from Ca

Geoff

Thanks, Martin.  I just finished listening.

So who was the bloke at the end who performed "Pleasures of the Harbor"?  And
where is he from?  He sounded Scandinavian.





>________________________________
> From: Martin Dowsing <hungrydogbrand@...>
>To: phil-ochs@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:41 PM
>Subject: [phil-ochs] Phil Ochs tribute radio broadcast
>
>Thought you may like to know that highlights of the Phil Ochs tribute concert
which took place at the 12 Bar Club in September will be broadcast at
www.resonancefm.com on Fri 30 Dec from 10pm - midnight (UK time).
> 
>These recordings are by Ed Baxter from Resonance who has also put the radio
programme together. (I also have my own seperate recordings).
> 
>Sorry for the short notice - Ed's only just emailed me today about this!
> 
>Best wishes
> 
>Martin Dowsing
>
>
>

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