... Hi Cindy (I'm sure you've been waiting for my response!), You really need to distinguish between Evangelical Quakers and non- evangelical; there is is a...
... Cindy, I think you have a point. But may I say, that I like a lot of what Piper says and does, and I feel that criticisms of him are often based on ...
David, Thanks. You are one of the most reasonable and thinking people I've seen on the list. Of course, on a Piperlist I would expect to find people who like...
Hi Graham, Of course I was waiting for your response. Frank should be right behind you. Anyhow,I'm not sure how you distinquish between evangelical and other...
Cindy said: Augustine is the one who introduced the Hellinistic thoughts of Aristotle and the idea of allegory as the Greeks used it into Christian thought....
... Well, if ur not aware of this distinction, Cindy, maybe you need to be a little more reticent in ur claims. ... For evangelical Quakers, the inner light is...
Some thoughts over what I have been reading here in the past few days. I hesitate to write this for I do not want anyone to think I am being unkind or even...
["All truth is God's truth." Is this a biblical statement?] Interesting thought....is all truth God's truth? Maybe this has already been asked. Can the...
... quoting ... In answer to ur first question, I am not aware of it being a biblical statement. In answer to ur last, it depends what u mean by 'doctrine.' It...
All, First a disclaimer... I dislike the way I've seen this phrase used in the past, so I suppose I have a bias. Graham, the problem with a phrase like "all...
Hi Bernie, Good to hear from you again. It's been a while. ... is ... I agree. You are certainly right in that the phrase is a little tautologous (sp?). ... I...
Hi all, My question is one that has rumbled around in my mind, and which we touched on briefly in the past year, since Sept. 11 2001. Someone once said to get ...
Hi Cindy, ... advice not to read certain people. I have cautioned people from reading certain individuals who write critiques of Piper. The reason I have...
Hi David, ... As somebody who has attended Bethlehem for the past 3 years, I don't have a problem with what they are doing. Piper has been gifted with the...
Rosa, I believe that God still judges and thus acts against nations; history provides the answer. Consider Germany for one recent example; utterly destroyed by...
I like the subject but I want to go a little deeper, in asking will God judge our nation "for be in an unnecessary war"? (in my view) we as Christians are we...
Rosa, I guess it all your answer will depend on if you are a dispensationalist or not. If you truly belive we are under the age of grace, then God will not...
Fraser, Juan, and Jess, Thank you for your responses. There is so much to work through. Fraser's perspective makes a lot of sense and I do see that biblically...
Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, An interesting question has been permeating what seems to be every direction that I have looked lately. I have stumbled...
Paul, I think you already have your answers before you. Horton seems to be a good resource. Many times people are not looking for us to be "the answer man,"...
... found life in one instant to be more than they can handle? Christians who commit suicide? Is there such a thing? Why do some people say that suicide is one...
In the terrific book, The Hammer of God [a collection of 3 stories by a Bo Gietz, a Lutheran bishop ...never did get my copy back!] an old saint is dying, and...
Paul, My prayers will be with you and your coworkers in this sad, confusing time. I just read Exodus 4 today. It was clearly meant as a word for you. Ex...
I do not think suicide is more damnable than murder and murderers have been saved, not the least of which is the Apostle Paul. But Paul Miller's situation and...
If I may venture my unscholarly thoughts ... You are right, God doesn't need assurance of our salvation, but we do. IMHO "perseverance of the saints" is both...
Thanks Rosa. I think you are right on with all your points. But I think I didn't pose my question very clearly. What I am getting at it is, if I say this...
Jamin, Welcome to one of the hardest questions in Christianity. I don't know and I anticipate the thoughts of others here. I do find it hard to be certain of...
We can take a clue as to what perseverance means from Job. His faith persevered even though he accused God of unrighteous judgement and even though he became...
Jeremy, Your comments regarding perseverance are well said, and I say a hearty Amen! Vernon ... From: <nwshnd1@...> To: <pipertalk@yahoogroups.com> ...
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Jeremy, Thanks. Your comments are well spoken. Does anyone out there agree with this statement, "ultimate perseverance is not the way we earn participation in...