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Re: [pipertalk] Been Quiet Lately

Who is this "one person" that you speak of?

Would you consider Islam to be one of the "owtward forms" of the "church?"

If so, why? If not, why not?

Stephen
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On 8/23/07, Jonathan E. Brickman <jeb@...> wrote:
>
> > Hey fellow soldiers! Did this group fall asleep or is everyone working
> on
> > different projects? Just dropping in to say HI. Any good resources on
> the
> > Emerging Movement? A friend of mine has begun promoting the term "the
> > Diverging church". What dost thou thinkest? [KJV] - So, what do you
> think?
> > [ESV] - How do you feel about it? [TNIV] :)
> Quite frankly, I am somewhat sick and tired of pointed applied
> adjectives to the word "church". I think that a generation or three
> previously, the longstanding fad was being persnickety about "baptist"
> and "methodist" and "Roman" and "church of Christ" et cetera; and today,
> the fad is to care more about "emerging" and "mainline" and "orthodox"
> and "evangelical".
>
> There is only one church. It has many outward forms. I think only one
> person loves all of them. But that one person is the only one whose
> opinion really counts. I find, that this one person whose opinion
> really counts, encourages all to use any and all of the holy forms, if
> to His glory.
>
> J.E.B.
>
>
>



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Soli Deo Gloria,

Stephen Macasil

I am a contributing author for http://www.BiblicalThought.com

"Resolved, never to give over, nor in the least to slacken, my fight with my
corruptions, however unsuccessful I may be"

--Jonathan Edwards
Resolutions, 56
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"A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw that
God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent."

--John Calvin
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"Sanctify them in the truth, your word is truth".

--John 17:17 [NASB]


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... Quite frankly, I am somewhat sick and tired of pointed applied adjectives to the word "church". I think that a generation or three previously, the...
Jonathan E. Brickman
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Who is this "one person" that you speak of? Would you consider Islam to be one of the "owtward forms" of the "church?" If so, why? If not, why not? Stephen ...
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... Are you seriously asking the question, or are you trying to make a point? ... No. ... All Islamic teaching dictates contradiction of many of the...
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Aug 24, 2007
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... Are you seriously asking the question, or are you trying to make a point? I'm seriously asking the question. Who is the "one person"? I don't want to...
Stephen Macasil
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Aug 24, 2007
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... I would like to suggest that God is one person, who is comprised of many. It is also God to whom I have referred. ... I do not think Scripture has...
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J.E.B., You wrote: "I would like to suggest that God is one person, who is comprised of many. It is also God to whom I have referred." I responded: Wow, that's...
Stephen Macasil
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Aug 24, 2007
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Well, now this was an interesting conversation. At least we seem to agree on Sola Scriptura. Now let's get to Sola Fide. Sola Deo Gloria, Chris ... [Non-text...
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Stephen, given your self-description, I am absolutely certain that you have Scripture for all of your questions concerning who God is. I am also certain you...
Jonathan E. Brickman
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Who are you people and what rock did you crawl out from under? By His Grace and For His Glory, Pastor Douglas Mixer Grace Baptist Church _____ From:...
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Excuse me? Some of us don't take things for granted-and there is a big difference between recognizing the authority of scripture and worshipping God the...
Moore, William
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The reason for my question was that we have had virtually no discussions for months and then with one short question we get accusations being thrown at other...
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Pastor Doug, That's my fault, and I apologize. My intentions were to ask our group, which yes, has been silent for a few months, about the Emerging Movement...
Stephen Macasil
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... I am certain that I have not spoken with the holiness of God. I am in fact enjoying our discussion, Stephen, although I must apologize for ...
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J.E.B., I am interested in participating in the discussion, however, it seems a somewhat "closed-end" dialogue. I would like to participate more, but EM folks...
Stephen Macasil
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... I don't think I subscribe to postmodernism at all :-) "Postmodernism" is the ethic which says that there is no interpersonal truth, yes? So far as I can...
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[Joe M] I probably over-reacted to pastor Doug's response as well. I think we all did. I apologize for my part. I agree completely that anyone who claims to...
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Joe M, Your statement "*That's* the modernism that I want to be 'post' to." is exactly where I fall in. Well spoken! To follow up on your understanding of...
Stephen Macasil
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... Yep. Me too. But when I study so-called "modernism" of the mid- and late-twentieth centuries, and compare it with 'postmodernism', I really don't see a ...
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Good day gentlemen; I must admit that I have not read your full conversation; due to my own physical limitations. HoweverI have seen enough to imply that our...
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This has become a fairly interesting conversation! I do want to ask a question based on something you said, though. “Scripture gives us a (perfect in the...
Douglas Mixer
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... I would like to suggest that the church as a whole has said very little with consistency which is of God, throughout the vast majority of its history. For...
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I would say that your example fails the test. It is beyond doubt that during the history of the church, there have been times when some leaders have taught...
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I think one 'problem' in this discussion is that you might be talking about two different churches. When pastor Doug uses the term church, it seems he (I...
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... Actually, no. When I refer to the church, I refer to it in the same vein as the first three chapters of the book of Revelation refers to the 'churches'. ...
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[Joe] "Scripture gives us a (perfect in the sense that God has chosen to keep it perfect) lens through which to view the story behind the story, but each of us...
Moore, William
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“It's interesting (don't take this negatively) that someone who holds the reformation in such high esteem might fear, a priori, a major change in direction...
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Pastor Doug, "This is the problem with postmodernism. Postmodernism says there are no absolutes. But that very statement is an absolute. So, postmodernism...
Stephen Macasil
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“As for the Crusades, Inquisition, etc. Notice that NEVER were they EVER---biblically justified.” Definitely agreed. And that is a proposition! By His...
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... Well, Stephen, having read a number of translations of writings from those periods, I would suggest that their practitioners did indeed cite much Scripture...
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J.E.B., "Well, Stephen, having read a number of translations of writings from those periods, I would suggest that their practitioners did indeed cite much...
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